“ Sell the product properly, full physical or full digital, no BS in between”
Er no. If you want to buy the games digital you do so. If you don’t want to buy the games but want to endlessly relentlessly complain about the criteria you’ve set for not buying them, do so. But don’t reduce choice for the rest of us. I don’t want an all digital future and GKC help stave that off.
Seems to be averaging about 8 out of 10. Pretty much what I would expect from a Mario Tennis game, they’ve never been killer titles. I’ll pick it up at some point.
Looks hugely impressive on Switch 2. Nintendo/Nvidia have done a superb job. The gap between S2 and the tethered systems is so small portability becomes the deciding factor for me
I can make peace with GKC. They can be shared, they can be traded in and resold. I can believe that there is a substantial cost saving for the publisher going for a GKC instead of a 64GB card so they help encourage third party support to come to Switch 2.
However I don’t believe there’s much difference between manufacturing a CIAB v a GKC. The box is the same so the distribution costs are identical. In a world of GKCs there is no reason at all for CIAB to exist.
Code in a box is the absolute worst. Far worse than GKC by any measure. So I’ll pass on those two unless I see a very deep sale on the digital at some point.
CIAB shouldn’t be allowed. It’s a waste of plastic.
Weirdly I’m hoping for an onslaught of Xbox games. Get Doom the Dark Ages, Psychonauts, Forza Horizon, Halo, Killer Instinct, Starfield, Diablo IV, Flight Sim and all the rest on there
Keeping up the very consistent pace of releases they’ve managed so far. Obviously there are big hitters missing but Nintendo have obviously learned from Switch 1 and know they need to keep the content coming.
Particularly impressive as they’ve been shifted with-apart from Mario Kart-Nintendo steering clear of their biggest system sellers in favour of quite a quirky, leftfield line up. Donkey Kong, Kirby Air Riders, Drag and Drive and Metroid Prime have their fans but it’s mainly likely to be hardcore Nintendo fans interested in those.
Third party support has been good and Nintendo has a lot announced for 2026 and so many inevitable huge releases in the future so hopefully the momentum keeps going.
Nintendo ready has plenty announced for this year (Mario Tennis, Splatoon Raiders, Pokémon Pokopia, Tomodachi Life, Rhythm Heaven, Yoshi, Fire Emblem) so this isn’t too surprising. Hopefully we’ll see evidence that Nintendo has caught up with Dev kit distribution. Third party support has been good so far but I’m hoping for more from the likes of Xbox
To those of us who lived through the N64, Wii U and (to a lesser but still significant extent) eras it’s amazing to see third party support like Switch 2 is getting
We really are. I have a Series X and a PS5 and a 4K 120HZ TV and I’m fine with Switch 2. In fact the flexibility of the latter now far outweighs the graphical improvements seen elsewhere for me.
I know Nintendo have upset a few people with their weirdness recently, using a string of leftfield releases to launch Switch 2 rather than their mainstream big names. I also know they’ve duplicated Mario 64 across retail and NSO but this still seems unlikely to me. Pikmin 2 is already available on the Eshop and Metroid Prime Remaster was at 1.36 million 18 months ago meaning a decent chance of profit from a sequel.
That said, these being a weird choice of games makes it seem believable, Nintendo being Nintendo….
They will release new AC games, the updates are just schedule fillers to pick up a few quid from stragglers who haven’t bought them yet and those willing to buy the upgrade. New AC, Zelda, Mario etc is how they make their money. They’re the biggest profit drivers for them.
As for new games, Nintendo have released 5 Switch 2 exclusives along with distinct Switch 2 versions of two new games. They have 6 more Switch 2 exclusives already announced. Not many are system sellers but that’s a good thing to me as a Nintendo fan. I like it when they go a bit more leftfield.
Oh I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind. I’m just at the other end of the scale where I want more upgrades. Some have been minor but others like TOTK, Links Awakening, Bowsers Fury, Captain Toad (2 player via Gameshare) have been transformative. Anyway, all opinions isn’t it? Take care.
