Electronic Arts is one of the industry's publishing veterans and has been known to make-or-break the fortunes of consoles in the past. The company threw its weight behind the Mega Drive / Genesis during the 16-bit era and helped Sega score a notable victory over Nintendo, but by the time the Dreamcast arrived a few years later EA had withdrawn its support and Sony was the key beneficiary, dominating the market in a way that hadn't been seen since the days of the NES.
More recently, EA's support for the Wii U has been painfully limited, despite pre-launch assurances that it enjoyed an "unprecedented partnership" with Nintendo, and the absence of key names like FIFA and Madden has had a telling impact on the system's commercial performance.
With NX on the horizon and third-party support being a key area Nintendo needs to nail this time around, it's unsurprisingly that questions are being asked regarding EA's support of the new system.
During EA's Q2 2016 earnings call last week, The Benchmark Company's Mike Hickey put the following query to EA CEO Andrew Wilson:
...thinking about Nintendo's NX platform, the dev chips have apparently shipped. It looks like it's working towards a calendar year 2016 launch. Just wondering how you plan to manage your resources to that emerging platform. Do you anticipate being more aggressive on the front end? Or perhaps a little bit more cautious, given the Wii U underperformed expectations?
Wilson's reply went around the houses somewhat:
I'm going to address that slightly differently. As we look to the future, we see a world where more people are playing on more platforms in more geographies than ever before. We see the platform cycle now, not just as a traditional six-year console cycle, but as a six-month refresh rate on mobile devices, smart TVs, Internet-enabled refrigerators, or whatever it might be.
And what we're doing, in terms of resource allocation, is really investing at a core digital platform level, at an engine level, and at a game architecture level, to ensure that we are able to deliver amazing experiences; 6 inches to 60 inches, and beyond; two minutes to two hour session times, and beyond; across any and all relevant devices where gamers are playing.
And as it relates to Nintendo, we've had a tremendous relationship with them over the years. And we will evaluate any and all opportunities with them, in the same way we do all platform opportunities.
What do you make of these comments? Will EA come out all guns blazing when NX arrives, or could we see another Nintendo hardware generation with little to no support from EA? Let us know by posting a comment below.
[source nintendo-insider.com]
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I bet he was twirling his moustache and cackling when he said that.
In other words. "Yep we aren't making games next gen either..."
I won't hold them to it.
Most Nintendo fans will say who cares they don't need them but this will be a major sign of the NX will get quality 3rd party support. This is actually very important for Nintendo!
EA did bring a lot of their games to the Wii and DS, and initially also to the Wii U but they probably didn't sold enough to warrant further support. Hopefully the NX sells well, so that third party will keep releasing their games on it. For the moment, the only EA game I'm looking forward to is Mirror's Edge Catalyst so it would be cool if they ported it to the NX.
Even if the NX only secures a handful of big 3rd party releases each year it has to make sure FIFA is one of them if it is to be a success.This is the first console I've ever owned where I don't have a football game and as a Nintendo only gamer I'd be lying if I said it doesn't annoy me.If only Konami would have taken a chance and gave us a Pro Evo.
Or in other words, "We won't make any games for your system if it's not a Wii 2.0."
Nintendo told EA to screw off when they tried to make the E-shop Origin. EA is not coming back to Nintendo, at least not in any substantial relationship.
@ikki5 Money trumps all that. If there's money to be made they will come back. I don't see it happening though unless the systems are flying off the shelves like the ps4.
@ikki5 Yeah I'm taking this with a grain of salt.
Hopefully they support the NX. I won't be buying their games but it'll be nice for everyone else into their games
I think EA has no reason to try the NX again. The damage is done so to speak. They have 2 near Identical plate forms in the PS4/XBone and PS3/XB360 for a very long time. People have also gone use to owning either a PS/XB, PC and a Nintendo Console. Out of all the major third party publishers out there the only one I have any respect for is Activision as they seem to be the only one willing to support Nintendo at the same as the others. Ubisoft is erratic at best.
I personally don't care about EA at all.
I'm calling it. EA is full of crap and has no intention of publishing a game for NX or any Nintendo system ever again.
