When Nintendo confirmed a free copy of Bayonetta with retail copies of upcoming Wii U exclusive Bayonetta 2, excitement quickly turned to some confusion. A poorly worded footnote on the official website suggested that eShop copies of the sequel would not include the first game, before an official Facebook Q & A then clarified to say that the first game would be available as a download with both retail and eShop versions of the new title. That confirmed the obvious, too, that the first game will be available as a separate product on the eShop, too.
What we sometimes forget during E3, of course, is that some announcements are global but, often, details are specific to North America. So there are two updates regarding this promotion — let's start with North America. The official game website has now been updated with the following text:
Bayonetta will be included with the purchase of every packaged version of Bayonetta 2. Nintendo eShop purchases of either Bayonetta or Bayonetta 2 will include an automatic discount on your purchase of the other game.
That points to a simple deal, though let's not 100% assume that the eShop automatic discount will mean Bayonetta turns out to be 'free', though we'd hope that's the case.
Due to that vagueness we've been in touch with Nintendo UK to understand the European picture, and it's actually been confirmed that there'll be two different physical retail offerings in the region, as opposed to the one option confirmed for North America. There will be a version without the first game, and another with both titles on separate discs, within the same packaging. As for the eShop, rather than the discount promised in North America, there's simply no announcement on details for Europe as yet. A summary of the three options is below, via Nintendo UK:
1) Bayonetta 2 solus
2) Bayonetta 1 + Bayonetta 2 (2 discs in one packaging)
3) The digital versions available in the Nintendo eShop in Europe will be sold separatelyNo additional announcements have been made at this time
We're looking at different offerings in each region, then. European gamers shouldn't despair as yet, as there's still time for promotions to be factored into the eShop. There are past examples of the Wii U download stores of Europe and North America having separate deals, such as a 2013 European deal for 30% off The Wonderful 101 for those that bought Pikmin 3 digitally.
As it stands — things can change — the North American options sound marginally better in terms of value, though like Japanese gamers Europeans will be able to own both games as separate discs. This Bayonetta / Bayonetta 2 promotion saga certainly hasn't been entirely simple, in any case.
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Im getting the disc version
2) Bayonetta 1 + Bayonetta 2 (2 discs in one packaging) YAY can't wait until October
This is confusing. They need to just clarify everything by making it the same everywhere.
@Prof_Clayton I agree.
Got to get my pre order on.
Still confusing. I'm getting the disc version, so hopefully this means I'll get Bayonetta 1 on disc along with it. E-Shop purchasers shouldn't be penalised either, so downloading one should mean the other is automatically free, not just 'discounted'....unless they're cheaper to begin with. More clarification needed here.
I'm willing to pay more for Bayonetta 1 + 2 physical discs so I'm happy thats an option in the UK.
Edit: Though I'm a tad confused right now.
I'm more confused than I ever was before. If they're trying to sell me Bayonetta on top of Bayonetta 2 on the eShop (instead of it being free like the physical version) then forget it, I'll think about buying the disc copy.
Yes, getting both games on disc! Don't need to worry about lack of space due to 32GB being very small
You mean the version I pre-ordered on Amazon isn't the one with the first game? I can't see any other version available to pre-order
Very confusing! I'm sure they'll clear this up way before release, but still strange they can send out such an unclear message to the press.
@Prof_Clayton lol I agree, I still try to figure out what the heck they are trying to say.
This doesn't really sound like free, though...
It's that they're always so late in finalising the special deals and available editions, that makes me delay preordering games for so long. Last time I jumped in too fast, I ended up paying way too much for the Zelda chest, that Nintendo itself then offered for… was it free?
How can I preorder Bayonetta 2, X, or even either Smash Bros, when it is all in major flux?
Double disc version for me, my money too you. I love when a plan comes together.
I'm very happy about this, I'll be going with the two disc version for sure!
