The Wii U library is small, but also diverse and exciting; Bayonetta 2 from Platinum Games arrives as a system exclusive to forge its own brilliantly destructive path. Its arrival with a port of the original Bayonetta gives Nintendo gamers an opportunity to dive into this developing franchise in full, and also illustrates the subtle but tangible improvements that ensure improvement in the new entry. This is the release that action fans have been waiting for on Wii U.
Through this new release Platinum Games moves forward with the storytelling groundwork of the original, as Bayonetta's friendship with Jeanne kicks off proceedings, with recurring characters such as Rodin also thrown in; in typical style the storyline gets into its stride particularly quickly. The introduction of Loki sets the agenda for the plot, along with the initially mysterious Masked Lumen, and despite the finer points perhaps being easy to miss the storytelling is — like its predecessors' — put together well.
Bayonetta herself comes with a redesign — as does Jeanne — though remains the same powerful, flirty and mischievous figure. This is still a game that can be cringe inducing at times in its portrayal of our hero, though it's dialled back a tiny amount in this sequel; there's still a semi-naked body with special moves comprised of hair and plenty of suggestive dialogue, camera shots and brutal torture moves. That's simply what you sign up for with this game, and male-fantasy accusations aside our witch is a dominant character that takes nonsense from no man — or woman — at any point. She keeps Loki et al under her spell, showing strong characteristics and driving the entire plot through her presence; for those concerned about such things, that's our take.
That bombast and devil-may-care attitude is typical of this IP and its developer, and it must be said perfectly suits the genre of which it's a shining example. Action combat titles aren't as common in this 3D era as they perhaps were in bygone times, but Bayonetta 2 stands as a fine modern example of how to bring the best out of the genre. At a basic level you string together combos with a mix of two core attacks — hands and feet — to produce stronger moves and obliterate all-comers. There's plenty of complexity besides, however, as you put most of the GamePad or Pro Controller inputs to work.
With the useful comparison point of the first title, the combat here feels tighter and more immediate — certainly a good deal more instinctive and accessible. Witch Time — in which you slow time with a well-timed dodge — remains as a key mechanic and main opportunity for putting together stronger combos, and seems easier to initiate this time out. It's a subtle tweak, but even in higher difficulties that action feels fairer in this sequel, assisted by clearer enemy attacks and patterns; to be clear this isn't dumbed down, but better. Attacks flow with a tangible fluidity, and even though you'll be attacking and dodging with lightning fast button presses, you should always feel in control — this was a quality that could be slightly lost in the first game.
A new feature that serves as an accommodation for weaker players or a vital tool in brutal difficulties is the Umbran Climax — once a gauge is filled Bayonetta can briefly become a great deal more powerful, initiating hugely destructive attacks and combo finishers. In contrast that same gauge can be exchanged for a torture attack, which can destroy or severely weaken an enemy; it's a useful trade-off as you decide whether you want to initiate crowd control or target one specific enemy.
The action certainly gets adrenaline pumping, and Platinum Games has moved a step closer to perfection in its template here. There's simply greater variety in environments across the campaign — which will take 8-12 hours initially — that explores fantastical settings in the real world and beyond, while set-pieces are occasionally extraordinary. You surf on a cathedral door around a typhoon of water, fight aboard a doomed fighter jet in New York, ride through the depths of Hell and much more besides. The tempo does vary with some longer, more exploratory levels in which you can soak in a large area, while other occasions are sheer blockbuster bombast — it's some of the most exciting gaming we've seen in recent times.
There's depth to the campaign, then, and also far more below the surface in mechanics. There are buff items to collect and forge, along with a collection of varied weapons to find, purchase and combine — finding a mix of guns, swords and whips that work well together is a particularly enjoyable part of the experience. The feel of combat and combos changes depending on your setup, and you can equip hands and feet with different types; you also have two presets that are easily switched mid-battle, with possibilities such as equipping slower, more powerful weapons when the situation suits. It all contributes to applying greater complexity to the combat system, allowing committed players to successfully replay stages and scenarios in punishing difficulty settings after honing their skills and inventory.
It's entirely possible that players will want to keep coming back, too, as Bayonetta 2 is a tour de force of design. On a superficial level the title looks fantastic — truly putting the Wii U through its paces — but it's the overwhelming commitment that Platinum has to this original franchise that shines through. A welcome improvement is a far brighter, more vivid palette than the filtered and sombre colours of the original; the new look perhaps portraying Bayonetta's improved sense of identity. The enemy designs follow suit, with some stunning new creations that bring to mind a mix of gothic horror, medieval tropes and modern flashes of Platinum's own approach. We move from almost traditional monsters to modern part-machine-part-demon foes, and they truly set the scene with each appearance.
That flashy presentation truly helps with immersion, too, sweeping you away into a setting of fantasy and extravagance. Every care has been taken to ensure style meets substance, right down to the fantastic soundtrack, dramatic cutscenes and occasionally campy voice acting. There are Nintendo outfits, of course, with Samus Aran and the Star Fox-themed options being true standouts with fun ability variations to match — related Easter Eggs and features such as aiming reticules add to the fun. The Link outfit is also a treat, though the Peach and Daisy variations certainly feature a little subversive sleaziness with blatantly revealing skirts; the latter two perhaps cross the line from flirtatious to embarrassing. There are plenty of other outfits to buy with in-game currency, too, in order to shake things up.
The Shop is also particularly important for buying abilities and equippable items. The former are vital, with some that allow easier initiation of Witch Time or expand your attack options and combinations; the latter can also improve your power when weakened, ensure more treasures for defeating enemies, and various other advantageous effects.
The depth of the experience is in little doubt, then, and the campaign's chapters lend themselves — through their compulsive action — to replays, whether looking for hidden items, collectible crows, Muspelheim challenge arenas or encounters that have been missed before; taking on higher difficulty levels is also worthwhile. There are only occasional scenarios that can frustrate by dropping below the high-standards elsewhere, with some boss encounters or on-rails sequences stripping away the freedom of movement that serves the combat so well. We're nitpicking, however, as even less favoured levels are hugely enjoyable.
Importantly, system performance holds up well, absolutely vital with an action game heavily dependent on a good frame rate. Dips come occasionally when Umbran Climax is initiated, for example, but it matters little as your attacks need little finesse to flatten enemies in that scenario, and it's clear that the developers have worked hard to ensure that trickier sequences run smoothly. As we indicated previously, too, the brighter visuals and clearer enemy designs also ensure that their attacks are a little easier to choreograph and avoid. Technical analysis may show that this title's frame rate fluctuates a little more than the original due to its attractive visuals, yet the gameplay experience doesn't feel compromised. If we felt the game unfairly punished us it was not due to any technical problems, as the action feels responsive throughout, but in occasional set-pieces where drama was prioritised over freedom of movement and control.