"It looks like it's working towards a calendar year 2016 launch."
I would have preferred that in the title rather than EA, but it's EA, so I get it.
I don't think EA can really answer that question until they know what NX is. (Though maybe they already do?) If it's built on similar architecture as PS4 and X1 and it's easy to port then I think they would. If it's similar to Wii U hardware (8 Gamecubes duct taped together?) moved into the Gamepad for portable play then maybe they won't. And of course sales and marketing matter. I think it's up to Nintendo to give EA a reason to support it's console - make it attractive at a reasonable price and market it well. Yes, the Wii U sells poorly in part b/c of no Madden and FIFA, but also the $100 price increase over Wii at launch, the name confusion, etc. It's not EA's job to sell the NX, its EA's job to make their shareholders money.
Also possible the NX is 4DS w/ TV out running on tablet like technology. I don't think that anymore, but it's still a possibility until we know otherwise.
EA does deserve ridicule and scorn for that "unprecedented partnership" remark, so similar to Bush's "Mission Accomplished" moment, but I still can't fault them for abandoning Wii U, and I don't expect them to publish on NX unless it sells really really well before that.
"We see the platform cycle now, not just as a traditional six-year console cycle, but as a six-month refresh rate on mobile devices, smart TVs, Internet-enabled refrigerators, or whatever it might be."
I agree with that. Nintendo fans need to get out of this antiquated way of thinking in terms of 5-6 year cycles. It's 2015, mobile rules all and new $600 phones are coming out on a yearly basis... and people are upgraded in droves every year to 2 years.
This is why I'm not worried about NX's "mid cycle" launch next year; I believe Nintendo, under a new regime, will be welcoming a new console on a much more frequent basis going forward. I look for them to launch the NX's successor right in line with the PS5 and XB2.
They'll probably throw a Fifa and Madden on the NX launch wall and see if it sticks. If not, see ya next system EA...
I'd be very happy to get SSX NX. That said, I don't think they view it as something personal. They dropped the Vita rather early on as well. If the NX struggles out of the gate, I doubt EA will release many games beyond the launch window.
They'll probably only develop for it if NX becomes successful.
This also hints a 2016 NX launch. A sign of a sudden drop of the Wii u.
@Vineleaf to me this sounds like we have no plans of making a game for the NX and it is coming in 2016 in mid gen.
They'll give it the same chance they give every console. If the initial games sell like PS4 and Xbone games they will continue... If they sell like Wii U games, they'll stop.
@allav866 they might not be that many left.
@Peach64 the Dreamcast did not have any EA games.
Jargon, jargon, jargon. Blah, blee, bloo.
/increduluous/ NOW you want to support Nintendo-? I know that you outright refused to support the Nintendo- Entertainment System until your shareholders threatened to abandon you.
The only real question is, how hard will it be to port games to the system. If it is similar enough to what ever else is out, it will get the games regardless of sales, if it is in any way complicted then you will get excuses and abandonment.
The gist of what he is saying is good for possible support of NX. He sees games as continuing projects that reach across all relevant hardware. This is a lesson from their success in leveraging mobile.
As far as what happened with Wii U. Nothing is confirmed but it was not "let's see how it does" and then they pulled out. It was "let's dump what we have and move on" before it even launched.
who needs ea games anyway
I could care less for EA's games, but I do care about third party support. The more support the better, even if it's EA. All I'd like to see is Ubisoft come back on board because I have enjoyed their games since the GCN days. Here's to hoping for a Zombi2 on the NX, but I'll probably see pigs flying before that happens.
God I don't really care about what EA have to say tbh. I'm just DYING to find out what the NX is already. I'm totally ready for new Nintendo systems! Of course I have a WiiU since launch, but it never really gets turned on over the past year in my place, just lost interest in it.
But we prob won't hear anything about it till the new first quarter which is in March or April right? Then e3 with a launch in October.
"Internet-enabled refrigerators"
Wat??
@SuperCharlie78 they are a thing. Google them, been around for a couple years.
Totally useless of course. But he's just pointing out how fast technology changes in short periods of time.
So...were they interviewing this guy's ass?