@Tsurii897 Someone out there in Nintendo Europe must have heard my lamentations.
https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Wii-U/Bayonetta-2-765382.html#Special_Edition
Hope it's true, but I can't find anything specific about 2 discs in one packaging:
"Available from day one, discover a special edition package containing both Bayonetta 2 and the original Bayonetta, newly enhanced with Wii U exclusive content and features."
It's like they're trying to use the vaguest terms possible so as to ensure confusion.
O.o color me confused even more then the last time.
"2 discs in one packaging"
Hell Yeah!Screw retail downloads!
I'm guessing when eshop says discount they mean Bayonetta 1 is free with purchase of Bayonetta 2 or Bayonetta 2 discounted when purchasing the 1st cause I'm guessing Bayonetta 1 will be cheaper to start with
Honestly, they need to sort this up.
I bet there will be only 5 lucky copies worldwide with 2 discs. Find one and you can even visit the Platinum videoGames Factory.
@Gerbwmu exactly what I thought. Say Bayo 1 costs £20 and Bayo 2 £50, you get a £20 discount if you purchase either, so Bayo 1 becomes free.
It could perhaps suggest that Bayo 1 is releasing earlier on eShop? I'd rather wait for the disc version tbh.
@ThomasBW84 Haven't you heard about Philips winning the patent infringement case against Nintendo? Could have big consequences...
I better not have to get ******* physical to get the first one free.
Well that's good news.
I completely lost interest when I found out that the first game was just going to be an eShop download code, but if it's on a disc then I'm now tempted to pick this up.
Shame there's so many games coming out around the same time, not sure if I can afford it at launch.
DANG her proportions are crazy
@andreoni79 These Nintendo UK comments in the article are from today, so should be accurate; we were sure to clarify as far as possible, too.
Were like 4 months away from launch <.<, no point getting your panties in a twist.
yes! yeees!! YEEEEESSSS!!!! o this is a relief ... im soooo happy that bayonetta 1 will have a disc here in europe ^o^ now im even more excited for this game as i was before! <:
I noticed this at the end of the e3 presentation. It definitely said two editions at the time. I don't see the point of making a version without Bayo1 included unless it's nearly half the price. Can't wait for all the action games coming out soon. I just hope Nintendo follow it up with some RPGs and other genres!
It's official, I'm not going to assume anything about the game and offers until October. Everytime when I think I have it figured out, they tell me to turn left or turn right twice.
Having never played the first one, I'll be getting the physical copy for sure. I'm getting super pumped for this one!
Is NA getting the Discs or is it just JP and EU? JP and EU already had enough benefits over NA the past year, we don't need another offer exclusive to them over us.
... Above all Nintendo character costumes Bayo cosplays in....its the Varia suit she screws up.....which is worn by Samus. ZERO SAMUS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!
I hope Europe wont get screwed... Like if NA gets Bayo 1 for free and we dont!
Please Nintendo EU, don't ruin your winning streak
I'm still lost, I wish Nintendo would get it together.
I hope that we get the two-disc release here in Poland - I love my physical copies as they are. Still the whole thing is confusing at best and Nintendo clearly needs to step up their pr/release game.
http://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Wii-U/Bayonetta-2-765382.html#Special_Edition
It's definitely caused them problems that the games have different ratings. We'll have to watch how they price them. I wouldn't mind playing Bayonetta again with the costumes, but I'm not paying extra for it. I'll be happy with the solus if it's cheaper.
Really banking on the two-disc release here in America. I didn't like the first Bayonetta enough to accept being given an inferior deal, and I will pass on Bayonetta 2 if the physical version isn't announced.
still isn't 100% clear what's going on, especially in different regions. ideally it would be:
1) all bayonetta 2 copies to come with download code for the first (the message @ e3, everyone buying the second game gets the first one free)
2) special edition priced higher to include disc copy for the first game but no download code
as it stands it seems like the first is true for the US, whereas europeans will have to pay more but get a physical copy (i was down for this anyway). why not bundle a code with standard copies as to make the promotion all inclusive? this may be the case anyway, but it's poor communication.
