@Ramouz artifacting from non smooth transitions of frames. You just likely are not sensitive to the difference between FSR2 and even early version of DLSS on PC. If it's good to you that's fine but it's incredibly noticable to me and others looking subpar with noticable pixels.
@Ramouz it's extremely grainy with any version of FSR (PC and consoles). With DLSS it's better but still is one of the rougher looking AAA games. At least with the Switch 2 it will likely use DLSS from 540p to get to 1080p. This version will be interesting.
Just like Cyberpunk 2077 this game looks close to impossible or shouldn't be running on Switch 2. I definitely have to play this version alongside PC to see it's compromises/portability.
@axelhander any controller could work even 8bitdo controllers, because it works with button press + controller shake.
This is simply Nintendo being petty and they know not allowing it in 3rd party controllers with a single button press forces people to buy official Pro controller. Which equals more money for them.
@Max_the_German from a price perspective yes this helps quite a bit, but I personally would never want to use a DS4 again. Hell I sold all of mine at or before launch of PS5 and have never missed it, at all.
@TheBoilerman Sports teams, lack of money and have it justify their purchase, being jerks, etc. it's all the same short sided mentally that's gone on for decades to fuel a personal 'console war'.
@Antraxx777 Exactly. Prices are going up not down, so if your someone worried about cost of games it's best to pick option 1 or 2 not 3:
1. Find a good price on a PC key
2. Play it on GamePass
3. Suck up price increases and play on the most popular [console] brands Nintendo & PlayStation. (Neither rarely get decent sales until years later)
@DaniPooo can we not with excuses? Xbox with the One S had VRR in August of 2016. Almost a decade ago another company figured it out via HDMI on console. They are working with THE BEST PC hardware company Nvidia for multiple decades now, I'm sure they can figure out a solution.
This will be a huge letdown if Nintendo doesn't get VRR working into the dock. This is a huge reason for me to even upgrade to 2 to play lots of Switch 1 games at max framerates (30 fps) or the games with 60fps modes VRR would take of any rogue dips.
It's always something with Nintendo. Always.
Can we not want Nintendo to do better? Sounds like a weird thing to say but some people here are just like "it's fine", well for $500 console we should want Nintendo to do better if we are forking over more money for a better console.
Great for launch, but ultimately this is going to be Nintendo’s most expensive console by a long shot. I hope I can get one either based on Nintendo entry or at a retailer but if I cannot at launch I might be skipping this Nintendo generation fully just due to prices/tariffs/world economy.
@Antraxx777 that can be said for any game even single player games through replay value. I don't have an issue with $80 or even $100 due to how much games with all DLC and explanations cost now.
My issue is the perceived value of this game. I don't see it for myself but others I understand the same type of Mario Kart is worth it. And that's fine.
@sanderev I agree with this if this game was a brand new F-ZERO game I'd highly consider it. But it isn't, and I'm happy for people excited about this game.
If DK Bananza was $80 I'd still buy it (when I do get a Switch 2). I don't think $80 is the problem, it's the perceived value of this game that is the problem. And it seems others that are more MK fan than me see this problem as well.
Absolutely not worth $80, let alone $70/$60. If it reviews well and there is no paid DLC might be a good pop-in and pop-out game. Grinding, new items, food based costumes and new characters? All cool and new great stuff, but seems very baseline for a new entry.
It seems the most safe boring/but changed Mario Kart ever. They are finally in the Xbox 360 generation.
Of all the things Nintendo does to ignore devs and customers, they chose to listen to ‘some Devs’ on triggers and out right ignore all the other existing controllers, and customers that want analog.
The reasons Nintendo gives for decisions still astounds me.
It definitely looks much better than MK7/MK8/MK8D.
Wider tracks?What? And stay the same speed? Huge disappointment. Grinding and flying around? Yeah looks awesome. Slower to get boosts? Dumb as hell, MK games are slow enough.
