@Kirk: Not saying it's flawed in any particular way. I'm just saying the retro factor counts a LOT for people who grew up with the classics. If all Mario-games were released for the first time tomorrow as brand new games - looking, playing and sounding exactly as they were it their time - no way would SMB get as high as 10th place.
But again, my opinion and I think I'll leave it at that!
@Kirk: Well, that's where we'll have to agree to disagree... I mean, not many people today will pick up Super Mario Bros for the first time and agree it's "basically flawless". Myself, I can only play it for max 30 mins before it's enough for a couple of weeks/months...
But again, it's just my opinion, and I respect others' may differ!
I mean, I LOVE classic Mario, but for instance saying the original Mario Bros. game is a "better" game than, say New Super Mario Bros.1 + 2 is just stupid. It might have been a more important game in it's time than NSMB2 was when it came out, but now it's time has passed.
Same goes, partly, for Super Mario World. The only one of the "classics" that can still be considered a great game compared to modern games is Mario 64. That's my opinion anyways.
The same thing as always; People complain about lack of adult & 3rd party games - and when they appear, no-one buys them. Just accept that Nintendo-produced games + eShop indies are what we'll have on WiiU and be satisfied - I am...
Buy a PS4 or PC for the other stuff. (Yeah, XB1 left out on purpose )
People "demanding" this should be on WiiU are abit like those people demanding Bayonetta 2 on PS4 / XBox1. It's a lost cause.
Devs must go where the money is, and right now it's NOT on WiiU. If this thing happens at all, it'll be on PC and/or Sony/MS consoles first. There's no reason at all this should be on WiiU, even though the "spiritual successor" was a Gamecube game.
Also, people keep asking for more adult / harcore etc games on WiiU, but the thing is - you guys don't buy them! (And neither do I - but I'm happy with just Nintendo produced games The other stuff I get on PS3 (soon PS4) or PC.)
Insta-buy as expected!
Loved the first one on PS3, been waiting for this!
And with Captain Toad + Mini-Marios WiiU + Trine Enchanted coming, this action-puzzler loves his WiiU!!!
@SahashraLA It's released on the N64 so it's a N64 game. And as long as it's one of the 64 best games on the N64, it belongs on the list. Saying anything else is ridiculous.
Oh, and wasn't the Dreamcast some obscure console that only fanbois remeber that made a once-great console-producer close down it's console-division? That would make the N64 version more important, no?
Don't care what they do, moving Abe around is still like controlling a snail covered in glue - not gonna get this one either. Hated the series since the first one - but that's just me...
@WalupeachyTime Because Pac-Man and Space Invaders are thought of as singular games in the minds of non-gamers but Sonic and Mario are recognized as characters from a series of games?
Because only the "original" Pac-Man and Space Invaders are iconic like Sonic and Mario?
I've got a normal XL already but I'll of course get the new XL too. The faceplates are fun for like 5 seconds, the larger screen stays with you for ever (or as long as the console lasts anyway)..
@Don Would YOU prefer Super Mario Bros GBC, Brain Age DS and Game & Watch Gallery 3 over the 3 GBA Castlevanias? Crap games are no comfort for missing out on classic awesomeness!
I've played SMB GBC and Brain Age like ONCE each, might as well delete them to save some MBs. And even though I loved my 2-screen Donkey Kong when it was new, I'll never buy a G&W game/collection these days. They're fun for like 30 secs then you play something else...
I'll get Affordable Space Adventures, Chariot, Costume Quest 2, Shantae(!!!), Shovel Knight, Stealth Inc 2 and XeoDrifter for certain, and a maybe for Woah Dave! and The Fall.
Looks fun, wil definitely get Paper Monsters Recut. Have to see a bit more from Gears, but with a sub $5 pricetag is almost certain I'll get that too...
@Stu13 Only Americans care about crap like that, just like seeing a boob on TV. To the rest of the world, it's just another word. "F-bomb" indeed - it might just kill you to hear it!
I looked up all the games on the list on YouTube before reading the article, and Cannon Dancer and Charlie Ninja were the ones I noted to test in an emu. There rest were rather meh...
Would love to have them on WiiU as nothing beats playing classics on Nintendo consoles.