I think European fans would be very angry if they don't get free Bayonetta 1
@FragRed I was thinking that so I cancelled it and will wait untill the 2 disc version is up
@Peach64 I'm with you. It started with a "Free Bayonetta inside" and it may ends with Bayonetta 2 for € 59 and Special Edition for € 69!!! In that case, I'll be ok with my old 360 version...
@JtotheY Thanks for the heads up, I've now posted an article on that.
This is somewhat confusing. Do the na physical purchases come with the original on disc or is it just an shop download code?
@ferthepoet I won't be that angry I just won't be buying either of them unless digital works like they said before with the first free. (Or if I do get it then it will be when the physical disk costs what it is worth to me which is almost nothing certainly nowhere near the digital price).
Was this originally planned or was it us having a moan that caused this?
Either way THANK YOU NINTENDO! I promise not to buy any competitor products for the rest of the year!!!
NA sounds pretty clear, it's what they promess at E3, it will be just a bit more confusing to do since going digital means to buy both games with discounts instead than get a download code.
Problem is tha I am in Europe and that's very unclear... biggest doubt regard digital and special edition prices. It almost sound like phisical will allow a better deal (even if sound strange considering past offers). I hope Nintendo will clarify soon.
We are all hyped and grateful for the double Bayonetta, but even the best parties require a clear invite ^o^;;;
Booooooooo!! If they're selling Bayonetta 2 seperate from a Bayonetta 1 + 2 disc pack in Europe that means the bundle of the two games will cost more than just Bayonetta 2 by itself. I was pumped for Bayonetta 1 + 2 digitally for the price of just Bayonetta 2 but now it seems like that's a pipe dream. Oh well. I really hope they offer some sort of discount for downloading both from the eShop as that's my preferred purchase method. I'll probably buy both anyway just to support the developers, even if Bayonetta seems a bit too violent for my tastes.
So really bayonetta 1 don't come free with Bayonetta 2. Damn now I am not sure if I should get bayonetta 2 on its own since I have the original on my xbox (unplayed yet) or get the two disc version.
ATM I am leaning more to just buying bayonetta 2 on its own just cause the two disc version will cost more. :/
A few weeks ago I (& probably a few other people) would have happily paid full price for a remastered version of the first game so I don't mind paying a little more than the price of bayo 2 to have them both on disc. Bayo 1 was my favourite game of the last generation
While I'm all for a worldwide standard with all three options, I'm already happy they made Bayonetta 2, added 1 as a bonus, added bonus content to 1, and gave Europe the option of a two disc set... Hell, if that didn't make me happy, I'd be a whining "dudebro" fanboy, or not even a gamer at all. Or I'd be SLIGHTLY less happy if I didn't live where a two disc set will be available.
So does the US get both games on disc? It is still very poorly worded.
So many mixed messages hopefully they stick to this recent announcement.
As for the 2 games packaged together as discs…YES!!!!! i understand most are moving towards digital downloads but im fighting it to the bitter end!!! Maybe im just old school but having the physical copy to me is like a trophy
Of course its confusing, they cant even do something as simple as give us a date.
Huzzah! No download silliness here!
All very confusing but I was always buying the disc version anyway so will get the double pack. No interest in messing the downloads.
Thanks Nintendo....
Now I have to get the disc version.
I want the disc for Bayonetta 1 but the DDP points will suffice.
Suddenly things got interesting...
Well, this is making the physical copy more appealing...
Mario in Bayonetta...
Well im confused, but im still getting it though.
Excellent, 2 disc version for me
Day one 2 disc edition for me, just now need to sort out a release date!
When you buy the physical release you get the free code for the first Bayonetta but on the eshop both can be bought separately. When you buy any one the other would be discounted permanently that is what they are trying to say
I am able to afford games by pre-ordering to get discounts. I pre-ordered this game in NA, because of the buy 1 get both scenario. If it turns out I only get a discount on the original, I will cancel that order and then since the order I made only gave me the discount for preordering 3 games, I will cancel the 2 more games. It may not be legitimate and I won't over react, but with the e3 video showing getting both games clearly on the box, I will feel like sloppiness has resulted in the customers like myself feeling the rules have changed.