"EA: And as it relates to Nintendo, We’ve had a tremendous relationship with them over the years"
..., ..., yeah, a tremendous relationship, specially in this generation (sarcams); EA and it's double face..., it's a shame that EA have excellent/great franchises/games and it's reputation is very, very sad...
So, what I'm getting from that quote is that EA views the NX as being on par with a smart fridge.
If there's one developer I'd prefer never to support a Nintendo console again it's EA. All the others I'd welcome back, so long as the NX gets treated equally with the others, even if I had no interest in their games.
"We're not making anything until NX proves to be such a market force it becomes stupid not to."
Truth be told I don't really care, I would buy fifa if EA released a version equal to ps4 xb1 that's about it
"We see the platform cycle now, not just as a traditional six-year console cycle, but as a six-month refresh rate on mobile devices, smart TVs, Internet-enabled refrigerators, or whatever it might be."
This is a dangerous precedent to follow, for many reasons. The most egregious point being that they see electronics as quickly disposable devices to be tossed into the trash when they're not new anymore (and usually not be truly recycled), rather than as long term investments to get the most use out of for that time period in technology. This trend shows a lack of respect for those who create and manufacture these devices, demonstrates a lack of care for the environment, and proves that they care more about short term profits than long term stability.
This philosophy probably extends throughout their business. It's the the perfect candidate to crash and burn due to eventual overgrowth.
If games are easy to port for NX and Nintendo allows EA Access then i see no reason for EA not to support it. EA Access could actually work pretty well with Virtual Console and some this generation games under same subscribtion. Plants Vs Zombies games fit for both home console and handheld so those could be one of the first games they port to NX.
The fact that I can play Madden and FIFA 13 on my Gamepad alone makes them the most played versions of those titles for me... just do that EA, no need to get innovative.
Yeah EA's "special relationship" produced exactly f*** all content.
Let's evaluate EA's brief "unprecedented partnership" with Nintendo during the lifespan of the Wii U, shall we?
FIFA 13 – FIFA 12 on PS3/Xbox360 with a roster update; last-gen consoles received a full upgrade.
Madden NFL 13 – Exclusive to North America. Sloppy, rushed port.
Mass Effect 3 – Late port; released at the same time that the entire trilogy was released on other platforms (for the same price as standalone Wii U game!). No DLC support whatsoever.
Need For Speed: Most Wanted U – Released about six months after other consoles (and at full price while the game was less than half the price on other platforms); still buggy, included first DLC pack on-disc with no further DLC support whatsoever
Four games. Four friggin' games. ALL of which were inferior to their last-gen counterparts. They only have themselves to blame for poor sales. Just click on "Publisher: Electronic Arts" and you'll see that the Wii and DS in fact had "unprecedented support" with a rich and diverse library of games. EA didn't do jack when it came to the 3DS and Wii U and even if they come to their senses and support the NX, I doubt that I'd support them. Maybe… just maybe I'd consider a FIFA game if it is at least on par with current gen systems but I wouldn't hold my breath. They own/control some of gaming's biggest franchises and they've turned practically everything to "poo".
Basically: "We'll see whether or not it's worth doing it before we commit to anything"
Which is a fair enough answer really. Can't expect them to make the games if we then don't buy them....again.
Whatever,EA
EA are not my fav studio but with the sports games and star wars etc plus more quality games they would be a welcome addition too any Nintendo platform but without all the origin, broken games and DLC ball rubbish tho.
People are thinking about themselves and thats fine, I also dont care about madden or fifa. But we have to think about the somewhat casual gamer, and the impact they have on buying games for the system. We want the NX to be successful as that means better support from Nintendo, bigger Nintendo franchises on the system, and even the not so big like Kid Icarus, etc. It wont be successful only with the Nintendo fan base, the Wii U proved that, thats why Nintendo is giving up on the system. WE must understand that, that 3rd parties are important for the system even If we ( people who daily read this site aka Nintendo fans) dont care about those games, as the system can only be a success with them on board.
@RCMADIAX
Hopefully your "games" aren't going to be on it either.
Seriously, this is one of the stupidest lines of thinking I've ever read: "Buy a Nintendo system for Nintendo games, otherwise get an Xbox or PlayStation branded system for everything else."
