I'd like the standard size or the XL in a better colour, so I'm waiting. I did import a Japanese one and it's nice enough. I might nab the NA-compatible blue XL from Asia. Or not.
I've wanted to be excited about this game, but I just can't. I don't trust that Nintendo will treat this franchise the way I'd like it to be seen, and I've liked (SNES, Adventures) as many games as I've disliked (Assault, Command).
There is a lot of possibility in the SF universe, but when they basically said it was a third telling of the same story, that's when I knew it wasn't for me. Best of luck to them.
Eh, fine with the change. Any creepiness aside, I hate games that make me turn the touchscreen into a scratch-off lottery ticket. Looking at YOU, Star Fox Command...
To be a mass market success, it needs to have broad appeal with a healthy and diverse games library. I won't pick one up immediately as the only time I've been an early adopter on video game hardware was the Gameboy in 1989. The library has to be there to appeal to me - that's why I bought an X1 instead of a PS4. It has the games I want to play now instead of some date in the future.
And, frankly, I'm beyond Mario fatigue. The Zelda games aren't huge for me, I've never played Pokemon, and I hate Smash with a passion. For someone like me, I need the PN03s and SSXs and Auto Modellistas to want a system. I don't think that Nintendo has the arsenal to do that alone anymore. That means they have to get this hardware right for 3rd parties or they'll be singing to the ever-shrinking choir for another generation.
I'll be interested to know details of internal specs. Then we'll get a sense of backwards compatibility to Wii U (hoping not) and the likelihood of 3rd parties really getting behind it.
I was okay with the 3DS launch lineup; I just couldn't get one due to grad school/starting a business. Piltowings Resort, Steeldivers, and Dead or Alive Dimensions had me very interested.
I'd like Pilotwings, some sort of racing game, a Splation with more single player and local co-op, a Fire Emblem anthology, and some 3rd party like a new SSX, a Ratchet and Clank/Sunset Overdrive kind of game, a Warriors title like Samurai Warriors 4 Empires, and both Monster Hunter and Toukiden. I'd start saving up today for that kind of launch.
Edit: forgot Bayonetta 3. And something with the open wonder of Infinite Space.
The exact problem is that, while we don't know what it is, analysts and others are attempting to put the puzzle pieces together. Nintendo may indeed be enjoying the buzz, but they need to control the narrative a bit as well. A leak or two that leaves us wanting to know more might be sensible. They don't want hype to outstrip reality.
While a lot of the conversation (here included) is on the NX vs the Wii U, I'm really quite interested to see where things go in the portable sense. The 3DS has been fantastic (full disclosure: I love the Vita as well, so I'm biased towards portability), and I would love to see what they can do next in that format. I was a bit bummed that the article @rjejr posted suggested no OLED screen. The Vita version of that looks lovely, even though they dumped it in the updated hardware iteration.
The Wii U could have done better sales-wise, but I got my money's worth out of it. The NX could be interesting, but we don't know enough and I have no reason to buy one. It'll all come down to the games, a decision up to each of us.
I get sick of games and games companies telling me it's more fun to play online. Forza Horizon 2 keeps wanting me to do it, and EA uses it as a crutch to avoid having to develop more than the barr minimum. I play games to escape, not so I can deal with even more jerks on a daily basis. I've appreciated Nintendo understanding that, but I am worried for the future.
@Smokingspoon If even the news media are referring to your company as "patent-assertion", then that's pretty much the cleaned-up definition of patent troll.
That mint green 2DS with MK7 is great at $80. I got that when it came out and left NES Remix in it. Two games, tons to do, good to stash away in a desk drawer for short sessions. Love the thing.
Ooh... do I smell a gritty remake of Ice Climbers?!?
I've got the current generation of hardware save a PS4 (saving up for a move; next year, then), and I like the distinct feel and ecosystem of each. Maybe there isn't room for three, but I like things as they are.
The name isn't as important as the overall impression the marketplace has of the device. I have no problem understanding what the Xbox One (which I have) and PS4 (which I'll get next year) are, and those who are general media consumers have no problem either. The Wii U, if properly explained, could have been fine on name, but there was not nearly enough work done to explain to the market what exactly the thing was. A lot of that was the uphill battle after the Wii seemed to tail off from public consciousness around 2010. The gap was too big, and that audience would need to be reached again.
Marketing, as a concept, isn't difficult, even if the ideas and reception are much more challenging. It's the concept itself that Nintendo seems to be so conservative with, and I think it bit them a bit this generation.