I see good and also hugely disappointing features in World, but I’m gonna be honest MK is just too slow and boring for me. I need a brand new 3D F-ZERO any day now.
The reality is Nintendo did the math and they ultimately believe another $10 was worth charging.
Is it worth it to you? Just vote with your wallet. No one needs to get upset. During the 90s RPG SNES games with bigger chips as a requirement and had a battery which made those games cost more. $70-$90. This is in the realm of the same problem in some ways, you want the games with more content or fit all on the game card? It's going to be $69-$79 now.
If you don't like it? Wait for a sale, someday. Nintendo sets the rules (as well with publishers) on their own platforms for prices. If truly enough people don't buy the games potentially some games might lower prices sooner than later.
@ryan_nil It will not just like the Wii, Wii U, and 3DS stores. People with local copies or 'online backups' will be the only way they are available/archived those stores.
The good side to this conversation is Switch was the start of a new service, Nintendo Account, and Store so you would think just like 'Xbox One and onward' or 'PS4 and onward' type support. I.e. very long-term multiple decades at minimum something more like Steam.
I don't like the idea of buying game key cards but the way I see it is it isn't money lost like digital codes.
If publishers make their games $69-$79 the game sure as hell better been fully on a game card.
If publishers make their games $29-$59 I can understand they are trying to give us a discount and cheaping out putting the game on a game key card that I can resell.
With having game-key card system this makes no sense.
Then you think well Switch doesn't have that system in place so unless they put a different full version with dlc on Switch 2 red cart then this is why it's happening.
I'm just gonna get physical Switch 1 boxes or finish up using my vouchers and maybe pay for the Switch 2 upgrade if really interested in the upgrade digital. The box is a waste for these.
This is literally just 'not fully on card' games already on Switch. No where does it say it's one time use key. It's a game card with a key owned to it. You can resell the game-key card games.
This isn't like one time codes this is basically exactly like most Series X games where some or none of the game is on the disc and your disc is your "key/entitlement/license".
How is this so widely being informed incorrectly????
'Instead, the game-key card is your "key" to downloading the full game to your system via the internet.'
This does NOT mean it's one time usage like a code. Please stop spreading misinformation.
Leaks were spot on and Nintendo did d*** to contain them or properly announce the console at the correct time.
The correct time was last fall when there was a light release schedule of Switch games. Give a few more game appearances and leave the mystery until January/February then show this trailer we got then price, and release date with another announcement before April of a Switch 2 show of games with prices/release dates. Have it all released and shown before end April/early May.
Whomever said no to announcement last fall should probably get a demotion at Nintendo. Total mess up, and it ruined the cadence of the rest of it.
PC uses hardware machine learning, Switch 2 will use Nvidia's machine learning.
So far all the leaks have been true, so Switch 2 has Ampere Nvidia (RTX 3000) hardware.
Nothing stop gap about moving from Switch 1 adding hardware ray tracing, hardware AI upscaling & hardware frame generation. None of this was on Switch 1, this isn't a GameCube to a barely upgraded Wii HW. Nor Wii to WiiU (at least this was a bigger jump).
Machine learning will help portables even more than traditional consoles or gaming GPUs to easily push AI based pixels without killing the battery on a lower end SoC. Diminishing returns have been here for a few PC GPU generations and have from even PS4 Pro-> PS5 Pro.
Switch 2 will be more of a 'revolution' than the Wii was if we get a new Mario Paint game that have logical movements for gimmick controls with mouse movement in Switch 2 Joy-Cons.
I think more of a move from Switch 2 to Switch 3 could have a harder time moving from previous generation hardware when it hits more diminishing returns on just better Nvidia hardware with what multi frame generation or Neural rendering? How does that in theory either help Nintendo first party games? A few more frames with the same input latency, or movie quality assets on an 8 inch tablet?
About time... I got 2-3 good years out mine as day one owner. It's time for actually new hardware for a new generation and some backwards compatibility for Switch 1 games being there day one. No excuses, and no more than $399.
