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@michellelynn0976

Little above Series S? I think you meant below.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2025/07/switch-port-experts-share-thoughts-about-switch-2s-raw-performance

@Moistnado @Kingy

Wait, they do a portable PS5? Exciting!

@rjejr

No point comparing a portable to a Home system. Switch 1 has well and truly established that now.

@Misima

I don’t think Nintendo ‘needs to realise’ anything with regards to prices v Steam. The same criticisms existed with regard to Switch 1 prices v Steam and yet it was hugely successful and profitable.

@KITG_GROUP @Dan1283

This was said about PS4/XB1 ports to the Switch 1 and yet there was enough of a market to justify tons of them. Turns out portability is a significant selling point to many people.

All the Xbox big hitters-Forza Horizon/Gears/Halo (FH5, MCC and Infinite should run fine like they did on Xbox One)

Doom The Dark Ages

Fallout 3 and 4

RDR2

Mass Effect is a great shout

Desperados 3 (Mouse/touch screen could be a benefit)

All the resident Evil remakes

Have to say, as the parent of 8 and 11 year old boys, this app is great. They’ve got this bit absolutely right.

@Beermonkey

Oh great, thanks for that, I haven’t tried it but I’ll give it a go. It’s great fun on Switch but you’re right about the loading times being veeeeery long.

I was in an Arcade in Scarborough a few weeks ago as my kids were playing this. Me and my wife were stood watching and commented on the similarity with Cruisn Blast and how nice it would be to get a Switch version with them seemingly using a lot of same code. Must have helped manifest it 😂

Any word on a Switch 2 enhanced version?

It looks like an unreleased Dreamcast game or unfinished PC tech demo from 1999. That’s not a compliment.

Not planning on it. Controls are the key to most Gaming experiences for me and the dual mouse controls don’t appeal to me in the slightest. It’s all a bit lacking in personality too. Even at the low price I’m very unlikely to go for it. A sale and a lot of positive feedback might change my mind but no plans for now.

@Axelay71

That box art really is nice

The Japanese one is really poor. I don’t think the Western one is amazing but it captures the essence of the game better

@The_Nintend_Pedant

Very true. At least they’ve moved on from the days of bullying retailers and third parties, antitrust cases, price fixing, region locking, delayed Western releases (if they happened at all), trying to sue anyone who rented their games, locking info behind their own magazine, proprietary Memory Cards and power cables, the stupid DRM they used pre-Switch etc etc

Even then during people to protect their IP is nothing new, as the makes of the Game Genie can testify. Neither is their aggressive stance against piracy or use of artificial scarcity.

@Dee123

It’s weird. My favourite is when they get all dewy eyed nostalgic about a time when Nintendo were ‘different,’ as if they haven’t always been an aggressively profit chasing corporate entity that literally only exists to make money.

@sixrings

They did that because the FC games are much better, frame rate aside

Hmmm. Looks very nice and they’ve done some great Controllers but the price is a little bit above what I’d pay. £10-15 lower and I’m in.

Very entertaining review. Price is putting me off a bit but I am very tempted by this. American Football has always been a perfect handheld game for me given its stop-start nature. Sounds like a really good port.

@sethfranum

I don’t want an all-digital future. Get rid of GKC and that moves closer. The mass market pays full price for digital games all the time BTW, some reports put last years COD at 80% digital sales in its first week. Same for FC 25 in the UK. Don’t fall into the trap of thinking chat on sites like this represents the market as a whole.

Great news. Though to be honest I didn’t know they had any links to IGN 😂

I like DF, I find their stuff very interesting without it ever really affecting my enjoyment of, or decisions to purchase, any games. I also remember Richard’s writing from Mean Machines magazine back in the early 1990s, if anyone deserves the title of ‘industry stalwart’ it’s that guy!

@Andee

😂 Like it

It shouldn’t be allowed. Nintendo should have removed that option.

@sethfranum

Unless you’re going to get every single potential buyer of a Switch game to do that survey it won’t tell you much. It’s far more likely to be the enthusiast/collectors that would fill that in than the average consumer.

Definitely. The new content looks really substantial and it’s one of the Switch games that will really benefit from a proper graphical and performance bump. An easy sell for anyone who’s played the original.

