I do like Mario Kart 8, but it didn't persuade me to buy a Wii U, I got it on Switch but Zelda was the system seller. To be honest $80 games has put me off the console entirely. I'll hold out, possibly compare a future lite or OLED model with a Steam Deck 2 in a couple of years
@Pillowpants I do see your point. In the country were I live, there are no places like GameStop or CEX, so I never trade games. Codes in boxes are often cheaper than the digital store because they are so unpopular. I would hate to lose my keycard, meaning I can't play a game and know the game wasn't even on the card. Cards with nothing on them, wasting space in your bag as well as space on your SD card. I would never buy a digital game for $60. If a game is of value, they should pay for a real cartridge, full game. Updates and dlc is ok as a download.
@Pillowpants while keycards can be traded, which is a good thing, the only positives of a digital download is that it is on your console and hard to lose, and you do not need to store an extra card. Here we have to download the game but also store an empty card. If you lose the card, you can't play the download.
I bought a colour tv and it played the black and white tv show in colour for no extra charge. I bought a new car and it drove me to work with nicer seats and a new stereo for no extra charge. I bought a new phone and could send text messages on the new device for no extra charge. I bought a new fishing rod, was allowed to fish in the same lake at no extra charge. I bought a new bed and was allowed to sleep in it with no extra charge, could even use my old pillows.
This would have been a great idea a few years ago. All these joycon and Switch Oleds are going to be tough to shift now. They should really put them on half price or something.
1) I'm not paying for online. 2) I don't want people to speak to me through my console. 3) I don't want my child speaking to strangers online 4) I really do not want a camera watching me or my family, when I am playing a game. 5) No, no, no, no, no, no, no!
All six collections could fit on one cartridge. Not only would it save plastic and money for customers, increase the portability, I also think a lot more people would buy it, making it one of those cartridges you always carry with your switch. I don't want six mini collections of Neo Geo games but something like the mega-drive classics collection is really tempting.
Quite a few years ago, there was a really dry spell in Nintendo games on switch. I was in a gaming shop and saw a very old game, Doom for $60 on switch and $10 on PS4, a lot of other games were the same and playstation had a lot more cheap 3rd party games. So instead of buying a few switch games I bought a PS4. I later bought a steam deck, ps5 and gaming PC. While I could afford a Switch 2, the games are way too expensive in terms of value proposition and in comparison to what other consoles sell. Cyberpunk 2077 is often on a steam sale for around $15, so I wouldn't get a lesser version on switch for, whatever they are asking, $70-80? I skipped Wii-U and might skip Switch 2 in the same way.
@UmbreonsPapa it's because tech demos are traditionally free. Makes sense people are concerned. People want to buy Switch 2 but Nintendo needs to be on the same page regarding the value proposition/cost of their products. This is very important when choosing a new console and becoming locked into one console manufacturers marketplace for years.
This pricing puts me off the Switch 2. It makes me weary of entering another Nintendo owned closed ecosystem, where I rely on them not to fix or hike up costs. The launch games on Switch are still $60. Maybe I am too poor to be a Nintendo fan now.
@Bizzyb I'm not sure a Switch 2 is cheaper than a steam deck. Perhaps the console but very few Steam games are $80. Cyberpunk on Steam more often sells for around $16 and the highest it tends to go for is $40. I doubt the Switch version will sell for $40 for a very long time. I bought it on launch day for $60 and this was the most expensive game I had ever bought on steam. In addition, valve does not normally charge any more money to play the same game, you already bought, just because you have new hardware. If I wanted to play cyberpunk at a higher resolution or framerate on a steam deck 2, I would just boot up the game I had purchased on steam deck 1 and possibly change the settings, if it didnt do it automatically.
@DonkeyKongBigBoy that is a selling point actually. I'm sure to get MP4 on the original Switch but it's good to know i won't have to buy the game again, when I eventually get switch 2.
