It looks like they're just going to shove multiple games worth of plotpoints together and the pacing is heavily going to suffer from it just like the first one.
@darylb24
Without any disrespect meant you were 100% being defensive. You were complaining about things that were never even said and arguing against people that weren't there.
The defensive part comes in where you went on a whole rant about how graphics don't matter despite no one disagreeing.
Once again it's DF's job to review games on a technical level it doesn't matter how badly the game looks or if a series was never known for graphics they're still going to review it as it's their job and it's actually helpful for people to know. Because what if I'm looking to buy a game and it's performance isn't up to par or the quality isn't up to my standards?
Just like it's fair that Pokemon ZA's looks aren't enough to diminish your enjoyment of the game it's also fair for another person to be put off with how the game looks and skip it entirely, it's valid criticism.
It is what it is.
You answered your own question, it's their job.
I don't get why you and a good portion of the comment section are being so defensive about the game.
They're simply analyzing the game technically.
It's hilarious seeing all these comments seething about Digital Foundry's review when they're just doing the same thing they always done. It's literally their job to review games on a technical level and have been doing it for years, but for some reason people start whining when they have something to say about pokemon.
Objectively speaking the game does not look good, and that's putting it lightly. Pokemon ZA looks like it was made multiple generations ago, from the minecraft water textures that overlap each other, stale environments and every single building being a block with a JPEG slapped onto it as a window. Theres a lot more to say about it but the point is the game does not look good.
But that's fine, no one ever said that bad graphics can deter your enjoyment of a game, neither did digital foundry. This is the same "graphics don't matter" club right? Then it shouldn't bother seeing a company just give you the technical facts.
@Spider-Kev Yeah they definitely used to care about their appearance at some point and had some integrity. But it feels like after Iwatas death the soul of the company was gone.
Now Nintendo is more greedy and scummier than ever, suing smaller studios constantly, copyrighting basic game mechanics that they didn't even invent, overpriced games galore etc. etc.
@Debo626 Heard this a million times here.
If I'm not constantly positive or just the slightest bit critical I get called a pessimistic or whatever lol.
I'm critical of things and it's normal to be so.
Get over it.
Games are still getting delayed for the Switch 2 and a good amount of games are still being locked to 30fps which is still disappointing. And some games aren't coming to the console outright.
I don't a game will come close.
This feels like another NES vs SNES situation where both will be successful but the SNES will noticeably sell less units than it's successor. Same with the DS and 3Ds
@iLikeUrAttitude they weren't patenting the monster taming genre, this is sensationalism pushed by the Nintendo hate grifters.
They just want to target Pal World exclusively for lazily copying Pokemon designs even going as far as using models like Mewtwo Y.
They're patenting basic game mechanics that are commonly found in the monster taming genre, so yes they are. The problem is that with how vague their patents are, they can apply the to vast majority of games.
It just happens in their attempt to take down a single indie game that they somehow feel threatened by they want to risk pushing the bad industry in a terrible directin because Nintenod is a scummy company.
Also they aren't using any models from pokemon, that's a baseless rumor that has no evidence to support it and was debunked several times.
@Bolt_Strike Not sure if you can sue the design for being too similar.
But all claims about the designs being AI generated have held no value, same with the models apparently being ripped.
Nintendo doesn't have any ground to stand over legality wise.
So instead they just decide to resort to scummy tactics like patent trolling.
Thank god, patentening basic game mechanics does nothing but harm the gaming industry and stagnate creativity.
This is even more ridiculous since Nintendo wasn't even one of the first companies to do the monster collector formula, that goes to SMT and Dragon Quest V.
Nintendo is acting like a petty patent troll right now and I hope all of their game play mechanic patents get rejected too. As well as losing the Palworld lawsuit.
It feels illegal what Nintendo is doing - modifying current patents they made (after a game launched) and filing new ones in the middle of a lawsuit.
There is literally no point in buying Nintendo Music when they drip feed decade old music and don't even frequently update their catalog to games that just released. Just listen to the tracks through literally any other means. I personally use YT music because I get to listen to a variety of music along with Nintendo tracks and other game OSTs that other people uploaded.