The Bayonetta 2 campaign, then, is a terrific effort and a proud new representative of how to bring together an intense action game in this current generation. As with many modern day efforts, however, an online mode must be shoehorned in, and the co-op Tag Climax mode does feel rather throwaway and unnecessary. It's poorly structured in one respect right off the bat, as it allows you to easily send friend requests to those you've played with, but doesn't seem to allow easy hook-ups with those on your Friend List; we tried to play with a Friend and found no such useful option, only one that offered to place you with a Random partner or a friend, which didn't work. An odd omission.
In general we were able to jump into random matches relatively easily, however. You and one other play through six scenarios known as Verse Cards, which are automatically unlocked with progress in the campaign, and the player choosing the stage can set the difficulty by 'betting' Halos (the currency). These scenarios range from 30-90 seconds each, typically, and recreate specific challenges, fights or variations on these from the game; though it is co-op and you can revive each other, the player with the best score 'wins' and receives a sizeable Halo bonus. The rewards are handsome, so succeeding with your partner and outperforming them is rather important. If you don't want to play online or simply want easy wins you can also play with the CPU.
It's functional but unexciting, overall, but is necessary due to the huge prizes of Halos on offer. Unlocking all of the moves, goodies and enticing goods in the Shop will take a particularly long time through replaying campaign chapters alone, so Tag Climax is a way to make quick money. Its purpose is limited to that alone, however, and the action can become a little muddled and prone to button mashing with two characters fighting at once; even in scripted team-ups within the campaign it doesn't feel quite as frantic and messy. The Tag Climax structure and scenarios simply don't excite in the way campaign chapters can, while the implementation and co-op gameplay could simply be better; local co-op would perhaps be more riotously fun and step in for the lack of communication on offer, but it's not included.
Tag Climax is, then, an anti-climax, as is the touch control option on the GamePad. As explained in our Bayonetta review it's functional but unnecessary, an inferior method of control in a game that, frankly, will never suit gamers who'd sooner use a touch screen over buttons in the genre. Holding, tapping and swiping works, but is not a satisfying way to play — off-TV play, however, is always welcome.
Ultimately, however, the bolted-on touch controls and online co-op are inoffensive, and do nothing to detract from the main campaign. Here's an adventure full of depth, replayability, outrageous action and — above all else — fun gameplay. It's frantic and often more than a little crazy, and importantly is the sequel that Bayonetta deserves, staying true to the core style while making notable improvements and tweaks to the formula. It's also part of an endangered species, as challenging third-person 3D action games aren't particularly common, often because they can feel flawed, repetitive and mindless. Bayonetta 2 can't be accused of any of those vices, however, which makes it a standard-bearer and a treat for Wii U owners.
Conclusion
Bayonetta 2 is is a must buy for any action gaming fan. It's fast, intense and ridiculous, all with an entertaining story and a protagonist that is forever subverting and playing with her audience. It's pure Platinum Games, too, which means it'll likely be adored by its converts and ignored by too many — we hope that won't happen, as what we have here is one of the Wii U's best games, and a rare arrival on the system that's unashamedly violent, gory and mature, while still mischievously winking at the watching world. Bayonetta 2 is brilliant, brash and impossible to ignore.
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Can't wait to get this!
Still reading the review but omg!!! So hyped to play this!!
Told ya it'll be a 9!
Jose Otero gave it a 9.5!
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GameSpot a 10!?!
Had no intention of buying this, downloaded the demo and it blew me away. An absolute feast for the senses!
I could be totally wrong... But I still think Bayonetta 2 will eventually lose Nintendo exclusivity and end up a "timed exclusive" being ported to PS3/4 and/or 360/One. I just don't see Platinum keeping it exclusive especially seeing how small the audience is for such games on Wii U. Or they could go the Kingdom Hearts route and have single sequels exclusive to an entire assortment of hardware platforms. o_O
Sounds like a great review, and one that does justice to this type of game. I will probably get this someday down the line, but I already have Bayonetta 1 and haven't finished it...
@c1pher_c0mplet The game's producer said that the game would not exist without Nintendo's involvement. I wouldn't see that happening.
Great detailed review @ThomasBW85!
I spotted "Tax Climax is, then, an anti-climax".
@c1pher_c0mplet doubtful as Nintendo bankrolled this venture. Platinum simply won't have the option of releasing on other platforms.
@c1pher_c0mplet Nintendo co-developed it with its own staff. They didn't just fund it.
I'm not a big fan of Platinum games either. I just don't find them entertaining; extraordinary gore, naked disproportionate women and gun heels didn't do much for me to fix that.
I am glad that this was a Wii U exclusive however. Regardless of my thoughts on the content matter I am intelligent enough to know it has its market and that this market is otherwise unrepresented on Nintendo's hardware.until now and Devil's Third up and coming.
Hell yes! Next Friday needs to hurry up
I plan on calling in sick to work for this game.
@Discostew Not sure where you're getting that but in interviews with Atsushi Inaba he says that Nintendo barely interfered, let alone aided in development.
Wow! There's something about this game. It's not usually my type of purchase but I have this preordered. I'm looking forward to it!
Well I'm going to ignore it, didn't like the demo at all.
@c1pher_c0mplet Yeah, because even if they had enough money immediately to produce another game, violating a contract would be a great business practice for Platinum. lol
"The Wii U library is small, but also diverse" I don't think its diverse doesn't even have a few entries in the main genres. (Or any for that matter in quite a few).
It has loads of stuff in a few genres which is the opposite of diversity.
@BensonUii D'oh! Fixed that, though Tax Climax would be a clever way for politicians to make us feel good about tax rises, or something...
@jakysnakydx http://www.ign.com/videos/2014/10/07/nintendo-bayonettas-new-home
The MAIN reason I got a WII U. Can't wait for this game to be released. The 1st Bayonetta game was a favorite of mine on the 360. Not expecting Mario Kart 8 sales figures here of course, but I hope the game does sells pretty decent. I know I will be picking it up.
@Dazza Interesting. Wasn't aware. Thanks for the info, bud (and for not being snarky). Haven't been up on Bayonetta 2 news for awhile.
@maneauleau I was just about to link that.
I recently picked up the first game on a whim for PS3 after playing the demo some years ago and a few days later received a Wii U as a birthday gift of my boyfriend. From the demo and reviews this looks like it's going to be a hella lot of fun.
@Discostew High 5
Glad to know its good. I may pick it up as a last hurrah into gaming. Maybe it will quell my interest in gaming again. Here's hoping.
@sinalefa will be pleased.
Go buy this game. You're squandering your Wii U if you don't.
This game is one of the top five reasons I got my Wii U I cannot wait I knew it would be AWESOME ..
Awesome, the game sounds fantastic!
The demo was brilliant, will definitely pick this up!
@BensonUii What's with the surprise? This game is a legitimate 10/10. This is after all the perfect action game for a lot of people.
Woohoo!!!!
Can't wait to play both!
Man, Nintendo has showcased this game well. I can't wait until I get a WiiU. This game looks awesome.
The review has me so pumped to play this which sucks as I won't be able to for like a month and a half even though the game will be at my house as I preordered.
Birthday present right here.
I think we all knew this game was going to be good, and the only question was what we were going to do with our time until it came out.