#1 F-ZERO 99 #2 Super Mario Wonder #3 Octopath Traveler II #4 Star Ocean The Second Story R #5 Blasphemous II
TotK barely made out of my top 5 Switch games at #6 and really I went back and forth with it and Sea of Stars. No question F-ZERO 99 was #1 by many many miles even over SMB Wonder, and it plus OPII were fantastic. A great year for games!
@Serpenterror yeah that's definitely the only logical reason other than they don't have any good ideas, they should just admit it. But spending millions on 1 2 Switch thinking anyone really cares is just funny to me, actually hilarious. Especially when a new Wario party game is coming THIS YEAR and is what everyone would want from a party game besides Mario Party mini games.
On Switch definitely more TotK to inch my way to the finish, as it is a much better game than BotW to me. Still not perfect like the reviews are saying but still a super fun time and one of the best games this year.
@MythTgr your not wrong unfortunately or well they are trying to become very Apple like, and third world countries are getting hit the worst by the changes.
I don't post ever but love the website. I got my code earlier and sadly none of my friends have a 3DS, but I'm loving the MH4U demo. I'm posting my other 3 NA codes! Have fun hunting everyone!
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Re: Opinion: Switch 2 Finally Gives Star Wars Outlaws A Second Chance
@Ramouz artifacting from non smooth transitions of frames. You just likely are not sensitive to the difference between FSR2 and even early version of DLSS on PC. If it's good to you that's fine but it's incredibly noticable to me and others looking subpar with noticable pixels.
Re: Opinion: Switch 2 Finally Gives Star Wars Outlaws A Second Chance
@Ramouz it's extremely grainy with any version of FSR (PC and consoles). With DLSS it's better but still is one of the rougher looking AAA games. At least with the Switch 2 it will likely use DLSS from 540p to get to 1080p. This version will be interesting.
Re: Opinion: Switch 2 Finally Gives Star Wars Outlaws A Second Chance
Just like Cyberpunk 2077 this game looks close to impossible or shouldn't be running on Switch 2. I definitely have to play this version alongside PC to see it's compromises/portability.
Re: Nintendo Today Video Showcases The New Switch 2 Pro Controller
@axelhander any controller could work even 8bitdo controllers, because it works with button press + controller shake.
This is simply Nintendo being petty and they know not allowing it in 3rd party controllers with a single button press forces people to buy official Pro controller. Which equals more money for them.
Re: Nintendo Today Video Showcases The New Switch 2 Pro Controller
@Max_the_German from a price perspective yes this helps quite a bit, but I personally would never want to use a DS4 again. Hell I sold all of mine at or before launch of PS5 and have never missed it, at all.
Re: Poll: So, Did You Manage To Get A Switch 2 Pre-Order In? (North America)
Target app within 2 minutes of going live, zero issues.
This was way easier than PS5, Series X, but about the same as getting a PS4 at launch.
Re: Switch 2 Game-Key Cards Won't Make It Easy For Physical Collectors In Japan
Bungled, we are. Looks like CP2077 UE is the only game for me at launch. What a freaking mess.
Re: Opinion: Steam Deck Fans Are Seriously Underestimating The Switch 2
@TheBoilerman Sports teams, lack of money and have it justify their purchase, being jerks, etc. it's all the same short sided mentally that's gone on for decades to fuel a personal 'console war'.
Re: Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered Is Set To Be Officially Announced Tomorrow
@Antraxx777 Exactly. Prices are going up not down, so if your someone worried about cost of games it's best to pick option 1 or 2 not 3:
1. Find a good price on a PC key
2. Play it on GamePass
3. Suck up price increases and play on the most popular [console] brands Nintendo & PlayStation. (Neither rarely get decent sales until years later)
Re: Nintendo Removes Variable Refresh Rate TV Mention On Switch 2 Websites
@DaniPooo can we not with excuses? Xbox with the One S had VRR in August of 2016. Almost a decade ago another company figured it out via HDMI on console. They are working with THE BEST PC hardware company Nvidia for multiple decades now, I'm sure they can figure out a solution.
