@cedarhyped True, but the games from 90s and 00s are unmatched in what they are set out to do. They were exceptional and novel. If Suikoden deserves 8/10 today, what does the new Assassin's Creed or CoD deserve today - 3/10? 4/10?
As for the standards lowering, I am looking at the best games of the era. Sure, there are some fantastic games (mostly Indie and Japanese), but looking at the Western gamemaking for example, it's an almost vertical slope down. Someone who has no memories of the 00s wouldn't even believe that the Western AAA scene was once proficient enough to match the Japanese/Indie games.
But it was true. There were fantastic Western games back then. Morrowind, Jade Empire, Planescape Torment, Myst, Populous, Sacred, Disciples, Schizm, to name a few.
Coming back to the best games of the era - The top games from the 10s and 20s still pale in comparison, at least in the AAA sector. The stories are uninspired and written just for the sake of something being there. Most writers do not have anything to tell, they are just tasked to connect some places and characters and that's it. Gameplay has devolved, too. Progress is guaranteed, checkpoints await at every 2nd step, most games have autoaiming at the opponent so that everything you need to do is click one button to win. It's disheartening to see.
But that gave rise to countless Indie marvels, which is truly a sight to behold. I believe we are looking at what could be the 2nd Cambrian Explosion of Gaming, with all the novelty and integrity of what once made the medium great. The clear hegemony of Japanese games will probably be untouched, but to be honest, I do not pity the Western AAA studios. They reap what they sow
As much as I dislike Nintendo's practices, I have to admit - they are the only creative company out ther in this rotten industry where everyone tries to leech off everyone.
@Olliemar28 oh yeah, that's what you meant. I didn't even notice his attempts to hide his intentions, so he did not do a very good job @97alexk well he did initiate violence
If it was a great game in the 90s, it should get at least a 12/10 by today's standards, where unremarkable cash grabs get 8-9/10.
@cedarhyped while it is certainly true that it has aged well, being given a similar score sounds kinda off. The standards have lowered significantly in the last 20 years. I guess this is the problem with X/10 scores, comparing them brings you to very random conclusions
If anyone wants to delve deeper into our medium, this is the kind of games they should behold.
What bothers me is how reviews are raising points like not applying modern "standards" to landmarks of the past. Those games do not need to be watered down and simplified. They are perfect as they are.
@BinaryMessiah I think there are valid points for both ways. Saying that there are 50 best games to play on Switch and not including FF 7 or 9 for instance would be pretty weird too <GAAAAAZEEE>.
Switch is a weird console because many games were straight up ported from Wii U, including Zelda BOTW, so I guess 2 lists would be in order
Turns out I can't leave Momodora, it keeps calling me back. Well then, I shall once more dive into it. I hope it's not as sad as the previous ones
Also why does NL pretend that Phantom Brave, one of the major 2025 releases doesn't exist? I know this section is for digitals only but it's sort of amazing we didn't get a single article about that one particular game, let alone a review, this is a Goty candidate
Short version to the people not versed in Japanese - the MC was trying to find the sender of the letter with the yellow tuft, which turned out to be the kid. The kid wanted to give the letter by the end of the day as it was his father's birthday, but MC knew it wasn't possible. Dragonite came and made it possible. When the kid was reading the letter aloud (are you well, we are well, the're doing our best etc.) MC recalled that the letter she received from Dragonite when she was a kid was birthday wishes from her grandparents along with the bracelet she was wearing the whole time. Dragonite ate cake.
@Whirlwound True. Whenever I see a shady company (and I often check before buying on Steam for instance), it 90% is a chinese company, but I guess some other countries are just as troubled. Could be that Moldavia devs just make shady games that didn't pique my interest
Can't even trace the country of origin of "COOL DEVS S.R.L", only one mention of it that it could be Moldavia. I'm half sure it's gonna be owned by some chinese publisher, as per tradition
It's so bad they even have AI in the cover of their other games. Wow.
Even the legendary plagiarism game "Limbo of the Lost" had only assets stolen, not the whole game
I want rich story. The girl who steals time, the titular protagonist probably has some lore, and we need stories from people who have something to tell
Many great recommendations, Shovel Knight and Lunistice need more spotlight. Okami is a thing that I will never not recommend.
Ace Combat 7 sat well with me too (ps5) - the story was actually written by someone who had something to convey, it's not just a bang bang background filler. It's rare for action games.