And it's also one of the reasons Nintendo is in the boat it's in now.
Very simple, If they believe they will make money from NX title's then they will make them. If they do not believe that they will make money on NX titles, then they will not develop for that console. What he said was that they will take advantage of any opportunities to make money with Nintendo...
It depends what games they release.
If they put brand new titles on the NX and they don't sell, then I'll accept their excuse that Nintendo fans only buy Mario and Zelda.
If they try pulling the same stunt they did when the Wii U launched....that is, try and fob us off with a port of last year's FIFA game, try to fob us off with a full price late port of Mass Effect 3 whilst other formats are getting the entire trilogy for the same price (and stand alone Mass Effect 3 is cheaper), and an extremely late and very overpriced port of a Need For Speed game and they still wonder why they can't sell games to Nintendo fans, then they're a bunch of hypocrites who have created the problem themselves.
@DrkBndr to be fair, just because a game is available doesn't mean it deserves great sales. Pretty much all of EA's Wii U games were late ports that could have been purchased far cheaper on other platforms at the same time.
Mass Effect 3 is a game very much dependant on its predecessors in order to get the full experience, so EA decides to release just ME3 with a few token features for $60 within weeks of the other consoles getting the Mass Effect Trilogy release for the same price.
FIFA 13 was really just FIFA 12 with a few (admittedly interesting) Wii U features but lacking most of the improvements and features of FIFA 13 proper.
Madden 13 was a decent port but also missing some key features of Madden 13 on other platforms.
Need for Speed was a great game with a great port but it also arrived months late, cost a full $60 when it was getting discounted on other platforms and didn't receive any additional dlc other games got.
The pattern isn't much better from other developers. You so often see late releases for full price, lacking features, hell there were even a couple of cases where the Wii U version of a game is delayed so that the game can be released or re-released on other platforms with the same features.
The sad truth is that third parties want to release games late and/or lacking key features or dlc and still expect the reception of a blockbuster triple-A title from the Nintendo audience
As much as I would love EA to support the "NX," if they release only (a small amount of) low-quality content for it as they did for Wii U, of course Nintendo will never see their support!
I want to see EA games on Nintendo platforms but not at the cost of Nintendo losing their individuality of their consoles. If the support offered is anything like the 'Unprecedented Support' they promised in the past, we will probably be a little underwhelmed by it. Wasn't there a report from one of the developers of the EA ports complaining that they had no support, no marketing budget, and were basically told to shove the project out the door...
Personally, I could really care less about EA. Most of their franchises really don't interest me (the yearly sports fodder, Battlefield, Need For Speed, etc.) other than Dragon Age. I feel like they've also mishandled some franchises in the past and brought them to ruin.
I do admit that to the credit of the NX's health, these games that I hate would definitely be welcome for third-party support. I wouldn't buy them, but it would sweeten the deal for those that eat these yearly games up.
@Darknyht
+1 In your comment.
I'm just one of the suckers that really wants games like FIFA and Madden to be there even I hate EA with a burning passion. I'd just like those games to be there so I could buy them if I wanted
@sillygostly
He says "we've had a tremendous relationship with them over the years".
The 'over the years' bit seems relevant. It's only this gem they haven't put anything out on Nintendo. The 'Cube in particular got tons of EA games.
@Trinexx
Having played an hour of the new Need For Speed last night, they've finished that franchise off now. Dreadful.
However, EA support is vital for any machine. Very hard to sell a console without sports games.
I don't really care about EA, but it is a company that the NX would probably need on board, in terms of third-party support...even if they are a rather crappy company...
I don't really care about EA, but it is a company that the NX would probably need on board, in terms of third-party support...even if they are a rather crappy company...
So he basically said nothing at all.
Tremendous? Yeah a tremendous series of disasters since 2001.
Don't get your hopes up. Depending on NX's final specs, we'll probably only see cheap ports of games already released for the other consoles and PC a couple of years ago.
Apart from the Mass Effect series, there are very little EA games that I like anyway. I wouldn't cry over the absence of EA NX games.
