Wanting to innovate instead of iterate is fine. I like that. But sometimes that bar is too high. No Waverace or F-Zero because they can't think of a new thing to do with them, for example. I would argue that each game doesn't need to be a completely new experience, that an older concept on newer hardware is frequently plenty.
It's the same with hardware, really. So new, unique ideas are great. Having them get in the way of producing for your audience, however, is not. Nintendo needs to innovate, not reinvent the wheel with every idea. That's the way of winding up with the occasional tech demo but no real content.
@Bagels "But in Pokemon,Nintendogs,etc. you don't get pokemon/dogs/etc. spouting lines of dialogue implying incestual relationships and you don't get to walk in on your Pokemon/Nintendogs bathing."
I know you're making a serious point, but I can't stop laughing at this.
I got a Vita for niche games, and the 3DS does okay with Atlus support.
But it's pretty simple, and I say this as someone still getting the basics of Japanese down: knock it off with the region locking. Let me import Rhythm Heaven and the like without having to buy a system.
Then, as others have said, just do subtitles. I don't need voice acting in every game.
I can't believe that NIS America is getting killed bringing Vita titles to the West, and we know the install base. So I'd rather Nintendo not be so dismissive of us and our ability to read the market.
It saves costs, but the problem is that the eShop is a two-dimensional environment. Three-dimenstional physical retail allows a consumer to browse around easily and fluidly and for multiple levels. A screen can't match that, and I for one find it very frustrating to browse on the eShop compared to a game store.
That's just me. If this is the route they want to go down, then it's time to actually hire a marketing department.
I'd like Zero Suit Samus and Olimar, but it's possible I'll be in the middle of moving across the country that day. I'll trade a better job for two amiibo, though.
I did my part and bought the Fire Emblem games. And my copy of Animal Crossing was from the same week sales went over 4 million, so that's cool. This Rhythm Heaven game, though, is magnificent - my favourite in the series so far.
It doesn't feel like the X1 and U are direct competitors. The U is getting comparatively killed in the West and the X1 is lucky to outsell the Vita TV in any given week in Japan.
I liked how Animal Crossing was straight forward: you buy the game and play the game and enjoy the hell out of the game. This money-grab from compulsive collectors is a bit much.
Plenty of blame to go around, I feel. The third-party publishers are making an economic decision, one that hurts their standing with Nintendo fans. It's also hurting Nintendo's console sales. The best solution seems to be Nintendo developing in conjunction with the third parties, everyone doing a better marketing job, and finding ways not only for a larger install base, but ine that wants multiplats on Nintendo instead of something else.
I mean? You can't blame a developer or publisher for not wanting to lose money through poor sales on a system. That's not great PR, but it's not laziness either. It's a sensible business move. Something has to change in the console dynamic to shake everyone out of this position.
I'm still baffled by how much they're pushing Isabelle. She's just been in the one game, and she's the kind of saccharine cute like the alpacas at ReTail that feels a bit much for the series.
Please let the NX either stream games or have proper built-in storage. 16.4gb for one game totaling more than half of the "deluxe" version's storage is crazy.
@rjejr That's a good point with the way the editing in Minecraft captures the imagination of a certain age. This will probably be a good litmus test for Mario's popularity these days.
@rjejr Honestly, as a Wii U owner, this game doesn't interest me at all. But I didn't buy it for the New Super Mario Bros games either. Just not my thing.
I wish it would give a big bump, but I just don't see it. Almost all of the people I know who like the side-scrolling Mario games already have the system. I don't know that the option to generate new levels attracts the people I know.
@westman98 It wasn't on Kickstarter and their crowd funding model didn't promise a specific version. In fact, the notion that it was coming to PS3/360/Wii U/PC seems to be in their initial presentation that talked about what platforms their engine could run on.
Did the marketing folks take that and run with it? Yep. But they were very careful in their wording, and funding SMS was considered literally an investment, where you would share in quarterly profits.
@SavoirFaire Technically, all people were doing with their money was investing in the company and receiving certain perks along the way like early builds, etc. Those supporters are still entitled to a share of the profits paid quarterly, but can also get a refund if I understand correctly. The funding scheme got them into trouble. So it wasn't like Kickstarter, where it's support for specific rewards.