Still waiting for that killer app that makes me want to buy a Switch 2. Breath of The Wild did it for me with switch 1 but a smoother running version on switch 2 isn't that appealing, seeing as I've finished the game. I've been playing Cyberpunk handheld on Steamdeck for years so this isn't going to be a system seller for me. Fingers crossed for Metroid Prime 4 being just as good on original Switch, to save me some money. As for mouse mode, I've played games with a mouse since the early nineties, does not seem novel to me.
All GameCube games are playable on Steamdeck without a subscription and have been for many years. Also on most Android phones. They also play Wii, Wii U and Switch btw.
The article writes "Nintendo will also be releasing a new wireless GameCube controller" and "will you be replaying The Wind Waker". Shouldn't it be "Nintendo will also release a new wireless controller" and "will you replay The Wind Waker"? Such a strange way to be writing things I be reading. Have you been understanding how unusual this has been being?
I think I am going to wait for a while before picking up switch 2, especially if there is no killer app for me, and indies like this still come to switch 1. If there are performance problems with Metroid Prime 4 on switch 1, I may suddenly change my mind.
I'm OK with paying for digital only games, as long as they have sales like on steam. As for people saying they will lose the games when the servers go down, there are some game preservationists sailing the high seas who can help with that.
I think lots of people said it already, but it is better to have an original switch game plus the upgrade key because you can play the game on both switch 1 and 2. Many people would rather play prime 4 on switch lite, for a more portable experience.
@StewdaMegaManNerd yes, a valid point. I own and paid (once) for all of the games I emulate. I don't rent games and have been playing Wii and GameCube on a handheld for several years now.
@WiltonRoots Perhaps I could say it about all videogame gateways? Perhaps I see them everywhere I look? I think these doors are more reminiscent than most though.
A DS with one long folding screen would be a better design. That said, looks like these folding screens are not durable enough for a consoles lifecycle.
So, Nintendo will allow me to use my own internet with my own electronic device for free? Very generous. Letting me borrow the really old games for a couple of weeks instead of honoring my purchases on older systems is also so very generous.
I bought the games I want on previous consoles and I own them. I will not rent something I already own. It is a shame I can't play the games on switch without hacking it. It is fortunate that there are other machines that are more portable, have nicer screens and better build quality to play these games on, like the Retroid Pocket 5.
Being charged to be allowed to connect your own device to your own internet connection seems like a terrible deal. As for trying to lease out old games I have already purchased on prior platforms, instead of honoring my prior purchases, not a good deal either.
I've been playing virtual console on Retroid Pocket 5. I can play the games I bought and own from all the old consoles, without having to buy them again or, heaven forbid, rent them.
A very late review. This game has been out for a long while. Nintendolife is usually my go-to for reviews but for this game I had to find other websites.
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Re: Nintendo: "Appetite" For Mario Kart And Series' Accessibility Makes It Ideal For Switch 2's Launch
I do like Mario Kart 8, but it didn't persuade me to buy a Wii U, I got it on Switch but Zelda was the system seller. To be honest $80 games has put me off the console entirely. I'll hold out, possibly compare a future lite or OLED model with a Steam Deck 2 in a couple of years
Re: Nintendo Has "No Plans" To Use Game-Key Cards For First-Party-Developed Titles
@Pillowpants I do see your point. In the country were I live, there are no places like GameStop or CEX, so I never trade games. Codes in boxes are often cheaper than the digital store because they are so unpopular. I would hate to lose my keycard, meaning I can't play a game and know the game wasn't even on the card. Cards with nothing on them, wasting space in your bag as well as space on your SD card. I would never buy a digital game for $60. If a game is of value, they should pay for a real cartridge, full game. Updates and dlc is ok as a download.
Re: Nintendo Has "No Plans" To Use Game-Key Cards For First-Party-Developed Titles
@Pillowpants while keycards can be traded, which is a good thing, the only positives of a digital download is that it is on your console and hard to lose, and you do not need to store an extra card. Here we have to download the game but also store an empty card. If you lose the card, you can't play the download.