I’m expecting some people to complain that these upgrades aren’t free enough. If these upgrades hadn’t happened there would be a different set of people (or possibly some of the same people) complaining that Nintendo hadn’t upgraded their games. You can see why Nintendo just does its own thing.
Fair enough holding that opinion, but the polls should tell you you’re very much in the minority.
People upgrade PCs, Consoles, Phones, Tablets, TVs etc all the time and one of the main draws is their old content running better and/or faster. Gaming in particular benefits from this more than other forms of entertainment. Buyers don’t have to lose access to their old library and Games aren’t just left in the past, just as with other forms of entertainment. In the case of Switch 2, it already has 5 exclusives and another 6 planned for this year just from what we know about. Upgrades are just an addition to that.
Probably nothing. Would be a Nintendo surprise in the classic fashion to release a non-portable Switch 2 model though. The system is powerful enough to justify it. Would be much cheaper and could generate some sales from consumers not bothered about portability.
Of course the big hitters will release, they always do. That’s how they make money. Nintendo won’t be expecting to move the casual user base over quickly, it happens over time (e.g.PS5). I’ve seen absolutely nothing to suggest Nintendo sees S2 editions as new games, and they all offer upgrade paths anyway, many of them free.
You’re extrapolating ‘things you care about’ into ‘reasons it will fail’
I’ve no idea what you’re so upset about this but Switch 2 is doing great. It’s the fastest selling system of all time at a tricky time for the industry and with Nintendo still to launch the vast majority of their big hitters. Nintendo won’t be panicking, it’s all going to plan.
Very well said. Doom sells though, especially to an audience that contains a significant number of people desperate to pretend Switch 2 is failing for some reason.
You would hope that, given it’s their primary product and facilitate sales of their other primary product (software) they’d have a plan for the foreseeable. It’s going to be difficult to avoid at some point if demand remains as high as it currently is, so they need to keep a steady pace of new releases (Nintendo have 5 Switch 2 exclusives lined up this year off the top of my head) and upgrades of Switch 1 games, while hoping third party support strengthens further. They’ve got the hardware very right, it’s excellent, keep the software coming.
OTOH they aren’t particularly in a rush, they aren’t looking to move the entire Switch 1 user base over immediately and sales have been exceptionally strong so far. Nintendo aren’t usually ones to panic and I doubt the current climate will see them do so.
“overall sales for 2025 were actually up by by 6% compared to the Switch (which was also released a full 14 weeks earlier too, by the way)”
“The Switch 2 is doing remarkably well, then, and has already nailed the record as the fastest-selling console of all time”
So things are going pretty well then?
Switch 1 in that period had new Zelda, Splatoon and 3D Mario along with a Mario Kart that was new to most people. Switch 2 only really has one of thei big hitters (Mario Kart). The rest of the Switch 2 line up is great for the hardcore Nintendo fan and those who like to see Nintendo experiment a bit but the casual audience won’t get excited by Metroid or Kirby Air Riders.
Funny to see people on here thinking this will lead to a change of course or a price drop (with current memory prices this is a fantasy). Nintendo will probably be looking at the big picture and say they’re executing the plan nicely.
Hope he enjoys his retirement, seems to have done a very solid job for Nintendo. Not a ‘personality’ like his predecessor which is important in the Social Media age but the results are there.
As I said back in June it was time to move on. 6 months with Switch 2 has done nothing to change that. Apart from battery life which is understandable given the power difference, everything about Switch 2 is an upgrade. Still got a Switch 1 and it’s really hard to go back to the tiny joycons, slower loading times and inferior graphics.
Handy to keep around to play Retro games on where there’s no upgrade but that’s about it. Switch 1 is my favourite system of all time but things move on and Switch 2 is a proper generational leap.
Again, that underestimates the power of convenience. Ever since the Gameboy launched Nintendo have had no issues selling massive numbers of portable systems. All those systems have been missing many of the big third party games of the day. The absence of Tomb Raider, Grand Theft Auto, Call of Duty or whatever it may be hasn’t been an issue. Of course losing their exclusives would have an impact but portability is a huge factor for many.
They’d go third party, 100%. They only exist to make money whether it be Video games, Gaming hardware, Hanafuda cards, love hotels or whatever the means to that end is.