I've been back and forth on this one, but I won't get it now... Too bad Miyamoto made them stop developing a Zelda-game with Warriors elements, that would've been much more appealing (to me) than the other way around. Started hating the Warriors-series after 5 minutes of Dynasty Warriors 2 on PS2...
Does anyone know how the WiiU-tables compare to PS3? Do they have higher resolution? I've got ALL tables up to Walking Dead on PS3, but now I'm considering starting to buy the WiiU tables instead. Too bad I can't move my entire collection from PS3 to WiiU.
And yeah, Nintendo-themed tables in Zen 2 would be AWESOME!
Bergsala is a crap distributor and there's practically 0 Nintendo-presence in stores / media here in Norway. Can't see why we can't get Club Nintendo in Scandinavia too. Bergsala blames Nintendo on their pages but I don't know...
Will get Teslagrad, both Oracle Of... games, Super Mario Ball, Links Awakening and the Wooden Sen'Sey demo. Got Link to the Past & Minish Cap already, otherwise I'd get them too. Now THIS is a good week Nintendo!
Will get this the day it launches in Europe. These small eShop games are so cheap that I insta-buy them all if they get a good score just to support Nintendo/devs!
Will get this for WiiU as it's supposed to outperform PS3 / X360 - and I won't buy PS4 for another year or so. Currently inFamous is the only title I want on PS4.
Too bad, wondered who made that bad (IMHO) decision. I would rather have a Zelda game with Warriors elements than the other way around. Probably will get the game either way, but a more typical Zelda game with dungeons and exploring AND huge battle scenes would be an insta-buy for me. But... can't always get what you want I guess... :-/
Getting this day 1! Loved the first one on PS3! And everyone who DON'T buy it, loses the rights to complain about few games, lack of 3rd-party support or no mature games on the WiiU.
Seriously though, to me all your arguments seems to boil down to not being able to buy the DLC on the future retro Wii U in 10+ years... You really think that's gonna be a big concern for anyone? Plus it'll probably be available digitally on the eShop equivalent WITH all content, don't you think!?
Anyways, as countless others have said, if you don't like it - don't buy it! Your retail game is COMPLETE, this is just EXTRA stuff!
@Legromancer luke88 concurred with G0dlike that it was £11 well spent. That means he agrees, so yes - he thinks it's great. Also "half the vanillas game content"... I get what you're trying to say, but you're not quite there.
A bit torn over this. On one hand it looks great and has tons of cool stuff from the Zelda universe - on the other hand it's (possibly) a repetitive button-masher. Hmmm......
@BearHunger Yeah, really weird how they try to give their products an attractive packaging. Almost like they WANT to sell their products! REALLY weird!
I've got Luigi U and both NES Remixes, but if this trend continues I will have be more sceptical about buying Nintendo eShop-releases on day 1 as I prefer physical copies. And I don't think that's the way to go for Nintendo.
In the Nordic countries we got a terrible Nintendo-agency in Bergsala AB. There's practically zero Nintendo-presence compared to Sony and Microsoft. Add to this we haven't even got Club Nintendo. They blame this on the fact that the physical Club Nintendo magazine was to expensive to produce in the 80s!!! Don't know why Nintendo haven't replaced this zero-effort company decades ago!
I'm getting this one, but I'm waiting for a MUCH lower price tag. This isn't a game I'll play for months and months, so I'll get it when it's on sale AFTER a perm price drop. It'll just stay on my watch list until that day comes...
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Re: Video: The Top 10 Mario Platformers, As Selected By You
@Kirk: Yeah, I'll agree with you on that!
Re: Video: The Top 10 Mario Platformers, As Selected By You
@Kirk: Not saying it's flawed in any particular way. I'm just saying the retro factor counts a LOT for people who grew up with the classics. If all Mario-games were released for the first time tomorrow as brand new games - looking, playing and sounding exactly as they were it their time - no way would SMB get as high as 10th place.
But again, my opinion and I think I'll leave it at that!
Re: Video: The Top 10 Mario Platformers, As Selected By You
@Kirk: Well, that's where we'll have to agree to disagree... I mean, not many people today will pick up Super Mario Bros for the first time and agree it's "basically flawless". Myself, I can only play it for max 30 mins before it's enough for a couple of weeks/months...