Re: Nintendo Has "No Plans" To Use Game-Key Cards For First-Party-Developed Titles
Keycards are worse than a code in a box.
Re: Rumour: Red Dead Redemption 2 May Be Heading To Switch 2 Pretty Soon
My wife played this on PS4 about seven years ago. It's like Switch 2 is a time machine. Well worth the extra cost.
Re: 12 Switch Games Are Getting Free Switch 2 Upgrades, Here's What You Can Expect
I bought a colour tv and it played the black and white tv show in colour for no extra charge. I bought a new car and it drove me to work with nicer seats and a new stereo for no extra charge. I bought a new phone and could send text messages on the new device for no extra charge. I bought a new fishing rod, was allowed to fish in the same lake at no extra charge. I bought a new bed and was allowed to sleep in it with no extra charge, could even use my old pillows.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's N64 Library With Another Game
I instinctually killed my subscription to NSO quite some time ago.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Ghosting Switch 1 To Save Yourself For Switch 2?
I stopped playing Switch when I got a Retroid Pocket 5.
Re: PSA: Mix And Match Your Switch OLED At Nintendo's New Store (US)
This would have been a great idea a few years ago. All these joycon and Switch Oleds are going to be tough to shift now. They should really put them on half price or something.
Re: Nintendo Updates Its User Agreement To Crack Down On Emulation
Meanwhile Steam provides windows drivers on their website to help give more operating system options.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Excited At All For Switch 2 GameChat?
1) I'm not paying for online.
2) I don't want people to speak to me through my console.
3) I don't want my child speaking to strangers online
4) I really do not want a camera watching me or my family, when I am playing a game.
5) No, no, no, no, no, no, no!
Re: Video: Switch 2's Mouse Controls Are Nothing New For Nintendo
A computer mouse may be "nothing new for Nintendo" but it is also nothing new full stop. They were invented in the sixties.
Re: SNK Announces ACA NEOGEO Selection Vol. 5 And Vol. 6 For Switch
All six collections could fit on one cartridge. Not only would it save plastic and money for customers, increase the portability, I also think a lot more people would buy it, making it one of those cartridges you always carry with your switch. I don't want six mini collections of Neo Geo games but something like the mega-drive classics collection is really tempting.
Re: Talking Point: With Prices Rising, Are Your Gaming Habits Changing?
Quite a few years ago, there was a really dry spell in Nintendo games on switch. I was in a gaming shop and saw a very old game, Doom for $60 on switch and $10 on PS4, a lot of other games were the same and playstation had a lot more cheap 3rd party games. So instead of buying a few switch games I bought a PS4. I later bought a steam deck, ps5 and gaming PC. While I could afford a Switch 2, the games are way too expensive in terms of value proposition and in comparison to what other consoles sell. Cyberpunk 2077 is often on a steam sale for around $15, so I wouldn't get a lesser version on switch for, whatever they are asking, $70-80? I skipped Wii-U and might skip Switch 2 in the same way.
Re: GameStop Apparently Investigating New York Store Over Sus Switch 2 Bundle Sales
GameStop did this to me with the original Wii. They've been doing it for ages.
Re: Switch 2 'Welcome Tour' Estimated File Size Revealed By Nintendo
@UmbreonsPapa it's because tech demos are traditionally free. Makes sense people are concerned. People want to buy Switch 2 but Nintendo needs to be on the same page regarding the value proposition/cost of their products. This is very important when choosing a new console and becoming locked into one console manufacturers marketplace for years.