I know it's a work of love but I can't help but think "come on guys, your talent and effort is better spent elsewhere, here the best thank you will get for making free advertisement is a takedown notice"
@-wc- Exactly. Nintendo just doesn't offer any volume options, and it wasn't an issue 20 years ago, but today, not presenting any options at all feels very barebones. Also it was just an example of how Nintendo doesn't really care all that much about the details anymore. I could have gone with any other instance of them being either behind everyone or downgrading things
@Serpenterror the seal of quality was a joke, explained above. As for not having volume options, again:
1. it's just an example, it was when I started noticing how they cut corners.
2. It was not an issue 20 years back, but today? Almost every game has it
3. TV volume doesn't allow tuning the music/sfx volume. Sometimes you want to turn music off or turn sfx down to better hear it.
@EarthboundBenjy yeah I know. It was just a little joke from me, maybe it didn't land. Many people associate the Seal with Nintendo games which were traditionally of very high quality until recently. (explaining the joke that didn't land is more embarrassing than I thought)
@EarthboundBenjy the seal of quality itself is kinda fading away, N is getting more and more sloppy. It's a continous process, but I realized this when I got MK8 on Wii U and there wasn't even a sound (music/sfx) volume setting. The rot probably started earlier though
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Re: Okami 2 Studio Won't Limit Itself To Sequels And Existing IP
Keep it coming Clover, we got so many memories thanks to you. We gained so much.
just keep in mind that we are holding you to the 00s standard
Re: Nintendo & Pokémon Company Had An "Adversarial Relationship", Say Former NOA Staffers
I thought it was about a patent case lost against Palworld
Re: Mini Review: Mainframes (Switch) - A Fun But Frustrating PC-Inspired Platformer
those visuals are mesmerizing
I want it
I want this world to come back
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Suikoden I & II HD Remaster
@cedarhyped True, but the games from 90s and 00s are unmatched in what they are set out to do. They were exceptional and novel. If Suikoden deserves 8/10 today, what does the new Assassin's Creed or CoD deserve today - 3/10? 4/10?
As for the standards lowering, I am looking at the best games of the era. Sure, there are some fantastic games (mostly Indie and Japanese), but looking at the Western gamemaking for example, it's an almost vertical slope down. Someone who has no memories of the 00s wouldn't even believe that the Western AAA scene was once proficient enough to match the Japanese/Indie games.
But it was true. There were fantastic Western games back then. Morrowind, Jade Empire, Planescape Torment, Myst, Populous, Sacred, Disciples, Schizm, to name a few.
Coming back to the best games of the era - The top games from the 10s and 20s still pale in comparison, at least in the AAA sector. The stories are uninspired and written just for the sake of something being there. Most writers do not have anything to tell, they are just tasked to connect some places and characters and that's it. Gameplay has devolved, too. Progress is guaranteed, checkpoints await at every 2nd step, most games have autoaiming at the opponent so that everything you need to do is click one button to win. It's disheartening to see.
But that gave rise to countless Indie marvels, which is truly a sight to behold. I believe we are looking at what could be the 2nd Cambrian Explosion of Gaming, with all the novelty and integrity of what once made the medium great. The clear hegemony of Japanese games will probably be untouched, but to be honest, I do not pity the Western AAA studios. They reap what they sow
Re: Ex-Nintendo Employee Spills The Beans On The Company's Weirdest Zelda Ad
@dew12333 Keep it well preserved, it's a bit of gaming history:)
@Wisestfool like when many people remember something correctly?
Re: Ex-Nintendo Employee Spills The Beans On The Company's Weirdest Zelda Ad
@dew12333 it was the most hilarious part tbh
I played like one, without the prospect of going Andrew Tate on anyone
Re: Samsung Shows Off Its Switch-Inspired Foldable Handheld
As much as I dislike Nintendo's practices, I have to admit - they are the only creative company out ther in this rotten industry where everyone tries to leech off everyone.
@gcunit I hate to say it but probably not long
Re: Random: Try Not To Cringe Watching This Video Of A Pokémon TCG Scalper
@Olliemar28 oh yeah, that's what you meant. I didn't even notice his attempts to hide his intentions, so he did not do a very good job
@97alexk well he did initiate violence
Re: Random: Try Not To Cringe Watching This Video Of A Pokémon TCG Scalper
"trying to block the kiosk without making it seem as though he's committing any kind of physical assault."
It's absolutely clear that he was committing physical assault
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Suikoden I & II HD Remaster
If it was a great game in the 90s, it should get at least a 12/10 by today's standards, where unremarkable cash grabs get 8-9/10.
@cedarhyped while it is certainly true that it has aged well, being given a similar score sounds kinda off. The standards have lowered significantly in the last 20 years. I guess this is the problem with X/10 scores, comparing them brings you to very random conclusions
Re: 20 Years After Its Demise, Publisher 'Acclaim' Is Being Resurrected
Rise, our glorious creation!