Wat. I thought it was going to be simple. Bayonetta 2 + download code for Bayonetta = simple.
Bayonetta 2 day one, physical copy all the way.
@Shambo nobody who falls under the term "dudebro" would be buying Bayonetta in the first place. Or a Nintendo console for that matter.
Hmm I'm not sure where the assumption for a free Bayonetta is coming from. Nothing I've seen (and can remember!) anywhere mentions free.
Very happy to hear I can physical copies of both games on wii u
Separate discs??? YEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
I hope Nintendo releases Bayo1 on the eshop a few weeks before bayo2 comes out.... I'd like to play the first one again before diving into part 2.... And if they come out at the same time I might not be able to resist playing part 2 first.
So sell the first one on the eshop for $30 and it automatically gives you part two for $30 off... Effectively making two games for the price of one... Get on it Nintendo!!
Ah the joys of confusing translations mixed with the usual corporate miscommunication. Well as long as they sort it out by their release dates.
Better be 2 discs version in Canada
Disc version for me. I don't think my HD can survive two downloads. I made that mistake on my Vita with a digital purchase of FF X/X-2 HD lol
@placidcasual What? I'm happy you have money to waste, but please don't instigate these foulnesses. The Wii U doesn't need another 5 years old game at full price...
I'm-a be salty as hell if NA doesn't get the "two discs in one packaging deal," making us the only territory with that whole download code thing. We'll see; awaiting further clarification.
I really hope they release both games digitally in Europe as in the US.
Not a fan of physical media. However, if that's the way it's gotta be, then bring on the disc version.
Why they would add another physical version without Beyonetta 1 is really confusing though if it's all the same price.
This is pretty clear cut now
Australia dollars for an example
1) Bayonetta 2 = $79
2) Bayonetta 1 + 2 = 99
3) Digital Purchase, get 30% off either game when you purchase both digitally
The game was NEVER free, when did they say it was free?
@Tritonus
Nintendo are trying to sell the most copies they can, and are a bit blind in thinking if there is a 16 rated game without the 18 rated game, all the 16 year olds will buy the age appropriate one without Bayonetta 1. You can argue if Wondeful 101 was a 7 it would have sold to families more, but it's a naïve argument.
In reality, I doubt most shops will stock the solus version.
Just give both games at the price of US59.99 and stop the confusion. When consumers are confused they may decide not to buy the product. There is little extra cost of selling both games in one package. Also, the company needs to get their act together in order to reclaim its lost reputation as being a viable game company. The sales of W101was underwhelming.
Augh... All I want is both games on physical disk. I don't understand why the packaging has to be so different in the regions. If Nintendo wanted us to download retail games they would have launched Wii U with a larger hard drive without requiring a separate HDD purchase.
@Genesaur
I agree. I would rather have both in physical format.
Looks like nobody in NA who is smart and wants this game will be buying it on the eShop. Just paid off my physical pre-order!
Lol, If you go for download you'll only get a discount on the first title. While if you buy it at retail, you'll get the first title for free (and on a disc)! As it should be!!
@andreoni79 Just don't buy it then, I'm more than happy for you to have a different opinion.
My previous ruling stands. Either clarify that NA will also get a 2-disc offering, or I'm out. No reason not to if you're giving it to two other regions already.
But to be honest: Just release a 2 disc version only, and worldwide. And just make it one very big download for people that really want to download (I of course go for Retail, but there are people that just want download). That stops all the confusion!
@ToxieDogg
Same here.
An idea: what if they sell the retail Bayonetta 2 (with Bayonetta 1) for full price, and the digital one for, less say, 45 bucks and Bayonetta 1 for 15 bucks and everyone happy? So anyone that's interested in both games can have them for the same price, regardless whether is retail or digital.
I only buy digital so I kinda hope that I'll be treated the same as someone who buys physical copies.
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