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I mean, this is to be expected, Mario is going to outlive us all.

Xbox is basically dead and it's disappointing.
I was one of the few people rooting for them this gen cause they were way more pro consumer compared to playstation and especially nintendo.
Then it seemed like overnight they woke up one day and decided to piss everyone off.

We're at the age of gaming where it's okay to release a botched product on launch with the hopes of "fixing it later" and it's really sad.

I disagree, there were far better looking games that came out on the switch even on the first year of the console. Monster Hunter Stories 2, which came the year before made Arceus look like a venmu version of it.
Legends Arceus was just obviously rushed (unfortunately like most pokemon games on the switch). Then again Gamefreak was never known to be good at optimization either.

@RedfromKanto

That won't matter much if they keep their same development schedule that basically rushings their games to maximize profit.

Probably the mental state of some people. I don't know. It's wild in here.

It actually sounds like you're ironically arguing with the inner idea of people in your head. No one in this entire comment section was saying the game had to be anywhere near that level of quality, people are just saying that for a franchise as big as pokemon, it's games should look like it was made in the same generation as games around it.

I agree that some things are overblown about this game and people are just dunking on it for clout and just cause, but I don't see it here at least. You're doing the exact opposite of the spectrum where you're brushing off even the slightest of criticism.
The article was marked as an opinion piece and anyone here is allowed to voice out their disappointment in the game.

If their "negativity" is bothering you so much, perhaps you don't like the game as much as you think you do.

@B_Lindz

Nostalgia is a heck of a drug.

I don't know... Maybe I've been spoiled by games like Cyberpunk 2077 and Hitman: World of Assassination. Or maybe Game Freak needs to get a grip and start making its worlds feel a bit more alive. It's not much to ask, right?

Am I crazy in thinking this, or do you agree? Should more NPCs in Pokémon games actually start moving and living their lives, or are you happy for them to just stand around and wait for you to interact with them? Let me know with a comment in the usual place.

Not at all, it's called having standards.
I would also imagine it's pretty jarring coming back to Pokemon ZA after playing Monster Hunter Stories, Pokemon Time Stranger, Palworld and so much more. Pokemon fans deserves a better game, especially when it's still multiple generations behind, simple as.
The fact that this is a conversation just shows how low the bar is for pokemon.

We're been getting a bunch of game dedicated directs it's kinda funny.

The fact that this is a question shows how low the bar is for Pokemon.

@dew12333

Every Dragon Quest game is self contained.
The connections in DQ1-3 are very loose and only connected in the sense that they take place in the same world.
same with DQ4-6 though even more loosely.

@Jeronan

Honestly Atlus has kinda been having a track record of screwing up PC ports... this is really disappointing.

Theres no reason for the game to not run at 60fps if we're being honest.

Honestly just add more sonic characters.
All the crossover characters worked with mario kart because they still fit in with nintendo universe but having Steve, Joker, Spongebob and more with no voice lines is really off putting.

That's not how voting with your wallet works lmao.
If the person is not satisfied with the product, then they logically shouldn't spend money on said product and let the company know. THAT'S voting with your wallet and not continuously buying every single entry and hoping it somehow gets better.

If pokemon (at least on console) is still this far behind compared to modern games (and games multiple generations ago) then he has the right to so.

Thank god for emulation because the NSO library for retro games is garbage and virtual console isn't here either.

@Crecca
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@spiderman0616 Honestly Expedition 33 felt like a game you see once a generation. I don't expect many devs to follow suit since, as you see with pokemon, following a familiar formula works just fine.

@DollyrotsFan1 Yeah I think the spinoff looked cute, more side tracks for the series are always welcome.

As for the main priority it's most likely the anime and merch, with is actually most of the money pokemon generates if i recall correctly.

@anubisvel

You're constantly putting words in my mouth and it's blatantly obviously you aren't actually reading my comments. You're just arguing with the made up version of me in your head.

I'm going to voice my opinions and criticism and if you feel so annoyed by it, then by all means block me. I was having actual productive conversations with other people here, I'm not going to waste any further time with you.

100% right, any other ip would've and has been ripped to shreds for less.

@DollyrotsFan1

While you're right that pokemon has never been visually impressive, back in the handheld era it wasn't criticized for it's presentation because it actually matched the presentation of the console.

As for the difficulty yeah Pokemon has never been that easy, but options to make the game harder would be appreciate instead of fanmade ways to do so.

@spiderman0616 You're right but the series has been adamant about maximizing profits with it's very small 13 million budget.
For reference even Expedition 33, a much more polished game had an estimated budget of 18 to 30 million.

@DollyrotsFan1 Being marketed for kids isn't an excuse for the game to look as bad as it does. That was most likely an explanation for the difficulty and formula. The presentation is Gamefreak blatantly cutting corners.

@anubisvel Good that you enjoy it, but I'm going to voice my criticisms whether you like it or not. Criticism is how games improve and pokemon definitely hasn't had enough of it, looking at the releases.
I also recommend you actually read the context to what I was replying to, I obviously wasn't calling enjoying the game mental gymnastics.

@DollyrotsFan1 Well at least unlike pokemon Sonic has mostly been listening to it's fans and actual made significant strides in it's series. If every pokemon release in the last decade or so is going to release in such embarrassing state, naturally, it's going to receive just as harsh criticism in return.
It's very simple.

Other long running franchises don't receive the same level of flack because they don't release in such embarrassing states. You're overcomplicating it for the sake of it and resorting to your own personal theories when the answer has been very clear for a while - people just want a more polished product from the highest grossing media franchise in the world.

No it's exactly as bad as people are saying it is and the fact that you're defending it is baffling. Every building basically have the same jpeg for the windows and look the same, most of which you can't enter. Which is embarrassing since the entire game takes place in the city, so you'd think there would be more effort put into it. The textures for both versions are very low resolution and muddy and it's especially apparent with the water where different layered textures clash over each other like something out of minecraft.