I think you’d be surprised how many people value convenience over a power difference that needs YouTube videos to explain to the average punter these days
Whether to keep games exclusive comes down to a value calculation. Would the money made from sales elsewhere outweigh the losses that inevitably follow when hardware sells drop and then third party revenue and peripheral sales drop? The bigger the sales as exclusives the harder it is to make that maths work. That’s before you get to the intangible value of things like brand loyalty. For Nintendo exclusives on their own hardware make so much sense it’s hard at this stage to see that ever changing.
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Re: Round Up: The Previews Are In For Pokémon Pokopia
@jojobar
The only change if GKC disappear will be more games going digital only
Re: Round Up: The Previews Are In For Pokémon Pokopia
@Anti-Matter
“ Sell the product properly, full physical or full digital, no BS in between”
Er no. If you want to buy the games digital you do so. If you don’t want to buy the games but want to endlessly relentlessly complain about the criteria you’ve set for not buying them, do so. But don’t reduce choice for the rest of us. I don’t want an all digital future and GKC help stave that off.
Re: Round Up: The Previews Are In For Pokémon Pokopia
@Skunkfish
Re: Round Up: The Previews Are In For Pokémon Pokopia
Ok I’m more interested than I was. Not really my thing but it sounds like it could genuinely be good. Reviews will be key now.
Re: Review: Mario Tennis Fever (Switch 2) - Slim For Singles, But An Addictive Core Gives It Online Legs
@NolandC
It’s got a Metascore of 77 so an 8/10 is entirely typical
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Mario Tennis Fever
Seems to be averaging about 8 out of 10. Pretty much what I would expect from a Mario Tennis game, they’ve never been killer titles. I’ll pick it up at some point.
Re: Video: Pragmata Demo Side-By-Side Graphics Comparison (Switch 2, Xbox Series S, PS5)
Looks hugely impressive on Switch 2. Nintendo/Nvidia have done a superb job. The gap between S2 and the tethered systems is so small portability becomes the deciding factor for me
Re: Oblivion, Skyrim And Fallout Switch 2 Physicals Will All Be Code-In-A-Box, Bethesda Confirms
@HalBailman
This is where I find CIAB so egregious.
I can make peace with GKC. They can be shared, they can be traded in and resold. I can believe that there is a substantial cost saving for the publisher going for a GKC instead of a 64GB card so they help encourage third party support to come to Switch 2.
However I don’t believe there’s much difference between manufacturing a CIAB v a GKC. The box is the same so the distribution costs are identical. In a world of GKCs there is no reason at all for CIAB to exist.
Re: Oblivion, Skyrim And Fallout Switch 2 Physicals Will All Be Code-In-A-Box, Bethesda Confirms
@Yosher
Where was I hounding you? I replied to your post.
Re: Oblivion, Skyrim And Fallout Switch 2 Physicals Will All Be Code-In-A-Box, Bethesda Confirms
@Yosher
CIAB is far worse than GKC. No resale value and an absolutely pointless waste of plastic.
Re: Oblivion, Skyrim And Fallout Switch 2 Physicals Will All Be Code-In-A-Box, Bethesda Confirms
@midnitet0ker
These are Microsoft games
Re: Oblivion, Skyrim And Fallout Switch 2 Physicals Will All Be Code-In-A-Box, Bethesda Confirms
Code in a box is the absolute worst. Far worse than GKC by any measure. So I’ll pass on those two unless I see a very deep sale on the digital at some point.
CIAB shouldn’t be allowed. It’s a waste of plastic.
Re: Nintendo Direct Partner Showcase February 2026: Every Announcement, Game Reveal, Trailer
Not the best but it’s amazing as someone who’s been a Nintendo fan for more than 5 minutes to see this much third party support
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Direct February Partner Predictions - What Do You Want To See?