Re: Switch 2 'Welcome Tour' Estimated File Size Revealed By Nintendo
This pricing puts me off the Switch 2. It makes me weary of entering another Nintendo owned closed ecosystem, where I rely on them not to fix or hike up costs. The launch games on Switch are still $60. Maybe I am too poor to be a Nintendo fan now.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Confirmed As The First Switch 2 Title To Use Nvidia's DLSS Upscaling
@Bizzyb I'm not sure a Switch 2 is cheaper than a steam deck. Perhaps the console but very few Steam games are $80. Cyberpunk on Steam more often sells for around $16 and the highest it tends to go for is $40. I doubt the Switch version will sell for $40 for a very long time. I bought it on launch day for $60 and this was the most expensive game I had ever bought on steam. In addition, valve does not normally charge any more money to play the same game, you already bought, just because you have new hardware. If I wanted to play cyberpunk at a higher resolution or framerate on a steam deck 2, I would just boot up the game I had purchased on steam deck 1 and possibly change the settings, if it didnt do it automatically.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Confirmed As The First Switch 2 Title To Use Nvidia's DLSS Upscaling
@DonkeyKongBigBoy that is a selling point actually. I'm sure to get MP4 on the original Switch but it's good to know i won't have to buy the game again, when I eventually get switch 2.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Confirmed As The First Switch 2 Title To Use Nvidia's DLSS Upscaling
Still waiting for that killer app that makes me want to buy a Switch 2. Breath of The Wild did it for me with switch 1 but a smoother running version on switch 2 isn't that appealing, seeing as I've finished the game. I've been playing Cyberpunk handheld on Steamdeck for years so this isn't going to be a system seller for me. Fingers crossed for Metroid Prime 4 being just as good on original Switch, to save me some money. As for mouse mode, I've played games with a mouse since the early nineties, does not seem novel to me.
Re: Nintendo Removes Variable Refresh Rate TV Mention On Switch 2 Websites
@Rykdrew steam deck OLED may have a better screen but does it play GameCube games? ... (Yes, plus Wii and Wii U, switch, PS2...)
Re: GameCube Games Confirmed For Nintendo Switch Online On Switch 2
All GameCube games are playable on Steamdeck without a subscription and have been for many years. Also on most Android phones. They also play Wii, Wii U and Switch btw.
Re: Video: Nintendo Today Gives Us Another Look At Zelda: Wind Waker For Switch Online
I have been playing an upscaled version of Wind waker, with widescreen hacks on Retroid pocket 5. The WiiU version doesn't run quite as well on it.
Re: Video: Nintendo Today Gives Us Another Look At Zelda: Wind Waker For Switch Online
The article writes "Nintendo will also be releasing a new wireless GameCube controller" and "will you be replaying The Wind Waker". Shouldn't it be "Nintendo will also release a new wireless controller" and "will you replay The Wind Waker"? Such a strange way to be writing things I be reading. Have you been understanding how unusual this has been being?
Re: Some Fans Are Drawing Unfavourable Comparisons Between Switch 2 And Xbox One
Some people won't buy a switch 2, not just because of its price, but it's unwieldy size. Switch lite is a more suitable handheld for travel.
Re: Don't Worry, Hollow: Knight Silksong Is Still Coming To The Original Switch
I think I am going to wait for a while before picking up switch 2, especially if there is no killer app for me, and indies like this still come to switch 1. If there are performance problems with Metroid Prime 4 on switch 1, I may suddenly change my mind.
Re: Switch 2 Game-Key Cards Aren't Tied To Nintendo Accounts
I'm OK with paying for digital only games, as long as they have sales like on steam. As for people saying they will lose the games when the servers go down, there are some game preservationists sailing the high seas who can help with that.
Re: 'Switch 2 Editions' Are Supposedly A Switch Game Card And Download Code For The Upgrade Pack
I think lots of people said it already, but it is better to have an original switch game plus the upgrade key because you can play the game on both switch 1 and 2. Many people would rather play prime 4 on switch lite, for a more portable experience.
Re: Gallery: Here's A Closer Look At The Switch 2 Console And Accessories
@StewdaMegaManNerd yes, a valid point. I own and paid (once) for all of the games I emulate. I don't rent games and have been playing Wii and GameCube on a handheld for several years now.