@Baker1000

There’s no guarantee Nintendo or third party publishers will take them up even if the option becomes available at some point. Cost could be prohibitive. It would make sense to provide a 16GB option for smaller games at least. There’s a few Switch 2 GKC games that would fit into that. I think a lot of big third party games are going beyond 64GB anyway so it’s all academic for them.

Hopefully this will cover a decent number of the games that appeal to the collectors market then Online anger can be directed at the less fashionable but far more annoying continuing presence of Code in a Box games (WWE, Split Fiction). These are completely inexcusable when the GKC option exists.

@OrtadragoonX

If you’re all digital great, GKC don’t affect you in the slightest. Digital will always be there as that’s what the publishers want the market to do. GKC are a good option for those that like to easily share their games (e.g.have multiple Switches in the house) and trade/sell them on.

@sethfranum

Yes but my point is that the mass market I.e. most people will not care. The people who do not care far outweigh the collectors that do. The collectors-while they shout loud-are in a minority by some distance.

@Jedrus_Lilac

I think so. Plus the likes of FC 26 and Madden which will be huge and have an audience that cares nothing for preservation. In fact I can see the mass market in general being totally unbothered by this. Telling someone who doesn’t collect games that they shouldn’t buy and play a game now because they might not be able to play it in 20-something years will be met with a blank stare.

I’m willing to bet there’s more to come on this. Not that it stops the clickbait or the ‘Boo evil Nintendo’ posts that inevitably feed off it

@Jedrus_Lilac

The data on third party games is actually pretty mixed with analysts (including the one that originally reported third party sales being below some estimates) cautioning against drawing any conclusions.

https://x.com/chris_dring/status/1935779303339573412?s=46

https://x.com/zhugeex/status/1935753706689249775?s=46

https://bsky.app/profile/matpiscatella.bsky.social/post/3lrxzjgdngs2t

Personally I’d rather Online ire be focussed on the much more outrageous presence of Code In a Box games despite the GKC option (WWE 2K25) but I guess that’s not fashionable.

@Tainaru Nintendo aren’t using GKC for their games

@Mincey0

The main retail chain in the UK that does trade in/resale is trading in GKC games and treating them as physical

@Ashunera84

People complaining about stuff Online rarely translates to the mass market

@Jedrus_Lilac

Sony and Xbox also charge 30% royalties. The issue on Nintendo is carts (which Nintendo have to use) cost more than discs so that costs third parties more. GKC are their attempt at evening that disparity out a bit and keeping a physical retail presence rather than have publishers go fully digital.

@AllMyNinjasSmile

Nintendo has only ever been about profit. As an entity they only exist to make profit. If you ever thought any different you fell for their marketing.

@Ooccoo_Jr

“ The whole thing just seems so overblown and 99% of people complaining are never going to be truly negatively affected by this”

Exactly this. It’s fashionable in some circles though.

Filled it in but mainly to tell them where to go with Code In a Box games. GLC can be resold and shared so are much less offensive and a decent option compared to digital only, which is where we’re heading.

@Ooccoo_Jr

It’s an issue for people who collect to the point that the prospect of not being able to access an unpatched v1.0 of a game if they turn the servers off in 20 years or so and they haven’t downloaded the game to an SD Card and the system hasn’t been hacked anyway (breathes) is a deal breaker. However loud they shout, that isn’t most people. I’m not even sure I’ll be alive in 20 years let alone refusing to buy games now because of that reason.

@MoldyPasta

Going digital is the perfect scenario for them. In fact if GKCs were to be replaced it would almost certainly just mean digital only.

@jojobar

Those figures are a quote from an analyst specifically related to Europe

Not a lot.

Possibly Mario Maker 3. The Mouse controls make it seem ideal for a Switch 2 version and they could use the anniversary to push it

What I’d love is New Super Mario Bros All Stars (with the Switch 2 edition at 4K60 and allowing on the fly switching between different Mario graphical styles), Super Mario 3D All Stars Switch 2 edition (with everything at 4K60) and Super Mario 3D All Stars Volume 2 (3D Land, Mario 64 DS, Mario Galaxy 2). But that won’t happen.