Also, in the overview document, they talked about the Madness engine running across platforms, including the Wii U. They never said there—or as far as I know in their WMD funding pitch—that Project CARS as a specific title was coming to the Wii U. Just that their engine could run on it. (Not well, apparently)
@kensredemption Project CARS, to my knowledge, was never on Kickstarter. It was on World of Mass Development and they got into trouble with the Financial Conduct Authority for how they were doing it.
The right call, really, and as far as I remember, they only talked about PC during their funding drive—a drive that got them in a bit of trouble with regulators in the UK.
Thinking I might get a PS4 if I get the new job/big bump in pay that looks likely. Between this, Star Wars Battlefront, and No Man's Sky, I'd spend a lot of time on that system.
I wonder if they could afford to slash the Wii U's price maybe 6-9 months before NX. I mean, I haven't always kept up with the games industry, and the $99 GCN caught my attention. There's great software there for a budget consumer. Might form a nice bridge to the next system, too.
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Re: Nintendo Not Looking To Churn Out Yearly Sequels To Its Core Franchises, Feels DLC Keeps Games Feeling Fresh
Wanting to innovate instead of iterate is fine. I like that. But sometimes that bar is too high. No Waverace or F-Zero because they can't think of a new thing to do with them, for example. I would argue that each game doesn't need to be a completely new experience, that an older concept on newer hardware is frequently plenty.
It's the same with hardware, really. So new, unique ideas are great. Having them get in the way of producing for your audience, however, is not. Nintendo needs to innovate, not reinvent the wheel with every idea. That's the way of winding up with the occasional tech demo but no real content.
Re: Awesome Mario Kart Trophies Are Now Up for Grabs on Club Nintendo in Europe and Australia
I'd love that leaf cup trophy. Ah well.
Re: Core Console Market Bigger Than Ever, Despite The Impact Of The "Wii Bubble"
@Darknyht And the DVD player in the PS2. I know a LOT of people that bought it over the GCN because they wanted a DVD player.
Re: Feature: The Unexpected Legacy of Wii Music
Sorry, I still can't picture anything but the drummer from the E3 presentation.
Re: Not Only Does Japan Have Awesome Arcades, it Has Cool 30th Anniversary Mario Prizes
Meh. Unexciting.
Re: Fire Emblem Fates Looks Set to be a Single Release in the West, According to Amazon
I'd love to be able to get all three paths together. Me being me, I'd love three cartridges in a limited edition pack. All on one would cool, though.
Re: Masahiro Sakurai Tackles Criticisms of Bonus Features in Games
I expected weeaboo to be slung around, but I expected more people to use otaku, too.
Re: Masahiro Sakurai Tackles Criticisms of Bonus Features in Games
@Bagels "But in Pokemon,Nintendogs,etc. you don't get pokemon/dogs/etc. spouting lines of dialogue implying incestual relationships and you don't get to walk in on your Pokemon/Nintendogs bathing."
I know you're making a serious point, but I can't stop laughing at this.
Re: 3DS Can Last For Another Two To Three Years In The West, Says NIS America Boss
Just keep it around long enough for us to get Etrian Odyssey 3 Untold. It would drive my OCD nuts for that to be on a different system.
Re: 3DS Can Last For Another Two To Three Years In The West, Says NIS America Boss
@EllenJMiller I cannot overstate how good the new Rhythm Heaven is. I've been playing it non-stop since I imported it.
Re: Review: Endless Golf (Wii U eShop)
Do you exit to DOS when you're finished?
Re: Chris Pranger From Nintendo Treehouse Discusses Harsh Realities Of Localisation
I got a Vita for niche games, and the 3DS does okay with Atlus support.
But it's pretty simple, and I say this as someone still getting the basics of Japanese down: knock it off with the region locking. Let me import Rhythm Heaven and the like without having to buy a system.
Then, as others have said, just do subtitles. I don't need voice acting in every game.
I can't believe that NIS America is getting killed bringing Vita titles to the West, and we know the install base. So I'd rather Nintendo not be so dismissive of us and our ability to read the market.
Re: Talking Point: Fatal Frame's Trial Version and Limited Edition Highlight Nintendo's Shifting Approach to Retail
It saves costs, but the problem is that the eShop is a two-dimensional environment. Three-dimenstional physical retail allows a consumer to browse around easily and fluidly and for multiple levels. A screen can't match that, and I for one find it very frustrating to browse on the eShop compared to a game store.
That's just me. If this is the route they want to go down, then it's time to actually hire a marketing department.