But again, it's just my opinion, and I respect others' may differ!
Re: Video: The Top 10 Mario Platformers, As Selected By You
As always, blinded by retro glasses.
I mean, I LOVE classic Mario, but for instance saying the original Mario Bros. game is a "better" game than, say New Super Mario Bros.1 + 2 is just stupid. It might have been a more important game in it's time than NSMB2 was when it came out, but now it's time has passed.
Same goes, partly, for Super Mario World. The only one of the "classics" that can still be considered a great game compared to modern games is Mario 64. That's my opinion anyways.
Re: Nintendo Download: 13th November (Europe)
Pushing out the crap Castlevanias before the GBAs...
(Yeah, yeah - flame on! )
Re: Nintendo Download: 6th November (Europe)
What a crap week! Not even any interesting eShop indies or GBA VCs. At least I have Stealth Inc 2, Costume Quest 2 and Un-Epic I got last week.
Re: Bayonetta 2 Falls From UK Charts After One Week
The same thing as always; People complain about lack of adult & 3rd party games - and when they appear, no-one buys them. Just accept that Nintendo-produced games + eShop indies are what we'll have on WiiU and be satisfied - I am...
Buy a PS4 or PC for the other stuff. (Yeah, XB1 left out on purpose )
Re: Preview: Having a Brawl With Super Smash Bros. for Wii U
Hmm, the Game Overview says Players: 4. Wasn't this confirmed to have 8 or 9 players?
Re: Former President Of Silicon Knights Announces New Entertainment Company, QE2
People "demanding" this should be on WiiU are abit like those people demanding Bayonetta 2 on PS4 / XBox1. It's a lost cause.
Devs must go where the money is, and right now it's NOT on WiiU. If this thing happens at all, it'll be on PC and/or Sony/MS consoles first. There's no reason at all this should be on WiiU, even though the "spiritual successor" was a Gamecube game.
Also, people keep asking for more adult / harcore etc games on WiiU, but the thing is - you guys don't buy them! (And neither do I - but I'm happy with just Nintendo produced games The other stuff I get on PS3 (soon PS4) or PC.)
Re: Review: Stealth Inc 2: A Game of Clones (Wii U eShop)
Insta-buy as expected!
Loved the first one on PS3, been waiting for this!
And with Captain Toad + Mini-Marios WiiU + Trine Enchanted coming, this action-puzzler loves his WiiU!!!
Re: Review: Trine 2: Director's Cut (Wii U eShop)
This is an AWESOME game! Just finished it and the bonus chapters yesterday. For me, it's a 9/10!
Re: Masahiro Sakurai Gives a Glimpse of Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Fighter Reveal
@Rawk_Hawk Showing a shoe and a Zapper COULD point to Gumshoe...
Re: Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Live Nintendo Direct to Introduce "50 New Things"
50 new color choices for Pac-Man.
Re: Nintendo 64x64: Bangai-O
@SahashraLA It's released on the N64 so it's a N64 game. And as long as it's one of the 64 best games on the N64, it belongs on the list. Saying anything else is ridiculous.
Oh, and wasn't the Dreamcast some obscure console that only fanbois remeber that made a once-great console-producer close down it's console-division? That would make the N64 version more important, no?
Re: Nintendo Download: 23rd October (Europe)
@FritzFrapp Have you seen what Sony charges for avatars and wallpapers on PS3?
Re: Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty Wii U Delay Seems to be Due to 8GB Basic Model
Don't care what they do, moving Abe around is still like controlling a snail covered in glue - not gonna get this one either. Hated the series since the first one - but that's just me...
Re: Parent Trap: Pokémon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire Demo Is Perfect For Pocket Monster Newcomers
@mjhopkins81 Yeah, what he said!
Re: Weirdness: New Range of Irish Stamps Feature Mario, Sonic, and More
@WalupeachyTime Because Pac-Man and Space Invaders are thought of as singular games in the minds of non-gamers but Sonic and Mario are recognized as characters from a series of games?
Because only the "original" Pac-Man and Space Invaders are iconic like Sonic and Mario?
Because... who cares!? Didn't seem odd to me.
