Overzeal

Breaking news 14 year old console worse than Switch 2.

I think it’s too early to say whether or not they mishandled it. In the U.S. they were out of stock everywhere for about 6 months with the Switch 1. I think we should wait and see how long it takes to stabilize before we compare.

Honestly with demand this high the only thing they could do would be delay the launch and produce more units, but nobody wants that.

Can’t believe the unions would go after the wishes of a dead man.

I won’t even consider playing if they botch the script. The modern audience doesn’t exist.

First Switch 2 experience be:

Ray tracing: off
DLSS: off
Game chat: off
Battery capping: off

So a single part in the whol shebang was finalized during the most profitable time of the console's life span?

Not at all. Being safe from online losers was Nintendo’s biggest selling point. At no point has this feature ever improved the gaming experience unless you’re only and I mean only playing with friends.

@Truegamer79

Already confirmed to be a key card.

EDIT: upon looking for my source I could no longer find it. I apologise but I didn't vet the claim before making it.

“Reportedly” “apparently”

No it just actually will be. No need to be obtuse.

Phantasy Star Online getting revived after all these years; even if it’s an offline version would be legendary.

Pokemon has been plagued by cheats for over a decade. This is great news.

A Switch that can run modern games is something I think most of us wanted.

Sure maybe we don’t want the Switch 3, but the Switch 1 was so outdated that people still blame the cloud version of Kingdom Hearts or the poor performance of Metal Gear on it.

Sheer incompetence from Firaxis. There’s no way you could get the game working in the Switch 1 but can’t do it with more powerful hardware.

If it’s not incompetence it’s even worse.

“ but it managed to outsell its successor”

Not anymore! Gotta update your SwSh entry

And not a single English translator bothered to treat any of it with respect. Then localization in this game I almost as bad as Hundred Heroes.

There’s fake news going around that Walmart is cancelling pre-orders. Not sure where else to put this info.

I’ve been worried about the translation. The first time they mentioned the change they said it was made for the imaginary “modern audience”. I hope that honoring the original Japanese actually does that and isn’t another Paper Mario situation.

Ok so it’s exactly as bad as we feared. Are we going to get upset that the Xbox button is also for paid features only?

You’re telling us that for $10 more we can get a good game. That’s a good deal.

Seriously though this game was already complete crap. It’s not worthy your time unless you are really desperate for a low effort, paint-by-numbers Ubislop title.

That description fits every game they made in the last 3 years.

The Series X|S has a the worst selling of the 3 9th gen consoles by far. Xbox is cooked

Do we have word of these are faithful remakes or sloppy downgrades?

Already got my Satisfye Zengrip 2. It can fit in the dock now without having to take it out.

The very definition of lazy devs.

@Krlozgod

Thanks for pointing that out.

@WheresWaveRace

The way this tech works is that you are buying a license. If you validate it once you’re good to go offline, however after the servers are shut down it can never be renewed again. If you ever want a new game key it won’t work because it can’t be validated and if you ever want to transfer your data to a new console you’ll lose you license.

This seems like a good place to put my full thoughts.

The pros to game keys are the following:

1. Can be resold
2. Cheaper for studios that wouldn't have made physical carts anyway.
3. Huge AAA games like Street Fighter and Call of Duty make it easier to get these "impossible ports" to the console at all.
4. It's industry standard and gives studios that have worked exclusively with Xbox and Sony a familar avenue to get their work across.

The cons are:

1. You don't own the game and will lose access to it anytime the servers are shutoff or the studio doesnt renew its contract.
2. The idea of optimizing games is an art that it seems only Nintendo and a few indie studios pratice at this point. The idea that Nintendo can add a whole new story to Xenoblade X and actually shed a couple of GB while Bethesda added 100+ GB to Oblivion is frankly embarrasing. The Call of Duty launcher is over 300GB.
3. Could actually have fewer games be made since it's obvious Square could have gotten a game originall 4GB now 11GB onto a cart. We've all heard the rumor that Nintendo is charging more for regular carts but frankly I was going to buy BD1 and Yakuza 0 but now won't due to this mistake on their part.

