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@FlyingDunsparce Affecting the score? Ruining the game? It's a minor personal point brought up in the text with a tongue-in-cheek callback in the cons — this wouldn't suddenly be an 8 if Funky Kong was silent!

The Joys and Cons are an overall roundup reflecting the sentiments of the reviewer, they don't represent scales with the balance going one way or another depending on the number of positives/negatives. A 10/10 could easily have two or three cons.

@FishyS Ha, watch this space.

@Max_the_German That is a shout, and I've added it.

Eyyyy, cheers everyone!

@Spider-Kev I believe there's a limit to the number of entries we can display on a single page in this case. If you change to the 'Table' view, you can see nearly all of them on one page. But it still hits a limit and goes onto a second. Too many amiibo!

@JackieCMarlow @ButterCashier

As Tom said, it's a journalistic convention that's been a part of NL for years now. You'll find it in all our news and review articles and most of our features, too — although Soapboxes and some Talking Points switch to singular. There are pros and cons to the plural, but it generally helps maintain a more cohesive reading experience across the site.

@GrailUK To an addict, in the middle of a cost-of-living crisis, why would you say such things?

@JohnnyMind Found it.

@Impossibilium I’ve added a note. 👍

@Teksetter I missed that — thanks for the spot.

@Lofoten 'Genre-defining' is in the rubric on our Scoring Policy. It's all subjective, of course, but generally, that's what pushes something into 10 territory.

@Diowine Disappointed with a 9? It's an excellent score! And "We know that NintendoLife tends to score main Nintendo games higher than other critics..." <<< Do we really know this?

Dang, there goes a Game Voucher.

@The_Pixel_King When did you send it? It may have gotten lost — if you can resend, I'll mark it down for the next one.

Edit. Scratch that, I've just found it in the inbox from last September! I must have forgotten to tag after reading, but it's in the right folder now and will be in Part 8.

@BodkinDQ @FishyS Nope, that's my fault, I missed that we'd covered it previously!
In order not to duplicate, I've moved Bodkin's recommendation to the BotM entry in the other article and subbed in another recommendation here that arrived late on Friday eve after I'd scheduled this.

@Uncle_Franklin Nope, it'll be back next weekend.

@MeloMan Ha, a cheeky Thursday bonus.

@somnambulance That’s cool. 👍

@GalaxicGlobe Ha, I hope not, but each to their own!

@GalaxicGlobe Oof, we’ve looked at those before. Rest assured that any recommendations for those will get filed where they belong. 🚽

I'm gobsmacked they're just standard little sets.

@Bobb SMNJIUHUOBUBU *cries

Zapped, thanks

@BenoitRen This is a slip where I wrote 'PSP' instead of 'PS Vita'. I've corrected that now.

@Not_Soos

@steve_mcsteve I think the group's FAQ outlines the understanding and use of the term comprehensively — I don't read it as hostile in tone, but given the passionate responses from people who disagree, I'm not certain there's any other source that would be universally satisfactory, unfortunately.

We'll be closing comments for now — thank you to everyone who contributed constructively. For anyone who had their contributions removed, I'd once again invite you to read our Community Rules.

@Yomerodes Ha, well I'll blame the 'ii' on my monitor blurring my lowercase 'i' and 'l'. And a gremlin ran off with the second 'e', probably. 👀

Thanks for the spot.

@NotSoCryptic @NorthwestEagle @JackieCMarlow LXIG has an in-depth explanation on its site detailing its use of the term and its intentions behind it. They use it, as we have, as an inclusive umbrella for however individual community members identify — it's not intended to erase or ignore anything.

This topic (naturally) generates passionate opinions, so I'd remind everyone in the comments to proceed with respect and consideration of our Community Rules. Thanks in advance.

@JohnnyMind That... huh, wasn't there yesterday. Could be gremlins, or perhaps a tab-switch-forward-delete snafu when I edited the title. Likely gremlins. Either way, thanks for the spot.

@TotalHenshin @TotalHenshin It should, zapped. Something about the title on this one sends twists my melon for some reason. Spud and Beans, Slap and Bud, it doesn't want to stay in there!

@Spider-Kev Ah, I see what you mean! I don’t think anyone on the team picked up the Bowser one. I’ll ask.

@SteamEngenius Can we stop with the negative, conspiratorial rubbish, please? We’re not a print mag with a page quota to fill. If we don’t have enough letters, I’ll just make it shorter, skip a month, or nix the whole thing.