Re: Gallery: Here's A Closer Look At The Switch 2 Console And Accessories
I am trying to think of something this can do that my Steamdeck can't already do.
Re: James Bond Will Return To Nintendo Switch 2, IO Interactive Confirms
I thought it was 007 themed dlc for hitman.
Re: Rumour: More Switch 2 Development Kit Rumours Emerge
This rumoured delay in dev kits could result in rumours of poorly optimized games at launch.
Re: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond Gets A New Trailer, But No Release Date
@WiltonRoots Perhaps I could say it about all videogame gateways? Perhaps I see them everywhere I look? I think these doors are more reminiscent than most though.
Re: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond Gets A New Trailer, But No Release Date
Why do all the doors look like vaginas? That castle too? It is going to be hard to ignore while unloading a throbbing cannon at them.
Re: ICYMI, Yes, A Blood-Soaked 'Terrifier' Game Is Coming To Switch
I am not interested in this game but I really want to check out the movies.
Re: Samsung Shows Off Its Switch-Inspired Foldable Handheld
A DS with one long folding screen would be a better design. That said, looks like these folding screens are not durable enough for a consoles lifecycle.
Re: Mario Day Celebrations Begin With Free Switch Online Trial (US)
So, Nintendo will allow me to use my own internet with my own electronic device for free? Very generous. Letting me borrow the really old games for a couple of weeks instead of honoring my purchases on older systems is also so very generous.
Re: Opinion: Nintendo, Let Us Buy The Games Being Delisted From Switch Online
I bought the games I want on previous consoles and I own them. I will not rent something I already own. It is a shame I can't play the games on switch without hacking it. It is fortunate that there are other machines that are more portable, have nicer screens and better build quality to play these games on, like the Retroid Pocket 5.
Re: Nintendo Confirms Removal Of Switch Online SNES Game
If you are disappointed by the loss of this game, google it's name plus the word 'rom'.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Doesn't Need To Worry About Steam Deck Sales
Steam Deck plays classic games without a subscription, including GameCube, Wii, Wii U and Switch (which is pretty retro now).
Re: Lollipop Chainsaw RePOP Teases "Nightmare Mode" Update For Switch
The nightmare update runs the frame rate even slower with even muddier textures. Can't wait.
Re: Nintendo President Reiterates Switch Online Will "Continue To Be Available" For Switch 2
Being charged to be allowed to connect your own device to your own internet connection seems like a terrible deal. As for trying to lease out old games I have already purchased on prior platforms, instead of honoring my prior purchases, not a good deal either.
Re: Review: NYXI Hyperion 2 - Are These Really "The Ultimate Replacement" For Your Switch Joy-Con?
The best third party replacement offerings have a D-pad.
Re: DOOM + DOOM II Switch Update 2 Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
Still finding bugs after over 30 years?
Re: Snake Smash Bros. amiibo Restock Spotted Online, Pre-Orders Now Open
Switch 2 amiibo support and new Metal Gear launch game confirmed.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's SNES Library With Three More Titles
I've been playing virtual console on Retroid Pocket 5. I can play the games I bought and own from all the old consoles, without having to buy them again or, heaven forbid, rent them.
Re: Review: Lollipop Chainsaw RePOP (Switch) - This Choppy Remaster Of A Cult Gem Doesn't Bring Any Cheer
A very late review. This game has been out for a long while. Nintendolife is usually my go-to for reviews but for this game I had to find other websites.
Re: Rumour: New 'Switch 2' Photos Show Off A Very Legit-Looking Joy-Con
I hope there is a lite version because it seems a bit too big for me.
Re: Feature: How Can Switch 2 'Fix' The eShop? Devs Share Their Storefront Stories
Ironically, the vast majority of games these devs have produced are the kind of thing I would like to avoid on the eShop too.
Re: Lollipop Chainsaw RePOP Switch Update Adds "Pin-Up Outfit" For Juliet, Here's A Look
This game doesn't work properly on Switch. No point releasing DLC.