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@Antraxx777

That kind of proves the point though. You’ve gone back 26 years, and that wasn’t really the launch. By the time DC came out in the West it has been building a library for 10 months.

Original Xbox was the last one that really impressed me, and that was three generations ago. That was the exception really.

@outsider83

That might be your perception but there was a huge amount of scepticism about the Switch probably until the end of 2018. The comments thread on here after the original Switch broadcast in January 2017 being a prime example (I was among the doubtful).

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/01/feature_the_big_nintendo_switch_presentation_summary

https://www.nintendolife.com/features/talking-point-remember-when-people-thought-switch-would-fail

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/01/feature_heres_what_was_announced_during_the_january_2018_nintendo_direct_mini

https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2017-nintendo-switch-review

https://www.newrisingmedia.com/blog/2016/10/21/why-the-nintendo-switch-is-set-up-for-failure

@TheBigK

Who’s inflating the number? The analyst firm that came up with it?

@outsider83

Not at this point in its life it wasn’t. The Switch library at this stage was 2 Wii U games and ARMS, with third party support very thin on the ground. This site was full of people proclaiming it would drop after 5 million, 10 million, 20….no 30 million.

Not interested in Bubsy or FF at all but will give Mario and Wario a try, never played it. To me it’s a really good thing that these oddities are coming to the NSO platforms rather than just the same big names.

Not surprised. Very nice hardware, upgraded loads of Switch 1 owners libraries, a very solid release schedule from Nintendo*, a cluster of impressive third party games new to Nintendo players, and it all feels like a generational leap.

*7 first party retail games 4 of which are completely exclusive, 2 exclusive Eshop games, a couple of Switch 2 editions with extra content. All within 6 months of launch

@OmnitronVariant

What I mean is I don’t just watch them once, or go and look at a painting once. To me they’re something to be enjoyed over and over. If technology can improve the experience, great.

It’s absolutely impossible for me to conjure up any sort of sympathy here

@OmnitronVariant

Loads hopefully. Games aren’t one and done for me. I treat Games like I do music, books, films etc

Yes as I got the physical for £43. Decent upgrades graphically if nothing Earth shattering, and not having to waggle a Wii remote constantly is an obvious plus. The controls for Yoshi took a little bit of getting used to but they work better for the ball rolling. Well worth the money, especially as my 8-year-old is loving the games.

@WiltonRoots

I lost count of the number of times on here sales of the OG Switch had gone off that cliff. Because evil Nintendo had messed it up.

But also that it being in short supply was evil Nintendo either doing it to create false scarcity, or badly misunderestimating demand.

So apparently ‘product being available in shops’ now means ‘product is selling badly.’

Honestly….

A nice upgrade but nothing earth shattering as expected. The banding of the sky is oddly irritating.

Using the Joycon gyro to control Yoshi in SMG2 was a bit trying at first but getting into it now.

Definitely got this on the metaphorical watch list once there’s a Switch 2 version. I’m really surprised there isn’t one yet but it’s hard to be too critical of third parties when Nintendos tardiness with developer kits is well known.

@nuke13

Reviewers can bring it up but it’s pointless. Nobody will be making a purchasing decision based on what somebody they don’t know on the Internet says, whether a reviewer or someone commenting under the review.

FYI Mario All Stars would cost $134.52 adjusted for inflation now. Even the Wii ROM on a disc rerelease would be $44.57. Whether them prices matter to you, whether those games have any relevance to you, whether the price of Pikmin 1&2 matters to me in relation to Mario Galaxy….all subjective.

@nuke13

It’s totally pointless. You might think it’s terrible value. The reviewer might think it’s decent value. A reviewer on a different site will think it’s amazing value. I might think it’s fair to good value. Then there’s people who will think it’s good value because they got a discount on a physical. There will be people who have never played it before who think its great value. All of these people earn different amounts, have different compulsory outgoings, different gaming spending budgets and different gaming time budgets. They’re all making a different calculation, so how can any one reviewer speak to them about value? It’s all totally subjective. You yourself use ‘fair to bad price’ which is your own totally subjective opinion, not a statement of fact or a reference to base any review on. It doesn’t work.

@MrGawain

There’s absolutely no way to accurately reference price in a review as value is entirely subjective

The bundle with the plush toys looks ok on the surface, except it’s £56.85 to pre order the game on Shopto and the toys are £15.99 on the Game/Frasers/Sports Direct website.

Never heard of this. Cool to see stuff like this being released, even though I won’t be buying it.

@Ironcore

You can literally see from the comments in this thread that some people will buy a game if it’s 30. Just because you won’t doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be allowed to as you said in post 25. This is just reality I’m afraid.

How impressively vague. 10 words to tell us nothing.

