Clammy

Forget M rated games. I want R rated Mario… Super princess peach xxx.

I’m kinda surprised enough people bought the base game to warrant this.

@SalvorHardin Amy.

Or Mario… but definitely Amy

Amy.. mark my words.

@RudyC3 "Yep, another franchise ruined by Limited Run Games..."

I dont know who they are, why do they ruin franchises?

@bobby_steurer : B&W is problematic, as it was published by EA, but Microsoft now own Lionhead - so would need them both EA & Microsoft working together for it to happen, and neither seem that bothered.

I thought it looked great. I see fps games on ps5 and Xbox, and they all look samey and boring to me.

I guess there’s a YouTuber out there telling people the textures look bad, and that’s why people are all regurgitating that … people can’t think for themselves nowadays it seems

Im not sold on the new mechanic.. Looks like it's zelda dummered down ... Like Zelda for girls or something

Sarcastic Clam says:

"I cant WAIT to see the next Mario Party, Mario sports title, and ports of old games."

Ooh! Click bait article! Grr!

Anyhow, I fully expect lots of remakes plus new versions of the cheap and easy* games to make.

Obvious choices for the cheap and easy to make games (I expect at least one of these for definite, and it’ll be their Xmas title).

Mario Party,
Warioware
2d Mario
2.5D yoshi/kirby
Mario sports thing (soccer/tennis/olympics/etc)
Arms 2?

Perhaps a big title which is a crossover switch/switch 2 game. (Like Zelda was way back when).

• • just as I know some pedant will pipe up.. I mean “cheaper and easier to make than a full on AAA big title”.. it’s Nintendo, so they’ll still charge full price for it.

99% pre rendered garbage with no gameplay, and generic shootery stuff.

Only thing which remotely interested me was Sonic - and I just know they'll screw that up again..

Game at number one, which doesn’t exist…

@BigE : I can almost guarantee that even if you’re following the games industry with a microscope, the majority of games which might appeal to you would be lost in amongst the crowd of heavily marketed junk.

Considerably cheaper than E3…

The problem is, I dont think the "money men" will take the correct message home on these things.

"Super Mario RPG" remake $60 : people dont want fun/interesting rpgs with mario... it's 100% not because people were unwilling to pay $60 for a SNES game they can get for free or very cheap elsewhere.

"TTYOD" remake : $60 - this has sold really well, this doesnt mean people WANT interesting RPGs with mario - but shows we can remake old games on the cheap and charge $60 for them.. Which we need right now as we're struggling to fill schedule before the next console is made.

... Cue LOTS of remakes/remasters for full price in the next Direct taking us into next year..

@awp69 : SMRPG is ACE.

I'd happily play it again on my snes mini console, etc etc. FOR FREE

But $60 is taking the swearword

I’m drawn. I want to encourage Nintendo to make more good paper Mario games similar to TTYD.. but I don’t want to encourage them to keep charging $60 for remakes of old games.

I went with 7, for no other reason than I've already played it to death on gamecube and new version doesnt offer enough extra content. And it's one of those games which once you beat once, you're not going to go back to.

I was hoping after all these years i'd have forgotten most of it (which is why i bought it), but i was wrong. That said, I wanted to do "my bit" by buying it, and telling nintendo "more of this please, and less of whatever cutdown simplistic crud the new paper marios have turned into"

But I wanted to mark it higher if only because it is STILL a great game, and to negate all the idjets going on about framerate (wrongly imho)

How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

Speaking of which - Do GBoy games on Switch have any enhancements?

Like do they have ability to set colour palette/borders (like when using the snes addon), etc?

and now i have the "completed game" music from mario land in my head.. Awesome music - if you can remember it note by note 30+ years later..

Shame i dont have a subscription (and have no real motivation to get one on switch), as I cant imagine what mario land looks like on a 82" LG tv ...

I mean, the names this easy part.. here’s me coming up with something better without trying :

Graham the Gnu

They copied everything but forgot a cool name, and added ***** music .. that tune really gets energy pumping.

That's not the case. Your tv is set up wrong for games and is ghosting the previous frame for smoothing purposes. Turn that feature off if you dont like it.

Games wont blur the image like that unless it was an artistic choice to do so.

The reason for 60 vs 30 discussion is due to the reaction time between your input and things happening on screen, and for smoother animation (double the amount of tweens), not blurring.

60hz + is very important in a "twitch" style game, like racing or shooting - where you want your interactions to happen immediately on the screen.