This will be a huge letdown if Nintendo doesn't get VRR working into the dock. This is a huge reason for me to even upgrade to 2 to play lots of Switch 1 games at max framerates (30 fps) or the games with 60fps modes VRR would take of any rogue dips.
It's always something with Nintendo. Always.
Can we not want Nintendo to do better? Sounds like a weird thing to say but some people here are just like "it's fine", well for $500 console we should want Nintendo to do better if we are forking over more money for a better console.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 US Pre-Orders Start 24th April, System & Launch Game Pricing Unchanged
Great for launch, but ultimately this is going to be Nintendo’s most expensive console by a long shot. I hope I can get one either based on Nintendo entry or at a retailer but if I cannot at launch I might be skipping this Nintendo generation fully just due to prices/tariffs/world economy.
Re: Nintendo Direct: Mario Kart World: Every Announcement - How Would You Rate It?
@Antraxx777 that can be said for any game even single player games through replay value. I don't have an issue with $80 or even $100 due to how much games with all DLC and explanations cost now.
My issue is the perceived value of this game. I don't see it for myself but others I understand the same type of Mario Kart is worth it. And that's fine.
Re: ICYMI: Nintendo Reminds Us Game Vouchers Won't Work On Switch 2 Exclusives
No good deals here! Whatever, I'll still be using it Prime 4 and something that comes along also on Switch 1.
Re: Nintendo Direct: Mario Kart World: Every Announcement - How Would You Rate It?
@sanderev I agree with this if this game was a brand new F-ZERO game I'd highly consider it. But it isn't, and I'm happy for people excited about this game.
If DK Bananza was $80 I'd still buy it (when I do get a Switch 2). I don't think $80 is the problem, it's the perceived value of this game that is the problem. And it seems others that are more MK fan than me see this problem as well.
Re: Nintendo Direct: Mario Kart World: Every Announcement - How Would You Rate It?
Absolutely not worth $80, let alone $70/$60. If it reviews well and there is no paid DLC might be a good pop-in and pop-out game. Grinding, new items, food based costumes and new characters? All cool and new great stuff, but seems very baseline for a new entry.
It seems the most safe boring/but changed Mario Kart ever. They are finally in the Xbox 360 generation.
Re: Here's Why Switch 2 Joy-Con And Pro Controllers Don't Have Analogue Triggers
Of all the things Nintendo does to ignore devs and customers, they chose to listen to ‘some Devs’ on triggers and out right ignore all the other existing controllers, and customers that want analog.
The reasons Nintendo gives for decisions still astounds me.
Re: Digital Foundry Digs Deep Into Mario Kart World's Tech And Specs
It definitely looks much better than MK7/MK8/MK8D.
Wider tracks?What? And stay the same speed? Huge disappointment.
Grinding and flying around? Yeah looks awesome.
Slower to get boosts? Dumb as hell, MK games are slow enough.
I see good and also hugely disappointing features in World, but I’m gonna be honest MK is just too slow and boring for me. I need a brand new 3D F-ZERO any day now.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Comments On Switch 2's "Hefty" Price Hikes
The reality is Nintendo did the math and they ultimately believe another $10 was worth charging.
Is it worth it to you? Just vote with your wallet. No one needs to get upset. During the 90s RPG SNES games with bigger chips as a requirement and had a battery which made those games cost more. $70-$90. This is in the realm of the same problem in some ways, you want the games with more content or fit all on the game card? It's going to be $69-$79 now.
If you don't like it? Wait for a sale, someday. Nintendo sets the rules (as well with publishers) on their own platforms for prices. If truly enough people don't buy the games potentially some games might lower prices sooner than later.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@ryan_nil It will not just like the Wii, Wii U, and 3DS stores. People with local copies or 'online backups' will be the only way they are available/archived those stores.
