It sounds like diet VR without the clunky headset. Which is super cool. I feel like this is a cool "proof of concept but not worthwhile purchase in this form" type of thing. Maybe in five or ten years, the technology this is built on will improve to give a better value proposition.
@Moonlessky I imagine that's among their lowest priorities since it's such an insignificant issue especially compared to the bugs that actually affect gameplay
I'm not sure I'd want it ported to Switch or Switch 2 simply because I'd rather those resources go to giving us a new game, but I liked it. It's by no means a great game, but it's fun. Solid 7/10 experience for me.
I would normally go for PS5 on a game like this simply for a higher frame rate, but the amiibo put me in firmly in the Switch 2 boat for this multiplat.
Dude is spot on. I've always said gaming should be dictated by the rule of cool. That's why I like the Dreamcast more than the PS2, the Wii more than the 360, and the Wii U more than the PS4 despite the massive number of major games that skipped those consoles. I don't limit myself to those consoles, but if I have a choice of platform for a game, those are the platforms I'm going with. Miss me with Darksiders II on Playstation or Xbox; I'm playing that on Wii U, baby.
@DennisReynolds This. The monetization is a non-issue unless you're the type of dig your heels in on principle. I bought the premium battle pass and one moth of membership to try it out and see if I think it's worth it, but I probably won't be buying them in the future because they're just not necessary. Most cometic stuff can be bought with in-game currency anyway.
It's good (7) imo in that the battles look good and, for the most part, work like they should, and that plus training and recruitment - both of which work wonderfully - are the most important parts. Definitely a lot of bugs, but they're already starting to fix those. It definitely needs a lot of work and shouldn't have launched in the state it's in, but I think the most important parts are pretty solid, or at the very least a solid foundation upon which to build.
@Itsashame The argument that it's overpriced on Switch 2 specifically doesn't make sense, but I think charging $80 for a four year old game, even if it does include DLC, is a bit overpriced regardless of platform.
I'm pretty disappointed with the state it released in, but I'm encouraged to hear that they're already acknowledging and addressing bugs immediately. We also have to remember that, while this is by no means a defense of Champions's inadequate release state, almost all live service games launch pretty bare bones and get updated and improved steadily to come eventually to a point where it's awesome. Battlefield 2042 was kinda trash when it launched, but by the time Battlefield 6 came out, 2042 had become my favorite FPS to play online.
I haven't put enough time into it yet to form an opinion, but it's depressing but not surprising to read that it's got so many problems. This is the same company that gave us Scarlet and Violet and looked us dead in the eyes and said "This is perfectly acceptable performance."
I think it's important to remember that Switch 2 isn't even a year old yet, and as a Pokemon game, Pokopia isn't a game that people will stop caring about once its limelight is over. You'll have people in the coming years buy a copy when they get a Switch 2 as more people pick up the new console.
@Sylamp Ahh I gotcha. I never played it on Switch, so I assumed there was content parity and that backwards compatible play fixed most performance issues. Sounds like the upgrade is worth the money, then. Thanks for setting me straight!
Is it a big enough upgrade to justify $9 rather than playing the Switch version via backwards compatibility? I don't think I read there being any Switch 2 exclusive content like with Nintendo's (still overpriced imo) "Switch 2 Edition" upgrades.
@danzoEX No, but those were also RPGs where the goal was to catch Pokemon; the only Pokemon you'll have in Champions are the ones you use competitively and for most people, that's ten to fifteen. Unless you do a lot of competitive with theme teams, you don't need more than 30 spaces.
@BLK_4EVER Read the community rules, dude; off topic comments aren't allowed, and my profile picture has nothing to do with Pokemon Champions's pricing. If you'd like to explain why you think it's unreasonable to charge money for optional cosmetics and bonus content in a game that's free to download and play, however, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts.
@Metazoxan They have made explicitly clear that you don't need to buy anything to play competitive. The paid stuff is just cosmetics, extra missions, and more storage for convenience.
@FortniteCity and then the very next two sentences which make up 67% of the post. Why would you ignore the majority of the post when I so clearly said more about NES Zelda than I did OoT? Very strange, very peculiar
I'd also love to see the original Legend of Zelda remade in the same style as the Link's Awakening remake. I also think a full reimagining of Zelda II: Adventure of Link would be a good mood since few these days have played it and fewer still like it.
In general, I'm sick of remakes and remasters. Ocarina of time, however, would definitely be an exception. I'd also love to see the original Legend of Zelda remade in the same style as the Link's Awakening remake. I also think a full reimagining of Zelda II: Adventure of Link would be a good mood since few these days have played it and fewer still like it.
@CupidStunt You don't have to pay microtransactions. The game is completely playable without paying anything. The paid stuff is only if you want to get really serious about and keep more Pokemon in Champions at one time and obtain held items at a faster rate. It's like TCG Pocket; the subscription opens up a lot of cool perks, but it's 100% enjoyable without paying.