I hope Nintendo does not do something weird with the NX. Please traditional console with the portable / TV setup. No weird controllers just a great game engine.
@RCMADIAX lol, does this include yourself?
Eff EA and Ubisoft regarding their comments. Produce, or don't, but don't make promises you can't keep. It's the principle of it, whether money was lost on the Wii U or not. Put your money where your mouth is or keep it shut. Games or silence, I'll take either from them.
Make or break consoles?
I can't think of a single interesting thing they make besides Mass Effect at the moment.
I don't know how to feel about this. EA is the only video game company I actively hold a grudge against, and refuse to buy anything from. Sorry Battlefront..
What exactly is this "tremendous relationship" they keep talking about ?
His choice of words disgust me. Typical beating around the bush so he doesn't have to address the situation of the Wii U. Given how it has performed it's not like a bit of honesty is going to do it much harm, if any at all.
They just need to figure out how to microtaxation the NX ports first.
Motion Control support for only $2.99!
If I want to play an EA game, I'll plug in my Genesis. The sports games are essentially the same now as they were then. Any IP's they have can suck a big hairy d.......
God knows you just never know with Nintendo, I'm hoping they still support the Wii u as I think it's one of their best consoles but I'm also looking forward to the nx.
EA=We only love Xbox we are just forced to make games for the PS4.Also a ton of DLC and always online.Who is ready for that.NOT ME.But we all know no NX support.(to finsh this post 5.99 per word) just a joke.
EA= electronic donkey
i only liked the sims... which would have worked great building houses with the game pad
"The company threw its weight behind the Mega Drive / Genesis during the 16-bit era and helped Sega score a notable victory over Nintendo"
What??? The SNES beat the Genesis in almost every market (except Europe where the Mega Drive won by minimum margin) selling 49 million units worldwide and the Genesis Mega Drive sold only 29 million units,
@Quinn_Blackwood For many years, the Sega Genesis outsold the SNES in most regions of the world. In NA, Sega was the top console maker until 1994, when Nintendo made a comeback with Donkey Kong Country.
But the funny thing is that Nintendo never truly beat Sega. Nintendo won because Sega's managment at the time were idiots, and they did not realize the value of the Genesis and 16-bit software in western markets. Because the Genesis had never caught on in Japan(the only region where the SNES outright beat the Genesis), the Japanese CEO of Sega opted to push back support for the the Genesis worldwide in favor of the the Saturn. Which pretty much handed the entire 16-bit market to Nintendo on a silver platter.
One funny thing to note is that in 1998, both the SNES and Genesis were being sold as budget systems, and the two rivals staged one last battle as the Playstation and N64 stole their spotlight.
The Genesis by all accounts beat the SNES in the final battle of the 16-bit war.
History tends to paint the SNES as the winner, and I won't argue that point. But I was there during the 16-bit wars, and history tends to forget how hot the Sega Genesis was in NA in the early 90's.
And while Sonic played a major role in that success, it was EA's support that helped push the Genesis's success.
EA will probably test the waters during the NX's launch. If their games sell well, then they will continue to support the NX. It their games sell poorly (like all of their Wii U "efforts"), then they will drop NX support.
I evaluate all EA games on all platforms and then decide not to buy them.
I got sick of EA's dismissive attitude towards the Wii U and its owners; so I refuse to give them a single cent of my money. In the event that they do put out a game I actually want I just wait and pick it up used.
Sorry what? Something something refrigerators, 60 inches, 2 minutes and beyond? ok!
@OorWullie They do have a Madden and FIFA game for the Wii U...it's just the 2014 versions, but they do have them...other than that, no, the Wii U has no real sports games...which is something that they should at least have. Seems like the Wii U is just platform adventures, and barely anything else. Hopefully, the NX has a good decent variety and they really work on the 3rd party issue that they're having, or it's going to be another Wii U, and I feel that if they have another system like the Wii U...they're count their blessings in systems and just stick with handheld.