The good side to this conversation is Switch was the start of a new service, Nintendo Account, and Store so you would think just like 'Xbox One and onward' or 'PS4 and onward' type support. I.e. very long-term multiple decades at minimum something more like Steam.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
I don't like the idea of buying game key cards but the way I see it is it isn't money lost like digital codes.
If publishers make their games $69-$79 the game sure as hell better been fully on a game card.
If publishers make their games $29-$59 I can understand they are trying to give us a discount and cheaping out putting the game on a game key card that I can resell.
Re: 'Switch 2 Editions' Are Supposedly A Switch Game Card And Download Code For The Upgrade Pack
With having game-key card system this makes no sense.
Then you think well Switch doesn't have that system in place so unless they put a different full version with dlc on Switch 2 red cart then this is why it's happening.
I'm just gonna get physical Switch 1 boxes or finish up using my vouchers and maybe pay for the Switch 2 upgrade if really interested in the upgrade digital. The box is a waste for these.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Priced At $449.99 For The Base Console
@sanderev thanks, I guess US Nintendo is just sending out an email next week when you CAN pre-order.
I had to supply my email to attempt to qualify, no email response or notification afterwards.
Re: Which Nintendo Switch Games Aren't Fully Compatible With Switch 2?
Half of my Switch games are on both of these lists....wtaf
Re: Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition Is Coming To Switch 2
I'm sure this will have cloud sync which will make this game worth it playing on Switch 2.
@Bizzyb Nice find!
Re: Yakuza 0: Director's Cut Is Exclusive To Nintendo Switch 2
More people to play this! One of the best ever.
Re: Gallery: Here's A Closer Look At The Switch 2 Console And Accessories
@OrtadragoonX Exactly, is Nintendo ready for the lawsuits from people exposing themselves like UNO on 360?
Re: Gallery: Here's A Closer Look At The Switch 2 Console And Accessories
No VRR from dock, no Hall Effect/TMR joysticks, an purchasable external camera...what year is this?
We got Nintendo'd y'all.
Re: Nintendo's Switch 2 'Game-Key Cards' Somehow Manage To Make Codes-In-A-Box Worse
This is nothing like the article says.
This is literally just 'not fully on card' games already on Switch. No where does it say it's one time use key. It's a game card with a key owned to it. You can resell the game-key card games.
This isn't like one time codes this is basically exactly like most Series X games where some or none of the game is on the disc and your disc is your "key/entitlement/license".
How is this so widely being informed incorrectly????
'Instead, the game-key card is your "key" to downloading the full game to your system via the internet.'
This does NOT mean it's one time usage like a code. Please stop spreading misinformation.
Re: The Nintendo Switch 2 Pro Controller - All New Features Revealed
Literally not Hall Effect nor TMR sticks. Pissed.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Priced At $449.99 For The Base Console
@sanderev what region are you from? I did the one in US like the second it was posted and I have heard nothing.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Priced At $449.99 For The Base Console
@somebread ha wait until you see the microSDXC Express cards prices. And remember bigger games take up more space.
Re: FromSoftware's 'The Duskbloods' Looks Like Bloodborne 2, Coming To Nintendo Switch 2 In 2026
O hell yeah! Cannot wait!
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Priced At $449.99 For The Base Console
Price is fine at $449.
Game prices on the other hand EIGHTY US DOLLARS.. Nintendo lost their minds.
Re: Nacon Reveals New Switch 2 Accessory Range, Including Mario Kart Wheels
Looks like a bunch of landfill garbage.
Re: Talking Point: Did All The Switch 2 Leaks 'Damage' Nintendo Or The Console's Reveal?
Leaks were spot on and Nintendo did d*** to contain them or properly announce the console at the correct time.
The correct time was last fall when there was a light release schedule of Switch games. Give a few more game appearances and leave the mystery until January/February then show this trailer we got then price, and release date with another announcement before April of a Switch 2 show of games with prices/release dates. Have it all released and shown before end April/early May.
