Definitely agree on the GameCube comparison. I loved the GC launch period, I bought one on UK launch in May 2002, but it was definitely similar in how it stayed clear of A tier franchises. Melee did really well but Smash wasn’t actually a huge franchise coming off the back of the N64. Switch 2 at least has Mario kart but there’s a definite parallel between Luigi’s Mansion and DK Bananza.
I was discussing the Dreamcast launch with someone on here the other day and said how to me it’s slightly misleading. The Western launch looks brilliant but the system had actually had nearly 10 months to build up that library.
You got it right just there there. You actually illustrate how subjective it all is.
I have no interest in what value is attached to the GOW, Mass Effect or Tony Hawk packs are as I don’t want to play them. They could be the greatest remasters ever, they have zero value to me. The Crash remasters are of such high value to me I have them on PlayStation and Switch. Buying it twice would have seemed like lunacy to some but I find value in the portable option. You are totally entitled to think differently on all of this.
Halo is a great collection and I’ve got hours out of it. However to me it is irrelevant to whether I want to buy Mario Galaxy or anything else. So is my perception of how much work has gone into them. Whether I purchase something is entirely down to whether I think I will get value of it. Nothing else.
In the case of Galaxy I want them on Switch because being able to play them without waggling a Wiimote is-to me-an absolute joy. I was just going to get the digital but then I caught the physical option from a UK retailer at £43. With already having Mario 64 in various places and Sunshine on a modded GameCube I got for Christmas last year I’ll probably sell my physical copy of Mario 3D All Stars. See how subjective each decision is?
You and everyone else will have a totally different mental flowchart to follow. As a side issue, that’s the same with my friends who buy massively expensive sports cars/watches/trainers/handbags/collectors figures that I wouldn’t touch with a barge pole.
If you choose not to buy it I 100% support you. It would be extremely arrogant of me to judge you for that decision (not saying you’ve judged anyone else BTW, that’s an issue with others) and attempting to apply any other criteria to how you spend your money would be an exercise in total futility for me. I can’t think of a bigger waste of my time.
Not playing Devils Advocate. Just marvelling that in the year of our lord 2025, I’m still having to explain subjectivity to people who wrongly overstate the significance of their own opinion. And that I can find a form of words that avoids getting wildly offensive or resorting to violent graphic imagery as I almost roll my eyes out of my head.
I don’t have to, or need to, use anything such thing. I don’t know what the ‘average Joes finances’ are nor do I have to care, and I won’t be basing my purchasing decision on anything other than whether I want to buy it or not. You use your criteria for assessing value and others will do the same. It’s a subjective individual decision and that’s all it can ever be.
Need to see that Switch 2 version though. Hopefully this is more like the brilliant All Stars Racing Transformed than the underwhelming Team Sonic Racing.
“The idea that Nintendo has suddenly gotten greedy because Iwata and Reggie are gone is just non-sense. Nintendo has never been anyone's friend, even when Iwata was around”
Thank you! Glad someone else remembers the reality.
I won’t cry. I’ll vote with my wallet, and either buy it or not. Same as others. What I won’t do is accuse others of ‘inane purchasing/blind consumerism’ or ‘delusion coping’ for deciding what to do with their money. That would be really silly.
That is literally what everyone who chooses to buy or not buy this or anything else is doing. They may not vote the same way as you but that isn’t up to you. You only get to vote with one wallet.
Very well said. If somebody thinks this is too expensive for them, I totally agree. If somebody wants to buy it I agree with them too. It’s their opinion. But people throwing around phrases like ‘anti consumer’ around to describe an entertainment company pricing a product nobody needs and is not entitled to is crazy. So over the top.
I’m in Europe. Games like Halo 3, Gears of War 2, Last of Us. and Gran Turismo 5 were same day release dates. In the same year American Nintendo fans were starting Operation Rainfall Little Big Planet 2, Killzone 3, Uncharted 3, Infamous 2 and Forza Motorsport 4 saw worldwide releases completed in a week, something Nintendo managed with Skyward Sword while refusing to release the Rainfall games. Gears of War 3 was a simultaneous worldwide release. No campaign required.
The Sony comparison is interesting though as staggered release dates mattered less on PS3 with it not being region locked. Meanwhile 2011 Nintendo released the 3DS, region locking a handheld for the first time. Wii U was then region locked when XB1/PS4 was not.