I'm guessing reading comments of envious non Wii U owners who either have decided to hate the game or explain theories of how it will still come to their system is one way....
This game is one of my GOTY contenders, on any system. It's just an excellent game. I've played through Easy, Normal and Hard difficulties, currently on my Infinite Climax play through and I'm still having an absolute blast.
I just hope this game does well in terms of sales, because it damn well deserved it. Stunning.
Read some other reviews as well, and even IGN and Gamespot praise to game endlessly!
IGN has NO negative points, and Gamespot has only one:
"The sad realisation that future action games may never top this".
I knew I needed this, I pre-ordered the first print edition, played the demo, and decided that when a game this good fails to get acceptable sales at least, I quit gaming.
@c1pher_c0mplet It's not Platinum's choice - Nintendo own the pubishing rights, which is why the lead programmer said you may as well ask Nintendo to release Mario on other platforms.
@Nimious A legitimate perfect games for fans of the genre is different from a perfetct game. I don't care for male fantasy (excuses that it's okay because she's a dominatrix are weak), but I'll try the demo before I make up my mind, but this requires my internet working properly (stupid Australian corroding copper)
It's weird that this review somehow managed to praise this game for it's occasional frame rate slowdown but really dug into Hyrule Warriors for the same.
They also attacked HW for having a last gen engine, just like this sequel.
@MadAdam81 Having played both Hyrule Warriors and the Bayo 2 demo, the graphics differences between these 2 games are huge. And dropping from 60fps occasionally down to 40-45 fps (in places where gameplay doesn't matter, if I understand the reviews correctly) is quite different to dropping to the levels in HW local 2-player during crucial gameplay.
That conclusion just .....WOW. I'm not on the fence anymore!
@MadAdam81 That HW reveiw was BS, there was lots of misinformation and conjecture that i highlighted and the reviewer didnt even bother to check his facts and amend the content.
@MadAdam81 There's no such thing as a perfect game then.... 10/10 Would be a useless variable as it will never be attainable but luckily that's not the case as games are judged by genre.
Bayonetta 2 has a very legitimate case for being a 10/10 action game and it really does not surprise me to see Gamespot give it that perfect score. Fans of the action genre will generally love this game.
@c1pher_c0mplet Never going to happen. This title would not exist without Nintendo stepping in, and the producer has already tweeted to many Xbox and PS users, that they might as well ask for Mario or Zelda to be released on those systems. It does make me laugh, XB1 users get their exclusivrs as does the PS4, however, as soon as the Wii U gets one that the other platform players wanted, they start to shout and cry that Nintendo should not be allowed to have exclusives like this. Why the hell not? What makes it ok for XB1 and PS4 to have their own exclusives, but not Wii U? Simple I guess, the original did not come out on a Nintendo system, and now we get the re-mastered original and what looks to be an absolute amazing sequel.
@MrGawain do some people still believe this is going to come out on other systems?
what a bunch of idiots I mean Nintendo funded the game are they really that delusional?
Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, ohboyohboyohboy! Still more than a week to go! I'm playing the demo almost every day, and by now I almost manage a full Pure Platinum run on it! I have to get this game!
@FullbringIchigo It's just desparate whining because Bayonetta"isn't Nintendo".
I don't think I've seen a bad review of this game yet. So pleased I pre-ordered it. Hope Nintendo keeps the franchise running.
Does anyone knows if the retail version comes with a physical copy or a download code for the first Bayonetta?
@jariw As I didn't really notice much of a drop in frame rate with Hyrule Warriors, I probably won't notice any drop in B2 - thanks for the simple comparison, it really made it clear for me.
@Nimious a 10/10 genre game that people who never play that genre can really enjoy is a 10/10 game, whereas I would say one that only genre fans really enjoy mayeb shouldn't be considered a true 10/10.
I would say Left 4 Dead is a true 10/10 game, as the huge amount of people I know who can't stand shooters or horror games really enjoy L4D is staggering. Skyrim could be considered one, and possibly Mario 3D World.
If a perfect genre game has things that really turn of fans of other genres or even people who perefer other sub genres, then it's not as perfect as it could have been. The best example would be each new GTA that gets many 10/10s despite more cliched storytelling than wrestling.
@MadAdam81
I love Hyrule Warriors but the graphics and framerate do not come close to this game.
@Aran I think it depends on which version you buy standard, limited or collectors edition
@FullbringIchigo I would like to know what version of Bayonetta 1 Amazon are giving me. I was one of those who pre-ordered the 2 game edition when it was first made available, only for Amazon to then tell me it was a mistake but they'd still honour the 2 game purchase. If that makes sense?
Hype!!!
I'm starting to hate it how ever game in existence ends up being underrated these days. Not saying that Bayonetta 2 would be one, but i generally don't know what the heck would satisfy an average gamer anymore.
@FragRed yeah I got that e-mail too, that one is just the second game I cancelled it and ordered this one because it has both so I suggest you do the same (this is an Amazon UK link by the way)
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00NBPD4NG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1413197344&sr=8-1&pi=SL75
@c1pher_c0mplet what part of "nintendo funded and owns the game" do you still dont understand?
I've been closely following the development of Bayonetta 2 since just before E3, but wasn't convinced it was my kind of game. I was thinking about asking for it for Christmas or maybe just skipping it altogether. I downloaded the demo as soon as it was available, and within just a few minutes of playing, Bayonetta 2 transitioned from a title I was terribly unsure about to a game I couldn't wait to play. I immediately went out and bought the original and 2 is a high priority on my list. Play the demo. Just play it.
If this second party game won't convince gamers to get the Wii U, I don't know what will......
@FullbringIchigo I just checked, Amazon bumped my initial order up to the special edition containing both disc games but for the same price as the single edition
Yes!!!!!!!!
@FragRed Nice still £45 for two games is a pretty good deal
@FullbringIchigo That is true. I just hope it sells well enough, or that Nintendo sees a good future to keep the franchise going.
@FragRed yeah me too I would love more games in this series but even if there isn't I think we have damn good games anyway
Christ; this is getting a lot of 9s-10s
@BensonUii - Yeah I've just seen Gamespot's 10. One of the most anti-Nintendo sites out there given a Nintendo game a 10 is truly amazing.
Currently on Metacritic it's got 91 out of 31 reviews. Can't wait for this one.
@FullbringIchigo I know Platinum have said they want it to remain Nintendo exclusive, and Nintendo wants a series like this. But you are right, I think this game is gonna keep me entertained for many many weeks if not months.
@BensonUii EPIC Gif ha
@FragRed
Not mine. I found it on IGN comments section.
@BensonUii Thats where I was gonna post it too haha
Take note 3rd parties: THIS is how you make a game for Wii U!
@TwilightV But that would require, money, time and not sucking up to either Sony or Microsoft.
@c1pher_c0mplet The game's designer said that's the same thing as saying Zelda will eventually come to the other consoles. This game is owned by Nintendo
Sweet. I can't afford this now, so I'll probably ask for it for Christmas.
I'm really glad to see this is getting good scores. I haven't played the original, but it's obvious the developer took great care in making this game. I'm buying it and look forward to experiencing it, if for no other reason than supporting a developer that obviously cares about what he's doing. And.. it looks pretty fantastic.