The success of this system will be decided after a ear or two when we see how it ends up beng used. If game keys are mostly used by like 80-100GB+ AAA games and sub 1GB niche indie games that never would have gotten a physical release anyway it should be considered a win and an additional option given to devs to allow more physical games to be on the S2.

If it's moslty used by all 3rd party studios and only a couple of hangers-on like CDPR or Feral Interactive (Hitman) or God forbid Nintendo, Hal, Gamefreak or any other 2nd party dev ever dares cheap out it will be seen as a complete failure and Nintendo's admission to assist the collapse of the industry.

Edit: I was reminded that the worst con is that you only have limited internal memory and that’s going to fill up quickly.

That’s good. Glad we can finally drop this garbage tech.

I think this is the best case scenario

A good time to bust out the ol “FAFO”

@KingMike

No I meant that when you buy your game new, they open the cling wrap like they would the console itself to deter the scalpers. Selling the games as open box would be harder to profit from.

I don’t understand the people who balk at the price and also want it to use only the most cutting edge components.

Guess what, hall controllers still drift.

Selling the unit as open box would definitely turn a lot of bad actors away.

You could even require the purchase of at least one game which could also be sold as open box.

Can’t for wait for the article 5 years titled “Soapbox: Drag x Drive didn’t deserve to fail”

People please play Hitman. It’s not the cloud version anymore, it’s all 3 games on the cartridge and is one of the best stealth games ever made.

No WonderSwan or Game.com? Fakes fans!

@sixrings

I’m aware it’s for all intents and purposes weaker, but with some games actually performing better and it being 10th gen I don’t think it’s all that crazy.

Really puts things into perspective that the price really isn’t that bad and is still $50 cheaper than the competition while being a generation ahead.

Nitrome must die…was a great meta-game that I hope gets ported.

IMHO $450 is objectively the most they can charge with it still being a good deal. I’ll try to explain why I believe this.

$50 seems to be the interval these kinds of goods work with, so being a “full-interval” cheaper than the competition versus being 2 or more below isn’t going to matter to most people. If the machine was on par with the PS5 or Series X they maybe could have gotten away with $550. It is the first 10th gen console after all and still cheaper than the Series X 2TB and the PS5 Pro and wouldn’t be competing with the base models of those consoles anyway.

The next X box and PS6 are almost certainly going to be over $600 and could go closer to $750 and that’s what the Switch 2 is competing against.

As for $80 games? Well MS can’t sell games on their own platform and require Steam and Sony to make up numbers. Sony hasn’t had a profitable game the entire 9th generation and can’t until they fire their “consultants” and just make what people want again. I’d rather play 1-2 fewer AAA releases in a year if it means Nintendo doesn’t try to push Cloud, or AI, or subscriptions, or Concord.

Also to all the people claiming Astro’s playroom is free the PS5 is $50 more in 2020 dollars

If Nintendo lets us disable it, then they can have it do anything they like.

Credit where it’s due, the Wii U launch lineup was stacked. Black Ops 2 is one of the greatest games ever made. I didn’t have another console at the time, but I didn’t care because I was able to get lobbies on multiplayer zombies up until the servers were taken offline.

Also Tetris>Tetris DX

@Oracles_fanboi

Xbox told their fans to bugger off

Nintendo told their fans the system they paid $300+ for isn’t irrelevant despite heavy diminishing returns to themselves

Please stop

@anoyonmus

This is true. I think people are confusing

“If you don’t like what we have on offer, don’t buy it”

With what they actually said

“We understand not every can jump ship on day one and we promise not to leave you behind.”

Nintendo was universally praised for continuing to support the NES when the SNES came out. Now we want them to abandon the Switch 1 outright?

When does Xenoblade X get its Switch 2 upgrade?

How do I turn off DLSS/Raytracing?

@westman98

What I said was indeed correct.

@westman98

I know but Vietnam has to drop their tariffs for the U.S. to reciprocate.

Vietnam taxes the U.S. at a rate of over 90%

@rjejr

I mean that just isn’t correct. No tariff is no tariff.

@cedarhyped

I already posted my sources in the forums. Vietnam has stated their intent to go to 0%.

Failing to do so is possible but very unlikely.