That short gap is just down to Nintendo being woeful at releasing games in Europe back then and making us wait 3 years to get Mario 3. The original Japanese release dates were actually over 2 years apart.
See post 71 for what they were doing in the 2010s. I forgot refusing to launch games like Xenoblade in the US, the Circle Pad Pro farce, the Wii Mini, different proprietary plugs for charging their devices, not including a charger with the New 3DS, Amiibo launching with content locked behind some, NES and SNES Mini and the artificial scarcity of those, and the Nintendo Creators Program
As for the Wii U price it launched at £249 for the basic set (£269 in 2017 adjusted for inflation) and £299 for the Deluxe set (£322 in 2017 adjusted for inflation). Switch launched at £279.
I’m not sure why anyone would expect a new Mario game for the 40th anniversary when we haven’t got one before. Even Mario Galaxy 2 which released in the 25th anniversary year wasn’t billed as being part of any anniversary celebration-the anniversary release was Mario All Stars, a SNES ROM dumped onto a Wii disc.
They’d be even worse in 2D. This is a novelty thing where the peripheral really is required. It’s as far from essential as anyone can get so the price is neither here nor there. Funny though.
Reality is out of over 110 Nintendo games on Switch 13 were Wii U ports. Their schedule for the rest of the year is Mario Galaxy 2, Pokemon Z-A, Metroid Prime 4, Kirby Air Riders and Hyrule Warriors which is 4 new games. What they’ve announced for next year is all new too-Rhythm Heaven, Tomodachi Life, Splatoon Raiders, Mario Tennis, Yoshi, Fire Emblem and the two Pokemon games.
New Nintendo games-Mario Tennis, Yoshi, Fire Emblem. They’re releasing 5 games between now and year end, 4 of them new (including Hyrule Warriors). We also have a picture forming of next year with the three above plus Rhythm Heaven, Tomodachi Life, Splatoon Raiders, and 2 Pokemon games.
I was hoping for more third party support. Resident Evil Requiem is a big one though not really my thing.
I also liked that some stuff was just plain weird. Anyone who predicted the Virtual Boy is lying. A talking flower toy? Sure. Samus has a bike. They were rambling on about a marathon at one point. Very quirky.
I gave you several examples of what they were doing 10 years ago. If you want to go further back we can get to their antitrust cases, bullying of retailers and publishers, aggressive litigation, price fixing, artificial scarcity etc. They’ve never been any different.
There is no objective when it comes to value. It’s all subjective.
The majority of 100-something comments is totally irrelevant to anything.
Nintendo aren’t obligated to make anything attainable. Neither is any other entertainment company. They only answer to their profit margins and shareholders and they price to what they think will maximise those profits. This isn’t housing or heating or food, nobody needs it.
There’s no such thing as them objectively costing too much. Value is subjective. How are you measuring your belief that ‘the majority has spoken?’ Are you confusing 80 comments on a website with ‘a majority’ of something?
The cost of living crisis is irrelevant. These are Consumer goods that nobody needs to exist.
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Re: Super Mario Galaxy + Super Mario Galaxy 2 Gets A Seven-Minute Overview Trailer
@OrtadragoonX
Definitely agree on the GameCube comparison. I loved the GC launch period, I bought one on UK launch in May 2002, but it was definitely similar in how it stayed clear of A tier franchises. Melee did really well but Smash wasn’t actually a huge franchise coming off the back of the N64. Switch 2 at least has Mario kart but there’s a definite parallel between Luigi’s Mansion and DK Bananza.
I was discussing the Dreamcast launch with someone on here the other day and said how to me it’s slightly misleading. The Western launch looks brilliant but the system had actually had nearly 10 months to build up that library.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's GBA Library With Two More Titles
Good games! Klonoa is a great platformer.
Re: Opinion: NSO Subscribers Outside Key Markets Get Less, And Nintendo Should Fix That
@MyMemory
If you’re replying to post #37 there you may want to read it again.
Re: Review: Donkey Kong Bananza: DK Island & Emerald Rush (Switch 2) - DLC That's Ripe With Fun, But Could've Been More
@AllBLK
Some people will, some will get good value from this.
Re: Review: Donkey Kong Bananza: DK Island & Emerald Rush (Switch 2) - DLC That's Ripe With Fun, But Could've Been More
@PharoneTheGnome
“The same way that every add on to Super Smash Brothers was free”
Is this some really clever sarcasm?