@BensonUii Lol, epic gif.
Hey you know this game I had doubts about the game, but I was wrong. IGN gave it a 9.5 which is a surprise!! I haven't read the review for Gamespot, but I see there's a gif. showing Gamespot's score. You know its funny on how some people like "Reviewtechusa" has stated that the game wouldn't do good in reviews or basically because its on "Nintendo". Nonetheless this is really exciting hearing about this!!!
About Bayonetta 2 being exclusive forever seem unlikely. I remember when Resident Evil 4 was a Gamecube exclusive. The producer Shinji Mikami said "I rather die than see RE4 on another console". And we all know how that turned out.
Nintendo fans have a habit of ignoring 3rd party games or anything without Mario, Link, or Pokemon on the cover. They constantly bemoan 3rd parties for "not making the game good to sell to us" or not pandering to their stark anti-3rd party mindset. This is their time to put their money where their mouth is, as Bayonetta is clearly delivering on all fronts.
If Nintendo fans don't want to support a 3rd party title of this caliber, this quality, and this dedication, then they don't even deserve to have Nintendo consoles in the first place.
Nintendo fans have received a few strong 3rd party titles, some general 3rd party support, and some poor (but only Nintendo fans seem to take personal offense to a poor port), but have ultimately kept their wallets closed and driven off most non-Skylanders/Disney Infinity 3rd party games. Not supporting something of this level of dedication and quality may well prove that Nintendo fans truly care nothing about any game that isn't Mario-Zelda-Pokemon, and not supporting this will help guarantee that the Wii U limps it's way through this generation with a library that never excels past this current peak.
I thougt there was local co-op. When did I miss that information? Oh well, Platinum Games single player campaigns are always so epic so it doesn't really matter. Can't believe it's a little over week until it's released.
@Quorthon
I don't know too many Wii U owners, but my friend who has one rather plays 3rd party games on the most powerful platform, PC. Sure, there are some good 3rd party titles on Wii U (I have more 3rd party games than on any other Nintendo console before) but most people buy Nintendo games for Nintendo consoles simply because theyŕe mostly better.
Cant wait. B2 was the reaon that for the first time ever, ive bought a nintendo console for primarily a non nintendo developed game. I also hope they dont make another one now, would rather she retired at the top of her game and not dilute her legend with unnecessary sequels.also donkey kongs 1,2 and 3 on vc, whoooooo!
@Grimlock_King
You're taking the most basic information and failing to apply it to the current situation. Nintendo didn't fund Resident Evil 4, Capcom did, and when it's sales weren't what it deserved on the GameCube, Capcom needed to take the game elsewhere.
Nintendo funded Bayonetta 2. Nintendo is publishing Bayonetta 2. It's not going anywhere.
The only thing that could happen here is for Nintendo fans to pull their usual excuse-making for not supporting the game, killing any possibility of a sequel, or driving any potential for Bayonetta 3 to a multiplatform/non-Wii U release. Dear Nintendo fans, instead of making the usual excuses too many of you like to drum up for not supporting any game without Mario, Zelda, or Pokemon, how about you climb out from under the security blanket just once, and support the hell out of a game that truly deserves it?
@TwilightV
Several third parties did just that and got nothing from Nintendo fans. ZombiU was a carefully crafted exclusive and is still one of the best uses of the GamePad, but Nintendo fans ignored it enough that Ubisoft lost confidence.
Are you saying Rayman Legends didn't go out of its way to sell, or are you butthurt that it went multiplatform while STILL delivering one of the most impressive and solid experiences on the console? You know, had Nintendo fans merely supported the Wii U with the fervor they do ANY POKEMON GAME, Ubisoft wouldn't have panicked about the game making money to take it multiplatform.
By the way, the previous Platinum game, Wonderful 101 was also an exclusive, and heavily catered to the Wii U, loaded with unique and fun gameplay, but Nintendo fans ignored that as well.
Warner Bros didn't yank Batman DLC to be spiteful, it's because Warner Bros TRIED to give Nintendo fans a full package with Injustice and Arkham City, but where IGNORED. Injustice played beautifully on the Wii U and even received DLC, right up until Nintendo fans decided to keep ignoring it.
The two Call of Duty games are STILL the best, deepest, and most extensive online games on the Wii U. Had you guys bought these games, the DLC would've been released, had you supported that, the Wii U would be getting Advanced Warfare, which looks to be a breath of fresh air for the franchise.
Would you like me to go on? Because you can sit there and blame third parties all you want, but you're getting it wrong. Even when they do put in the effort, even when third parties do deliver the goods, Nintendo fans turn their backs, even if there's almost literally nothing else to play.
Third parties are not the problem here. Nintendo and the fans are the problem.
These extensive blogs illustrate it pretty well: http://overdeepgeek.wordpress.com/2014/10/02/the-vicious-cycle-of-a-nintendo-console-part-2-of-2/
@Grimlock_King
Sega has the copywrite on the Bayonetta character but Bayonetta 2 is copywrited by Nintendo. So the only way it could appear on another system is if Nintendo put it on them. Bayonetta 3 could appear on another system though.
Great review. Just last night, I informed a PS3-owning friend of mine that this game was coming exclusively to Wii U this month, and he was, for the first time, considering the prospect of getting Nintendo's new console. I rather value his opinion on games, so that got me more excited about this one.
I do have a nitpick, however:
"a rare arrival on the system that's unashamedly violent, gory and mature"
'Mature' is the last word I'd use to describe a game like this, at least judging from the several descriptions I've read. Yeah, yeah, I know that's industry euphemism for 'violent', but I hate it all the same.
Cool, it's great to hear so many reviewers enjoyed the game & some even gave it a perfect ten but sadly this game is just not for me. The gore is what stops me from buying this or Bayonetta 1, it's just too much for me. I hope all those this type of game appeals to enjoy it though.
Nintendo rulez, dominates and all that. Can't wait to play this game. I'm not even downloading the demo since I'm going to play 1 and then 2 when it comes out.
So hyped for this game!!And i'm happy reviewers love this game.
The day my mom allows me to buy mature games will be the day I'll be buying this, there's no way I'll be missing out on this even if I'll have to wait 2 years to play this amazing game. I hope Bayonetta 2 does well.
@Quorthon - A lot of your arguments are massively flawed.
ZombiU was released at the beginning, was quite rubbish and buggy with mediocre reviews. So what if it made good use of the gamepad, no one knew that at the time. Why should gamers buy a mediocre buggy game?
The sales of Rayman Legends were pitiful on all consoles, yet it had the best attach rate on the Wii U.
Saying that Nintendo fans only care about Nintendo games could also be said about PS and Xbox fans only buying the top franchises on their consoles, GTA, COD, FIFA etc.
An then there's the original Bayonetta. It didn't sell that well on either PS3 or Xbox. I guarantee that B2 gets a vastly superior attach rate on the Wii U.
...and finally. Using a dire series like COD, which reviewed badly with its last outing, really shows you haven't got a clue about gaming.