Re: Nintendo Discounts Several Games On Switch For MAR10 Day (North America)
For a moment I thought mar10 day is in May and was looking at the calendar frantically
I need coffee
Re: Review: Suikoden 1 & 2 HD Remaster (Switch) - Two Of The PS1's Best RPGs Beautifully Preserved, For The Most Part
This is an important game.
If anyone wants to delve deeper into our medium, this is the kind of games they should behold.
What bothers me is how reviews are raising points like not applying modern "standards" to landmarks of the past. Those games do not need to be watered down and simplified. They are perfect as they are.
Re: Video: 12 Exciting New Games Coming To Nintendo Switch In March 2025
On Your Tail and Atelier Yumia for me, this is going to be a fun month!
Re: 50 Best Nintendo Switch Games To Play Right Now (2025)
@BinaryMessiah I think there are valid points for both ways. Saying that there are 50 best games to play on Switch and not including FF 7 or 9 for instance would be pretty weird too <GAAAAAZEEE>.
Switch is a weird console because many games were straight up ported from Wii U, including Zelda BOTW, so I guess 2 lists would be in order
Re: Feature: Nintendo Life eShop Selects (February 2025)
Turns out I can't leave Momodora, it keeps calling me back. Well then, I shall once more dive into it. I hope it's not as sad as the previous ones
Also why does NL pretend that Phantom Brave, one of the major 2025 releases doesn't exist? I know this section is for digitals only but it's sort of amazing we didn't get a single article about that one particular game, let alone a review, this is a Goty candidate
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: Pokémon Trading Card Game
Both. They're jsut iconic
Re: New Bandai Namco Trademark 'Once Upon A Katamari' Spotted
KAtamAAArIIII DamacYYYYY
gimmiegimmiegimmiegimmiegimmie
Re: Pokémon Short 'Dragonite And The Postman' Now Available On YouTube
It's absolutely marvelous
Short version to the people not versed in Japanese - the MC was trying to find the sender of the letter with the yellow tuft, which turned out to be the kid. The kid wanted to give the letter by the end of the day as it was his father's birthday, but MC knew it wasn't possible. Dragonite came and made it possible. When the kid was reading the letter aloud (are you well, we are well, the're doing our best etc.) MC recalled that the letter she received from Dragonite when she was a kid was birthday wishes from her grandparents along with the bracelet she was wearing the whole time. Dragonite ate cake.
Re: Catch-Up Crew: Metal Gear Solid - "It’s Been A Long Time, What’s The Situation?"
"but it also makes me wistful for that era of Konami. Lane mentioned Capcom, too; the PS1 and PS2 era felt magic for those two developers"
I felt that
Re: Dragon Quest XI S Returns To Switch eShop "At A Permanently Reduced Price"
As a major RPG fan I bounced off DQ series twice, but who am I kidding, I'll give it a try someday
Re: Best Pokémon Games Of All Time
You know it's for lolz when the original Red/Blue are placed 11 (even placing them outside the podium would be kinda weird)
Re: Poll: Which Starter Pokémon Will You Choose In Legends: Z-A?
Dayum Typhlosion really got hit with that latest drama
Re: Rock On! CRKD And Gibson Team Up To Launch Two New Guitar Controllers
Guitar Hero is such a treat
I have a working guitar but I'm still thinking about the blueberry one
Re: Random: Honda Teases Real-Life Pokémon Scarlet And Violet Motorbike
@wildesttimelines true, but honestly it's pretty tame by 2025 standards of weird
Re: Feature: Strictly Limited Responds To Switch Delays And Discontent, And Details An Ambitious Target
The Bubble Bobble artbook is calling me...
Re: "They Stole The Whole Game" - Horror Indie Dev Fights The eShop Scam Blatantly Ripping Their Work
@Whirlwound True. Whenever I see a shady company (and I often check before buying on Steam for instance), it 90% is a chinese company, but I guess some other countries are just as troubled. Could be that Moldavia devs just make shady games that didn't pique my interest
Re: Pokémon Centre UK Releases Gorgeous New 'Loungefly' Backpack Range
Backpacks backpacks come get your backpacks
Re: "They Stole The Whole Game" - Horror Indie Dev Fights The eShop Scam Blatantly Ripping Their Work
Can't even trace the country of origin of "COOL DEVS S.R.L", only one mention of it that it could be Moldavia. I'm half sure it's gonna be owned by some chinese publisher, as per tradition
It's so bad they even have AI in the cover of their other games. Wow.