@sixrings

There’s no better or worse, there’s just personal preference

@Johnny_Arthur

This isn’t an official Nintendo site. Plenty of people are surprised that a PS5 game is running well on portable hardware. Nobody is going to get sacked for such an inoffensive statement.

@Truegamer79

People are entitled to their own opinions about pricing. If something doesn’t represent good value to them so be it. Being critical about others purchasing decisions is pointless, they can decide what to do with their own money.

@sixrings

That’s easy. I’m 48, I’ve been playing games for 41 years and I don’t judge my enjoyment of a games system by the frame rate of some of the games.

Hard to get too excited about these though Undercover could do with an update. Nice change for a Nintendo system to be getting back catalogue improvements though.

@Sabruka

Yes it is. It’s a Nintendo site and this is an update to Nintendos games system. Not interested? Don’t read it.

@Ironcore

You’re entitled to do what you want with your money. However your idea of ‘better’ is meaningless to anyone else to everyone but you. I won’t be buying it, you don’t have to do it, but the idea that you are sone arbiter of standards who will persuade others to think the same way as you is, to say the least, unrealistic.

@mikegamer

Third party support is all over the place in terms of quality. Hopefully it’ll settle down if sales continue to be good and Nintendo get enough dev kits out.

@Ironcore

‘Low standards’ is subjective. The only say you have is what to do with your money. Same with everyone else.

@rvcolem1

I realise you’re probably right I’m just clinging to hope 😂 I thought SOR 4 looked ropey at first and that turned out great. Maybe I’ll just play the first two again….

@Ironcore

It’s their money….

@Ironcore

It only doesn’t run “properly” to you. It’s clear from this comments section alone that there are people who are fine with it. So let them be fine with it, you can just skip it.

Just played an hour of Klonoa and it really is excellent

@UltimateOtaku91

It certainly seems likely that digital only is the way of the future. No doubt it’s what the industry wants.

I don’t mind people objecting to GKC or anything else, they’re the consumer and it’s their money. It only gets toxic when a small number of people who are convinced their own opinion is right try and tell others that they’re wrong to decide differently how to spend their own money.

The other thing for me is NL need to be careful. They’re merrily stoking the GKC controversy for easy clicks (and this post will probably get deleted for saying that) but the risk is posters who don’t care as much as the zealots and/or are bored of it can find Nintendo news elsewhere.

@rvcolem1

Yeah I’m with you on that. Really don’t know what to make of it

@Ironcore

“Dont release the game at all”

That makes no sense. If you don’t want to buy it fine but why deprive others?

@Chlocean

It absolutely does. Portables have always been a bit behind tethered systems and there was never any reason to think Switch 2 would be any different.

I don’t understand why in this situation they don’t give consumers the choice. Three choices in fact with theirs one being to drop the resolution as low as required to get a locked 60.

Super Circuit really isn’t that popular eh? Shane as I’ve always really liked that one. Controversially I prefer it to the GameCube one which I never really got on with. Very strong selection overall though and a handy reminder of what a good library the GBA has.

@Segakid

Thanks. Is that a good starting point then?

Looks nice. Never got into this series, think it’s time I gave it another try.

Amusing to see people blaming the system (one that runs far more demanding games than this successfully) rather than the developers or Nintendos stupid failure to get Dev kits out in time.

@The_Nintendo_Pedant

I don’t want to minimise anything. I haven’t said anything that would even suggest that. That’s in your head. If you or anyone else wants to campaign against them do so. It isn’t me who’s reduced (unpleasantly and ironically) to accusing others that think differently on this particular issue as having a ‘throne of majoritarian self-superiority.’

@BBBBBBBBBBB

Yeah I agree with a lot of that. They’re definitely a way to ensure retail visibility. The industry would love to move to all digital but can’t afford to ignore that portion of the market that buys gifts and also likes to trade in/resell. It achieves that and encourages third party support by reducing their margins, so even if sales are slightly down compared to a physical the ROI is higher. I’d be curious to know if retailer margins are any better for these. You may be completely right about it meaning retailers can turnover games quicker, if it’s right a lot of retailers will be pleased with them as well. I think if Nintendo can manage it an affordable lower capacity cart for smaller games I think that would solve a lot of the issues, but for a lot of games they’re here to stay.

@The_Nintendo_Pedant

You need to be clear on which bit (among the things I actually said) you have an issue with

There’s always the risk that old game don’t hold up but no worries here. These are both still really good games.

@Ultimapunch

It’s a great move for companies. Though the price thing is hard to measure, looking at UK prices some have dropped quickly. We don’t know whether the lower manufacturing cost has led to quicker discounts. You’re right about a digital future though, I hope nobody boycotting GKC complains when all-digital inevitably happens.

@The_Nintendo_Pedant

You have a problem with mathematical accuracy?

@PinderSchloss

I’m going to say no. Which is astonishingly poor on Nintendos part.