@The_Nintend_Pedant

That’s your subjective opinion and you’re perfectly entitled to it. However it’s really not an indicator of some sort of ‘dark age’ because they’ve ’they've dropped the ball this hard on Switch 2’ which is the post I was bemused by. You’re just desperately unlucky to not like Odyssey, Wonder, Luigi’s Mansion 3, Pikmin 4 or many widely beloved and highly rated games among the 130+ Nintendo put out among the literal thousands on the Switch. But that’s all it is, a phenomenal run of bad luck. It is not in any way an indicator of things going wrong for Nintendo.

Sales data is actually relevant, comparisons to music and hamburgers don’t work. Sometimes popular things are good, sometimes they aren’t. Especially when it comes to Games systems. I can count on the fingers of zero hands the number of games machines that have been popular without a great library of games. I don’t personally like the PS1 or the 360, but I wouldn’t pretend they represented some sort of ‘dark age.’

P.S. Prime 4 is on Switch 1 last I heard

@The_Nintend_Pedant

In asking for third party exclusives you’re asking for something that doesn’t really exist industry-wide.

To claim this is some kind of dark age for Nintendo when they’ve just had a hugely successful launch backed by exclusives scoring 86 and 91 on Metacritic, following up their most successful system ever which has had an endless supply of good software, is hysterical

@hcpina

No they didn’t. GameCube launched in September 2001 in Japan and November 2001 in the US.

Soul calibur 2 launched in 2003
Zelda Wind waker released December 2002 in Japan and March 2003 in the US
Resident evil 1-3 remake Resi 2 and 3 weren’t remakes and launched in 2003
Resident evil 0 wasn’t out in the systems first year in Japan
Resident evil 4 2005
Final fantasy launched in Japan in 2003 and the West in 2004
1080 avalanche launched late 2003
Metroid prime literally launched a year after the system in the US and later everywhere else
Mario kart double dash launched in 2003

@hcpina

That list of games too over three years from the GameCubes launch to release

@TAndvig

The same Nintendo that has just had the best Console launch ever? That Nintendo?

@The_Nintend_Pedant

There are hardly any third party exclusives anywhere, and those that are available only exist because the platform holder funds them.

Tekken for Wii U had some Nintendo involvement.

A very good start by any measure. With the Christmas buying season still to come it seems their 15 million estimate is either deliberately low or tied to how many they can manufacture.

It’s no surprise it’s off to a good start though. Two huge system exclusives (currently sat at 86 and 91 on Metacritic), a digital-only first party exclusive, three paid first party updates-1 with extra content, a stack of free updates to games like Bowsers Fury and Echoes of Wisdom that improve gameplay, another first party game and big upgrade out in August, while nearly everything else seems to run better just from the extra grunt.

Third party support is showing quicker than it did with Switch 1 with some big third party games (Cyberpunk, Yakuza, WWE) that aren’t on Switch 1 and some (Hogwarts, Fortnite) significantly upgraded.

The hardware is great. I was expecting something slightly above PS4 instead we got something comparable to PS4 Pro and close to Series S.

However there are issues. Supply has been good so far but does their 15m forecast mean supply issues in the run up to Christmas?

The price is reasonable for the hardware but probably at the top of the ‘reasonable’ band for the mainstream. It has also meant an inevitable compromise in terms of battery life.

Nintendo came up with Game Key Cards as a solution to having physical presence in a digital world. Yet we still get the likes of WWE and Spit Fiction 2 launching as ‘code in a box.’ This is unacceptable. Some third parties aren’t offering upgrade paths for Switch 2 editions.

The stories about Nintendo being slow to get dev kits out reflects in the lack of Western third party support.

We have plenty of Nintendo games announced but are very lacking in dates.

Overall a very good start and reflected in the sales. Plenty more to do though.

P.S.Outside of sales it’s funny to see this site has an influx of posters desperate for Nintendo to fail, just like in the Switch 1 days.

Always happy to see a first party Nintendo title on the way. However the original is a poor game so I’m not hugely optimistic for this.

@RemyMartin

That’s exactly what worked for the PS5. New systems that are backwards compatible sell based on a small number of exclusives and upgrades to older games. Same with PCs, Mobile phones, tablets etc. A big part of the attraction is QOL improvements and the users existing software library running better.

Plus to be fair to Nintendo they have launched two big Switch 2 exclusives already.

Never before have I thought the phrase ‘is that it?’ more appropriate