I'm not knocking you for enjoying the game, but going through all these mental gymnastics to defend something that objectively looks terrible isn't a good look.
It's also strange how you just go out of your way to invalidate criticism for the game by just saying most of it isn't real and is pushing some agenda for companies like you worded.

That isn't quite true because you have to understand that only pokemon is being criticized this harshly for the reasons I stated above and many more.
Of course it's going to receive flack for how it looks in the context of it's series when it's the highest grossing media franchise in the world and a multitude of games coming out blow it out of the water visually and performance wise, even in the same genre as it. (Digimon Time Stranger, SMT V, Monster Hunter Stories 2, Palword, list goes on).

Again it's great that you like that game but this is not how you respond to criticism about it.
But like you said it's pretty simple - the game looks mediocre and should so much better especially when it's the highest grossing media franchise in the world.

@kal_el_07241 Yeah this poll along with other review sites, should've been pushed back a week minimum. I get clicks matter but still.

These articles don't really make sense - having a poll in which a good amount of people who haven't played the vote not to mention this early in the games launch where everyone here probably hasn't finished it is pretty stupid.

I don't have the game nor a Switch 2 and after seeing gameplay of ZA I definitely don't plan to get it because even taking the Switch 2 version in mind it looks terrible. And it's even more baffling how people are rating the Switch 1 version so highly when it runs like garbage.

But then again, it's pokemon. If this was any other IP as someone mentioned, it would be ripped apart.

@horizonisland

Hi there, I agree with everything you said, but just a word of advice - you're probably going to be arguing with brick walls when it comes to the quality of pokemon games. The current state of the franchise is why I dropped the series after Sun and Moon and am happily playing much better games. Just finished the Digimon Time Stranger demo and bought the full game
I reccommend you save yourself the headache.

And not sure how reliable this is but a quick google search says that Nintendo does not have a say when pokemon games are released.

Nintendo's role is primarily as a console manufacturer and a 1/3 owner of The Pokémon Company, not as the final decision-maker for Pokémon game releases. It publishes the games on its consoles, but the release dates are set by the development and publishing companies

Hopefully that helped.

The game shouldn't of released on Switch 1 considering how garbage it came out. Hopefully next gen is focused specifically on the Switch 2 and doesn't look at disappointing as ZA.
Though it's not a surprise that they did considering Nintendo/GF wants to maximize profit and people will buy it anyway.

They're both pretty mediocre but the NA has the more interesting art in the very least. It's just kinda ruined by all the clutter.

@Joeynator3000
Yeah same, I was hopeful about this game but then I saw my friends play it and it looked so bland.
The environment and visuals are so lifeless and boring.
Battles are just a watered down versions of xenoblade without the depth and story doesn't look like anything to write home about.

On the bright side digimon story time stranger looks like a much better investment.

Well this definitely isn't looking good, if even THIS site was noticeably harsh (at least by their standards).

And taking acount the nintendolife tax that makes this game a 6/10.

Not good, was actually rooting for this game to be more.

@inenai

Waiting for a price drop on a Nintendo game

Definitely had fun with my friends playing the beta for Crossworlds, problem is that I'm not paying $70 for any kart racer.

I might wait for a sale but I don't really play kart racers like that anymore.

I don't think Sonic Crossworlds is some revolutionary game though, it just feels like Mario Kart fumbled the ball so hard on what should've been an easy bag it just made Crossworlds look that much better.

@solarwolf07

Oh don't get me wrong, I don't want a rushed product by any means, I'm just disappointed that this is happening in the first place. I thought the Switch 2's extra power would make it so we wouldn't have all of these delays and compromises with it's ports.

The console isn't even a year old and the ports are getting treated like this.
Really disappointing.

What a delusional take, the only thing Nintendo's protecting is it's wallet. It's a greedy company that's only been anti consumer this generation.

That's just disappointing then.
It's probably going to run terrible on the base switch.

@Jujuman Ah another one. Good job! These almost make you sound smart!

@Jujuman Must've taken a lot of brain power to think of that comeback. Good job!

@Jujuman Yeah typing in all caps "HAHAHAHA" is making a great case for you lol.

Also you're obviously feigning ignorance but I'll enlighten you.
You were the first to insult after I retorted your previous statement. And since you had no real retort you just went to straight to insults.

@Jujuman Well I wouldn't call it a 'problem', it's quite amusing seeing people like you make fools of themselves because they don't have anything smart to say and can only resort to insults.
But I'm sure you have a lot to say, so by all means let your frustration out.

@Jujuman Saying "I didn't use logic" then proceeding to say develop a better argument is probably the funniest thing I read today.

It looks really good.
Glad the series is getting more love while we wait for 12.

Unfortunately, still not enough to convince me to get a Switch 2 but it'll add to a nice shopping list when I do.

Using your logic then Nintendo is also in the wrong.
Pokemon itself hasn't innovated anything and was "copying" off existing games that invented the monster catcher and summoner mechanics that have existed for years before it was even a thought. Dragon Quest 5 and The original Megami Tensei did monster catching years before hand. And this summoning nonsense which they just patented was also done long before the series even existed.

Using existing mechanics isn't copying and patent trolling like Nintendo is doing prevents innovation in the gaming industry. This isn't healthy for the comsumer in the slightest.

This exactly sounds like a reasonable explanation, I'm really surprised because this is coming from Ubisoft of all companies.

It's sad that even the Switch 2 is getting bad ports still.
Guess I'll stick with my PC for now and only pick one up after Xenoblade, smash, or something that entices me to finally get one.

This should be the standard for every single switch game, Xbox and Playstation did upgrades for free.