Weirdly I’m hoping for an onslaught of Xbox games. Get Doom the Dark Ages, Psychonauts, Forza Horizon, Halo, Killer Instinct, Starfield, Diablo IV, Flight Sim and all the rest on there
Re: Nintendo's Share Price Drops 11% Following Its Financial Release
Ah, the corrupt gambling arena that all us poor working people are subjugated by
Re: Nintendo Reconfirms Release Windows For Major Upcoming Switch 2 Games
Keeping up the very consistent pace of releases they’ve managed so far. Obviously there are big hitters missing but Nintendo have obviously learned from Switch 1 and know they need to keep the content coming.
Re: Switch 2 Storms Towards Its Forecast Target With 17.37 Million Units Sold
Absolutely amazing figures.
Particularly impressive as they’ve been shifted with-apart from Mario Kart-Nintendo steering clear of their biggest system sellers in favour of quite a quirky, leftfield line up. Donkey Kong, Kirby Air Riders, Drag and Drive and Metroid Prime have their fans but it’s mainly likely to be hardcore Nintendo fans interested in those.
Third party support has been good and Nintendo has a lot announced for 2026 and so many inevitable huge releases in the future so hopefully the momentum keeps going.
Re: Poll: What Nintendo Switch 2 Games Are You Most Excited For In 2026?
Looking forward to
Mario Tennis
Yoshi
Fire Emblem
Pragmata
Mina the Hollower
Interested in the Mario Wonder and thoroughly intrigued by the idea of a single player Splatoon game. Rhythm Heaven is a maybe too
Re: Rumour: A Nintendo Direct May Be Coming As Soon As Next Week
Nintendo ready has plenty announced for this year (Mario Tennis, Splatoon Raiders, Pokémon Pokopia, Tomodachi Life, Rhythm Heaven, Yoshi, Fire Emblem) so this isn’t too surprising. Hopefully we’ll see evidence that Nintendo has caught up with Dev kit distribution. Third party support has been good so far but I’m hoping for more from the likes of Xbox
Re: GDC Survey Shows Switch 2 Is Proving To Be A Desirable Platform For Developers
Impressive numbers.
To those of us who lived through the N64, Wii U and (to a lesser but still significant extent) eras it’s amazing to see third party support like Switch 2 is getting
Re: Poll: So, Will You Be Getting Tomodachi Life: Living The Dream For Switch?
Not for me, but nice to see excitement around it and I hope those who do get it have a great time
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers Its Tech Review Of Grid Legends On Switch 2
@Discostew
We really are. I have a Series X and a PS5 and a 4K 120HZ TV and I’m fine with Switch 2. In fact the flexibility of the latter now far outweighs the graphical improvements seen elsewhere for me.
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers Its Tech Review Of Grid Legends On Switch 2
Always going to be 60 FPS in a racer for me
Re: NYXI's Hyperion 3 Is, On Paper, The Perfect Joy-Con 2 Alternative
I don’t have nearly enough issues with the Official Joy Con 2 to warrant £125 for this
Re: Rumour: Switch Online GameCube Releases Might Have Been Leaked
I know Nintendo have upset a few people with their weirdness recently, using a string of leftfield releases to launch Switch 2 rather than their mainstream big names. I also know they’ve duplicated Mario 64 across retail and NSO but this still seems unlikely to me. Pikmin 2 is already available on the Eshop and Metroid Prime Remaster was at 1.36 million 18 months ago meaning a decent chance of profit from a sequel.
That said, these being a weird choice of games makes it seem believable, Nintendo being Nintendo….
Re: Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment Surpasses 1 Million Copies Sold
Thats a great result for this game. Well deserved too.
Re: PSA: Switch 2 Visual And Performance Improvements Included In New Rocket League Update
Seems a decent upgrade but I was hoping for a 120FPS mode
Re: Random: Mario Wonder's New Box Art Might Be The Ugliest 'Switch 2 Edition' Cover Yet
That’s truly awful
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade On Switch 2
Another excellent port
Re: Video: Nintendo Highlights Enhanced Switch Games On Switch 2
@BanjoPickles
They will release new AC games, the updates are just schedule fillers to pick up a few quid from stragglers who haven’t bought them yet and those willing to buy the upgrade. New AC, Zelda, Mario etc is how they make their money. They’re the biggest profit drivers for them.