Even the legendary plagiarism game "Limbo of the Lost" had only assets stolen, not the whole game
Re: 'Fantasy Life i' Commericals Showcase Comfortingly Familiar Gameplay
I want rich story. The girl who steals time, the titular protagonist probably has some lore, and we need stories from people who have something to tell
Re: New 'Dating App For Games' Tool Looks To Leverage Human Expertise Over AI
Doesn't Steam already have something like that? It works how it works but it's there
Re: Funko Fusion Is Deemed A "Complete Commercial And Critical Failure"
Punko Flop
<please disregard this line - for minimal post length purposes>
Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns HD Tops Switch Charts In Opening Month (US)
A masterpiece is a masterpiece, no matter how well it sells, but it really is a joy when more people appreciate hard work and quality.
Re: Upcoming Pokémon Anime Short Is Looking Absolutely Stunning
Definitely on a "to watch at least a couple of times" list.
The eyes are not creepy like in Scarlet Violence but I would still prefer the OG pokemon eyes
Re: Gallery: Here's A Closer Look At The London Pop-Up Pokémon Center's Exclusive Merch
But still type disadvantage to people outside of UK
Re: 98 Games You Should Pick Up In Nintendo's 'Play On' eShop Sale (Europe)
Many great recommendations, Shovel Knight and Lunistice need more spotlight. Okami is a thing that I will never not recommend.
Ace Combat 7 sat well with me too (ps5) - the story was actually written by someone who had something to convey, it's not just a bang bang background filler. It's rare for action games.
Also Phantom Brave Lost Hero 10/10 review when
Re: '90s Anime 'Samurai Pizza Cats' Is Getting The Action RPG Treatment Next Year
This is wonderful. This truly is s magnificent year
Re: The Lego Game Boy May Be Reasonably Cheap If New Leak Is To Be Believed
@Tyranexx word up. It's not even a matter of price anymore, literally I can't "afford" my shelf space
Re: Random: Zelda Fan-Project Turns 'Breath Of The Wild' Into Stunning Anime Opening
I know it's a work of love but I can't help but think "come on guys, your talent and effort is better spent elsewhere, here the best thank you will get for making free advertisement is a takedown notice"
Re: Netflix Lays Off Staff At 'Oxenfree' Developer
@demacho welcome to clownworld 2025, where everything has gone comically wrong for the last 15 years and it's only gonna get worse
Re: Nightdive's The Thing: Remastered Is Getting A Physical Release
"I don't know who to trust."
Re: Talking Point: Should We Actually Get Excited For Pokémon Day This Year?
Hoping this time they'll enlist more than 3 people to work on Pokemon Zaza
Re: Be Warned, Two NES Titles From Limited Run Games May Damage Your Console
@-wc- Exactly. Nintendo just doesn't offer any volume options, and it wasn't an issue 20 years ago, but today, not presenting any options at all feels very barebones. Also it was just an example of how Nintendo doesn't really care all that much about the details anymore. I could have gone with any other instance of them being either behind everyone or downgrading things
@Serpenterror the seal of quality was a joke, explained above. As for not having volume options, again:
1. it's just an example, it was when I started noticing how they cut corners.
2. It was not an issue 20 years back, but today? Almost every game has it
3. TV volume doesn't allow tuning the music/sfx volume. Sometimes you want to turn music off or turn sfx down to better hear it.
Re: Annapurna Will Shed Some Light On Its 2025 Lineup In Next Week's Digital Showcase
Lushfoil Photographjy Sim is the only one that caught my eye, but I'm mildly interested.
Hoping for some good surprises
Re: New Tactical RPG From Danganronpa & Zero Escape Creators Scores A Demo
A demo version is always a green flag. (Almost, vide Balan)
Re: Be Warned, Two NES Titles From Limited Run Games May Damage Your Console
@EarthboundBenjy yeah I know. It was just a little joke from me, maybe it didn't land. Many people associate the Seal with Nintendo games which were traditionally of very high quality until recently. (explaining the joke that didn't land is more embarrassing than I thought)
Re: Be Warned, Two NES Titles From Limited Run Games May Damage Your Console
State of the industry, 2025
@EarthboundBenjy the seal of quality itself is kinda fading away, N is getting more and more sloppy. It's a continous process, but I realized this when I got MK8 on Wii U and there wasn't even a sound (music/sfx) volume setting. The rot probably started earlier though
Re: Nintendo Power Artist "Hadn't Actually Played Any Zelda Games" Before Creating His Take On Hyrule
These pieces are magnificent
Also there is nothing wrong with pink hair and P/Link
Re: Nintendo Is Discontinuing Gold Points, One Of The Switch's Best Incentives
The descent continues
Re: Nintendo's Palworld Lawsuit Might Go International As New Patents Land U.S. Approval
The clo... I mean judges won't rest until the corporations have it their way
If N forces this ridiculous outcome, it will never get the respect back