Clammy

@Not_Soos : did we watch the same Mario movie?

It was exactly the same as every illumination movie, no plot, lots of set pieces, etc. only thing it was missing was an end credits dance off (I think, the whole thing was so instantly forgettable, I forget)

@Kirgo : exactly.

@coolioam : Nintendo loves you... And are listening ..

@coolioam : Have you played it?

EDIT: Actually I'll add to that. Did YOU pay money for it?
Did you think it was worth the money that you paid for it?
Comparing it to Mario Odyssey or Zelda TOTK - which both cost the SAME amount of money ..
how would you rate your $ cost to enjoyment ratio compared to those other products?

Would you honestly rate Wonder as good or better than those games? OR would you say "meh, it was okay, but it should've been half the price?"

Up to you....

Because Nintendo are listening.. If you're saying Wonder is WORTH the same PRICE as Odyssey - you're telling Nintendo they dont need to spend the money on a new Odyssey... As doing more "Wonders" is FAR FAR FAR cheaper....

Famitsu used to give out high scores incredibly rarely.

Nowadays, just stick a Nintendo sticker on it, and you know the scores will be high.

Mind you, not much different to other reviewers really… look at how much love Mario wonder got..

My worst one is STILL Mario Wonder - if only because website like this one loved it up so much that it convinced me to buy it, despite knowing deep down it wasnt as good as it was being made out to be.

Presumably either because of big ad dollars, or because it was easy (which games reviewers seem to like).

There are worse mario games, but they havent been hyped up so much. Give it a couple of years and wonder will be seen the same as the mario movie is now.

Toss up between Mario land (gameboy) and Mario 64 (n64)

Not because of anything other than memories.

Still too much for a (short) 20 year old game.

A plot?
Character development?

It’s illumination. So I won’t hold my breathe.

@Cathalm : "So as of now Nintendo is releasing no games for the second half of 2024 then"

Which means there will be a Direct presentation around May or June to announce the second half, after these 2 games are released.

Maybe before, but unlikely (which normally means its likely)

So no new direct until at least May then? Gotcha.

Still, could be worse, could be a game based around her emotions…

(I enjoyed playing that one though)

@Clyde_Radcliffe : I don’t think it’s fair to call it shovelware. But I do find (based on demo alone), that it’s a bit patronizing simple just because it’s aimed at “young girls”.

Imho, it’s what old fat marketing men sat around a desk think young girls want, rather than what young girls want.

“Oh, yes, young girls like princesses, they like pink, they like to play dress up, and we want them to feel empowered and better than boys, so let’s give her a sword like a pirate, oh and martial arts, etc…. Hmm, what else do girls like? shoes? Cleaning? Oh, I know! Cooking!”

“let’s also give her tight trousers, just in case her brother is playing”….

“Oh yes, you’re a genius! We can just play dumb about that and say it’s about fashion.. girls like fashion…”

@Croctopus : I disagree it has to be like this because it’s targeted at young girls. My kids would tire of this as quickly as I did, I can’t even convince them to try it.

Imho it’s a bit patronizing to dumb a game down this much just because it’s “for kids” or “for girls”.

It’s the sort of game a well meaning gran will buy for a birthday, only for the child to pretend to enjoy everytime gran comes to visit…. While desperately waiting to play fortnite.

Well, I had no interest in buying it.. played demo to see if it’d change my mind. It didn’t.

@GEKGanon : yip. Im certainly not. And if I did, I'd only get one of them, I certainly wouldnt "own" multiple games which werent one-and-done.. Why would I? If I'm still playing the first one lots?

Everyone seems to be chasing a golden egg laying goose, without knowing why...

@LikelySatan : Sorry, was purposefully not mentioning "The game which must not be named" (*) on here. Quidditch does seem hard to do. But they have pretty much everything already there to make a load of missions using existing assets.

A simple piece of DLC - That potion which enables you to turn into someone else, and access their dorm rooms, etc. So you can see/interact with other houses you didnt get to see in your initial play thru.

Then add missions off each house to be done while pretending to be that house person (sorry - I dont know the terms, my knowledge comes from watching films with my kids - and watching them play the game).

etc etc.. I mean, Im not a game designer, and I can come up with many simple to develop DLC's and missions which wont break the core game.

Not gonna be huge amounts of work - charge a few $. Reap rewards, rinse and repeat.

Then you have your "forever live" game...

But of course, that's not what they mean, they just mean easy to manage online stat driving borefests, loot crates, etc.

Heck, you could even add "loot crates" in the game as it is.. have an owl do a drop off, etc.

What about some post game missions, where whether you decided to play as good or evil changes the story in them, or opens up different options, etc etc?

Add some new spells/weapon types/costumes/etc.

It all seems very easy to me.. but what do i know?

• • im quite proud of that comment, I still can make amazing dad jokes.

Someone with common sense would see the sales figures of WB's "best selling game of 2023" and think “ooh, perhaps we can keep the money rolling in here with dlc?”