As for new games, Nintendo have released 5 Switch 2 exclusives along with distinct Switch 2 versions of two new games. They have 6 more Switch 2 exclusives already announced. Not many are system sellers but that’s a good thing to me as a Nintendo fan. I like it when they go a bit more leftfield.
Re: Video: Nintendo Highlights Enhanced Switch Games On Switch 2
@Coffee-Waffle
Oh I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind. I’m just at the other end of the scale where I want more upgrades. Some have been minor but others like TOTK, Links Awakening, Bowsers Fury, Captain Toad (2 player via Gameshare) have been transformative. Anyway, all opinions isn’t it? Take care.
(Still waiting for my Wave Race update! 😉)
Re: Video: Nintendo Highlights Enhanced Switch Games On Switch 2
@Johnny44
I’m expecting some people to complain that these upgrades aren’t free enough. If these upgrades hadn’t happened there would be a different set of people (or possibly some of the same people) complaining that Nintendo hadn’t upgraded their games. You can see why Nintendo just does its own thing.
Re: Video: Nintendo Highlights Enhanced Switch Games On Switch 2
@Coffee-Waffle
Fair enough holding that opinion, but the polls should tell you you’re very much in the minority.
People upgrade PCs, Consoles, Phones, Tablets, TVs etc all the time and one of the main draws is their old content running better and/or faster. Gaming in particular benefits from this more than other forms of entertainment. Buyers don’t have to lose access to their old library and Games aren’t just left in the past, just as with other forms of entertainment. In the case of Switch 2, it already has 5 exclusives and another 6 planned for this year just from what we know about. Upgrades are just an addition to that.
Re: Mystery Product Code Sparks Rumours Of A New Switch 2 Model
@Woodyshoe
I’ve got an 8-year-old and an 11-year-old who got the Switch 2 for Christmas and they’re just fine with the size.
Re: Mystery Product Code Sparks Rumours Of A New Switch 2 Model
Probably nothing. Would be a Nintendo surprise in the classic fashion to release a non-portable Switch 2 model though. The system is powerful enough to justify it. Would be much cheaper and could generate some sales from consumers not bothered about portability.
Re: Review: Animal Crossing: New Horizons - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition - A Cheap Upgrade, But Lacking Substance
Not a big AC player myself so no interest in this. My wife is much more into it but also has no interest, doesn’t sound like there’s much to it.
My Switch 2 backlog is huge as it is, I don’t need to add for the sake of it so I’ll pass
Re: Nintendo's Investors Are Reportedly "Spooked" As Stock Slides
@Paulo
Of course the big hitters will release, they always do. That’s how they make money. Nintendo won’t be expecting to move the casual user base over quickly, it happens over time (e.g.PS5). I’ve seen absolutely nothing to suggest Nintendo sees S2 editions as new games, and they all offer upgrade paths anyway, many of them free.
You’re extrapolating ‘things you care about’ into ‘reasons it will fail’
Re: Nintendo's Investors Are Reportedly "Spooked" As Stock Slides
@Paulo
I’ve no idea what you’re so upset about this but Switch 2 is doing great. It’s the fastest selling system of all time at a tricky time for the industry and with Nintendo still to launch the vast majority of their big hitters. Nintendo won’t be panicking, it’s all going to plan.
Re: Nintendo's Investors Are Reportedly "Spooked" As Stock Slides
@HalBailman
Very well said. Doom sells though, especially to an audience that contains a significant number of people desperate to pretend Switch 2 is failing for some reason.
Re: Nintendo's Investors Are Reportedly "Spooked" As Stock Slides
The tide goes in, the tide goes out, Nintendo just carries on. That was a bubble in August and now it’s, well, probably a good time to buy stock.
Re: Nintendo's President Remains Coy On Potential Price Increases
You would hope that, given it’s their primary product and facilitate sales of their other primary product (software) they’d have a plan for the foreseeable. It’s going to be difficult to avoid at some point if demand remains as high as it currently is, so they need to keep a steady pace of new releases (Nintendo have 5 Switch 2 exclusives lined up this year off the top of my head) and upgrades of Switch 1 games, while hoping third party support strengthens further. They’ve got the hardware very right, it’s excellent, keep the software coming.