Re: Curve Studios Outlines Release Details of Four Wii U Titles
Stealth Inc 2 is a day 1 purchase, Lone Survivor & The Swapper are maybes for now... Thomas is a no-go, hate the gfx.
Re: New Nintendo 3DS LL Outsells Standard Model By Almost Three To One In Japan
I've got a normal XL already but I'll of course get the new XL too. The faceplates are fun for like 5 seconds, the larger screen stays with you for ever (or as long as the console lasts anyway)..
Re: Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow to Complete GBA Trilogy on Wii U Virtual Console
@Don Would YOU prefer Super Mario Bros GBC, Brain Age DS and Game & Watch Gallery 3 over the 3 GBA Castlevanias? Crap games are no comfort for missing out on classic awesomeness!
I've played SMB GBC and Brain Age like ONCE each, might as well delete them to save some MBs. And even though I loved my 2-screen Donkey Kong when it was new, I'll never buy a G&W game/collection these days. They're fun for like 30 secs then you play something else...
Re: Renegade Kid Releases Debut Trailer For Upcoming 3DS eShop Title, Xeodrifter
Looks GREAT, can't wait for this one. LOVE the art style!
Re: Mega Video Game Fan Aaron "NintendoTwizer" Norton Auctions Gaming Goldmine
He just discovered emulators...
Re: Nintendo Highlights 'Nindies' and Their Games at IndieCade 2014
I'll get Affordable Space Adventures, Chariot, Costume Quest 2, Shantae(!!!), Shovel Knight, Stealth Inc 2 and XeoDrifter for certain, and a maybe for Woah Dave! and The Fall.
Re: Interview: Mobot Studios Discusses Paper Monsters Recut and its Commitment to Wii U
Looks fun, wil definitely get Paper Monsters Recut. Have to see a bit more from Gears, but with a sub $5 pricetag is almost certain I'll get that too...
Re: Nintendo Announces amiibo Release Dates and New Figurines
Zero Suit Samus! Please!
Re: Nintendo Download: 9th October (Europe)
Nothing! 2 weeks in a row. Are we going back to those early days, Nintendo?
Re: Review: KickBeat: Special Edition (Wii U eShop)
@Stu13 Only Americans care about crap like that, just like seeing a boob on TV. To the rest of the world, it's just another word. "F-bomb" indeed - it might just kill you to hear it!
Re: Mitchell Corp Is Keen To Bring Strider's Spiritual Sequel To Home Formats
I looked up all the games on the list on YouTube before reading the article, and Cannon Dancer and Charlie Ninja were the ones I noted to test in an emu. There rest were rather meh...
Would love to have them on WiiU as nothing beats playing classics on Nintendo consoles.
Re: Review: Hyrule Warriors (Wii U)
I've been back and forth on this one, but I won't get it now... Too bad Miyamoto made them stop developing a Zelda-game with Warriors elements, that would've been much more appealing (to me) than the other way around. Started hating the Warriors-series after 5 minutes of Dynasty Warriors 2 on PS2...
Re: Hands On: Exploring the Four New Tables of Zen Pinball 2
Does anyone know how the WiiU-tables compare to PS3? Do they have higher resolution? I've got ALL tables up to Walking Dead on PS3, but now I'm considering starting to buy the WiiU tables instead. Too bad I can't move my entire collection from PS3 to WiiU.
And yeah, Nintendo-themed tables in Zen 2 would be AWESOME!
Re: Falcon and Yondu Join the Fight in Disney Infinity 2.0
@Mega719 I want more Marvel characters, couldn't care less about Star Wars!
Re: Review: Teslagrad (Wii U eShop)
Getting this today!
Re: Scandinavian Gamers Will be Included in the Hyrule Warriors Costume Pack Promotion
Bergsala is a crap distributor and there's practically 0 Nintendo-presence in stores / media here in Norway. Can't see why we can't get Club Nintendo in Scandinavia too. Bergsala blames Nintendo on their pages but I don't know...
Re: Nintendo Download: 11th September (Europe)
Will get Teslagrad, both Oracle Of... games, Super Mario Ball, Links Awakening and the Wooden Sen'Sey demo. Got Link to the Past & Minish Cap already, otherwise I'd get them too. Now THIS is a good week Nintendo!
