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@Rainz

It did take a while to get going yeah. Strong releases across all formats now though.

@sixrings

Who are you talking to?

@CANOEberry

“ My words, sure. Also a reasonable inference from the attitude and tone of the arguments you're making.”

It’s not a reasonable inference, it’s just your words that you’re arguing with.

“As for "purchasing decisions", and my respecting them, there's your blatant hypocrisy”. Talking about "reality" and giving us "This is the way it is - and you're gonna like it!"

I never said this.

“is you trying to impose your ideology on the situation”

I never did this.

“If you want to celebrate choices being withdrawn from you”

I’m not celebrating anything.

“but don't expect us to go along.”

I don’t expect you to. I never said I did.

My whole point is a lot of people won’t care. They’re perfectly entitled to. That does not make them ‘feeble minded’ as you so condescendingly refer to them in post #69. You’re perfectly entitled to care, as is everyone who does care. But a lot of people simply wont. The rest is entirely you arguing against things I haven’t said.

@Serpenterror

They’re neither ‘fake’ nor a scam. Come on now.

@ElkinFencer10

It’s getting quite funny. I can understand collectors being upset but they’re a very small part of the market. Some others seem to have made hatred of GKC (rather than the far more offensive Code in a Box games for example) their whole personality, which is comical.

Most of the market won’t care though. Imagine talking to someone who doesn’t spend time on sites like this. Thats most people, the kind who consume all their media on digital formats and subscription services. Try explaining that they shouldn’t buy and enjoy a game now because at some point in the future (when they might no longer be around or playing games) the servers will be turned off and if they haven’t already downloaded the game (that they’re supposed to be upset about not being able to access) they won’t be able to redownload it. That if they don’t buy it there’s a chance that at some point in the future publishers will go back to ‘full games’ (well, full games minus any updates or patches) on physical media (rather than just go digital only). They’d think you were crazy.

@ro-kurorai

“I can't quite grasp the anomosity towards Game-Key Cards. It's either GKC or dgital only/code in a box as GKC releases would not have received proper physical releases in the first place”

That’s how I see it. If GKCs don’t work out it’ll be digital games only.

“It seems we're not going to get a definitive answer on this, with publishers offering various reasons as to why they're opting to use Game-Key Cards”

Of course we’re not going to get a definitive answer to why different publishers making different games make different decisions.

@Zeebor15

That doesn’t sound right. If it was only because of the EU they would remove servers for other territories. They could also remove the servers now and argue ‘reasonable time’ has passed. They haven’t though.

@HammerKirby

Intergrade takes ages to load and stutters running off a HDD, according to some comments. Cyberpunk is not the same as Intergrade and I’ll go with the opinion of the developers who’ve actually been porting PS5 games to Switch 2 over some random on the internet.

@HammerKirby

SSD Recommended though, and Console versions are SSD only. Don’t know about Cyberpunk DLC, nothing has ever indicated it was a HDD issue.

@VeganH

Millions, but they’re not on here or Social Media. Such places are actually not representative of Gaming at large.

@Zeebor15

Why 10-15 years? You can still redownload Wii games from 2006. The servers going down doesn’t mean you can’t play the game it just means you can’t redownload it.

@Suketoudara

Sadly yes this is what will happen if GKCs disappear. Digital only.

@Darth_Spriggan

Thanks, appreciate that

@Rainz

It’s really turning into a great year

Would have taken a punt on this if the GKC had been available in Europe. As it is I’ll wait for a deep sale on the digital or go back and play the original on GameCube.

@BBBBBBBBBBB

“ Without GKC, the Switch 2 would be 95% digital only games or code in a box. If we kill them then the next Nintendo console will be that way it not even fully digital with just a backwards compatible slot if we're lucky.”

Exactly right. But the GKC thing is an interesting case study in how Online hysteria grows and how people follow each other.

@HammerKirby

This is Intergrade, which is a PS5 game

That’s two developers who’ve ported current gen games cited this issue. Obviously it won’t have affected Cyberpunk as that was a PS4/XB1 that ran from mechanical Hard Drives.

It’s certainly helped me. I had it on Series X for years and hardly touched it. Since buying it for Switch 2 I’ve put hours in. Great game.

I’m not sure they were ever considered graphical showcases. Maybe a couple of the DS games had good 2D graphics but that’s about it.

Good to see more third party support. Yakuza 0 DC must have done alright which bodes well.

@Darth_Spriggan

My sons has a few versions of this and he pretty much entirely moved to the new one. He wants this for Christmas with his Switch 2 and I’m really hoping for a decent price on Black Friday. Especially with this being the Code in a Box hideousness.

@TerribleTerabytes

😂 I’m quite happy with whatever reflection I get from choosing to buy the best portable football game around with my own money. Much rather that than arrogantly judging others Online for how they spend their money. I can’t think of much worse than the reflection I’d get from being that guy.

@sixrings

No guarantee but the one case study we have-Switch was more expensive than PS4 for its first three years on the market-is pretty conclusive.