Re: Review: Donkey Kong Bananza: DK Island & Emerald Rush (Switch 2) - DLC That's Ripe With Fun, But Could've Been More
Thanks for the review. Really enjoying the main game but you’ve helped me decide this isn’t for me. Especially that last bullet point.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Switch Comparison Video Makes Nintendo's Upgrades Clearer
@sixrings
“Anyways everyone can make their own decisions”
You got it right just there there. You actually illustrate how subjective it all is.
I have no interest in what value is attached to the GOW, Mass Effect or Tony Hawk packs are as I don’t want to play them. They could be the greatest remasters ever, they have zero value to me. The Crash remasters are of such high value to me I have them on PlayStation and Switch. Buying it twice would have seemed like lunacy to some but I find value in the portable option. You are totally entitled to think differently on all of this.
Halo is a great collection and I’ve got hours out of it. However to me it is irrelevant to whether I want to buy Mario Galaxy or anything else. So is my perception of how much work has gone into them. Whether I purchase something is entirely down to whether I think I will get value of it. Nothing else.
In the case of Galaxy I want them on Switch because being able to play them without waggling a Wiimote is-to me-an absolute joy. I was just going to get the digital but then I caught the physical option from a UK retailer at £43. With already having Mario 64 in various places and Sunshine on a modded GameCube I got for Christmas last year I’ll probably sell my physical copy of Mario 3D All Stars. See how subjective each decision is?
You and everyone else will have a totally different mental flowchart to follow. As a side issue, that’s the same with my friends who buy massively expensive sports cars/watches/trainers/handbags/collectors figures that I wouldn’t touch with a barge pole.
If you choose not to buy it I 100% support you. It would be extremely arrogant of me to judge you for that decision (not saying you’ve judged anyone else BTW, that’s an issue with others) and attempting to apply any other criteria to how you spend your money would be an exercise in total futility for me. I can’t think of a bigger waste of my time.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Switch Comparison Video Makes Nintendo's Upgrades Clearer
@NotASockPuppet
Eh? What image?
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Switch Comparison Video Makes Nintendo's Upgrades Clearer
@NotASockPuppet
Not playing Devils Advocate. Just marvelling that in the year of our lord 2025, I’m still having to explain subjectivity to people who wrongly overstate the significance of their own opinion. And that I can find a form of words that avoids getting wildly offensive or resorting to violent graphic imagery as I almost roll my eyes out of my head.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Switch Comparison Video Makes Nintendo's Upgrades Clearer
@sixrings
I don’t have to, or need to, use anything such thing. I don’t know what the ‘average Joes finances’ are nor do I have to care, and I won’t be basing my purchasing decision on anything other than whether I want to buy it or not. You use your criteria for assessing value and others will do the same. It’s a subjective individual decision and that’s all it can ever be.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Switch Comparison Video Makes Nintendo's Upgrades Clearer
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Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Switch Comparison Video Makes Nintendo's Upgrades Clearer
@NotASockPuppet
You’re still not getting it. It’s not for you to decide. ‘Frivolous’ isn’t a label you get to attach. You have absolutely no say.
Re: Sega Reignites Its Nintendo Rivalry In New Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Trailer
Superb advert.
Need to see that Switch 2 version though. Hopefully this is more like the brilliant All Stars Racing Transformed than the underwhelming Team Sonic Racing.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Switch Comparison Video Makes Nintendo's Upgrades Clearer
@Willo567
“The idea that Nintendo has suddenly gotten greedy because Iwata and Reggie are gone is just non-sense. Nintendo has never been anyone's friend, even when Iwata was around”
Thank you! Glad someone else remembers the reality.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Switch Comparison Video Makes Nintendo's Upgrades Clearer
@NotASockPuppet
I won’t cry. I’ll vote with my wallet, and either buy it or not. Same as others. What I won’t do is accuse others of ‘inane purchasing/blind consumerism’ or ‘delusion coping’ for deciding what to do with their money. That would be really silly.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Switch Comparison Video Makes Nintendo's Upgrades Clearer
@NotASockPuppet
“it's time to vote with your wallet”
That is literally what everyone who chooses to buy or not buy this or anything else is doing. They may not vote the same way as you but that isn’t up to you. You only get to vote with one wallet.