Good numbers, with even the Vita almost able to see 20,000. Not too shabby.
But poor Xbox, though. It really is a lovely system. Anyone who says the Wii U or Vita have failed in a market needs to be reminded of these sub-1000 numbers.
I'm imagining, in retrospect, he'll want a mulligan on that tweet.
I love all of my systems (X1, Wii U, Vita, 3DS), and each of them have their strengths. Comparing them directly is very difficult, but it's hard to see, outside of maybe the 3DS, what is so challenging about this game to not have it running everywhere else.
@wazlon I agree, as Samurai Warriors 4 plays very well on that system. Still, Samurai Warriors Chronicles on the 3DS certainly isn't bad, so I'll give it a shot.
@Ralizah I'm not annoyed at all. The Wii U version will run better with better enemy counts. The 3DS version will be great to have on the go and with some nice perks to compensate.
I wa surprised how quickly Amazon and Best Buy put the special edition Fire Emblem up: missed on both of them. Guessed right that it would show up on Gamestop's website at 10am est. Big relief.
I'll always take another turn-based game, and I was interested enough in this one to rake notice when it came out in Japan. Feels almost like a Vita game.
Nice that they're doing one, but I can't say there's really anything I'm anticipating. I'm looking forward to next week's Stella Glow (sorry, Europe), FE Fates, Bravely Second, SMTxFE, Project X Zone 2, Final Fantasy Explorers, and a few others. But my dance card is a bit full right now with Rise of the Tomb Raider, Fallout 4, along with Forza 6 and my never-ending run through Hyrule Warriors.
@Gridatttack Forza and Sunset Overdrive were the exclusives that got me to pull the trigger. I'm waiting for the PS4 to be similarly attractive before I pick one up. @LztheQuack That's far from true to me.
I'll still treat the Wii U version as the main one, considering the limitations of the 3DS. Nice to be able to play it on the go, but comparing Samurai Warriors Chronicles on 3DS to a console or Vita version is no contest.
Quite happy for you both. I've had two relationships that formed over games, though they were local multiplayer. Got to know a wonderful woman while playing marathon rounds of Wii Bowling, and my current relationship owes a lot to Mario Kart 8. And simultaneously cursing very loudly at the television.
"It proves that there's room for cute, family-friendly action games on the next generation of consoles, amid all the brown and grey-coloured military shooters."
I'd be very happy to get SSX NX. That said, I don't think they view it as something personal. They dropped the Vita rather early on as well. If the NX struggles out of the gate, I doubt EA will release many games beyond the launch window.
Against the principle of censorship, but I'm not bothered by this at all. I cut Japan some slack when it comes to high-school age 17-year old thing, as we can look at the 90210-ish example of 30-somethings playing those roles. But 13? Yikes.
Much like their 3DS counterparts, I think a golf title would have been stronger than tennis. I actually really like the 3DS tennis title, but not as one I bury hours and hours in. It's much harder to sell a Wii U game as being the same kind of pick-up-and-play experience.
I'm glad that they aren't going down the established—and broken—model of mobile games. I like that they're trying something different, a different way to interact. It's what we expect of Nintendo. That said, I can't say I'm terribly excited by this, and I agree that while this will probably be huge in Japan, the lower population density especially here in North America makes it a harder sell. I'll be curious to see what else they come up with down the road.
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Re: Feature: Looking Back at the New 3DS Launch, Nintendo's Perfect Valentine's Day Gift
I'd like the standard size or the XL in a better colour, so I'm waiting. I did import a Japanese one and it's nice enough. I might nab the NA-compatible blue XL from Asia. Or not.
Re: Feature: Learning More About the Nindies Love You Wii U eShop Promotion
Would encourage people to get Race the Sun. Love playing that on my Vita.
Re: Nintendo Gives Us A Friendly Recap On Why We Should Be Excited About Hyrule Warriors Legends
I don't have a New 3DS, so it hardly seems worth it to me. Glad for those who don't own a Wii U and want to give it a go.
Re: Nintendo Drops Behind Sony in Japan as Wii U Sales Tumble
Not great numbers in general when four-figure sales can slip a title into the top ten.
Re: Rumour: Star Fox Zero Facing Development Niggles, Another Delay Could Happen
I've wanted to be excited about this game, but I just can't. I don't trust that Nintendo will treat this franchise the way I'd like it to be seen, and I've liked (SNES, Adventures) as many games as I've disliked (Assault, Command).