@Anti-Matter Anything, really, as long as it’s game or site-related. And short.

@Spider-Kev Yep, it’s above (click on ‘We did’).

@Spider-Kev We did.

@-wc- "Misinformation"? "Disinformation"? Erasing the sequels' contributions??

This game is based on the SNES original and the comparison is quite clearly being drawn between that and this new reworking of it. That's the context here. Not listing off the features of the sequels hardly qualifies as 'misinformation' now.

@Gamer_Griff Yep, Mythforce is on the way. 👍

@censwordship The fact you hadn't heard of this one is precisely why we're reviewing it! We've had eleven reviews go live in the past seven days, spanning multiple genres, from the biggest series on the planet to tiny indie releases like this that could easily pass people by.

We can't cover everything, but we do our best to highlight as broad a spectrum of games as we can. Out of interest, what games do you feel like we're missing?

@Neftyda2 It seems the layer with #48 went walkies on this one — apologies! I've updated the map, #48 is located on Talus Plateau.

@Tuulenpoika That was the plan, although he's got loads on atm having just returned from PAX, so no promises.

@DarkTron So, Sabotage reached out and offered us cold hard cash to feature its game in our little community box art poll, is that it? There's no way we conveniently chose a recently released Switch game we're all playing and enjoying for which there's different box art between regions? Because it's never happened before??

@OldManHermit @bstoppel Weirdly, that seems to be just for the trailer. The music is present and correct in the game itself. I've added a note just below the video in the article.

Second Star Trek(-related) game on Switch? Downloaded, innit.

@RainbowGazelle I've looked into this. Sega says the demo will be available in Europe later this month, and I've added a line to the intro.

@progx What Nintendo chooses to add in its weekly updates seems to be... inconsistent! Various other games listed above are also launching on 17th. It's possible anything downloadable before the next eShop update PR is sent out on Thurs 17th is included, but I imagine it depends on what info is in the eShop database at the time. For instance, there may be games launching Mon/Tue/Wed next week which aren't finalised, so they'll appear on next Thursday's update.

tl;dr Nintendo innit

@Commandervide0 ?

@Chibi Ha, you’re right. I’ve tweaked that line.

@Kasparius It's absolutely not that I don't want to hear it! And I'm not saying you're an outlier, either — I'm totally open to criticism and suggestions, that's why I'm asking you about it. I'm just trying to explain the rationale behind these inclusions/exclusions.

With the 100 Best Nintendo Games list, we ended up with just Wind Waker HD and Ocarina / MM 3DS as dupes, all of which (for me) added significant features and upgrades to warrant their own entries. Same with Pokémon Crystal (eg. GBC-only, first female avatar in the series, added features, etc).

@Kasparius These reader-ranked lists are based on user ratings for each individual release in our database, so combining all versions into a single entry isn’t possible without actively excluding one version or another, or limiting the options with a simple poll.

The parameters are explained in the intro, and I do feel that there are notable differences between versions, despite them being essentially ‘the same’ underneath. If people want to know which version of, say, Pikmin 2 rates highest according to NL readers, that info is above. You’d lose that by distilling all the versions into a single entry, which I’d call a downside.

@EarthboundBenjy Ha, my point is that the way our User Rating system works, the order of the others is unaffected if you exclude something, for any reason. Eg. If there are spin-offs/remasters included in a list and you don’t personally think they should be there, imagine that they’re not and the order of the others doesn’t change.

@Kasparius So what would you propose? Just include the originals? I think there’s value in including the Switch versions (the ones readily accessible today) as a comparison point, even if it’s a bit ‘messier’. If you do just want to count the OGs, the info is all there.

@Kasparius I get where you’re coming from, but what’s the solution? Include only the original releases? Only the Switch versions? A generic catch-all for each entry, despite their different iterations?

As explained in the intro, presenting all of them let’s you compare the different versions of the same game within the overall list, which I think is pretty illuminating (the Switch version of Pikmin 2 seems to be the least liked right now, for example). And if there are ones you wish weren’t there, you can pretend they aren’t and the remaining order is preserved as is.

@RadioShadow Colourblind support features are covered for other games, so this looks like a mislabelling for that specific game — we’ll investigate. 👍

Ah, SM3DW sneaked in at the bottom. I've removed it now, thanks.

With the others, we judged them to be sufficiently different from the originals to warrant inclusion, so they're in there.