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Bayonetta 2 Director Eager to "Nurture" the Series With Nintendo Again in the Future

Posted by Thomas Whitehead

"There's a lot that we learned from Nintendo"

Bayonetta 2 is getting increasingly close to its arrival on Wii U, and when you throw in the inclusion / release of an updated Bayonetta, albeit in different deals per region, it could be enough to keep Nintendo gamers busy for a good while from October onwards. It's easy to forget, too, how big an impact the announcement of the sequel's Wii U exclusivity had back in 2012, and both Platinum Games and Nintendo will be hoping that the hype and buzz will help the new game to strong sales.

Speaking to CVG during E3, Bayonetta 2 director Yusuke Hashimoto explained a little more about the project and the working relationship between Platinum and Nintendo. Perhaps unsurprisingly he was positive about the experience, explaining that his team has worked with a degree of freedom but also learned from feedback and assistance.

I feel that it's important to let your creativity flow and Nintendo has been able to provide us with the freedom to do what we had originally envisioned. We were able to have a lot of back-and-forth between Platinum Games and Nintendo and they were able to provide objective feedback; 'Maybe that's a little too much', or, 'maybe you should try this'. I feel that was really good and helped push Bayonetta 2 to even higher quality.

We started out with a fundamental freedom, with Nintendo telling us to go and create the game as we saw fit. But as the game started to take shape and we were starting to put all the pieces together, they were able to point out some things that we didn't realise ourselves. That was really helpful for us.

The release of an updated version of the original Bayonetta was one of the most pleasing reveals of the LA event, meanwhile, as it'll allow Nintendo gamers to enjoy both titles in the correct order. It has Nintendo-themed outfits for Samus Aran, Princess Peach and Link included — by the request of Hideki Kamiya — and Hashimoto-san has also teased that more outfits will be included that are yet to be announced. The goal was clearly to take advantage of the system rather than do a rough port, as seen with the inclusion of touch screen controls and, intriguingly, gyroscope controls.

During the development of Bayonetta 2 we had a discussion with Nintendo about how great it would be to offer the ability to play Bayonetta 1 on the same console, which is how it happened. Of course it had to be a perfect port, but on top of that we wanted to add some additional, fun features that we wanted to see such as new costumes.

We added the new costumes that I mentioned, as well as touch screen controls. We also added support for gyro sensors - I can't really divulge where we use them, but they're in there. As far as the port work is concerned, it's never easy to port to any system, but as we were developing Bayonetta 2 we became very familiar with the features of the Wii U so it worked out OK.

Once you ship a game for a piece of hardware, you get to know it very, very well. I'm glad that I had the opportunity to do so with Wii U.

As this sequel had to be 'saved' by Nintendo, it's likely that the fate of the franchise will necessitate strong sales, though Hashimoto-san is eager for the series — going beyond one game per IP is relatively rare for Platinum — to continue further. He's also keen that it remains a partnership with Nintendo.

Whenever we create a new IP it's always very challenging, and so as a game developer I feel that whenever we are able to successfully do that it's really important to be able to nurture it. That's what the company wanted to do with Bayonetta and also there were a lot of people who wanted to see a sequel to the original game.

I personally also wanted to create a second game as well. It's because these expectations for a sequel matched that this game came about. Should the opportunity arise I'd definitely like to keep nurturing this franchise. It might not be me [directing], but should somebody else take over I would definitely be there to support and help just as Mr. Kamiya has for me. Though there's a chance I could direct in future as well!

...In terms of nurturing the content of this game, there's a lot that we learned from Nintendo and if possible we would love to do it again and keep nurturing our child.

Are you excited about the Bayonetta games coming to Wii U? Is it a series you'd like to see continue into the future on Nintendo hardware? Let us know.

[via computerandvideogames.com]

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Aslanmagic

#1

Aslanmagic said:

Will be picking it up, hoping even more games come to wii u. It really is a good system

sinalefa

#2

sinalefa said:

"and Hashimoto-san has also teased that more outfits will be included that are yet to be announced."