Back in the days when Gaming was exclusively on Console and PC there was an easily perceivable performance gap between handheld and tethered Gaming e.g. out a GBA next to a GameCube and most people could see a difference. Now Console gaming is a small and, at best, not growing part of the Gaming market. The many people who would think a Digital Foundry was a fashionable new bar and eatery rather than obsessive counting frames on Youtube won’t see much of a gap at all so won’t see any benefit is something that can only be used tied to a TV. Many of the generation that merrily pays more for IPads than they do TVs will find the tethered Console gamer preference for pixels over convenience little more than quaint.

Really looking forward to this. Getting good feedback elsewhere from anyone who isn’t bothered about the frame rate. Sports games are great portable time sinks.

@TerribleTerabytes

I’ll buy WHATEVER I WANT thanks

@sixrings

Portable systems have been selling in massive numbers for 37 years now. In Nintendos case outselling their equivalent home systems every single time. The demand for portability is well proven by now, regardless of what happens in your house.

I would have gone for his on Switch 2 if we’d got the GKC in Europe. As it is I’ll wait for a sale. Ah well.

Some very healthy percentages for SW Outlaws and Hogwarts there. Decent ports sell well.

Same should apply to WWE which is by all accounts a top port but it’s a Code in a Box so not as deserved.

@axelhander

I’m really not. Post 126 is questioning whether a lot of the people criticising the VB have ever really played it and touches on game preservation while actively avoiding the price debate. It’s very hard to see how a petulant “Leave the billionaire corporation alone, you guys” is related to that in any way.

@axelhander

I’m not clear how your post #129 relates to post #126

@7h0r

Somebody making a different decision to you on whether to spend their money on an entertainment product does not make them ’brainwashed’ and nor do they need to ‘get their heads checked.’ It’s an entirely subjective decision and you really need to grow into understanding that.

Great response to the first letter. It fascinates me that people are still trying to pretend there’s an objective way to analyse value.

I also have great interest in the Arcade Archives series. Even a round up of everything available with some short reviews?

No I don’t think so. I love that they’re doing it, it’s all very Nintendo, but the original device is awful and I can’t see this really being that much better.

Not a game that I’m interested in but excellent news for Nintendo. There will probably be a few on here not happy about it or who’ll pretend that it not graphically matching PS5 means it doesn’t count. But this is significant. Law of diminishing returns has caught up with Graphical power.

@Telcontyr

I’ll buy whatever I want thanks

@CupidStunt

They’ve always been a greedy corporation. If you ever thought different their marketing was working.

Don’t like the sound of this. If you charge premium prices you should at least be providing commensurate customer service. Seems everyone doing this now.

@PinderSchloss nailed it, sadly (albeit amusingly)

60 FPS would have been better but doesn’t look like a deal breaker from the video. My son wants it for Christmas so I’ll happily give it a play. Happy to sacrifice performance for portability when it comes to sport games.

Switch 2 continues to sell very well, perplexing Internet doom warriors everywhere.

@The_Nintendo_Pedant

I was on here back when it was the VC Archive in 2007 and among all the complaints about the speed of releases there were supporters of a subscription service. I always thought they should offer the option of buying games individually alongside the subscription but I assume revenues are better from NSO than VC. The subscription model has always found its supporters.

https://www.vg247.com/our-dreams-for-virtual-console-on-nintendo-switch

https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2017/03/03/the-nintendo-switchs-virtual-console-should-be-a-subscription-service/

https://thewiiu.com/topic/16460-wii-u-virtual-console-subscription-service/

https://www.nintendojo.com/features/editorials/how-nintendo-switch-can-improve-virtual-console

https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-nintendo-switch-virtual-console-subcription-service

@The_Nintendo_Pedant

Inventory management has always been their thing. There’s probably a support group for Managers of retail chains in the 80s and early 90s suffering from PTSD. I wish they’d make more SNES ones but the rest of their NSO controllers have been sat in stock on the UK website for months now.

@MyMemory

It says “ They already did that and everyone balked at the prices and wanted the netflix of retro video games instead. The audience of people who would throw even a few bucks for roms a la carte has surely only shrunk further since then.”

It wasn’t agreeing with you

@sixrings

When did ‘this site’ (actually a disparate collection of writers and hundreds of different people offering opinions) tell you that? Either way it’s similar to Xbox Series and PS5 launches. I got a XSX on launch day and great as it is, it had literally nothing that wouldn’t have played on my XB1. PS5 had Astros Playroom and a Souls remake then 3 exclusives in 2021 and 2 in 2022 (one being a remake). PS4 and XB1 didn’t even have BC and still launched with largely higher resolution PS3/360 games. Switch 2 is at least on par with all of them.

@OrtadragoonX

Definitely agree on the GameCube comparison. I loved the GC launch period, I bought one on UK launch in May 2002, but it was definitely similar in how it stayed clear of A tier franchises. Melee did really well but Smash wasn’t actually a huge franchise coming off the back of the N64. Switch 2 at least has Mario kart but there’s a definite parallel between Luigi’s Mansion and DK Bananza.

I was discussing the Dreamcast launch with someone on here the other day and said how to me it’s slightly misleading. The Western launch looks brilliant but the system had actually had nearly 10 months to build up that library.

Good games! Klonoa is a great platformer.