electrolite77

@Coffee-Waffle

Wii U just wasn’t a good idea and the software was sparse for most of its life. Switch 2 is https://www.polygon.com/nintendo-switch-2-biggest-console-launch-10-million/

@Coffee-Waffle

The Wii U didn’t sell because it was awful. A confused mess that was very slow to build a software library. The Switch 2 is hugely successful because it has anyone of the same problems.

@progx

Yeah I’m not in the US but I hear the complaints about the economy. In Europe the PS5 got heavy discounts and hugely outsold the Switch 2 but you’d expect a system right at what should be at its peak to do so.

I just find the takes on here that Switch 2 is struggling to be utterly surreal. Completely divorced from reality.

This Comments thread is absolute comedy gold. Sales in one territory have dropped because of Trade War-induced price rises and Xbox tanking. Some seem to have taken that as Switch 2 failing because of Game Key cards and needing a ‘wake up call.’ Despite Switch 2 being the biggest selling system worldwide in October and estimating 1.5 million+ sales in November…..

@PikminMarioKirby

It isn’t selling poorly. Quite the opposite. Record breaking so. You are wildly overstating the importance of your own personal quibbles.

@rvcolem1

The reality of so many games having updates is why I can’t get emotional about whether Games are on physical media. It’s often the case that by the time they’ve been published they’re incomplete anyway.

@FredsBodyDouble

You might be willing to pay that, but how many would? In the world of Game Pass, Netflix, Apple Arcade etc? I I know I wouldn’t and I don’t think GKC are going to be an issue for the mass market.

More options is always a good thing, however in reality I can’t see any smaller cards being used very often.

The price of storage is going up so they’re not likely to be cheap. They won’t be suited to games that require fast read speeds. They won’t be suited to games bigger than 64GB.

Most publishers looking for mass market success will be unlikely to swallow a $10-15 cost increase over a GKC and won’t want to pass that on to consumers if competitors are sticking with GKC.

They could be of benefit to hardcore collectors, those who collect more than they actually play, but that’s a niche market. Maybe some publishers of smaller games can make use of them, maybe some special and collectors editions will use them. That would be very nice. I hope this happens.

I can’t believe they put this out on Switch 1 in the state they did.

Switch 2 should be able to run it reasonably well, being ahead of PS4, but I bet it doesn’t get to where it should be.

This is another hugely impressive Switch 2 port. I have a theory that the demise of Xbox will see more and more third parties bringing games to Switch 2 as the worst thing for them would be Sony having total domination.

@TomSupreme

It’s pretty bizarre. The idea of denying yourself games now because you might lose access to them (if you haven’t downloaded them) at some currently non-existent point in the future when you may not be alive seems pretty self defeating to me.

@dskatter

Good tip, I’ll give it a go on PS5 thanks

People getting upset about the number at the end of a positive review never fails to make me 🤣

Might give this a go but would like a proper demo first, played the Switch one and it was pretty bad.

@datamonkey

TBF they’ve just used the first 6 months of a new system to release DK Bananza, Drag X Drive, Kirby Air Riders and a new Hyrule Warriors. There were people (including me) praising them on here for being pretty leftfield in Switch 2’s first few months rather than just relying on the old staples.

On the one hand, not the greatest game ever, certainly no world beater. But on the other, exactly the type of thing I love to see added to NSO.

Everyone’s played the big games over and over, give us the slightly more left field stuff. This will be great fun for many people who can now try it without having to resort to inflated second hand prices. Good to see.

What on Earth are Bethesda thinking?!

This is going to drown under all the other third party software out there performing well, not to mention first party stuff. In the last week alone we’ve got Assassins Creed, Sonic Crossworlds, and Metroid Prime 4. Shovelling this onto the shelves just looks ridiculous.

Tonic Trouble is one of the few N64 games I have never played.

Anyone who’s never played Rayman 2 is in for a treat, very good platformer.

Not much of an update is it? Really needed 60 FOS to be worthwhile. Poor show.

@Bootlicker333

You still don’t get it. If other people like it, they like it. You calling them whatever is not going to change that. You seem to think you are objectively right. That is wrong.

@Bootlicker333

Redditor? Pokémon? ‘dont want to make the effort?’ What are you on about?

“ Nintendo is all about shares”

Always has been about profit. That’s why they exist..

“in 2 years people will forget about MP4”

Like everything else this is just opinion. You’re doing all this thrashing around and yelling at clouds rather than just accepting the reality that’s it’s all just opinions.

@Bootlicker333

“this game is 7 at best”

In your opinion

@Bootlicker333

10 doesn’t meant perfection.

If someone gives it a 10, that’s their opinion.