Re: Nintendo Showcases Every Switch And Switch 2 Direct Game In New Infographic
@jojobar
I’m sure anyone who cares can figure that out for themselves
Re: Nintendo Showcases Every Switch And Switch 2 Direct Game In New Infographic
15 thing I’m interested in, 8 only on Switch 2. All in the systems first year. Very good start.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Prices Are Live, And It's Sticker Shock Time
@kid_keo
Very well said. If somebody thinks this is too expensive for them, I totally agree. If somebody wants to buy it I agree with them too. It’s their opinion. But people throwing around phrases like ‘anti consumer’ around to describe an entertainment company pricing a product nobody needs and is not entitled to is crazy. So over the top.
Re: Nintendo Is "Acting To Protect The Industry" With Switch 2 Game Key Cards, Says Ex-Capcom Composer
Still funny watching people seemingly shocked to discover that Nintendo-an entity that literally only exists to make profits-are motivated by profits
Re: Poll: So, Will You Be Getting Super Mario Galaxy + Super Mario Galaxy 2 For Switch?
Having got a decent deal on the physical from Shopto in the UK I’ve gone for that
Re: No Switch 2 "Upgrade Path" For Dragon Quest VII: Reimagined Planned
@Filthy
Because plenty of other publishers are managing it
Re: Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment Box Art Officially Revealed For Switch 2
Really nice box art. Very much looking forward to this, glad it’s coming out so soon.
Re: Surprise! Donkey Kong Bananza Is Getting DLC, And It's Out Today
@Toastmaster
I’m in Europe. Games like Halo 3, Gears of War 2, Last of Us. and Gran Turismo 5 were same day release dates. In the same year American Nintendo fans were starting Operation Rainfall Little Big Planet 2, Killzone 3, Uncharted 3, Infamous 2 and Forza Motorsport 4 saw worldwide releases completed in a week, something Nintendo managed with Skyward Sword while refusing to release the Rainfall games. Gears of War 3 was a simultaneous worldwide release. No campaign required.
The Sony comparison is interesting though as staggered release dates mattered less on PS3 with it not being region locked. Meanwhile 2011 Nintendo released the 3DS, region locking a handheld for the first time. Wii U was then region locked when XB1/PS4 was not.
Re: Surprise! Kirby Air Riders Is Getting A Second Direct
Hopefully this one makes it lol a bit more exciting. Never rated the original at all and the first Direct looked ok but nothing remarkable.
Re: Best Super Mario Games Of All Time
@nocdaes
That short gap is just down to Nintendo being woeful at releasing games in Europe back then and making us wait 3 years to get Mario 3. The original Japanese release dates were actually over 2 years apart.
Re: Best Super Mario Games Of All Time
Unusual to find I agree with one of these lists but can’t argue much with that. Maybe 3D World a bit higher but generally I see why this is how it is.
Re: Surprise! Donkey Kong Bananza Is Getting DLC, And It's Out Today
@Toastmaster
See post 71 for what they were doing in the 2010s. I forgot refusing to launch games like Xenoblade in the US, the Circle Pad Pro farce, the Wii Mini, different proprietary plugs for charging their devices, not including a charger with the New 3DS, Amiibo launching with content locked behind some, NES and SNES Mini and the artificial scarcity of those, and the Nintendo Creators Program
As for the Wii U price it launched at £249 for the basic set (£269 in 2017 adjusted for inflation) and £299 for the Deluxe set (£322 in 2017 adjusted for inflation). Switch launched at £279.
Re: New Kirby amiibo Will Apparently Be Nintendo's "Most Expensive amiibo Ever"
I probably wasn’t going to get them but now I’m definitely not
Re: Virtual Boy Is Being Added To Nintendo Switch Online
@Moroboshi876
NSO is a revenue stream. That’s their favourite thing.
Re: Virtual Boy Is Being Added To Nintendo Switch Online
@sixrings
Of course. Once something isn’t officially available it’s fair game
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2 Bundle Confirmed For Switch, Launching October
@sixrings
Right. I wouldn’t have thought so. This is probably a separate thing?
Re: Nintendo Direct September 2025: Every Announcement, Game Reveal, Trailer
@Ganon821
I’m not sure why anyone would expect a new Mario game for the 40th anniversary when we haven’t got one before. Even Mario Galaxy 2 which released in the 25th anniversary year wasn’t billed as being part of any anniversary celebration-the anniversary release was Mario All Stars, a SNES ROM dumped onto a Wii disc.