This service along with their online is garbage and shouldn't be supported.
Series went on the decline after X&Y, and the quality got laughable bad and showed off Gamefreak's incompetence when pokemon transferred to console.
But things aren't going to change probably because the sell like hotcakes regardless of quality and the fans eat it up. If this were any other IP it would be ripped to shreds.
Xbox is basically dead and it's disappointing. I was one of the few people rooting for them this gen cause they were way more pro consumer compared to playstation and especially nintendo. Then it seemed like overnight they woke up one day and decided to piss everyone off.
I agree on Arceus though, that was a decent game, held back by it's technical limitations (even comparetd to other Switch 1 games)
I disagree, there were far better looking games that came out on the switch even on the first year of the console. Monster Hunter Stories 2, which came the year before made Arceus look like a venmu version of it.
Legends Arceus was just obviously rushed (unfortunately like most pokemon games on the switch). Then again Gamefreak was never known to be good at optimization either.
"I'm going to buy this new Pokémon game and if it isn't the perfect amalgamation of The Witcher 3 + Cyberpunk + GTA 6 (my inner idea of it) + a story to rival Tolkien but with Pokémon in it, then it's a lazy effort 1/10"
Probably the mental state of some people. I don't know. It's wild in here.
It actually sounds like you're ironically arguing with the inner idea of people in your head. No one in this entire comment section was saying the game had to be anywhere near that level of quality, people are just saying that for a franchise as big as pokemon, it's games should look like it was made in the same generation as games around it.
I agree that some things are overblown about this game and people are just dunking on it for clout and just cause, but I don't see it here at least. You're doing the exact opposite of the spectrum where you're brushing off even the slightest of criticism.
The article was marked as an opinion piece and anyone here is allowed to voice out their disappointment in the game.
If their "negativity" is bothering you so much, perhaps you don't like the game as much as you think you do.
I don't know... Maybe I've been spoiled by games like Cyberpunk 2077 and Hitman: World of Assassination. Or maybe Game Freak needs to get a grip and start making its worlds feel a bit more alive. It's not much to ask, right?
Am I crazy in thinking this, or do you agree? Should more NPCs in Pokémon games actually start moving and living their lives, or are you happy for them to just stand around and wait for you to interact with them? Let me know with a comment in the usual place.
Not at all, it's called having standards.
I would also imagine it's pretty jarring coming back to Pokemon ZA after playing Monster Hunter Stories, Pokemon Time Stranger, Palworld and so much more. Pokemon fans deserves a better game, especially when it's still multiple generations behind, simple as.
The fact that this is a conversation just shows how low the bar is for pokemon.
Every Dragon Quest game is self contained. The connections in DQ1-3 are very loose and only connected in the sense that they take place in the same world. same with DQ4-6 though even more loosely.
Honestly just add more sonic characters.
All the crossover characters worked with mario kart because they still fit in with nintendo universe but having Steve, Joker, Spongebob and more with no voice lines is really off putting.
If you want to vote with your wallet, you have to actually buy the games they DO put effort into, and this is definitely one of them.
That's not how voting with your wallet works lmao.
If the person is not satisfied with the product, then they logically shouldn't spend money on said product and let the company know. THAT'S voting with your wallet and not continuously buying every single entry and hoping it somehow gets better.
If pokemon (at least on console) is still this far behind compared to modern games (and games multiple generations ago) then he has the right to so.
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Re: The Super Mario Galaxy Movie Gets A New Movie Poster
It looks like they're just going to shove multiple games worth of plotpoints together and the pacing is heavily going to suffer from it just like the first one.
Re: Best Zelda Games Of All Time
Didn't expect Age of Imprisonment to be ranked lower than Age of Calamity if I'm being honest.
Re: Digital Foundry Covers The "Disappointing Tech" In Pokémon Legends: Z-A
@darylb24
Without any disrespect meant you were 100% being defensive. You were complaining about things that were never even said and arguing against people that weren't there.
The defensive part comes in where you went on a whole rant about how graphics don't matter despite no one disagreeing.