I knew it. This makes me happy. I wonder if the gyroscope is there for the driving sections.

Shanksta

#3

Shanksta said:

So excited! The announcement of bayonetta 1 on the wiiu was awesome because I have yet to play it. (I have other systems, I was just hoping this would happen)

Gerbwmu

#6

Gerbwmu said:

I may have to buy this and stock it away for a while. I can't exactly play these types of titles in front of the children but it seems like good fun and is something I can play months or years down the line.

Blast

#7

Blast said:

Great news and it sounds like Bayonetta 3 might be coming if Bayonetta 2 sells great and is received well.

Mega719

#8

Mega719 said:

Oh please let it stay Nintendo exclusive even as their own franchise, it upsetted me when I heard Platinum's new games showing that they are still 3rd party despite interest in becoming a Nintendo 2nd party ( I know was just a thought). This would be good to remain a Nintendo franchise as this represents the wider audience that Nintendo knows they need to represent more which they also seem to be doing with Tecmo too. Plus ironically people have to accept this as Nintendo and Bayonetta apparently exist in the same universe

ultraraichu

#9

ultraraichu said:

They are just fill of surprises. I can't wait for this to come out. At least I have my Wonderful 101 to hold me over till then.

Pod

#10

Pod said:

Really hoping this one gets the attention it deserves from its established fanbase and curious newcomers alike.

The rage at the original reveal of exclusivity was rather disappointing, when people should really just be happy that a sequel done by the original creators exists in the first place.

I know I'd be stoked to play Banjo Threeie even if it had to be on an Xbox One.

2Sang

#12

2Sang said:

Will we be getting a club nintendo code with the physical copy? Is this being published by nintendo?

Hy8ogen

#13

Hy8ogen said:

@Pod True stuff. If today Crapcom annouce that Megaman X10 will be exclusive to the PS4 and the game will be co-produced by Comcept, I will go out and buy a PS4 right now and wait for the game.

I don't understand those people who was like "Only for the Wii U? Such bull****, I have been waiting all my life for a sequel and now it's on the Wii U? Pathetic PG!".
I seriously don't get it. Just get a Wii U and play it god damn it.

Emblem

#15

Emblem said:

People better pick this game up, the attachment rate for some Wii U games has been disappointing considering all the whining for new games i see everywhere.

Jazzer94

#16

Jazzer94 said:

Lets try to actually support and make this release successful guys and show that the right kind of well crafted non Nintendo games can sell on the system I mean we are getting both Bayonetta's which was the big complaint. I also hope this gets a proper advertising campaign from Nintendo in the west seriously this game is going to be amazing I don't want it to tank.
Sorry for the mini rant

sinalefa

#17

sinalefa said:

@Hy8ogen

That is the reason why I may end up getting an Xbox One, as Kamiya is making a new exclusive IP for it. No use in throwing a tantrum.

Gen0neD

#18

Gen0neD said:

At this point, its official... i can't take it anymore. Where's a flex capacitor when i need one?

Gen0neD

#19

Gen0neD said:

@sinalefa Ha. Me too. I saw that trailer and was like,"Welp, looks like i'll be picking XB1 when Scalebound come out." Mario Kart and Bayo are why i bought a wiiu

millarrp

#20

millarrp said:

I am looking forward to these games. I hope they sell well enough for platinum games to continue supporting the Wii U, even if it isn't Bayonetta 3...

rjejr

#21

rjejr said:

I'm beginning to worry this game may get lost in the Hyrule Warriors hype, which is out Sept 26 in the US and this is Oct. Would make a good Halloween release, she is a witch after all, and Nintneod has released a few games on Friday recently. But it will still need some marketing, HW is getting all kinds of coverage and goodies.