@Caryslan The 16 bit era was definitely a great time. My cousin had the Super NES so I bought the Genesis. I remember Mortal Kombat coming out for both...the genesis got the version with the blood code, while the Super NES had no blood (they sweated to death) and the fatalities were cheesy on the Super NES. The only difference, besides the gore, was the arcade sound, which Super NES had that definitive sound. Other than that, I ended up loving the Genesis more, but always came back to the Nintendo consoles...still loving the Gamecube over the PS2 for some reason (I think it's the controller, but I'm still not sure why I enjoyed the games on gamecube more...even the ones that appeared on both).
@JLPick I'm not sure about Madden but FIFA is the 2013 version which itself was a reskin of 2012 which came out in Autumn 2011 for the PS3 and 360.I only got my Wii U last December so even by then it was 3 years out of date. I'm a huge football fan so playing with such out of date squads would have really bothered me so I decided to give it a miss.If they give us a up to date version that is the same as everyone else gets and it flops then it's understandable if EA drop support.With the Wii U they gave us old games that were in the bargain bin for other consoles and charged us full price for them then blamed Wii U owners for not buying them.Need for Speed was great and deserved better but it's understandable why it didn't sell well.Mass Effect 3 was just a kick in the teeth.
@electrolite77 : I had already pointed that out as there was no shortage of EA games on Wii and DS, but EA had only released 4 games on Wii U to date (ALL of which were inferior to other versions; and of the four games, only one was released after the Wii U's launch period). This hardly constitutes a partnership, especially since these sloppy ports had jeopardised any future third party support as fans had become fed up with ports that were lesser products than what was available on other systems.
I would have bought Fifa 13 if it were on par with the other systems, no question, but I wasn't going to support a full priced release that was not at least on par with the "real" Fifa 13 experience on 360/PS3/PC. And then they have the nerve to not rectify their mistake the following year, blaming their customers for poor sales when they're the ones that released a substandard product.
They've pissed on every good franchise they've ever had. I was a HUGE fan of The Sims (EA), but I noticed the franchise going to hell around halfway through the lifespan of The Sims 2 ("stuff packs" comprised of content that was originally intended for a full expansion pack, "The Sims 2 Store"; SecuRom; EA switching from the U.S. version to the U.K. version in Australia, causing discrepancies in the data and potentially corrupting save data unless one manually modifies the system registry). EA can release as much content for The Sims as they please, but I want to be able to buy them in the form of a disc. Locking off content behind prohibitively expensive DLC (and via Origin) is unacceptable considering the already high price (and frequency) of expansion packs. I stopped buying The Sims 2 packs due to some of the reasons above, but I eventually got around to completing my collection after they had become dirt cheap. I have little to no interest in The Sims 3 or 4. I believe The Sims 3 alone has at least 25 expansion packs (this figure includes stuff and neighbourhood packs). Unfortunately, this pig of a company is still laughing it up to the bank, and I will savour the day that they crash and burn, as they deserve.
If EA releases Mass Effect Trilogy/Andromeda Definitive Edition for NX, I will buy those games a fourth time. Aside from that, I want a new Road Rash and maybe a return to the Strike series.
Beyond that, it's just American Ubisoft.
@Quinn_Blackwood The notable victory was sports games on the Megadrive were superior to the SNES versions mostly everytime,they just played and looked better on the Megadrive. EA/NHL Hockey,FIFA,Madden,PGA Tour,Sensible Soccer,Super Kick Off,Mutant League Football/Hockey,NBA Jam,Speedball 2,the list goes on. Plus the Megadrive had fantastic exclusives like European Club Soccer,Pete Sampras Tennis,Super Monaco GP 2, Mario Lemieux Hockey,Arnold Palmer Golf,Joe Montana Football,Evander Holyfield Boxing,Greatest Heavyweights. If you liked sports games,the Megadrive was certainly the place to be,same goes for shoot-em-ups.While I'm at it,the SNES also missed out on Road Rash 2 and 3 and the Strike series was far better on the Megadrive.
Where i lived as kid Nintendo was king. We didn't have that "Nintendon't" marketing in Finland and almost every kid in neighborhood had NES so buying SNES with Super Mario World or All-Stars was common thing. I knew two guys who had 16-bit sega back then so we usually switched our consoles for few weeks so we could try and enjoy games from both systems.