I am almost exclusively physical when it comes to game buying, but this is the right move. It should have always been like this; digital doesn't require the manufacture of cartridges, so it should be a little cheaper.
@Switching This is the kind of irrational brand-loyalty shilling I'm here for. And I'm not knocking you; I unironically feel the same way. I am Nintendo's battered spouse with Stockholm syndrome; I'll find a way to rationalize any anti-consumer practice they concoct. They monetize it left, right, and center because they love me.
@spiderman0616 No games lock me out due to price. I'm an adult. If I want to play a game, I buy the game; if I have to shift some stuff around in my budget that month to accommodate an extra $10, then I do it. I have yet to see a Nintendo game command $80 that wasn't high quality enough to justify it. Sure, Tears of the Kingdom on Switch 2 might not be if you played it on Switch, but if you never picked it up and want the full Switch 2 experience on-cart, then it's not unjustified. The market will bear what the consumer will pay; if the consumers weren't willing to pay $80 for these specific games, they wouldn't sell, and Nintendo would be forced to lower the price. We don't have to like it, but the workings of market economics are clear.
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Re: Hands On: Viture Beast XR Glasses - A 174-Inch TV On Your Face That Works Brilliantly With Switch 2, But At A Cost
It sounds like diet VR without the clunky headset. Which is super cool. I feel like this is a cool "proof of concept but not worthwhile purchase in this form" type of thing. Maybe in five or ten years, the technology this is built on will improve to give a better value proposition.
Re: Completed Legends: Z-A's Pokédexes? There's A Shiny Prize Waiting For You In Pokémon HOME
@TKundNobody It only takes like three minutes to transfer everything if you've kept them organized in your boxes while you play through the game.
Re: Poll: So, Will You Be Playing Final Fantasy XIV Online On Switch 2?
MMOs aren't my jam, but I'm psyched for those who are excited.
Re: Pokémon Champions Ver. 1.0.3 Update Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@Hinade Same. I'm having an absolute blast.
Re: Pokémon Champions Ver. 1.0.3 Update Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@Moonlessky I imagine that's among their lowest priorities since it's such an insignificant issue especially compared to the bugs that actually affect gameplay
Re: Talking Point: Star Fox Zero Is 10 Years Old - Have You Actually Played It?
I'm not sure I'd want it ported to Switch or Switch 2 simply because I'd rather those resources go to giving us a new game, but I liked it. It's by no means a great game, but it's fun. Solid 7/10 experience for me.
Re: Argonaut Games Appears To Bee Reviving A Forgotten N64 Title
YES THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE CHILDHOOD GAMES I'M SO HYPED
Re: "A New Mission Awaits" - SNK Celebrates 30 Years Of Metal Slug, Teases Exciting Future
@Incognegro It wasn't horrible, but it wasn't great.
Re: "A New Mission Awaits" - SNK Celebrates 30 Years Of Metal Slug, Teases Exciting Future
@MirrorFate2 Seriously. This is what I want more than anything. Even the two NGPC games have modern ports.
Re: Pokémon & Zelda Rip-Off 'Pickmos' Removed From Steam As Publisher Intervenes
That picture is literally Link with an assault rifle on a Charizard from Temu.
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers Its Tech Review Of Pragmata On Switch 2
I would normally go for PS5 on a game like this simply for a higher frame rate, but the amiibo put me in firmly in the Switch 2 boat for this multiplat.
Re: Star Trek: Resurgence Will Likely Be Delisted Very Soon
Absolutely worth downloading while you can. Fantastic Trek adventure.
Re: "Are You High?" – Xbox Co-Creator Believes Whatever Nintendo Makes Next Is Far More Interesting Than Project Helix
@UpsideDownRowlet Why not? Nintendo is. They start working on designs and plans for a new console as soon as the previous console launches.
Re: "Are You High?" – Xbox Co-Creator Believes Whatever Nintendo Makes Next Is Far More Interesting Than Project Helix
Dude is spot on. I've always said gaming should be dictated by the rule of cool. That's why I like the Dreamcast more than the PS2, the Wii more than the 360, and the Wii U more than the PS4 despite the massive number of major games that skipped those consoles. I don't limit myself to those consoles, but if I have a choice of platform for a game, those are the platforms I'm going with. Miss me with Darksiders II on Playstation or Xbox; I'm playing that on Wii U, baby.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Duel - Mendel Palace
They both really suck, but the North American art is more memorable imo.
Re: Review: Pokémon Champions (Switch) – The Most Accessible & Flawed Competitive Pokémon Has Ever Been
@DennisReynolds This. The monetization is a non-issue unless you're the type of dig your heels in on principle. I bought the premium battle pass and one moth of membership to try it out and see if I think it's worth it, but I probably won't be buying them in the future because they're just not necessary. Most cometic stuff can be bought with in-game currency anyway.