Want them both, so I'm sold, I'm just talking about some general marketing. Maybe they can get M&Ms to have B&B on them for Bayonetta 1 &2. :-)

outburst

#22

outburst said:

2-disc physical or bust! :D just kidding. I'm going 2-disc physical if available and at the same price out I'm going both digital. :D I hope for Bayo3 Wii U exclusive before we get the next console.

DBPirate

#23

DBPirate said:

Won't be picking up the game but I'm glad Platinum Games is getting more experience with Nintendo and I'm glad they enjoyed the Wii U system.

Sir_JBizzle

#25

Sir_JBizzle said:

I agree with everyone in hoping that Bayo 2 does well! I'd ultimately like to see a greater relationship between Platinum and Nintendo. Nintendo would be wise to heavily promote this game and not let it fall into the rut that the W101 did. It was an excellent game, but boy did the lack of marketing stink!

Shambo

#26

Shambo said:

When that first image of Bayonetta with long hair appeared in the E3 event, I nearly jumped out of my seat. Then for a moment thought it was just a different skin, and then actually jumped when I saw it was the first game WITH bonus features.

And more costumes yet to be announced? BY ALL MEANS! Zero Suit PLEASE! Also, Midna's fused shadows could serve as a nice substitute for Bayonetta's "hair-suit". And since this is Platinum Games: Madworld had some awesome female characters as well... Just saying. Black and white filter, red blood, Bayonetta as Rinrin, Mathilda, or Elise, and a Herr Frederick von Twirlenkiller boss fight... Just saying.

Them being hopeful to create even more Bayonetta after this, makes me even more hopeful too! Or other Wii U games.

Emblem

#28

Emblem said:

@rjejr Doubt it, although Hyrule Warrors may get swallowed up by the Destiny and/or Smash 3ds hype as they are very close together.

Bayo2 (late Oct release) will likely get drowned out in the October AAA massacre: Dragon Age, Alien, Evolve, LOTR,Smash 3DS, Sunset Overdrive, Ass Creed unity, Drive Cub, Fonza 2, Evil Within, NBA2k15, WWE2k15 and Battlefield are all releasing around the same time, its actually ridiculous.

Of course i'm talking about multi-console owners and not just Wii U owners. For them the choice will be easy since there is only one retail release per month.

vamkar

#29

vamkar said:

I read an article about the demise of RARE studios. And several members of Rare stated that what made those N64 games so special was the creative collaboration between Rare and Nintendo. The Big N gave them the freedom to make the game they wanted, but offered their advice and expertise to refine and improve the game. When RARE lost that creative input the games suffered.
By the sounds of it Nintendo still have that touch with their dev partners, what few of them there are now.

Darknyht

#30

Darknyht said:

This on my bubble list, but the addition of the first game makes it a little more appealing. I will probably wait and see reviews and some let's play video first before making a final judgement.

erv

#31

erv said:

@Emblem yep, I call it publisher hypocrisy. Launching at idiot timeframes because they work on paper according to a number crunching analyst, then just complaining things don't sell while facing crushing competition.

I wish this franchise the best though.

audiobrainiac

#32

audiobrainiac said:

"We've learned a lot from Nintendo" seems to be a popular saying with some developers lately. The Big N sure does have a lot of experience. Can't wait to get this game, and yet, i must. But i digress.

WanderingPB

#33

WanderingPB said:

I want more games from Platinum period!

Also sum more teaser trailers to increase the HYPE up until it's release date would also be sweet Nintendo!

@sinalefa im with u on this too…personally i prefer PS4 but Scalebound has me reconsidering the XBone…but regardless i wish Platinum games success on whatever platform they develop for…

Remember boys and girls its all about playing great games and having fun with those experiences…console wars are truly redundant because its just stupid to miss out on such incredible games due to a self deluded bias

MrGawain

#34

MrGawain said:

I would assume Nintendo would have first option to the 3rd game written in their contract?