Once again it's DF's job to review games on a technical level it doesn't matter how badly the game looks or if a series was never known for graphics they're still going to review it as it's their job and it's actually helpful for people to know. Because what if I'm looking to buy a game and it's performance isn't up to par or the quality isn't up to my standards?
Just like it's fair that Pokemon ZA's looks aren't enough to diminish your enjoyment of the game it's also fair for another person to be put off with how the game looks and skip it entirely, it's valid criticism.
It is what it is.
Re: Digital Foundry Covers The "Disappointing Tech" In Pokémon Legends: Z-A
@darylb24
You answered your own question, it's their job.
I don't get why you and a good portion of the comment section are being so defensive about the game.
They're simply analyzing the game technically.
Re: Digital Foundry Covers The "Disappointing Tech" In Pokémon Legends: Z-A
It's hilarious seeing all these comments seething about Digital Foundry's review when they're just doing the same thing they always done.
It's literally their job to review games on a technical level and have been doing it for years, but for some reason people start whining when they have something to say about pokemon.
Objectively speaking the game does not look good, and that's putting it lightly. Pokemon ZA looks like it was made multiple generations ago, from the minecraft water textures that overlap each other, stale environments and every single building being a block with a JPEG slapped onto it as a window. Theres a lot more to say about it but the point is the game does not look good.
But that's fine, no one ever said that bad graphics can deter your enjoyment of a game, neither did digital foundry.
This is the same "graphics don't matter" club right? Then it shouldn't bother seeing a company just give you the technical facts.
Re: Random: Steam's Brand New Game Console Sure Looks Awfully Familiar
That is an ugly controller
Re: Pokémon Pokopia Gets March 2026 Release Date, Brand New Trailer Coming This Week
Why this game of all titles?
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment?
Haven't played it, looks more interesting than the last one though.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Dragon Power (NES)
Japan by far, clear, concise, has the Toriyama artwork and no clutter.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (6th November)
The Finals as usual with friends and Digimon Story: Time Stranger by myself on PC.
Surprised by how much I like it, it's my first Digimon game.
Re: Plants vs. Zombies: Replanted Rolls Out More Updates, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
They should've just delayed the port if it was going to have this many issues at launch.
Re: Good Smile Reveals New Fire Emblem Byleth Dancer Figure, Pre-Orders Now Live
This'll probably sell out in a few minutes lol
Re: Hiroshi Yamauchi Might Feel Envious Of Switch 2's Success, Says Miyamoto
@Spider-Kev Yeah they definitely used to care about their appearance at some point and had some integrity.
But it feels like after Iwatas death the soul of the company was gone.
Now Nintendo is more greedy and scummier than ever, suing smaller studios constantly, copyrighting basic game mechanics that they didn't even invent, overpriced games galore etc. etc.
Re: Hiroshi Yamauchi Might Feel Envious Of Switch 2's Success, Says Miyamoto
@Spider-Kev
Simple - I like do Nintendo's consoles and games, I just don't like them as a company, they're a terrible one at that.
Re: What Are The 100 Best Nintendo Games? Here's The Chance To Make Your Voice Heard
I don't expect the top picks to be that different from this sites tbh.
But I'm interested to see the list.
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers Its Tech Verdict On Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment
The resolution is probably that low because it was originally meant for the switch 1.
Re: Hiroshi Yamauchi Might Feel Envious Of Switch 2's Success, Says Miyamoto
@Debo626 Heard this a million times here.
If I'm not constantly positive or just the slightest bit critical I get called a pessimistic or whatever lol.
I'm critical of things and it's normal to be so.
Get over it.
Re: Hiroshi Yamauchi Might Feel Envious Of Switch 2's Success, Says Miyamoto
I wonder if Yamauchi or Iwata are rolling in their graves looking at the current state of Nintendo. (Not financially obviously)
Re: Opinion: Third-Party Support For Switch 2 Is Already A Dream Come True
I would say it's ok.
Games are still getting delayed for the Switch 2 and a good amount of games are still being locked to 30fps which is still disappointing.
And some games aren't coming to the console outright.
Re: Shigeru Miyamoto Isn't Convinced Another IP Will Surpass Mario Kart's Sales
@RoboCube I mean the games are completely different from each other.