Now...would YOU like me to go on showing you up!!
Hopefully this sells well. The original Bayonetta was one of the few action games I genuinely loved on my 360.
"even though you'll be attacking and dodging with lightening fast button presses"
You meant lightning, not lightening:
lightening (ˈlaɪtənɪŋ)
n
1. (Gynaecology & Obstetrics) obstetrics the sensation, experienced by many women late in pregnancy when the head of the fetus enters the pelvis, of a reduction in pressure on the diaphragm, making it easier to breathe.
Now, everyone... please go and read the Polygon review and prepare to feel very angry afterward.
@c1pher_c0mplet but it's not a timed exclusive. the source code is owned by ninty. the would have to want it to be multplatform and i highly doubt nintendo wants that.
I played the demo and I like it more than W101.The control of B2 is tighter, and the drawing mechanism is gone.
By the way, why is Sega involved in this game?
I never really notice framerate drop. How can people notice it with a bare eye?
@Grimlock_King that was diffrent. that was an exclusive contact between capcom and nintendo but capcom owned the source code. nintendo owns the source code for bayo 2. it will not see another platfom this gen.
Yep... One of the main reasons why I got a Wii U after E3. So happy to have gotten the console because the demo is so fun, and I can't wait for the whole game. Two games in one, I can't lose.
@BensonUii Hahaha... PERFECT!!!!!
Attention - Attention. This is a public service announcement... BUY BAYONETTA... that is all.
Just for kicks I browsed the comments over at IGN cause they gave it a 9.5/10. It's a bloodbath over there, with jealously pushed to the forefront. It's the equivalent of a middle school locker room after gym class. I'm happy sites like NL exist so that we can have more intelligent conversations.
I'm so happy to see this game getting overwhelming praise. Looks like I got something to ask for during Xmas.
@GreatPlayer
The original Bayonetta was developed by Platinum as part of a series of games for Sega (along with MadWorld), so Sega has the copywrite on the character. Nintendo just owns the rights for Bayonetta 2.
@BensonUii
I came a little late to this party, but yes I am pleased. As in
Now, I am not surprised for Bayonetta 2's ability to get great scores, but for reviewers actually giving out 10s to a Japanese game exclusive to a Nintendo console.
The quality is there, the value is there, the reviews are there, the demo is there. What is missing now is advertising and the silent majority joining the vocal minority in supporting this.
I was kind of hoping this wouldn't be as good as it is. I'm going to be sooooo poor with Smash, Pokemon, Persona Q, etc... on the way.
@ThomasBW84
Great review!! I can't wait to pick this up. Wii U Game of the Year contender??
Downloaded the demo, haven't checked it out yet because of Smash, which I can never seem to put down. Honestly, descriptions of the game sound so insane I wonder if my old school gamer sensibilities can even handle it. I struggle with the insanity of Wonderful 101 (which I love, but which sometimes gets a little too over-the-top with its button mashing and gratuitous sex references in what otherwise feels like a children's cartoonish universe). I generally tend to gravitate toward simpler, calmer games.
Still, I'll try the demo and see if it appeals to me. Do franchise fans tend to believe the demo is a good example of the game?
cant wait
Advice to Nintendo UK / Europe / US
With a 3rd party game of this caliber getting the best reviews and praise of any game since released - ADVERTISING - PRIME TIME ADVERTISING - use this to your advantage and sell more consoles.
I've yet to see one advert on UK prime time TV even when MarioKart was released. Let's not waist an opportunity.
@yuwarite Haha, I just did, that guy is way to politically correct... It's a game, it's the way the director wanted the game... I like the perverse sexualized content...
the game itself looks sick but i can't stand the main character
Nice review! Cant wait to play with foxy Bayonetta.
@Discostew
Are you sure about that?
how do you know?
Wii U's library isn't small to me
Opening day purchase for me! Really glad the Nintendo partnership with Platinum Games paid off with this great game
@c1pher_c0mplet It's not up to Platinum. It's up to Nintendo. Even Kamiya himself said, and I'm paraphrasing here, "it'll go multiplat when Nintendo says so, which will be right around the time they put Mario on Playstation"
Read it for yourself, last paragraph of Kamiya's statement:
http://nintendoeverything.com/kamiya-again-comments-on-bayonetta-2s-initially-troubled-fate-and-how-nintendo-saved-the-game/
This game is never leaving the Wii U.
@Grimlock_King Ya but Nintendo didn't fund and own rights to Resident Evil 4. That wasn't Nintendo's decision. Which is the opposite of Bayonetta 2, where Nintendo is the one who decides. The developer himself has stated it's Nintendo's decision. Not sure how much more clear it can get.
@Quorthon
CaptainToad summed it up nicely. Also, I bought Arkham City and The Wonderful 101 at full price, so take your lame "butthurt Nintendo fanboy" logic and shove it.
The demo blew me away. I don't know if my senses can take the full game but I'll definitely be picking this up!
@mh1989 why not?
Possible GOTY?
Won't be ignored by me!
Thank you Nintendo! Thank you Platinum!
@TwilightV
You need to realize that your single-person anecdote means absolutely nothing compared to the actual, wider sales numbers. You getting offended does not change the fact that Nintendo fans simply buy games differently, treat third parties worse, and get personally offended when they get gimped ports because they told the third parties, in so many words and actions, that to take their business elsewhere.
You being offended does not make me wrong. It merely makes you offended.
I own a multitude of 3rd party titles on all my Nintendo platforms, but then, I've been playing game since before Nintendo was treated strangely differently--I buy game consoles to play games. Not just Mario or Zelda. I didn't buy my PS3 just to play a small library of exclusives and nothing else.
@GreatPlayer
Sega published Bayonetta 1, but passed on Bayonetta 2. Sega has a say in the franchise and the first title, specifically.
@Quorthon
And in typical fashion, you twist words around like you're the only person in the world who's right about anything. Who's offended, now?
@CaptainToad
"A lot of your arguments are massively flawed."
Actually, they're quite thoughtful and well-informed. The blog I linked even has another article showing that, indeed, Nintendo fans seemingly deliberately treat third parties differently, as sales on the GameCube, when multiplatform titles were very much equal on all platforms, were noticeably lower for the GameCube.
"ZombiU was released at the beginning, was quite rubbish and buggy with mediocre reviews. So what if it made good use of the gamepad, no one knew that at the time. Why should gamers buy a mediocre buggy game?"
ZombiU is higher rated than way-buggier Dead Island, which sold far better than ZombiU. Bethesda games are buggy all the time, as are CoD and GTA games, but people still buy them. What does buggy have to do with anything, outside of just making excuses that you, no doubt, forgive when Nintendo does them?
"The sales of Rayman Legends were pitiful on all consoles, yet it had the best attach rate on the Wii U."
Now THIS is a great faulty argument. Attach rate? Not bad, but then, when there are only 7 million Wii U's sold compared to 80 million PS3's, your argument falls apart pretty badly. It sold poorly, but was evidence that it was right for Ubisoft to remove exclusivity--as it has higher numbers on the PS3.