If someone gives it a 1, that’s their opinion.

@Bootlicker333

“You people still rate it 10/10 because you are 8 years old and dont have any selfrespect”

No it’s just people having different opinions to you.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/opinion

Haven’t played it yet. Very encouraged by the scores here though, seeing a lot of people Online enjoying it. Looking forward to getting some time with it.

@Suketoudara

“ am very happy with it, enjoying Nintendo taking risks with their franchises and leading with some more niche ones, even if it makes their games more polarising. I'll always take polarising Nintendo over safe Nintendo, their games lately really reminds me of GameCube era”

Totally agree.

9/10. Easy call really.

The hardware is great. I’d love better battery life but it’s way more of a leap from Switch 1 than I expected. The joy cons are also a big leap forward.

First party software is off to a good start. MKW, Donkey Kong and Hyrule Warriors are excellent exclusives (as is Fast Fusion though that third party. Some of the upgrades are superb-BOTW, TOTK, Bowsers Fury, Kirby and the Forgotten Land, and Links Awakening spring immediately to mind.

The real bonus has been Third Party support. Couldn’t care less about the Key Card Online hysteria. The likes of Hogwarts, Cyberpunk, Star Wars Outlaws, Red Dead Redemption, FC 26, Madden, No Man’s Sky, and from what I’ve seen WWE 2K25 and now Sonic Racing Crossworlds run at a close enough level to PS5/XSX that the portability tips the balance towards the Switch 2 versions being my preferred way to play. NS2 has become my Main Console while the other two get used less and less. Well played Nintendo.

@AussieMcBucket

The HDR sounds really good. Glad to see Nintendo/Retro nailing it.

@OmnitronVariant

1) Games don’t have to be exclusive to look good

2) There’s more than 3

About what I expected. Been on the fence about this but the reviews are selling it to me.

@Ganon821

That’s the same Nintendo that delayed the entire N64 to allow Miyamoto time to finish Mario 64

Not my thing but it looks good, and nice to see that extra development time being put to good use

Black Friday price cuts helping increase the Switch 2 shares of FC/Hogwarts/Cyberpunk sales is good to see.

Kirby was never going to do all that well. It’s a spin off and one that looks like an acquired (chaotic, motion sickness inducing) taste. I also think they’d have been better to drop the price a bit given that.

The other thing to bear in mind is sales of everything at this time of year are high. Landing outside the top ten in late November doesn’t mean the same as it does in February.

@romando

There isn’t much ‘room to improve’ without a higher selling price, which would be commercial lunacy.

A second very impressive port from Ubi Soft.

Didn’t see that coming.

This is as weird as when Bethesda were third party kings in the first few months and (apt comparison noted) squashed Doom 2016 into a Switch 1.

It’s a struggle now between the urge to support them and the wait for the inevitable price drops because they broke their own business model.

@Bobobiwan

That’s a great price 🙂

@BaldB3lper78

I think it’s disappointing in some ways, the port itself on S2 seems to have been phoned in, but also playing it in handheld at 60FPS is tremendous fun.

@AverageGamer

Oh give it a rest. People can spend their money however they want and it’s nothing to do with you or anyone else.

I can’t believe after however many years of Digital Foundry we’ve still got people complaining that a site solely set up to minutely analyse technical details is minutely analysing technical details. If you’re not interested in what they have to say, don’t read the article.

@ShadLink

It’s not a review it’s a technical analysis

That’s a nice update!

@Dang_69

Unless the game is 3 hours long in total what we’ve seen is literally “a tiny portion of the game”

@Dang_69

It’s a tiny portion of the game

Some of the hissy fitting going on over this when nobody has played more than an hour or so of the game is amazing

Don’t like the original, the Demo struck me as an improvement but nothing I want to spend £50 on. Also started to get a bit of motion sickness. So it’s a pass from me. Hope those who get it enjoy it.

@jfp

Thanks, I’ll have a watch

So am I right in thinking that the S2 version is basically the PS3 version running at a higher Res and frame rate?

Played it on PS4 and it’s a really excellent game. Might give it another go if we get a proper Switch 2 version.

Very welcome addition to the library though.

@NintendoWife

How everyone perceives value is different and subjective. If you think something is worth the asking price but they don’t they aren’t going to buy it.

@Aswannsong

I read that whole screed in the voice of Comic Book Guy from The Simpsons.

How do you know any of the people complaining about MP4 are fans of Marvel films?

I haven’t but only one of mine is connected via Ethernet.

I bet it’s an issue with the Switch 2 more than the dock. My Series X needed resetting a couple of times when I changed between signals last year and I’ve a Sky TV Puck that froze constantly when trying to Switch between Ethernet and WiFi.