Re: Review: Pokémon Champions (Switch) – The Most Accessible & Flawed Competitive Pokémon Has Ever Been
It's good (7) imo in that the battles look good and, for the most part, work like they should, and that plus training and recruitment - both of which work wonderfully - are the most important parts. Definitely a lot of bugs, but they're already starting to fix those. It definitely needs a lot of work and shouldn't have launched in the state it's in, but I think the most important parts are pretty solid, or at the very least a solid foundation upon which to build.
Re: My Nintendo Store Restocks Super Mario 40th Anniversary Reward (North America)
I wish they'd restock the Super Mario Bros 3 metal display plate. That's the only one I don't have =(
Re: Looks Like 'Elden Ring' Will Be A Pricey Game-Key Card Release On Switch 2
@Itsashame The argument that it's overpriced on Switch 2 specifically doesn't make sense, but I think charging $80 for a four year old game, even if it does include DLC, is a bit overpriced regardless of platform.
Re: Looks Like 'Elden Ring' Will Be A Pricey Game-Key Card Release On Switch 2
I don't care how improved it is or how much DLC is included, charging more for a game than what it cost at launch nearly half a decade ago is absurd.
Re: Pokémon Champions Bug-Squashing Update Is In The Works, Here's What's Being Targeted
I'm pretty disappointed with the state it released in, but I'm encouraged to hear that they're already acknowledging and addressing bugs immediately. We also have to remember that, while this is by no means a defense of Champions's inadequate release state, almost all live service games launch pretty bare bones and get updated and improved steadily to come eventually to a point where it's awesome. Battlefield 2042 was kinda trash when it launched, but by the time Battlefield 6 came out, 2042 had become my favorite FPS to play online.
Re: "Feels Like A Fleshed Out Beta" - Fans Are Unhappy With Pokémon Champions At Launch
I haven't put enough time into it yet to form an opinion, but it's depressing but not surprising to read that it's got so many problems. This is the same company that gave us Scarlet and Violet and looked us dead in the eyes and said "This is perfectly acceptable performance."
Re: 007 First Light Shaken By Delay On Switch 2, Now Releasing After Other Consoles
If it still runs like trash after a delay, I'll be thoroughly miffed.
Re: Japanese Charts: Pokémon Pokopia Sales Slow, But It's Still On Top
I think it's important to remember that Switch 2 isn't even a year old yet, and as a Pokemon game, Pokopia isn't a game that people will stop caring about once its limelight is over. You'll have people in the coming years buy a copy when they get a Switch 2 as more people pick up the new console.
Re: Pokémon Home Gets An Alpha-Sized Distribution To Celebrate Legends Z-A Compatibility
I'm stoked about this. Any Mystery Gift is cool in my book. I want a date for FireRed and LeafGreen Home compatibility, though.
Re: PSA: If You Own Goat Simulator 3 On Switch 1, You Get A 70% Discount On Switch 2
@Sylamp Ahh I gotcha. I never played it on Switch, so I assumed there was content parity and that backwards compatible play fixed most performance issues. Sounds like the upgrade is worth the money, then. Thanks for setting me straight!
Re: PSA: If You Own Goat Simulator 3 On Switch 1, You Get A 70% Discount On Switch 2
Is it a big enough upgrade to justify $9 rather than playing the Switch version via backwards compatibility? I don't think I read there being any Switch 2 exclusive content like with Nintendo's (still overpriced imo) "Switch 2 Edition" upgrades.
Re: Pokémon Legends: Z-A Is Getting Pokémon HOME Connectivity This Week
Crossing my fingers for FireRed and LeafGreen compatibility soon
Re: Pokémon Champions First Details About Price Reportedly Surface
@danzoEX No, but those were also RPGs where the goal was to catch Pokemon; the only Pokemon you'll have in Champions are the ones you use competitively and for most people, that's ten to fifteen. Unless you do a lot of competitive with theme teams, you don't need more than 30 spaces.
Re: Pokémon Champions First Details About Price Reportedly Surface
@BLK_4EVER Read the community rules, dude; off topic comments aren't allowed, and my profile picture has nothing to do with Pokemon Champions's pricing. If you'd like to explain why you think it's unreasonable to charge money for optional cosmetics and bonus content in a game that's free to download and play, however, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo's 2026 Plans Include New Star Fox & Zelda Remake, No 3D Mario
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Re: Pokémon Champions First Details About Price Reportedly Surface
@Friendly Literally nothing in this article even remotely suggests that you have to pay for the subscription to compete.
Re: Pokémon Champions First Details About Price Reportedly Surface
@Metazoxan They have made explicitly clear that you don't need to buy anything to play competitive. The paid stuff is just cosmetics, extra missions, and more storage for convenience.