OTOH they aren’t particularly in a rush, they aren’t looking to move the entire Switch 1 user base over immediately and sales have been exceptionally strong so far. Nintendo aren’t usually ones to panic and I doubt the current climate will see them do so.
Re: Switch 2 Sales Reportedly Struggled Over The Christmas Period
“overall sales for 2025 were actually up by by 6% compared to the Switch (which was also released a full 14 weeks earlier too, by the way)”
“The Switch 2 is doing remarkably well, then, and has already nailed the record as the fastest-selling console of all time”
So things are going pretty well then?
Switch 1 in that period had new Zelda, Splatoon and 3D Mario along with a Mario Kart that was new to most people. Switch 2 only really has one of thei big hitters (Mario Kart). The rest of the Switch 2 line up is great for the hardcore Nintendo fan and those who like to see Nintendo experiment a bit but the casual audience won’t get excited by Metroid or Kirby Air Riders.
Funny to see people on here thinking this will lead to a change of course or a price drop (with current memory prices this is a fantasy). Nintendo will probably be looking at the big picture and say they’re executing the plan nicely.
Re: Today Is Doug Bowser's Final Day As Nintendo Of America President
Hope he enjoys his retirement, seems to have done a very solid job for Nintendo. Not a ‘personality’ like his predecessor which is important in the Social Media age but the results are there.
Re: Feature: Farewell, Nintendo Switch - It's Finally Time To Bid Our Old Friend 'Adieu'
As I said back in June it was time to move on. 6 months with Switch 2 has done nothing to change that. Apart from battery life which is understandable given the power difference, everything about Switch 2 is an upgrade. Still got a Switch 1 and it’s really hard to go back to the tiny joycons, slower loading times and inferior graphics.
Handy to keep around to play Retro games on where there’s no upgrade but that’s about it. Switch 1 is my favourite system of all time but things move on and Switch 2 is a proper generational leap.
Re: Pikmin 3 Deluxe Nintendo Switch 2 Rating Pops Up Online
Mouse controls, game share, and a significant resolution boost please. 720p on Switch 1 wasn’t the best effort.
Re: "If Mario Starts To Show Up On PlayStation, That's The Apocalypse, Right?" - Ex-PlayStation Boss Thinks Console Exclusives Are Still Important
@Grumblevolcano
Again, that underestimates the power of convenience. Ever since the Gameboy launched Nintendo have had no issues selling massive numbers of portable systems. All those systems have been missing many of the big third party games of the day. The absence of Tomb Raider, Grand Theft Auto, Call of Duty or whatever it may be hasn’t been an issue. Of course losing their exclusives would have an impact but portability is a huge factor for many.
Re: "If Mario Starts To Show Up On PlayStation, That's The Apocalypse, Right?" - Ex-PlayStation Boss Thinks Console Exclusives Are Still Important
@TheBigK
They’d go third party, 100%. They only exist to make money whether it be Video games, Gaming hardware, Hanafuda cards, love hotels or whatever the means to that end is.
Re: "If Mario Starts To Show Up On PlayStation, That's The Apocalypse, Right?" - Ex-PlayStation Boss Thinks Console Exclusives Are Still Important
@Gamecuber
I think you’d be surprised how many people value convenience over a power difference that needs YouTube videos to explain to the average punter these days
Re: "If Mario Starts To Show Up On PlayStation, That's The Apocalypse, Right?" - Ex-PlayStation Boss Thinks Console Exclusives Are Still Important
Whether to keep games exclusive comes down to a value calculation. Would the money made from sales elsewhere outweigh the losses that inevitably follow when hardware sells drop and then third party revenue and peripheral sales drop? The bigger the sales as exclusives the harder it is to make that maths work. That’s before you get to the intangible value of things like brand loyalty. For Nintendo exclusives on their own hardware make so much sense it’s hard at this stage to see that ever changing.
Re: Talking Point: Does Switch 2 Have Nintendo's Best Launch Line-Up Ever?
@Dalamar
….or old people with (shock horror) a different opinion