But they dont seem to be willing or able to do that, which seems absolutely absurd - considering how many units it sold!

@Aventurier : hrmmm.. I’d be worried about it somehow stopping working… but yes, you are correct.. my brain doesn’t think about physical games any more.. and I’d have to get it for pc, as I don’t have the other formats for it.. which would require getting an external dvd drive…

So this is more appealing

@Aventurier Rocksmith was removed from all digital storefronts in October 2023, and all dlc content removed too.

GIANT ENEMY CRAB!

It’d be down to the trunk.

Make digital games half the price of physical games* and I’ll consider it.

• after all, digital games are much cheaper for them, less shelf space, don’t have to give shop keeper cut, and prevent second hand sales…

Er. It’s paper Mario, not some fps.

There’s no need for it to be 60fps…and I doubt anyone would’ve even noticed if they weren’t told about it.

They were quite clear in their announcement.. software only.

I think this is going to be the first Mario game I pass on.

Just not feeling it at all. Maybe I’ll get bought into the hype when I see people playing it.. but just feel like I’ve been there, done that.

And playing as fat princess peach in an elephant outfit.. meh.

Looks more like Johnny cage that Jcvd.

@Rainz : A prototyping stage of development with no deadline would either mean no deadline for the finished product - or extreme crunch to get it done for this xmas.

They dont have any other big releases for this xmas.. Then again, maybe they were keeping luigi's mansion remake or princess peach as backup plan?

Bull. There was obviously a deadline of this Xmas, for a cheap quick to make filler game to fill gap in schedule.

There may not have been an announced deadline for devs. But it’s not as if they didn’t have a clear release date.

I would've bought it for $30, but not at full price. Just isnt doing anything which really sparks my interest at all.

@RainbowGazelle : Yip, doesnt appeal to me either. I kinda got burned out by 2d mario on the wii.

Seems to me to just be cheap easy to make filler as all their major teams are making titles for new machine.

I’m not convinced the controls will work properly..

The original on Dreamcast worked nearly perfect for me.. if the joycons in demo can do the job, I’m up for a purchase.

Still think they need to add some maracas to the joy cons though.

I find it weird that a few commenters are posting "Well, they have to start somewhere" or "Im working on my first game, it might be crap", etc etc.

Well I can go out with my phone and make an awful film, with absolutely zero talent, maybe I'll just stitch together some public domain clips into it too, doesnt mean I should be able to shove it up on Disney +.

It's not the same as a respectable film maker making something which didnt succeed in being good, etc.

For years, Nintendo used to be VERY harsh on who they even let publish on their consoles. It was IMHO one of the reasons they lost out to the original playstation (Which had much less strict rules, so a bigger catalog of games).

It'd be awful to return to that.. But this is why we cant have nice things.

People are moaning about paying $50 for a 13 year old 360 game.

But will have no problems paying same for a 27 year old snes game which has Mario in it.

@Deadlyblack : lol.. the battles are the only part I’m finding challenging and fun.. funny how people differ isn’t it?

I’m gonna give it a 6/10. That may change as I play it more.. but right now, too easy, too repetitive, too much talking, too much underground bits. And I’m just not finding it much fun.

I keep playing, because I liked the earlier games so much and I’m hoping it’ll get to point where I start having fun. But if this was my first Pikmin game, I would’ve stopped playing by now.

I haven’t really played it enough to give a score. But after 6 hrs or so of play, I’m finding it too simplistic and easy.. and not really wanting to play on - not like I did with earlier games in series.

So I don’t know if I’ll bother playing enough to give it a score. Which I guess means I’d review it badly…

Also, while I love the overground visuals, the underground visuals are very basic and repetitive…

@Adol-Bannings : How so? I said "New console announced in next 6 months."

And I still stand by that.

My link is seemingly constantly wet and dripping when he’s talking to people, even when indoors.

Looks daft, hope that’s fixed.

Why would they? When they can charge full price for them?

Heck, why even bother with snes games when they can charge for them?

@sonicmeerkat : it is winding down for next gen. None of the Nintendo made announced games would require big teams.

It doesn’t take much to reskin nsmb and add some new gimmicks.

@NintendoEternity : wow, you really don’t like other people having a different opinion to you do you?

I’m not forcing you to not buy overpriced filler titles.. if you want to, fill your boots…

But no need to get upset and personal about it… it’s your choice, not mine.

Meh, I’m grumpy .. neither appeal to me. Certainly not full price for a 2D platformer anyhow.

I’ll stick with nsmb if I want to play that.

Shame they’ve not up resed textures.

The emulation community did that with this game years ago.

I’ve finished the original game. My problem with this is it’s too short, this isn’t a selling point to me.

If I’m going to spend $60 on a new game, i want it to last.

.. instead, i can just get my snes mini out and play through it again while drunk and imagining the pretty visuals.