So, will EA sabotage their NX titles like they did with their Wii U titles so they feel they won't need to develop for it anymore? Tune in next time.
"tremendous relationship" lol ok. I'm pretty sure they sung the same tune before the Wii U launched.
This essentially means that like with the Wii U they will probably support the NX in its early months and if sales aren't promising then they will ditch it and I can't really fault them for that. EA is a business and a business needs to make money in order to stay afloat. Hopefully they have better luck with the NX.
@DarkJamD PvZ and PvZ2, PvZ GW and GW2 That would be awesome. I love those games.
@Ryu_Niiyama Will they even see it as next gen?
I currently own a Wii U for the exclusives, a Xbox One for the exclusives and certain third parties for multiplayer with friends, and a PC for the Valve games, other third parties I don't get at launch and indies. So long as Nintendo takes advantage of their first parties with great DLC's and innovates with new crossovers, has a simple online service, and makes the freaking console hardware better than PS4 and One then I have no problems. I don't know why people complain about EA, Activision, etc. because truth be told everyone has some favorite series or game(s) from them. You'll get the new console regardless if you claim to be this "fanboy" and "love Nintendo" no matter what. Also, if you're a true gamer, you'll upgrade regardless most people (especially ones that record and stream and want to be relevant) already own a beefy PC so owning most if not all console platforms isn't new it's just a part of the lifestyle.
The day EA give a Nintendo machine its full support and delivers on the promises it makes is the day hell freezes over and I become Pope.
Have you? Where have you been and what games have you released on a Nintendo system that were; a) wanted by Nintendo owners and b) not shoddy ports (a 'la NFS on Wii) or 'waggle' games?
What tremendous relationship? You mean the relationship where you've ignored us and pretended we don't exist for the last 5 years?
Bunch of a***holes.
@Caryslan Yes, I read that story in Blake J. Harris's Console Wars and I understand the Genesis momentum Kalinske gave the Genesis in the early 90's but still the SNES sold 20 million more units than the Genesis worldwide! I just don't understand why people keep saying that the Genesis beat SNES, How? Even Super Mario World singlehandly sold more units than the main 4 Sonic games together! Explain to me, please, how the Genesis beat the SNES and please don't say Blast Processor!
@OorWullie My point is that the SNES beat the Genesis selling more than 20 millions units than the Genesis worldwide, I'm not arguing about who had better sports games. At the end of the day I liked platforms and the SNES was the place to be with all the Nintendo exclusives. But saying that the Genesis beat the SNES because the Genesis had more exclusives sports games it's like saying the Wii U is winning this generation because it has more 2D platforms.
@Quinn_Blackwood I kind of went off on one,my old Sega fanboy came back there haha.In the end,it might not have beaten it in sales worldwide except for in Europe but when they were going head to head with each other Sega was on top for the most part.Nintendo only pulled ahead once Sega practically abandoned the MD and moved onto the their new ill-fated hardware.The reason the MD was doing so well against the SNES was largely due to having the best sports sims and back in those days it was all about 1-upping each other.SNES could claim to have the best RPG's and platformers so that was a 'notable victory' for them,MD could claim to have the best sports sims and shoot-em-ups.
Let's answer the question without answering the question!
But let's be fair here, EA is going to do what every other 3rd party game developer is going to do, wait to see if the NX is actually successful or not and if it is, port their multiplatform games to it.
And if it's really, really, successful, consider making exclusives for it.
You can't expect a company to openly support a system before it goes public and they gauge the public's reactions and the sales.
@OorWullie I'm sure Genesis lost the war at the end when Nintendo released Donkey Kong Country, Sega released Vectorman one year later and it failed, Sega of America did support a little bit more the Genesis when the Saturn came out but Nintendo released DKC 2, Yoshi's Island, DKC 3 even when the N64 was out in the market and those games were a blast! That "killed" the great momentum Genesis. The funny thing is that the Genesis was my least favorite console Sega made but I loved the Saturn and the Dreamcast, the Genesis not that much, maybe because I hate sports games with some exceptions like Nintendo World Cup or International Super Star Soccer Deluxe back in the days.
should have added the "LOL" to the tags
Because EA is just that freakin' awesome.........
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