Re: Pokémon Champions First Details About Price Reportedly Surface
@solarwolf07 The battle pass is free, dude
Re: Pokémon Champions First Details About Price Reportedly Surface
@danzoEX What are you talking about? Literally every Pokemon game has had a storage limit. Even Home has a storage limit.
Re: Pokémon Champions First Details About Price Reportedly Surface
@BLK_4EVER Yes, how dare they charge money for optional things in a free game >_>
Re: Rumour: Nintendo's 2026 Plans Include New Star Fox & Zelda Remake, No 3D Mario
@FortniteCity and then the very next two sentences which make up 67% of the post. Why would you ignore the majority of the post when I so clearly said more about NES Zelda than I did OoT? Very strange, very peculiar
I'd also love to see the original Legend of Zelda remade in the same style as the Link's Awakening remake. I also think a full reimagining of Zelda II: Adventure of Link would be a good mood since few these days have played it and fewer still like it.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo's 2026 Plans Include New Star Fox & Zelda Remake, No 3D Mario
@FortniteCity what are you talking about? Legend of Zelda is 40 years old. I'm not talking about Ocarina of Time
Re: Rumour: Nintendo's 2026 Plans Include New Star Fox & Zelda Remake, No 3D Mario
@BriskSunrise No, I'm sick of remakes except for games that are old enough to be grandparents.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo's 2026 Plans Include New Star Fox & Zelda Remake, No 3D Mario
In general, I'm sick of remakes and remasters. Ocarina of time, however, would definitely be an exception. I'd also love to see the original Legend of Zelda remade in the same style as the Link's Awakening remake. I also think a full reimagining of Zelda II: Adventure of Link would be a good mood since few these days have played it and fewer still like it.
Re: Horror FPS Amnesia: Rebirth Spooks Up A Storm On Switch 2 Next Month
@Gavintendo They've been giving regular updates at least. It's more than most Kickstarter projects do.
Re: Horror FPS Amnesia: Rebirth Spooks Up A Storm On Switch 2 Next Month
This is the best of the Amnesia series imo
Re: Pokémon Champions Plans To Keep The Stadium Lights On For A Very Long Time
@CupidStunt You don't have to pay microtransactions. The game is completely playable without paying anything. The paid stuff is only if you want to get really serious about and keep more Pokemon in Champions at one time and obtain held items at a faster rate. It's like TCG Pocket; the subscription opens up a lot of cool perks, but it's 100% enjoyable without paying.
Re: Anime-Inspired FPS 'Mullet Madjack' Hits Switch In April, And It Looks Like A Lot
They had me up until "rougelite." I detest roguelites. Great news for those who like them, though, because this game looks rad.
Re: Nintendo To Change Pricing For Digital & Physical Switch 2 Exclusives, Starting With Yoshi
I am almost exclusively physical when it comes to game buying, but this is the right move. It should have always been like this; digital doesn't require the manufacture of cartridges, so it should be a little cheaper.
Re: Hands On: Pokémon Champions Promises Top-Tier Battling, But At What Cost?
@Switching This is the kind of irrational brand-loyalty shilling I'm here for. And I'm not knocking you; I unironically feel the same way. I am Nintendo's battered spouse with Stockholm syndrome; I'll find a way to rationalize any anti-consumer practice they concoct. They monetize it left, right, and center because they love me.
Re: Review: Super Mario Bros. Wonder - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition + Meetup In Bellabel Park - Inessential Bells & Whistles
I'll be holding off for a while.
Re: Nintendo's Apparently Cutting US Switch 2 Output After Lower Than Expected Holiday Sales
@jsty3105 Kirby and the Forgotten Land + Star-Crossed World, Mario Party Jamboree + Jamboree TV, and Tears of the Kingdom Switch 2 Edition
Re: Nintendo's Apparently Cutting US Switch 2 Output After Lower Than Expected Holiday Sales
@spiderman0616 No games lock me out due to price. I'm an adult. If I want to play a game, I buy the game; if I have to shift some stuff around in my budget that month to accommodate an extra $10, then I do it. I have yet to see a Nintendo game command $80 that wasn't high quality enough to justify it. Sure, Tears of the Kingdom on Switch 2 might not be if you played it on Switch, but if you never picked it up and want the full Switch 2 experience on-cart, then it's not unjustified. The market will bear what the consumer will pay; if the consumers weren't willing to pay $80 for these specific games, they wouldn't sell, and Nintendo would be forced to lower the price. We don't have to like it, but the workings of market economics are clear.
Re: Nintendo's Apparently Cutting US Switch 2 Output After Lower Than Expected Holiday Sales
@aughra Nintendo only charges me $80 for a game because it loves me.
I'm basically Nintendo's Stockholm-syndrome-afflicted battered spouse.