Whomever said no to announcement last fall should probably get a demotion at Nintendo. Total mess up, and it ruined the cadence of the rest of it.
Re: Reaction: Nintendo Pins Hopes On Familiar Fun With Switch 2
PC uses hardware machine learning, Switch 2 will use Nvidia's machine learning.
So far all the leaks have been true, so Switch 2 has Ampere Nvidia (RTX 3000) hardware.
Nothing stop gap about moving from Switch 1 adding hardware ray tracing, hardware AI upscaling & hardware frame generation. None of this was on Switch 1, this isn't a GameCube to a barely upgraded Wii HW. Nor Wii to WiiU (at least this was a bigger jump).
Machine learning will help portables even more than traditional consoles or gaming GPUs to easily push AI based pixels without killing the battery on a lower end SoC. Diminishing returns have been here for a few PC GPU generations and have from even PS4 Pro-> PS5 Pro.
Switch 2 will be more of a 'revolution' than the Wii was if we get a new Mario Paint game that have logical movements for gimmick controls with mouse movement in Switch 2 Joy-Cons.
I think more of a move from Switch 2 to Switch 3 could have a harder time moving from previous generation hardware when it hits more diminishing returns on just better Nvidia hardware with what multi frame generation or Neural rendering? How does that in theory either help Nintendo first party games? A few more frames with the same input latency, or movie quality assets on an 8 inch tablet?
Re: Rumour: 'Switch 2' Will Reportedly Be Officially Revealed This Thursday
About time... I got 2-3 good years out mine as day one owner.
It's time for actually new hardware for a new generation and some backwards compatibility for Switch 1 games being there day one.
No excuses, and no more than $399.
Re: So, Will You Be Listening To The New Mobile App Nintendo Music?
I will absolutely not be using another app that sucks from Nintendo on a phone.
Re: Poll: Rate Your Favourite Switch Games Of The Year 2023
#1 F-ZERO 99
#2 Super Mario Wonder
#3 Octopath Traveler II
#4 Star Ocean The Second Story R
#5 Blasphemous II
TotK barely made out of my top 5 Switch games at #6 and really I went back and forth with it and Sea of Stars.
No question F-ZERO 99 was #1 by many many miles even over SMB Wonder, and it plus OPII were fantastic. A great year for games!
Re: 3DS Beat 'Em Up River City: Rival Showdown Comes To Switch This October
Fun game liked the 3ds version.
Re: Takaya Imamura: F-Zero Hasn't Been Revived Because Mario Kart Is Nintendo's "Most Popular Racing Game"
@Serpenterror yeah that's definitely the only logical reason other than they don't have any good ideas, they should just admit it. But spending millions on 1 2 Switch thinking anyone really cares is just funny to me, actually hilarious. Especially when a new Wario party game is coming THIS YEAR and is what everyone would want from a party game besides Mario Party mini games.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (June 24th)
On Switch definitely more TotK to inch my way to the finish, as it is a much better game than BotW to me. Still not perfect like the reviews are saying but still a super fun time and one of the best games this year.
Re: Yes, Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Costs $70, Collector's Edition Announced
@MythTgr your not wrong unfortunately or well they are trying to become very Apple like, and third world countries are getting hit the worst by the changes.
Re: Yes, Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Costs $70, Collector's Edition Announced
@Ade117 no doubt! Same! The one of few times preordering paid off. Though it seems like it's in the $99 two digital games in North America too.
Re: Classic Shooter Gleylancer Arrives On Switch Soon
Hell yes! I will probably be buying Switch, Xbox, and PS5 copies. I bet there isn't a Switch physical edition either, which sucks.
Re: Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate Demo Codes Now Being Distributed in North America
I don't post ever but love the website. I got my code earlier and sadly none of my friends have a 3DS, but I'm loving the MH4U demo. I'm posting my other 3 NA codes! Have fun hunting everyone!
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