Frankly I look at the 'why is Bayonetta on Nintendo, they don't usually have this sort of game' argument in reverse. On the other 2 consoles, Bayonetta is competing against so many similar games and is lost, whereas it adds variety to Nintendo's already diverse stable of exclusives. Plus I think for fans of Japanese videogames, humour, and storytelling it fits Ninty's platform better than the US-centric Xbox.

As for those other Bayonetta cosplay costumes? Donkey Kong's tie and collar combo? Hmm. Sonic's Red sneaker minimalist look? Err... Or Yoshi's saddle...

...I can't see how any of this stuff is getting through the censors. Wonder Toilet and Chase McCain it is then!

kensredemption

#35

kensredemption said:

@WanderingPB

"Remember boys and girls its all about playing great games and having fun with those experiences…console wars are truly redundant because its just stupid to miss out on such incredible games due to a self deluded bias"

Indeed. It's for this reason that I'm such a strong advocate for cross-platform games between PC/Mac/NWU/PS4/XBO/Mobiles. Gaming is meant to bring people together and either have fun or have healthy competition. These console war degenerates are enemies of progression and insist on rehashing the same experiences in gaming as before and just call it "next-gen" because of minor hardware updates.

Personally, I don't feel like we've reached the next generation yet only because gaming still feels segregated and the only innovations have come from Nintendo's control schemes. Give me a game that connects gamers all over the world no matter what platform they play on sand then I'll acknowledge the next generation of gaming has arrived.

sasoriobi

#36

sasoriobi said:

"Personally, I don't feel like we've reached the next generation yet only because gaming still feels segregated and the only innovations have come from Nintendo's control schemes. Give me a game that connects gamers all over the world no matter what platform they play on sand then I'll acknowledge the next generation of gaming has arrived" sorry but the ps4 and xbox one are real next gen conosles but are current gen. the wii u is just a current gen console with terrible cpu performence, terrible disc reader/ speed spin, out dated 2009 gpu and a gimmick gamepad that doesn't really add anything new but just a paper wheight and destriactions in most games like tekken tag tournament wii u edition. next gen is here but that wii u is not a part of it because it doesn't even have ps3/xbox360 features nor any of the ps4/xbox one features. why is wii u based off of powerpc while x86 allows more gpu power to be used in games.

sinalefa

#37

sinalefa said:

@WanderingPB

It does not hurt that both consoles are priced the same now. I have never had a MS console, so things like Halo and Forza are new to me. But I am still waiting a year or two for both machines to have a better, beefier game selection.

Farmboy74

#40

Farmboy74 said:

Shots fired on a potential 3rd Bayonetta game if this sells well. That news alone will cause the internet to melt down.
Seriously though I hope this game sells well.

raith

#42

raith said:

New Bayonetta or not, I would love to see more collaborations between Nintendo and Platinum.

whodatninja

#43

whodatninja said:

Well I have it pre-ordered, despite still being murky on the inclusion of Bayo 1... SUPPORT PLATINUM!

FJOJR

#45

FJOJR said:

On my radar. These guys worked their butts off and should be rewarded for it.

ModestFan93

#46

ModestFan93 said:

Future Bayonetta games on Nintendo hardward you say? Bayonetta for Smash then please. =w=

WanderingPB

#47

WanderingPB said:

@sasoriobi seems like ur avatar fits ur mentality perfectly…but like Aizen underestimating Ichigo(Nintendo) shall be ur downfall…but i ain't mad at cha actually i feel sad b/c im sure in some way u actually believe that rhetoric maybe when u grow up ur perspectives will grow too…good luck buddy

@kensredemption im going to have to copy & paste ur comment because i couldn't have said any better myself. In fact i dont even bother with the whole "next gen/current gen" debate im too busy playing great games to really care just like i still go to my corner store that still has a Marvel vs Capcom arcade because regardless of how old it is i still have fun playing it! …oh and all the buttons still work so there goes all my quarters LOL!

@sinalefa i hear ya that price drop put it back on my radar but like u im waiting for those exclusives to sway my decision because honestly most of the games i want are coming out in 2015 and are multiplats but definitely will have one when Phantom Pain comes out…i must have it!!! But im still weighing my options because like u my friend i go to where the games are…im just a simple gamer playing games to have fun ya know LOL!!