Re: Shigeru Miyamoto Isn't Convinced Another IP Will Surpass Mario Kart's Sales
I don't a game will come close.
This feels like another NES vs SNES situation where both will be successful but the SNES will noticeably sell less units than it's successor. Same with the DS and 3Ds
Re: Street Fighter 6 McDonald's EX Colours Now Available, Here's Every Free Code
These look great lol
Re: Review: Mortal Kombat: Legacy Kollection (Switch 2) - A Killer Kompilation, But Online Is A Mess At Launch
Another Netherrealm game with a bunch of problems at launch?
Color me surprised.
Re: Nintendo's Pokémon Catching-Related Patent Has Been Rejected In Japan
poyo_pie wrote:
They're patenting basic game mechanics that are commonly found in the monster taming genre, so yes they are. The problem is that with how vague their patents are, they can apply the to vast majority of games.
It just happens in their attempt to take down a single indie game that they somehow feel threatened by they want to risk pushing the bad industry in a terrible directin because Nintenod is a scummy company.
Also they aren't using any models from pokemon, that's a baseless rumor that has no evidence to support it and was debunked several times.
Re: Nintendo's Pokémon Catching-Related Patent Has Been Rejected In Japan
@Bolt_Strike Not sure if you can sue the design for being too similar.
But all claims about the designs being AI generated have held no value, same with the models apparently being ripped.
Nintendo doesn't have any ground to stand over legality wise.
So instead they just decide to resort to scummy tactics like patent trolling.
Re: Nintendo's Pokémon Catching-Related Patent Has Been Rejected In Japan
Thank god, patentening basic game mechanics does nothing but harm the gaming industry and stagnate creativity.
This is even more ridiculous since Nintendo wasn't even one of the first companies to do the monster collector formula, that goes to SMT and Dragon Quest V.
Nintendo is acting like a petty patent troll right now and I hope all of their game play mechanic patents get rejected too. As well as losing the Palworld lawsuit.
It feels illegal what Nintendo is doing - modifying current patents they made (after a game launched) and filing new ones in the middle of a lawsuit.
Garbage, scummy company.
Re: Surprise! The Next Shantae Game Is Now Officially In Development
Neat, hope it does well.
Re: Pokémon Legends Z-A Update Planned For November, Will Address "Known Issues"
@Edward_J_Grug_III I don't know, I'm sure there would be people willing to pay money for Shiny pokemon, or pokemon with perfect IVs.
Especially since apparently this is the hardest pokemon game to farm shinies as theres no method/exploit to streamline the process.
Re: Nintendo On Why The Mario Kart World Album Isn't Available For Nintendo Music
There is literally no point in buying Nintendo Music when they drip feed decade old music and don't even frequently update their catalog to games that just released.
Just listen to the tracks through literally any other means.
I personally use YT music because I get to listen to a variety of music along with Nintendo tracks and other game OSTs that other people uploaded.
This service along with their online is garbage and shouldn't be supported.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Dragon Quest I & II HD-2D Remake
Can't wait to get it.
Re: Talking Point: When Did 'Good Enough' Become Good Enough For Pokémon?
Series went on the decline after X&Y, and the quality got laughable bad and showed off Gamefreak's incompetence when pokemon transferred to console.
But things aren't going to change probably because the sell like hotcakes regardless of quality and the fans eat it up.
If this were any other IP it would be ripped to shreds.
Re: The First Review For Dragon Quest I & II HD-2D Remake Is In
Drnsnsr wrote:
Someone clearly can't read lol.
Re: The First Review For Dragon Quest I & II HD-2D Remake Is In
Probably just gonna get it on PC like I did with 3.
Haven't touched my switch in almost a year and don't plan on getting a Switch 2 anytime soon.
Re: Shigeru Miyamoto Is Confident Mario Will Be Around For "A Long Time To Come"
I mean, this is to be expected, Mario is going to outlive us all.
Re: Xbox Reiterates Its Support For Switch 2
Xbox is basically dead and it's disappointing.
I was one of the few people rooting for them this gen cause they were way more pro consumer compared to playstation and especially nintendo.
Then it seemed like overnight they woke up one day and decided to piss everyone off.