Re: Nintendo Confirms September amiibo Release Details for North America
I'd like Zero Suit Samus and Olimar, but it's possible I'll be in the middle of moving across the country that day. I'll trade a better job for two amiibo, though.
Re: Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer Dominates Japanese Charts, Boosts 3DS Sales
I did my part and bought the Fire Emblem games. And my copy of Animal Crossing was from the same week sales went over 4 million, so that's cool. This Rhythm Heaven game, though, is magnificent - my favourite in the series so far.
Re: Soapbox: It's A Tragedy That Rare Replay Isn't On A Nintendo Console
It doesn't feel like the X1 and U are direct competitors. The U is getting comparatively killed in the West and the X1 is lucky to outsell the Vita TV in any given week in Japan.
Re: Splatoon And Nintendo Dominated Japanese Retail During June
This new Rhythm Heaven title really is great fun. They should localize it. Soon.
Re: Nintendo Download: 6th August (Europe)
I would pay money to find out how many people pay for The Lost Valley's DLC.
Re: Rumour: Rodea the Sky Soldier Release Pushed Back to November
With how long we've waited for this, a month or two more doesn't hurt.
Re: Terraria Is Coming To The 3DS And Wii U, But Not Until Next Year
Just got the physical version for Vita, so I'll probably pass on this version.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Evo 2015 Champ ZeRo Is Joining Team SoloMid
He and Reggie have the exact same smile.
Re: Senran Kagura 2: Deep Crimson Bursts Out Onto European Shelves At The End Of August
I've got the Japanese version and it's great motivation for learning the language better. A shame I haven't gotten further in it.
Re: Nintendo of Europe Confirms Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer Bundles and amiibo Pack Details
@Pixelorez I didn't love that. I've never played Pokemon.
Re: Nintendo of Europe Confirms Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer Bundles and amiibo Pack Details
I liked how Animal Crossing was straight forward: you buy the game and play the game and enjoy the hell out of the game. This money-grab from compulsive collectors is a bit much.
Re: Editorial: Super Smash Bros. Should be Integral to Nintendo's NX Future
Ugh. Good business decision? Sure. But I don't like the game and I'm sick enough of hearing about it to the point of loathing.
Re: Nintendo NX Might Be The First Social VR Platform, Claims Analyst Firm Digi-Capital
There are getting to be fewer and fewer places I can go in gaming and be anti-social.
Re: Talking Point: Wii U Gamers Have Been Treated Poorly By The Third-Party Retail Scene, But The System Still Brings Joy
@jfavreau I still haven't forgiven you for Couples Retreat.
Re: Talking Point: Wii U Gamers Have Been Treated Poorly By The Third-Party Retail Scene, But The System Still Brings Joy
Plenty of blame to go around, I feel. The third-party publishers are making an economic decision, one that hurts their standing with Nintendo fans. It's also hurting Nintendo's console sales. The best solution seems to be Nintendo developing in conjunction with the third parties, everyone doing a better marketing job, and finding ways not only for a larger install base, but ine that wants multiplats on Nintendo instead of something else.
I mean? You can't blame a developer or publisher for not wanting to lose money through poor sales on a system. That's not great PR, but it's not laziness either. It's a sensible business move. Something has to change in the console dynamic to shake everyone out of this position.
Re: Animal Crossing New 3DS Cover Plates Coming To Europe In October
I'm still baffled by how much they're pushing Isabelle. She's just been in the one game, and she's the kind of saccharine cute like the alpacas at ReTail that feels a bit much for the series.
Re: Japanese Devil's Third Site Details Online Modes, Microtransactions And File Size
Please let the NX either stream games or have proper built-in storage. 16.4gb for one game totaling more than half of the "deluxe" version's storage is crazy.
Re: If Chibi-Robo Ever Came To Wii U, He'd Be Very, Very Shiny
@Ichiban If you manage to collect three amiibo you 100% the game?
Re: Nintendo Download: 23rd July (North America)
I am shocked SHOCKED that an Atlus game is on discount.
Nothing I need this week.
Re: Nintendo Explains Reasoning Behind Upcoming Miiverse Redesign
I just can't find a reason to use it, honestly. But I generally avoid social networks and only use Twitter as it's connected to my blog.
I'm feeling old.