Gamecubed

#48

Gamecubed said:

Have this on preorder and I'm excited. Reading some of the comments, it's good to see I'm not the only one either. The game deserves to sell well.
It's good to hear that they have had a positive experience working with Nintendo on the project. If all goes well with sales and whatnot, perhaps Bayo 3 could one day be in the cards for the Wii U as well?

I feel like Bayonetta is a good fit with Nintendo too. On the other systems it has a lot to compete with and it often gets drowned out by other games, whereas it's able to stand out amongst Nintendo's already stellar lineup.

Tritonus

#49

Tritonus said:

@rjejr

Personally, I'm way more exited for Beyonetta 1+2 than for Hyrule Warriors.

I'm a huge Zelda fan, but I've never played any dynasty warriors games or even Beyonetta 1, but juding by what I've seen I simply think Beyonetta looks more fun. Something looks a little off in Hyrule Warriors to me.

Leu10antFalcon

#52

Leu10antFalcon said:

With the full support from Nintendo, I see that Bayonetta 2 is gonna be one of the best Wii U exclusive titles ever made. I can't refuse this offer... especially the enhanced HD original. Already, my hype meter is over 9,000 and the anticipation is gonna be the mother of all worthiness. I'll continue supporting Nintendo and Platinum Games and hope for episode 3 of the Bayonetta franchise.

mamp

#53

mamp said:

Bayonetta 2 first day purchase, my most anticipated title since it was announced only Smash comes close 2nd. Already played the first game but these Nintendo costumes will have me coming back (luckily it's one of those games you can play multiple times).

vamkar

#54

vamkar said:

Nintendo deserves all of the gamers respect. Nintendo is the reason why games are still being made, and so called "hardcore" gamers would know that Nintendo deserves its exclusives, so gamers need to stop pouting just because the Wii-u is getting an exclusive game they like.

rjejr

#55

rjejr said:

@Emblem - "Of course i'm talking about multi-console owners and not just Wii U owners. For them the choice will be easy since there is only one retail release per month."

I have to say, even if I owned another next/this gen console, I'm still not really interested in any of those games, making me realize how odd of a gamer I am, and why I own a Wii U. Good thing Wii U got Bayonetta though, huh? If Hyrule Warriors is late summer and SSB is holiday its really the only autumn game Wii U has. Not good.

Will-75

#56

Will-75 said:

I've been excited since they announced this game I played the first one on PS3 and loved it , at heart I've always been a Nintendo fan and I love the Wii U so when they announced updated version of the first title coming out with two , lets just say I'm countng the days can't wait I think it would be awesome if they continue to work on the series and keep Bayonetta exclusive to Nintendo , AWESOME I think it would be so awesome to see Bayonetta appear in Smash Bros. as well, keeping fingers crossed .

Peach64

#57

Peach64 said:

I really hope this sells. Platinum are one lucky dev in that platform holders and even some Japanese publishers still regard them as a big draw despite so many sales flops. I'd rather see a new IP than Bayonetta 3 though. Part of the reason I love Kamiya is that he doesn't do sequels and always wants to make something new.

manic221

#58

manic221 said:

Wasn't a huge fan of the first Bayonetta but i'll be buying this not only to support Nintendo but also to support Platinum who have supported us so far... Also Bayonetta 2 looks like a marked improvement over the first so we shall see.

TheWPCTraveler

#59

TheWPCTraveler said:

I'm buying this because two games for the price of one is a ridiculously good deal.

Here's to hoping the people who are complaining about Bayonetta making her home on the Wii U stop doing so. This most likely wouldn't exist without Ninty's support.

kwandar

#63

kwandar said:

@Emblem The attach rate at MINIMUM exceeds 5 per unit. That isn't bad, and it's climbing. My personal attach rate is probably 25+

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