"Saying that Nintendo fans only care about Nintendo games could also be said about PS and Xbox fans only buying the top franchises on their consoles, GTA, COD, FIFA etc."
You don't even have an argument here. The point is that Nintendo fans IGNORE top franchises if they're made by anyone other than Nintendo. You've actually done well to prove MY POINT, which was that on any other platform, 1st and 3rd party games are treated largely equally among gamers. Only on Nintendo platforms are third parties treated worse, ignored, or have to struggle for attention compared to even the lowest-rated Nintendo fare. Even Wii Music sold 2 million copies. WII MUSIC.
"An then there's the original Bayonetta. It didn't sell that well on either PS3 or Xbox. I guarantee that B2 gets a vastly superior attach rate on the Wii U.
...and finally. Using a dire series like COD, which reviewed badly with its last outing, really shows you haven't got a clue about gaming.
Now...would YOU like me to go on showing you up!!"
Attach rates are not indicative of sales success. Sales numbers are. Shenmue had pretty good attach rates on the Dreamcast, and still lost something like 40 million dollars.
You're biggest failure was to assume you "showed me up" by making faulty arguments, focusing on silly notions of "attach rates" instead of actual numbers, and prancing around with an ego rather than facts or a proper analysis.
I made a point that Nintendo fans do not support third parties, and I provided evidence to this, and even blog posts that back it up. You have provided nothing to support your arguments, and "attach rates" mean very little. Selling to 50% of the people on a console with only 7 million owners is less impressive than selling to 10% to of the audience on a console with 80 million in sales.
@TwilightV
Oh? Which words have I twisted?
Typical fashion? You say that as if you know me in any way, which seems nearly impossible since I have fewer than 20 or so posts on this site, and you have never actually spoken to me.
soo far the lowest mark from all reviews is nintendolife.
ign 9.5 is 2nd lowest.
All others is 10/10
@Quorthon
Funny, you seem to act as if you know me with that large wall of text you dropped on me. But this is not the time or place to be discussing things, so I won't. I'm not responding again.
@TwilightV
No, if I acted as I knew you, I'd have made specific points directed at you. I only commented on your point, not you, not your behavior, and nothing personal about you as an individual.
Indeed, the only things I have actually said about you, are that I have not spoken about you. Unless you're noting that I (likely accurately) interpreted your post as you being offended, but then, I cannot really fathom another emotional outburst that equates to "oh yeah, well my personal anecdote disagrees with your wider point, so shove it." That certainly isn't happiness or agreement. That would be offense.
And again, that was not about you, but about the content of your post.
@Luffy
http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/bayonetta-2/critic-reviews
GameRevolution is the lowest.
You better advertise this bad boy Nintendo..... Reviews of 9's and 10's on websites can only do so much on a game such as Bayonetta.
#OperationPlatinum
This game has done the business with the demo (I enjoyed it more than the W101 demo) and also done the business with it's reviews.
I have this on preorder can't wait, but Bayonetta 2 does deserve to sell and sell well. Whether the majority of Nintendo fans will buy into this franchise remains to be seen.
I knew this was gonna be good. Its too bad its not my cup of tea.
@c1pher_c0mplet
"As I have said earlier, if you want Bayonetta 2 on PS4 or Xbox One, how about trying to ask Nintendo… If Nintendo doesn’t say yes, it’s not going to happen… While you’re at it, try asking for Mario and Zelda too…” -Kayima
The fact Kayima, director of platinum, equated the probability of it getting ported equal to seeing a Mario or Zelda game get ported, is more than enough to just accept it is on the Wii U to stay. That an Nintendo published it, and considering the publisher decides the platforms of release, there is no way there are giving away a game they singlehandedly funded.
@ LDXD Don't get it twisted. The only thing I am waiting for is October 24 because my Bayonetta 2 copy is paid in full. I 've owned my Wii U since the day it released. See now where your assumption backfired?
Guys, @c1pher_c0mplet already got the message.
@BensonUii haha that GIF so me today!
@Quorthon Either way It won't affect me because my copy of Bayonetta 2 is paid in full. I supported Zombie U on day one and enjoyed it. With Bayonetta 2 it's only going to be better. And I'm not new to the franchise when so many slept on Bayonetta 1 i did not.
Is it October 24th yet? I pre-ordered this before pre-ordering SSB WiiU and now all i need is the Bayo2 soundtrack and my xmas shopping is complete!!!
@BensonUii that gif is hysterical!!!
I'm buying it. Now for the confusing getting-the-first one for real cheap promotion: any way to buy this digitally and still get a great deal on part 1?
Or are digital only purchasers screwed over? I'm talking europe, by the way...
@marko Check the IGN links on these comments.
Maybe some more people should reply to @c1pher_c0mplet. I'm not sure if he he has understood yet.
@c1pher_c0mplet you know platinum said it wont happening without nintendo saying Yes. Nintendo loved the WHOLE project, they didn't just buy exclusivity.
Watch the profanity — TBD
@c1pher_c0mplet The truth to the reality that it's NOT GONNA HAPPEN. Nintendo will never lose this exclusivity... especially from a game that was supposed to be cancelled. Sony, Microsoft, Ubisosoft, Activision, etc. have already said no. That was two years ago. Bayonetta 2 would not exist as well as the franchise without Nintendo white knighting the project that Platinum Games have destined to make. Right now, they're proving everybody wrong that there is a place for Wii U to have third party games. Look at all the perfect 10 this game have earned. A lot of European, American, and Canadian Wii U owners have pre-ordered it and I'm sure those who have external drives will be more than happy to digitally download both Bayonetta HD and 2 at the strike of 12 midnight.
@BensonUii I er um must give you a +9 for that gif.
@erv
Bayo1 costs 30€ in the eShop, 10€ if you have Bayo2 eShop. Bayo2 costs 50€ and only 30€ if you have Bayo1 eShop. In short, you pay 60€ if you buy both regardless which you buy first.
Of course, Amazon (France) I think is selling it (Bayo 1&2) 10€ less with their own promo. Suggested retail price is 60€ but they are selling it for 50€.
I lean more towards 10/10, meself.
@Ryno Your wish has been granted, the eternal dragon signing off.
@Captain_Toad Maybe just two more?
The reviews has been CRAZY, cant wait for it !
@c1pher_c0mplet
Don't listen to what everyone is saying they're clearly don't understand how IP ownership works. IP ownership overrides "supposed ownership."
@Quorthon
Certain points are spot on, you just phrased it aggressively.
The demo actually convinced me how good this game is but im not ready to drop 65$ on it...
@Sugar_Crunch_BD Just to let you know, before a mod edits it… you misspelled funded.
Edit: Ahhh never mind, too late.
@MadAdam81 Enjoyment is subjective and should be minimized when judging games on their level of perfection. Fulfilling criteria i.e the genre is the most reasonable objective way to score a series. If the game itself can appeal to people unfamiliar to the genre that's great but that should never be part of the criteria to score the game itself. After all perfection is not based on how much you like something but rather how complete it is.