Actually, Im not going to bother explaining any further, as you're obviously thinking its something other than it is - and I cant be bothered to continue.. Fill your boots.. I'll just say you're correct and walk away - it's easier - 30fps somehow adds blur to a game.. LOL

@Ironcore : There is NO ghosting effect for 30fps on a game. That is TOTAL nonsense. That's not how games work. You WILL get ghosting on a Live broadcast (for example) where the camera shutter speed is low. But not for a game.

It's physically impossible for a game to "add" blurring based on framerate, unless the game itself chooses to add the bluring for aesthetic purposes.

HOWEVER - If there is a ghosting effect on your TV, you have your TV set up wrong.. Your TV is adding blurring/etc. This is NOT the fault of the game or the console you're playing on.. This is YOU choosing to turn that effect on, on your tv.

That's not the games fault. Turn those features off on your tv.

Glad I finally understood the problem here.. User error.

Sounds like direct is coming next week with all these leaks happening.

Im seeing comments from people who equate games running at 60 the same as a camera recording motion at 60.. That's not the way it works.

A camera is recording motion, games dont add motion which isnt there.

Which is what convinces me the people complaining are really talking nonsense, total emperors clothing.

Im far more annoyed at them charging full price for this thing. Especially as I know how short it is from the first time i played it.

At $20 i would've dipped my foot back into the water and played it again... But as per usual, nintendo is greedy when it comes to setting prices.

@Samalik : it's not a twitch 2d platformer/fps or racing game either. There would be ZERO people noticing the frame rate differences unless they were told about it or comparing side by side.

This is NOT a game where 60hz or 30hz would make ANY difference AT ALL. Heck, I played it originally in the uk on my gamecube at 50hz.

You WOULD notice if it was running at 60 and occasionally dropped to 30, which is why a 30 constant is better than doing that.

That said, the developers could've hit 60 on a game like this easily... If they were willing or able to do it, I'm guessing it's an inexperienced team - or they had a low budget to do it (which didnt have much money put aside for experienced programmers)... So yeah, it could've been done. But if it were my choice of spending more money on a niche game to hit 60 when no-one would notice (unless they were told), I know what I'd choose too...

For a game like this, it will make zero difference. And anyone who says they’d notice without being told is a big fibber.

Oh gees. It’s paper Mario, it’s not some twitch shooter, 60fps or 30fps will make zero difference.

No one would be able to tell on a game like this unless they were told.

I want a sticker of peach doing cowgirl.

I’ll wait for the one made by boys make games

I need my kid to hurry up and get big enough to take

@Jhena : I was more a Tic Tac Toe fan.

Im far more flummoxed about agent 47.

And what’s that Gordon Ramsay cooking show doing in there?

Is this an April fools?

Oh, sorry, said a bad word at the end of that. Mr Mackey says "instead of ***** say poop" as in "As in "Bull-poop," "Poop-head," and "This poop is cold""

Alarm bells rang for me when i saw the retail price for 30 quid. Usually means they expect you to be buying stuff in game ..

Then I saw how quickly it was discounted to 20 quid on release weekend.. Which usually means it is *****.

@Not_Soos : did we watch the same Mario movie?

It was exactly the same as every illumination movie, no plot, lots of set pieces, etc. only thing it was missing was an end credits dance off (I think, the whole thing was so instantly forgettable, I forget)

@Kirgo : exactly.

@coolioam : Nintendo loves you... And are listening ..

@coolioam : Have you played it?

EDIT: Actually I'll add to that. Did YOU pay money for it?
Did you think it was worth the money that you paid for it?
Comparing it to Mario Odyssey or Zelda TOTK - which both cost the SAME amount of money ..
how would you rate your $ cost to enjoyment ratio compared to those other products?

Would you honestly rate Wonder as good or better than those games? OR would you say "meh, it was okay, but it should've been half the price?"

Up to you....

Because Nintendo are listening.. If you're saying Wonder is WORTH the same PRICE as Odyssey - you're telling Nintendo they dont need to spend the money on a new Odyssey... As doing more "Wonders" is FAR FAR FAR cheaper....

Famitsu used to give out high scores incredibly rarely.

Nowadays, just stick a Nintendo sticker on it, and you know the scores will be high.

Mind you, not much different to other reviewers really… look at how much love Mario wonder got..

My worst one is STILL Mario Wonder - if only because website like this one loved it up so much that it convinced me to buy it, despite knowing deep down it wasnt as good as it was being made out to be.

Presumably either because of big ad dollars, or because it was easy (which games reviewers seem to like).

There are worse mario games, but they havent been hyped up so much. Give it a couple of years and wonder will be seen the same as the mario movie is now.

Toss up between Mario land (gameboy) and Mario 64 (n64)

Not because of anything other than memories.

Still too much for a (short) 20 year old game.

A plot?
Character development?

It’s illumination. So I won’t hold my breathe.