Re: Plants Vs. Zombies: Replanted Has Been Updated, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
We're at the age of gaming where it's okay to release a botched product on launch with the hopes of "fixing it later" and it's really sad.
Re: Pokémon Legends: Z-A Sold 5.8 Million Copies Globally In Its First Week
Ralek85 wrote:
I disagree, there were far better looking games that came out on the switch even on the first year of the console. Monster Hunter Stories 2, which came the year before made Arceus look like a venmu version of it.
Legends Arceus was just obviously rushed (unfortunately like most pokemon games on the switch). Then again Gamefreak was never known to be good at optimization either.
Re: Opinion: Pokémon Legends Z-A Is The Creepiest Entry Yet, Not In A Good Way
@RedfromKanto
That won't matter much if they keep their same development schedule that basically rushings their games to maximize profit.
Re: Opinion: Pokémon Legends Z-A Is The Creepiest Entry Yet, Not In A Good Way
OmnitronVariant wrote:
It actually sounds like you're ironically arguing with the inner idea of people in your head. No one in this entire comment section was saying the game had to be anywhere near that level of quality, people are just saying that for a franchise as big as pokemon, it's games should look like it was made in the same generation as games around it.
I agree that some things are overblown about this game and people are just dunking on it for clout and just cause, but I don't see it here at least. You're doing the exact opposite of the spectrum where you're brushing off even the slightest of criticism.
The article was marked as an opinion piece and anyone here is allowed to voice out their disappointment in the game.
If their "negativity" is bothering you so much, perhaps you don't like the game as much as you think you do.
Re: Opinion: Pokémon Legends Z-A Is The Creepiest Entry Yet, Not In A Good Way
@B_Lindz
Nostalgia is a heck of a drug.
Re: Opinion: Pokémon Legends Z-A Is The Creepiest Entry Yet, Not In A Good Way
Not at all, it's called having standards.
I would also imagine it's pretty jarring coming back to Pokemon ZA after playing Monster Hunter Stories, Pokemon Time Stranger, Palworld and so much more. Pokemon fans deserves a better game, especially when it's still multiple generations behind, simple as.
The fact that this is a conversation just shows how low the bar is for pokemon.
Re: Nintendo Direct For Kirby Air Riders Announced For Thursday, 23rd October
We're been getting a bunch of game dedicated directs it's kinda funny.
Re: Poll: Is It About Time Game Freak Added Voice Acting To Pokémon?
The fact that this is a question shows how low the bar is for Pokemon.
Re: Dragon Quest VII: Reimagined Producer Reckons We're Ready For Its Dark, Sorrowful Story
@dew12333
Every Dragon Quest game is self contained.
The connections in DQ1-3 are very loose and only connected in the sense that they take place in the same world.
same with DQ4-6 though even more loosely.
Re: Atlus To Address Persona 3 Reload's Switch 2 Frame Rate Hiccups In "Future Patches"
@Jeronan
Honestly Atlus has kinda been having a track record of screwing up PC ports... this is really disappointing.
Re: Atlus To Address Persona 3 Reload's Switch 2 Frame Rate Hiccups In "Future Patches"
Theres no reason for the game to not run at 60fps if we're being honest.
Re: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Team Open To More DLC: "Tell Us What You Want"
Honestly just add more sonic characters.
All the crossover characters worked with mario kart because they still fit in with nintendo universe but having Steve, Joker, Spongebob and more with no voice lines is really off putting.
Re: UK Charts: Pokémon Legends: Z-A Sales Almost 50/50 Across Switch And Switch 2
LastFootnote wrote:
That's not how voting with your wallet works lmao.
If the person is not satisfied with the product, then they logically shouldn't spend money on said product and let the company know. THAT'S voting with your wallet and not continuously buying every single entry and hoping it somehow gets better.
If pokemon (at least on console) is still this far behind compared to modern games (and games multiple generations ago) then he has the right to so.
Re: Nintendo's Trademarking 'Virtual Console' Again, But Don't Get Your Hopes Up
Thank god for emulation because the NSO library for retro games is garbage and virtual console isn't here either.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Pokémon Legends: Z-A?
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