Needs more Waluigi

@Nimious Removing stuff to make it have less variety cannot be perfect. (One of the best parts I have played of the first was that motorbike bit).
@Kaze_Memaryu, i know this has nothing to do with Bayonetta, but might i ask who the character on your profile pic is?
May get it for christmas, the reviews have been amazing!
@c1pher_c0mplet Its not up to Platinum Games where the game goes. They stroke a deal with Nintendo paying for the development (literally 10's of millions of dollars worth of development, as designing AAA games is really expensive), plus you have Nintendo paying for the port of part 1, and then on top of that, Nintendo paying for the production, distribution of the game.
Nintendo is laying down some serious cash to get this game on the Wii U. There is exactly .00000000001% chance Nintendo will let this game off of their system, ever. Just not happening. Platinum Games can't port it anywhere unless Nintendo gives permission, and Nintendo wants more exclusives to sell more Wii U. Letting this one go would be detrimental to that end and a collossal waste of money.
Do you really think Nintendo would spend $50+ million dollars for a title just to let it go to their competitors? Common sense says never in a million years.... the only situation I see it movign to another system is if Microsoft or Sony outright buys Nintendo, which probably couldn't happen as Sony is STILL having severe money problems and Microsoft is still waffling on jettisoning the xBox division.
@Punished_Boss You don't understand how IP ownership works.... Sega holds the rights to Bayonetta as a franchise, but NIntendo holds the rights to Bayonetta 2 as a game. Sega can't put the game anywhere but on a Nintendo system. Nintendo would have never in a million years agreed to outright paying for the development (upwards of $50 mil) of this game..... Just not happening.
@Dipper723
OK, Platinum Games' next Wii U game shall be a Waluigi action game. 101/100, best game ever and so on. Can't wait for that.
I tried the free demo yesterday. While it seems put together well, its not for me. Rather play turtles in time or the simpsons. Wouldnt give it a 9. More like a 6-7. .02
@unrandomsam I never said anything about removing things. In fact I was talking about perfection and completion of a game.
@c1pher_c0mplet Nintendo funded the game. It is the publisher. So it will be Nintendo's decision to do so... in other words, would never happen. It would be like publishing a Zelda or Mario on PlayStation or Xbox.
Before I clicked on this article, I told myself that Nintendo Life's score would be 9/10.
Lol, predictable. They never give out 10/10's. This game deserves a 10/10.
Are the sexaul moments just teases?
@abbyhitter https://www.nintendolife.com/games?region=usa&sort=rating
@Nimious Cannot have perfection without variety. Gets boring. They removed the most of the variety that the first game had.
@unrandomsam And that "variety" being?
Western WiiU owners, please buy this game so we can continue to get good third party support on Nintendo consoles!
Not my cup of tea but I'm glad it's getting good reviews for the people who wants the game. The Wii U needs every strong title it can get. Now if they would only stop being stupid and localize the new Fatal Frame I'd be happy.
According to Amazon.com's pre-order sales, Bayonetta 2 is now at #2 (originally at #7). And believe it or not, it went up to over 600%!
@LDXD yeah i can. I played all i needed to see. It wasn't a very great game in my opinion.
Nice review and nice score!
@Nimious Stuff like that Motorbike Race. It also has QTE's which add absolutely nothing and involve mashing buttons. It is not perfect by a long shot.
@LDXD its not much different than real time rpgs or any other non turn based fighting game. I just finished shadow of mordor. Liked that a lot. Its not that i dont like free range battle. I just thought the game wasnt great. I finished what they had to offer in the demo. Deleted it and wished i hadnt bothered. I didnt think i was going to like it. I was right.
Just because i have an different opinion than a lot of the people on this topic doesnt mean i have to like every game like this. I like fps but i dont enjoy every fps. I would urinate on destiny if it was a person on fire. Im sure im going to like hyrule warriors. Catch my drift?
@unrandomsam lol.
Sorry there's just been so much wrong and inconsistent with what you're saying that I can't take you seriously.
Just so you know you said the game wasn't perfect because they removed the "variety" out. When I asked you about said "variety" you tell me it's stuff like the Motorbike Race. Aside from that being wrong, had your statement been true you would've managed to contradict yourself as the removal of what you consider as a pointless event is obviously a positive...
Right, thanks for your ugh...insight.
@Nimious lol
@unrandomsam This game's Star Fox sequence is an example of variety, no?
Just came back and saw @c1pher_c0mplet get destroyed by facts about Nintendo not going to let the game be released for the other systems. Okay guys calm down i think he got the picture.Sometimes you guys go overboard on this type of stuff.I think one person telling him is enough,not a group of people at once.
@midnafanboy Completely agree with you, but that is what you get when people "forget" to read all the comments and just skip them to answer the one that they feel the need to correct. Unfortunately this happens way too often...
@Quorthon Oh calm the frek down! Nintendo users, like MS users and Sony users will buy the games they want. They are not going to buy a game just "because". That's absurd.
This kind of diatribes are getting old and stupid. Knock it off.
@3DiddyKong That's Esmyrelda from the upcoming Cryamore. Found it on the devlog, couldn't resist! ^_^
I'd get a game that appeals to me. I really couldn't care less who made it...unless that developer that made games I like.
@midnafanboy Yeah, I got the point. Didn't know I was potentially starting a flame war o_O. While I'm generally up on gaming, I don't profess to know EVERY SINGLE DETAIL of EVERY SINGLE GAME, including Bayonetta 2 (which honestly hasn't been on my radar, mostly cuz I don't have a Wii U and probably won't for a looong time). And if @Dazza hadn't corrected me, I probably wouldn't have known (or would have a lot later when it didn't matter anymore). I obviously missed some news on the subject, was wrong (like no one else here hasn't been), and got corrected. I didn't know it was that big a deal. People online, man... It's been funny watching a lot of NL users foam at the mouth about something that was squashed waaay back in the timeline, though lol XD
well W101 was pretty awesome as far as the demo goes so I'm hoping this game is similar, but with less silly cartoonish stuff. Just worried about the oversexualization of the main character....considering that Isn't a push for me to buy the game as I don't swing that way.
@ricklongo haha I actually had a comment about tbis but resolved that its called mature because it requires a mature person to decide if they want this kind of immature content to polute their lives. A teen or child wouldnt know how this affects them.
@BensonUii whoa thanks, you just explained this better than nintendo did lol!
So, we're getting both for a great price in total, which is great!
@erv
Welcome!
@c1pher_c0mplet @midnafanboy
Edit button is a powerful tool. but yeah, it's funny watching the endless replies.
W00T!
Looked good, and now the game looks amazing. I can't still believe that Gamespot gave this game a 10, that too after 4 years! The last game was SMG2.
Can't wait to get this game. Now it is definitely a must buy for action game fans!
@c1pher_c0mplet : They were only able to make it with Nintendo and noone else.
Platinum cared more about being able to make it, and for it to not exist at all.
Nintendo also have final word, so it cant be ported.