Re: Virtual Boy Is Being Added To Nintendo Switch Online
@Moroboshi876
By the time NSO shuts down AI will be able to rewrite the code into a Power BI app on your eyelid streaming chip and 3D print you a proper Virtual Boy
Re: Virtual Boy Is Being Added To Nintendo Switch Online
@Boopero
They’d be even worse in 2D. This is a novelty thing where the peripheral really is required. It’s as far from essential as anyone can get so the price is neither here nor there. Funny though.
Re: Virtual Boy Is Being Added To Nintendo Switch Online
Absolutely hilarious. One of the maddest Nintendo announcements ever. Made the talking slower toy look sane.
I don’t think I’m going to get it because the VB was rubbish but still, don’t ever change Nintendo.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Prices Are Live, And It's Sticker Shock Time
@whiskeydave
Reality is out of over 110 Nintendo games on Switch 13 were Wii U ports. Their schedule for the rest of the year is Mario Galaxy 2, Pokemon Z-A, Metroid Prime 4, Kirby Air Riders and Hyrule Warriors which is 4 new games. What they’ve announced for next year is all new too-Rhythm Heaven, Tomodachi Life, Splatoon Raiders, Mario Tennis, Yoshi, Fire Emblem and the two Pokemon games.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Prices Are Live, And It's Sticker Shock Time
@Real_Obsi
Rage bait generates clicks
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Prices Are Live, And It's Sticker Shock Time
@SuntannedDuck2
You can just buy Galaxy 2 digitally
Re: Nintendo Direct September 2025: Every Announcement, Game Reveal, Trailer
I went for 8, it was a 7-8 really.
Lots of good stuff.
New Nintendo games-Mario Tennis, Yoshi, Fire Emblem. They’re releasing 5 games between now and year end, 4 of them new (including Hyrule Warriors). We also have a picture forming of next year with the three above plus Rhythm Heaven, Tomodachi Life, Splatoon Raiders, and 2 Pokemon games.
I was hoping for more third party support. Resident Evil Requiem is a big one though not really my thing.
I also liked that some stuff was just plain weird. Anyone who predicted the Virtual Boy is lying. A talking flower toy? Sure. Samus has a bike. They were rambling on about a marathon at one point. Very quirky.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Prices Are Live, And It's Sticker Shock Time
@foursider
Generally profit driven multinational corporations do behave in quite a capitalist way. Their entire existence.
Re: Surprise! Donkey Kong Bananza Is Getting DLC, And It's Out Today
@Yoshi3
I gave you several examples of what they were doing 10 years ago. If you want to go further back we can get to their antitrust cases, bullying of retailers and publishers, aggressive litigation, price fixing, artificial scarcity etc. They’ve never been any different.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Prices Are Live, And It's Sticker Shock Time
@PessitheMystic
There is no objective when it comes to value. It’s all subjective.
The majority of 100-something comments is totally irrelevant to anything.
Nintendo aren’t obligated to make anything attainable. Neither is any other entertainment company. They only answer to their profit margins and shareholders and they price to what they think will maximise those profits. This isn’t housing or heating or food, nobody needs it.
Re: Surprise! Donkey Kong Bananza Is Getting DLC, And It's Out Today
@Yoshi3
I’m not interested in what they said, I’m comparing what they did. What they said is marketing fluff.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Prices Are Live, And It's Sticker Shock Time
@WOLF13
100% correct. It’s weird how many people convince themselves Nintendo are their best friend and then are all shocked when they try to make money.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Prices Are Live, And It's Sticker Shock Time
@PinderSchloss
I just won’t buy anything I don’t think is good value. I won’t presume to tell anyone else what they should do though.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Prices Are Live, And It's Sticker Shock Time
@PessitheMystic
There’s no such thing as them objectively costing too much. Value is subjective. How are you measuring your belief that ‘the majority has spoken?’ Are you confusing 80 comments on a website with ‘a majority’ of something?
The cost of living crisis is irrelevant. These are Consumer goods that nobody needs to exist.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Prices Are Live, And It's Sticker Shock Time
@PinderSchloss
I’ll buy whatever I want with MY MONEY thanks
Re: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond Finally Gets A Release Date, Open World Confirmed
@datamonkey
Yeah I’m a bit nervous about this. I’m not convinced it’s really open world though, more a method of navigating between areas. Hope it’s good.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Prices Are Live, And It's Sticker Shock Time
@cmbaum
It’s not that nobody wants to hear it. As with everything the complainers make more noise than those who are fine with it.