Re: Talking Point: Assessing the Odds of Super Mario Maker Making a Commercial Splash This September
@rjejr That's a good point with the way the editing in Minecraft captures the imagination of a certain age. This will probably be a good litmus test for Mario's popularity these days.
Re: Talking Point: Assessing the Odds of Super Mario Maker Making a Commercial Splash This September
@rjejr Honestly, as a Wii U owner, this game doesn't interest me at all. But I didn't buy it for the New Super Mario Bros games either. Just not my thing.
Re: Talking Point: Assessing the Odds of Super Mario Maker Making a Commercial Splash This September
I wish it would give a big bump, but I just don't see it. Almost all of the people I know who like the side-scrolling Mario games already have the system. I don't know that the option to generate new levels attracts the people I know.
Re: Yoshi's Woolly World Has Limited Impact in Japan as Yo-Kai Watch Busters Dominates
Animal Crossing over 4 million. That's an insane rate of purchase considering the size of the market.
Re: Exclusive: Project CARS "Simply Too Much For Wii U", Developer Now Waiting On New Nintendo Hardware
@westman98 It wasn't on Kickstarter and their crowd funding model didn't promise a specific version. In fact, the notion that it was coming to PS3/360/Wii U/PC seems to be in their initial presentation that talked about what platforms their engine could run on.
Did the marketing folks take that and run with it? Yep. But they were very careful in their wording, and funding SMS was considered literally an investment, where you would share in quarterly profits.
Re: Exclusive: Project CARS "Simply Too Much For Wii U", Developer Now Waiting On New Nintendo Hardware
@SavoirFaire Technically, all people were doing with their money was investing in the company and receiving certain perks along the way like early builds, etc. Those supporters are still entitled to a share of the profits paid quarterly, but can also get a refund if I understand correctly. The funding scheme got them into trouble. So it wasn't like Kickstarter, where it's support for specific rewards.
Re: Exclusive: Project CARS "Simply Too Much For Wii U", Developer Now Waiting On New Nintendo Hardware
Also, in the overview document, they talked about the Madness engine running across platforms, including the Wii U. They never said there—or as far as I know in their WMD funding pitch—that Project CARS as a specific title was coming to the Wii U. Just that their engine could run on it. (Not well, apparently)
Re: Exclusive: Project CARS "Simply Too Much For Wii U", Developer Now Waiting On New Nintendo Hardware
@kensredemption Project CARS, to my knowledge, was never on Kickstarter. It was on World of Mass Development and they got into trouble with the Financial Conduct Authority for how they were doing it.
Re: Exclusive: Project CARS "Simply Too Much For Wii U", Developer Now Waiting On New Nintendo Hardware
The right call, really, and as far as I remember, they only talked about PC during their funding drive—a drive that got them in a bit of trouble with regulators in the UK.
Thinking I might get a PS4 if I get the new job/big bump in pay that looks likely. Between this, Star Wars Battlefront, and No Man's Sky, I'd spend a lot of time on that system.
Re: Don't Worry, Samus Will Be In Metroid Prime: Federation Force
Between periods during Blast Ball, Samus will come out and blow up 10,000 copies of Other M.
Re: Devil's Third is Being Published by Nintendo of America in Q4, Also Coming to PC as 'Free-to-Start' Title
It makes sense if they were concerned about there not being enough players to make online work.
Re: Video: Summing Up The Good And Bad Of Devil's Third
@Kneesofgomorrah I figured you knew that. I just couldn't resist.
Re: Video: Summing Up The Good And Bad Of Devil's Third
@Kneesofgomorrah What does any of this have to do with insects, you ignoramus?
Re: Negative Reception For Devil's Third Is Due To Poor Player Skill, Claims Tomonobu Itagaki
Can't say I was interested in Devil's Third in the first place, but at least we get a car crash of a media war out of it.
Is there any popcorn left?
Re: Splatoon Splats Top 10 NPD Position in June as Hardware Momentum Stays Positive
I wonder if they could afford to slash the Wii U's price maybe 6-9 months before NX. I mean, I haven't always kept up with the games industry, and the $99 GCN caught my attention. There's great software there for a budget consumer. Might form a nice bridge to the next system, too.
Re: Review: Lord Of Magna: Maiden Heaven (3DS)
I've grabbed it in both English and Japanese. Having a blast.
Re: Nintendo President Satoru Iwata Passes Away Aged 55
@LztheQuack I'm sorry you drew the short straw and have to clean this up. I appreciate it.