While many websites advocated for the Wii U during PS4 and XB1's early months, claiming 'games over names' in another obvious shot at the Wii U's branding, it's not too reasonable for those same critics to do the same going into 2015.
In fact, aside from Smash (a niche game, let's be honest), Hyrule Warriors (a Dynasty Warriors clone and not a very good one) and Mario Kart 8 (a racing title and not the realistic kind that sells) there's roughly a fifth of the titles as other systems.
The incentive to buy a Wii U is low and it's unlikely Smash is going to change that for many holdouts.
Which is why Bayonetta 2 is PERFECT for Wii U.
It's the critically applauded, mature content spilling, sequel to a game no one purchased. Demanded by thousands of rabid fans on other systems, it's just fodder for the question: why doesn't Nintendo give up the ghost and go third party?
I, personally, would hate the idea. But for as much money as Nintendo made with Wii, they seem to be losing with Wii U.
More and more, this looks like Nintendo's last home console run.
Which is funny, as Sony and Microsoft painted themselves into a corner with their overly PC hardware while only Nintendo left a door open.
I guess playing it safe at the end should cost them, but I still want and hope Nintendo can prove me wrong.
For Iwata's sake. So Zelda and other games aren't cancelled.
@element187 @LDXD Sure if you say so, even though countless of similar examples have debunked that but no sure not happening.
I'm going to be that guy and say that I can't get over the embarrassingly puerile design and camera work on the main character. There's sexy. There's tongue in cheek over the top and then there's crude-bordering-on-obscene. Wasn't this the space snubbing GTAV for featuring a strip club? In B2, the strip club is the game it seems. (and no, that's the opposite of 'mature')
@BensonUii haaaaahahaha! Vince McMohan has convinced me, day one purchase.
@c1pher_c0mplet Heh, we're such a weird bunch aren't we?
@c1pher_c0mplet Platinum don't get to choose whether or not it goes to another system, Nintendo does. Nintendo holds the publishing rights, which means it cannot go on another system unless Nintendo allows it. Think of it like a book. Platinum is the author and Nintendo is the publisher.
@Captain_Toad I'm tempted to just post a comment saying, “c1pher_c0mplet has gotten the message,” whenever a new comment comes in. That might alleviate things.
Nah, waste of server space. But so are all these redundant replies!
They really should've put Bayonetta in smash bros. Just sayin.
The true successor for early true DMC games. Day 1 for me.
I didnt like the first bayonetta yawns at the hype
@BensonUii that was legit how i looked when i saw this game
@unrandomsam Well, I don't think it's small. I've got enough to keep me going for quite some time yet.
@CTs_Lieutenant Gamespot do love Platinum Games though. Still, you'd usually think that a Nintendo association would at least drop it by 1 or 2 points out of 10 lol
Bayonetta 2 or Hyrule Warriors?
@yuwarite I dunno, seemed like a pretty good review to me. Pretty much exactly how I felt. Fun, amazingly well made game, that I had a total blast playing.... that is until all the same points he/she pointed out. But then, I just don't like sexual stuff. Fanservice like that literally makes me feel sick. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing that it's in the game, to each their own. I just mean to say it /literally/ makes me feel sick. I feel like someones hand has phased thru my stomach, grabbed a handful of my organs, and is oh so slowly twisting them in a way that isn't exactly painful, but OH SO HORRIBLY AND GUT WRENCHINGLY UNCOMFORTABLE TO THE POINT I PHYSICALLY FEEL LIKE I AM GOING TO BE SICK. Like that feeling you get when you are really really high up.... like on a bridge or a rooftop.... and you start to lean out over the edge and look down and you feel like at any moment something horrible is going to happen to cause you to fall off the edge and you get that same exact feeling in the pit of your stomach.... or maybe that's just a me thing.... what was i talking about again this turned out being way longer than i planned it being.
Had to work the last 4 days, so I'm finally playing the games now...so far so good, but I'm confused: in the combos, what does the dot symbolize? Pause? Jump? Hold down the next button? (example: Punch, Punch (dot) Punch). Help me. lol
@DaemonSword Dot is a pause. I recommend practice mode so you can get the timing down.
Finished the main story last night on normal. Game of the year for me so far.
Best action game on the U,im playing it the now chapter 3 is far enough the night.
A showcase title for the Wii-U! Throw in the original Bayonetta and you also have one of the best value propositions on Wii-U!
@jakysnakydx Sega commissioned Platinum to make the sequal for bkth Xbkx ONE and PS4. About a tnird of the way through, Sega realised they did not have the funds to complete the game and publish jt, so told Platinum to cancel the project. Platinum are STILL waiting to be paid from Sega, fkr the work they actually did.
Nintendo saw this, and jumped in. They asked Platinum if they would be prepared to create the sequal as an exclsjve for the Wii U, if Nintendo paid the development costs and published the title. Platinum obviously said yes, and also offered to do a Wii U version of the original.
The lead guy at Platinum has said on more than three occasions that I know of to both Xbox and Sony fans, 'If you think Bayonetta 2 will be coming to your system(s), you might as well ask Nintendo to put Mario and Zelda onto your consoles. It is simply not going to happen, I cannot say it any other way. If it were not for Nintendo, Bayonetta 2 WOULD NOT EXIST'.
So, that is the story behind Bayonetta 2. If either Sony or Microsoft wanted it on their respective systems, they would have to do 2 things. Firstly, approach Nintendo with a cash offer, asking for the game to be allowed on their systems. Secondly, they would have to pay Platinum to create the game, and pay to publish the game also. Neither of these is going to happen.
Platinum have openly come out and said they are happy with the sales figures of Bayonetta 2, and are hoping to work on something to do with Bayonetta this year. As they had NO outlay costs, all copies sold was pure income.
@SahashraLA Actually, if you take fhe time to a little research, you would know the Wii U is the ONLY console at the moment that is actually making money with every unit sold. Microsoft having lowered their price THREE times in its first year had never been done. It was not done because of massive sales, but out of necessity.
Also, Nintendo has already stated it will be releasing another home console. It will probably be around mid to end of 2017, as Nintendo home consoles usually have a 5 year life period. Everyone said the 3DS was DOOMED, and Nintendo had made a massive mistake that would haunt them for years. Now, we have the 3DS and the new 3DS family, which is fast becoming the best selling hand-held of all time. If any company can turn their fortunes around, it is Nintendo. It is not like they are in any kind of financial problems, as they have billions of U.S. dollors just sitting in the bank. Nintendo behave just as their name says, 'LEAVE LUCK TO THE GODS', rough translation.
@antdickens @Dazza @Damo @ThomasBW84 @JonWahlgren @MitchVogel Hello. This is in relation to my account @SLIGEACH_EIRE which has been banned. I've no idea why. There were no warnings. I've not been abusive or used foul language. I like to think I'm a good member and send in news stories to the site on a near daily basis. Just it's been banned for the past week. I've sent dozens of messages through the contact form but have got no reply so I've now had to sign up with an alternate account to try and contact you about it. Why has my account been banned? I've put the comment here so it's not a distraction on the main stories.
Gen hope they re-release both games again in a Switch bundle!
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