There is a lot of possibility in the SF universe, but when they basically said it was a third telling of the same story, that's when I knew it wasn't for me. Best of luck to them.
Re: Here's Exactly What Has Changed With Fire Emblem Fates' "Skinship" Petting Mode
Eh, fine with the change. Any creepiness aside, I hate games that make me turn the touchscreen into a scratch-off lottery ticket. Looking at YOU, Star Fox Command...
Re: PlatinumGames Explains Shift to Contract Work and Ambition to be One of the World's Top Studios
@Jamotello I'll second that.
Re: Platinum Games Celebrates its Ten Year Anniversary
It isn't perfect, but the ambition, scale, and wonder of Infinite Space puts it top of the heap for me.
Re: Talking Point: Learning Lessons From the Past Can Define Nintendo's NX Launch
To be a mass market success, it needs to have broad appeal with a healthy and diverse games library. I won't pick one up immediately as the only time I've been an early adopter on video game hardware was the Gameboy in 1989. The library has to be there to appeal to me - that's why I bought an X1 instead of a PS4. It has the games I want to play now instead of some date in the future.
And, frankly, I'm beyond Mario fatigue. The Zelda games aren't huge for me, I've never played Pokemon, and I hate Smash with a passion. For someone like me, I need the PN03s and SSXs and Auto Modellistas to want a system. I don't think that Nintendo has the arsenal to do that alone anymore. That means they have to get this hardware right for 3rd parties or they'll be singing to the ever-shrinking choir for another generation.
Re: Macronix Will Be Providing Memory Products for the NX
I'll be interested to know details of internal specs. Then we'll get a sense of backwards compatibility to Wii U (hoping not) and the likelihood of 3rd parties really getting behind it.
Re: Poll: Which Nintendo Franchises Do You Most Want to See With the NX Launch?
I was okay with the 3DS launch lineup; I just couldn't get one due to grad school/starting a business. Piltowings Resort, Steeldivers, and Dead or Alive Dimensions had me very interested.
I'd like Pilotwings, some sort of racing game, a Splation with more single player and local co-op, a Fire Emblem anthology, and some 3rd party like a new SSX, a Ratchet and Clank/Sunset Overdrive kind of game, a Warriors title like Samurai Warriors 4 Empires, and both Monster Hunter and Toukiden. I'd start saving up today for that kind of launch.
Edit: forgot Bayonetta 3. And something with the open wonder of Infinite Space.
Re: Wii Street U Service Being Discontinued In March, Leaving eShop This Month
I admit, I just woke up so I might not be reading this right, but it goes away in March, not January, right?
Re: IHS Technology Adds to Speculation of an NX Portable Release in 2016
The exact problem is that, while we don't know what it is, analysts and others are attempting to put the puzzle pieces together. Nintendo may indeed be enjoying the buzz, but they need to control the narrative a bit as well. A leak or two that leaves us wanting to know more might be sensible. They don't want hype to outstrip reality.
Re: Rumour: Super Smash Bros. Planned as NX Launch Title, Bandai Namco Working on "Several" Games
While a lot of the conversation (here included) is on the NX vs the Wii U, I'm really quite interested to see where things go in the portable sense. The 3DS has been fantastic (full disclosure: I love the Vita as well, so I'm biased towards portability), and I would love to see what they can do next in that format. I was a bit bummed that the article @rjejr posted suggested no OLED screen. The Vita version of that looks lovely, even though they dumped it in the updated hardware iteration.
The Wii U could have done better sales-wise, but I got my money's worth out of it. The NX could be interesting, but we don't know enough and I have no reason to buy one. It'll all come down to the games, a decision up to each of us.
Just like it always does.
Re: Talking Point: Online Gaming Can't Recreate the Unique Fun of Local Multiplayer, Yet It's Dominant
I get sick of games and games companies telling me it's more fun to play online. Forza Horizon 2 keeps wanting me to do it, and EA uses it as a crutch to avoid having to develop more than the barr minimum. I play games to escape, not so I can deal with even more jerks on a daily basis. I've appreciated Nintendo understanding that, but I am worried for the future.
Re: Atlus CEO, Naoto Hiraoka, Promises a Year of Popular Franchises
Can't wait for V, but my OCD really needs Untold III. It would really bother me if it didn't come this generation.