Re: Review: Tappingo 2 (3DS eShop)
Will get this the day it launches in Europe. These small eShop games are so cheap that I insta-buy them all if they get a good score just to support Nintendo/devs!
Re: Ubisoft's Uplay Application Hints That Watch Dogs Is Still On Its Way To Wii U
Will get this for WiiU as it's supposed to outperform PS3 / X360 - and I won't buy PS4 for another year or so. Currently inFamous is the only title I want on PS4.
Re: Shigeru Miyamoto Flipped The Tea Table with Hyrule Warriors
Too bad, wondered who made that bad (IMHO) decision. I would rather have a Zelda game with Warriors elements than the other way around. Probably will get the game either way, but a more typical Zelda game with dungeons and exploring AND huge battle scenes would be an insta-buy for me. But... can't always get what you want I guess... :-/
Re: Catch Up on All the Bayonetta 2 Direct Videos Right Here
Getting this day 1! Loved the first one on PS3!
And everyone who DON'T buy it, loses the rights to complain about few games, lack of 3rd-party support or no mature games on the WiiU.
Re: Tappingo 2 Release Pushed Back a Week on Nintendo of America's Advice
@HugoSmits Hey Hugo, will get this the second it releases. Thanks for your games, LOVED the first one!
Re: Weirdness: Earthbound Designer Shigesato Itoi Comes Under Fire For Tweeting About Fukushima Peaches
Don't know/care much either way about the peaches. He should definitely be making another Earthbound though!
Re: Mario Kart 8 DLC Coming In November, Features Zelda, F-Zero And Animal Crossing
@IxC Well, you got ONE thing right... you're sad!
Seriously though, to me all your arguments seems to boil down to not being able to buy the DLC on the future retro Wii U in 10+ years... You really think that's gonna be a big concern for anyone? Plus it'll probably be available digitally on the eShop equivalent WITH all content, don't you think!?
Anyways, as countless others have said, if you don't like it - don't buy it! Your retail game is COMPLETE, this is just EXTRA stuff!
Re: Mario Kart 8 Update, Mercedes Karts and DLC Pre-Orders Now Live
@Legromancer luke88 concurred with G0dlike that it was £11 well spent. That means he agrees, so yes - he thinks it's great. Also "half the vanillas game content"... I get what you're trying to say, but you're not quite there.
Ok, flame on!
Oh, and this is GREAT STUFF, Nintendo!!!
Re: Video: Take Another Look at Ganondorf and Adventure Mode In Hyrule Warriors
A bit torn over this. On one hand it looks great and has tons of cool stuff from the Zelda universe - on the other hand it's (possibly) a repetitive button-masher. Hmmm......
Re: Coleco Wants to Bring Back Their Version of Donkey Kong
I thought ColecoVision was crap even back then, so no thanks for me...
Re: WayForward Bringing GBC Classic Xtreme Sports to 3DS Virtual Console
@BearHunger Yeah, really weird how they try to give their products an attractive packaging. Almost like they WANT to sell their products! REALLY weird!
Re: Review: Ice Cream Surfer (Wii U eShop)
@S3OL Yeah, me too. Wanted to like it but when I saw it in action...
Re: Talking Point: Deconstructing Nintendo's Retail Releases of Wii U eShop Titles
I've got Luigi U and both NES Remixes, but if this trend continues I will have be more sceptical about buying Nintendo eShop-releases on day 1 as I prefer physical copies. And I don't think that's the way to go for Nintendo.
Re: Mario Kart 8 Still Competing in Nordic Region Charts, Tomodachi Life Never Has
In the Nordic countries we got a terrible Nintendo-agency in Bergsala AB. There's practically zero Nintendo-presence compared to Sony and Microsoft. Add to this we haven't even got Club Nintendo. They blame this on the fact that the physical Club Nintendo magazine was to expensive to produce in the 80s!!! Don't know why Nintendo haven't replaced this zero-effort company decades ago!
Re: Yumi's Odd Odyssey Hooks In Permanent Price Drop In North America
I'm getting this one, but I'm waiting for a MUCH lower price tag. This isn't a game I'll play for months and months, so I'll get it when it's on sale AFTER a perm price drop. It'll just stay on my watch list until that day comes...