Re: Nintendo Wins Bizarre Patent Case in Defence of Mii Characters
@Smokingspoon If even the news media are referring to your company as "patent-assertion", then that's pretty much the cleaned-up definition of patent troll.
Re: Bayonetta Confirmed as New Challenger in Super Smash Bros.
Amiibo will be acquired...
Re: Nintendo of America Lines Up Some Last Minute Festive Deals
That mint green 2DS with MK7 is great at $80. I got that when it came out and left NES Remix in it. Two games, tons to do, good to stash away in a desk drawer for short sessions. Love the thing.
Re: Microsoft's Phil Spencer "Would Be Happy" To See Nintendo Games On Xbox One
Ooh... do I smell a gritty remake of Ice Climbers?!?
I've got the current generation of hardware save a PS4 (saving up for a move; next year, then), and I like the distinct feel and ecosystem of each. Maybe there isn't room for three, but I like things as they are.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo is Right to Move On From the Wii Family Name With NX
The name isn't as important as the overall impression the marketplace has of the device. I have no problem understanding what the Xbox One (which I have) and PS4 (which I'll get next year) are, and those who are general media consumers have no problem either. The Wii U, if properly explained, could have been fine on name, but there was not nearly enough work done to explain to the market what exactly the thing was. A lot of that was the uphill battle after the Wii seemed to tail off from public consciousness around 2010. The gap was too big, and that audience would need to be reached again.
Marketing, as a concept, isn't difficult, even if the ideas and reception are much more challenging. It's the concept itself that Nintendo seems to be so conservative with, and I think it bit them a bit this generation.
Re: A 'Big' Nintendo Announcement is Coming on Monday
Always a bit wary of big Japanese announcements on 7.December...
/I kid! I kid!
Re: Monster Hunter X (Cross) Storms to Japanese Chart Lead and Boosts New 3DS Sales
Good numbers, with even the Vita almost able to see 20,000. Not too shabby.
But poor Xbox, though. It really is a lovely system. Anyone who says the Wii U or Vita have failed in a market needs to be reminded of these sub-1000 numbers.
Re: Guide: The Best 2015 Black Friday Nintendo Deals in the US
@technotreegrass Worth every penny, that. Bought it whennit came out and it's wonderful.
Re: Poor Odds of The Binding of Isaac: Afterbirth Coming to Wii U as Nicalis Says It's "Not Much More Powerful Than a PS Vita"
I'm imagining, in retrospect, he'll want a mulligan on that tweet.
I love all of my systems (X1, Wii U, Vita, 3DS), and each of them have their strengths. Comparing them directly is very difficult, but it's hard to see, outside of maybe the 3DS, what is so challenging about this game to not have it running everywhere else.
Re: Feature: Our Top 10 Wii U eShop Games - Third Anniversary Edition
A good list, though I would put Bit.Trip #1. Have it on two systems I enjoy it so much.
Re: Video: Latest Hyrule Warriors Legends Trailer Shows More of Toon Link In Action
@wazlon I agree, as Samurai Warriors 4 plays very well on that system. Still, Samurai Warriors Chronicles on the 3DS certainly isn't bad, so I'll give it a shot.
Re: Video: Latest Hyrule Warriors Legends Trailer Shows More of Toon Link In Action
@Ralizah I'm not annoyed at all. The Wii U version will run better with better enemy counts. The 3DS version will be great to have on the go and with some nice perks to compensate.
Re: Random: Sega And Nintendo Go To War Over Facial Hair
Not at all a fan of facial hair, but if this is for awareness more than publicity, shouldn't something on the poster point in that direction?
Re: Art: If Nintendo Did Resurrect The Game Boy, We'd Want It To Look Like This
A nice render, but not enough inputs for me. Give me a cross between the Vita (without the back touchpad) and the Xbox One controller.
Re: Feature: Our Top 10 Wii U Retail Games - Third Anniversary Edition
I'd have something like:
1. Hyrule Warriors
2. Mario Kart 8
3. Bayonetta 2
4. Splatoon
5. MH3U
6. Deus Ex
7. NFS: Most Wanted
8. Captain Toad
9. Warriors Orochi 3
10. Yoshi's Woolly World
Re: Poll: Did The Nintendo Direct Comeback Fire on All Cylinders?
@Ogbert The Splatoon badges will come. There are 7 or 8 screens of them in the Japanese version.
Re: Feature: The Big Nintendo Direct Summary - 12th November
I wa surprised how quickly Amazon and Best Buy put the special edition Fire Emblem up: missed on both of them. Guessed right that it would show up on Gamestop's website at 10am est. Big relief.
Re: Langrisser Re:Incarnation Tensei Confirmed For North American Release
I'll always take another turn-based game, and I was interested enough in this one to rake notice when it came out in Japan. Feels almost like a Vita game.
Re: Nintendo Badge Arcade is Pinned Down For a 13th November Release in Europe
@teamshortcut It looks a bit like that when you have it installed. Don't know why.
Re: Review: Rodea the Sky Soldier (Wii U)
Any game that goes through this kind of development hell will have its bumps. Glad to get it, though.
Re: The Next Nintendo Direct is on 12th November
Nice that they're doing one, but I can't say there's really anything I'm anticipating. I'm looking forward to next week's Stella Glow (sorry, Europe), FE Fates, Bravely Second, SMTxFE, Project X Zone 2, Final Fantasy Explorers, and a few others. But my dance card is a bit full right now with Rise of the Tomb Raider, Fallout 4, along with Forza 6 and my never-ending run through Hyrule Warriors.
Re: Nintendo Badge Arcade is Pinned Down For a 13th November Release in Europe
I do rather enjoy this on my Japanese system. A good way to kill 5 or 10 minutes each day.
Re: Nintendo of America Confirms Holiday Season Mall Tour
I remember malls.
Re: Super Smash Bros. + Splatoon Wii U Hardware Bundle Emerges in GameStop Black Friday Advert
@Gridatttack Forza and Sunset Overdrive were the exclusives that got me to pull the trigger. I'm waiting for the PS4 to be similarly attractive before I pick one up.
@LztheQuack That's far from true to me.
Re: Video: New Hyrule Warriors Legends Video Shows More Footage of Tetra in Action
I'll still treat the Wii U version as the main one, considering the limitations of the 3DS. Nice to be able to play it on the go, but comparing Samurai Warriors Chronicles on 3DS to a console or Vita version is no contest.
Re: Feature: How Mario Kart Brought Two Soul Mates Together
Quite happy for you both. I've had two relationships that formed over games, though they were local multiplayer. Got to know a wonderful woman while playing marathon rounds of Wii Bowling, and my current relationship owes a lot to Mario Kart 8. And simultaneously cursing very loudly at the television.
Re: Random: Looks Like Ratchet & Clank Have Been Taking Tips From The Star Fox Team
"It proves that there's room for cute, family-friendly action games on the next generation of consoles, amid all the brown and grey-coloured military shooters."
A stereotype that's as inaccurate as it is lazy.
Re: EA Will Evaluate "Any And All Opportunities" When It Comes To Nintendo And NX
I'd be very happy to get SSX NX. That said, I don't think they view it as something personal. They dropped the Vita rather early on as well. If the NX struggles out of the gate, I doubt EA will release many games beyond the launch window.
Re: Nintendo Is Making Female Characters Cover Up For The Western Version Of Xenoblade Chronicles X
@Adamario Thank you for saying something I couldn't have said nearly as clearly.
Re: Nintendo Is Making Female Characters Cover Up For The Western Version Of Xenoblade Chronicles X
Against the principle of censorship, but I'm not bothered by this at all. I cut Japan some slack when it comes to high-school age 17-year old thing, as we can look at the 90210-ish example of 30-somethings playing those roles. But 13? Yikes.
Re: Preview: Hitting the Courts in Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash
Much like their 3DS counterparts, I think a golf title would have been stronger than tennis. I actually really like the 3DS tennis title, but not as one I bury hours and hours in. It's much harder to sell a Wii U game as being the same kind of pick-up-and-play experience.
Re: Nintendo Shares Suffer Major Drop as Investors React to Miitomo and Its Delay
@Kage_88 Oh. Yeah. I wanted THAT stuck in my head all morning...
Re: Nintendo Has Unannounced Wii U And 3DS Titles Ready For Launch Before The Year End
I hope it's not the new Rhythm Heaven if it's going to be eShop only. I'd like that on cartridge—the Japanese version is brilliant.
Re: Nintendo Shares Suffer Major Drop as Investors React to Miitomo and Its Delay
I'm glad that they aren't going down the established—and broken—model of mobile games. I like that they're trying something different, a different way to interact. It's what we expect of Nintendo. That said, I can't say I'm terribly excited by this, and I agree that while this will probably be huge in Japan, the lower population density especially here in North America makes it a harder sell. I'll be curious to see what else they come up with down the road.