This makes it sound like the Switch 2 physical version is a Switch 1 cart and a download code for the upgrade pack. Either way, I'm getting the Switch 1 version.
It was an ok Direct. Some really cool stuff like Yoshi's Woolly World for Switch 1 (the boxart was shown in the Switch 1 section in between LM3 and Link's Awakening), Mario Kart World, FFVII Remake, DK, Kirby Air Ride, Hyrule Warriors. But it clashes with some very disappointing stuff like the prices, how Nintendo Switch 2 Editions are handled, the C button functionality and GCN NSO being chosen over remastering GCN games.
More details about the console (e.g. release date, price, how backwards compatibility is handled, how NSO is handled, UI, mouse mode, what the C button is for) and the announcement of the remaining 1st party games releasing in 2025.
That seems reasonable considering what the Switch 1 Direct showed. I have no expectations on the 3rd party side of things.
Perhaps this is one of the retailers that broke the street date on Switch 1 games like Walmart or Amazon so Nintendo's punishing them by giving a smaller Switch 2 allocation?
Kingdom Hearts Integrum Masterpiece, it's a cloud version on Switch so it would be nice to have a native Switch 2 version. In general though, I think remastering Switch games for Switch 2 is a waste. Releasing games for Switch and Switch 2 at the same time (like the already announced Rhythm Heaven and Tomodachi Life) however is perfectly fine.
I'm very much expecting Switch 2 to be the same next week. Preorders sold out in minutes after the Direct and scalpers listing the console for like $1000.
I'd give it a 6. It was really nice seeing more Prime 4 and Legends Z-A with some of the other announcements also interesting but definitely a weaker Direct.
What this does confirm though is that the Switch 2 Direct is going to be packed with software and it's releasing sooner rather than later.
@PikaPhantom The system is backwards compatible, you can use Switch 1 games to showcase Switch 2 features. Like you could use Prime 4 to show off mouse mode and some already released 1st party open world Switch 1 games to show off what Switch 2 does to existing Switch 1 games. Games announced for the first time in the Switch 1 Direct could appear in the experience events too.
I think we're going to see a situation where this Direct's timing is such that it's complementary to the Switch 2 Direct. The Switch 1 general Direct is all about games so that the Switch 2 Direct is all about hardware.
This is really exciting, the more remasters/remakes that have to be released on Switch 1 the better because it reduces the chance of nonsensical remasters/remakes like BotW.
It's a shame that rumours are being prioritized over official Nintendo news. Nintendo announced Splatoon 3 SpringFest on Friday (theme, timing and redeemable ingame gear) but there's still no article.
I did think a Switch 1 general Direct prior to the Switch 2 Direct made sense but for like February/early March.
This is too close to the Switch 2 Direct so unless the Switch 2 Direct has no games (e.g. just a 15-20 minute hardware presentation), it doesn't make sense to have a Switch 1 Direct so close to the Switch 2 Direct.
XCX, I'm enjoying it so far. The game seems to be structured in such a way that despite being open world, I'm not feeling the burnout I felt early on in BotW.
Hopefully Peggle gets brought back as a collection (Peggle and Peggle 2 with Peggle Nights being part of the first game like the PS3/360 versions) like the MySims one.
If GCN NSO is happening as a result of the FCC listing, that gives me the impression Nintendo's going to go the PS5 route with Switch 2. GCN, DS, Wii, 3DS going to NSO meanwhile they remaster Switch 1 games.
I finished Angel of Darkness on Monday so I've just been randomly picking games in the lead up to XCX next week. The options I'm thinking about at the moment are returning to MK8 Deluxe, starting The Plucky Squire or replaying Tomb Raider 2's Golden Mask expansion to try and get all secrets to unlock a level I've never played before.
Finished Tomb Raider Chronicles earlier on in the week so now I'm on to Angel of Darkness. I am completing the games faster than I thought I would (expected Last Revelation + Chronicles to last until March 20th (XCX) and then Angel of Darkness lasting from like late April to mid May) so I'll need to decide on a different game to play after XCX as at the current rate I'll likely finish Angel of Darkness before March 20th.
I think the new generation entries will forever stick to the old battle style because of the competitive scene but I could see the new gameplay style appear in future Legends entries or spinoffs.
I think considering they decided to bring XCX to Switch that the next Xenoblade is XCX2 rather than XC4 similar to how XC1 was remastered to prepare people for XC3.
@splinters How I understood the vouchers news was that the current vouchers can only be used for games that get a Switch version. So like Prime 4 and Legends Z-A would be eligible however if the new Mario Kart is Switch 2 only you wouldn't be able to use a voucher for that Mario Kart game.
Gold points is what's being discontinued in March.
Summer event season is still a very big thing despite E3 being dead so I think Nintendo will split their Switch 2 pre-launch news between the April 2nd Switch 2 Direct and a general Direct in the usual mid/late June slot.
Perhaps for April it's like:
10 - 15 minutes talking about hardware
10 - 15 minutes talking about Switch 1 games including games that come prior to Switch 2's launch (driving home the big point that Switch 2 is backwards compatible with Switch 1 software)
15 - 20 minutes talking about Switch 2 only games with a focus on 3rd party games (the 1st party games being Mario Kart, 3D Mario and maybe 1 other game)
That should be enough news to allow the Switch 2 Experience events to be exciting. As for release timing, I think a September launch so they can have a very strong Fall/Holiday season of 3D Mario, Mario Kart and Legends Z-A.
It was a good Pokemon Presents because of Legends Z-A and what that means for a number of things. The gameplay of Legends Z-A looks fun and the late 2025 release (likely normal November slot) gives the impression it'll be more polished.
Also, we're in the situation where the Switch lineup is very barren after XCX in March so surely Nintendo has Switch 1 games to announce prior to the April Switch 2 Direct.
I worry that Nintendo will pull a Sony and remaster Switch 1 games to fill in the gaps between new Switch 2 games. So like BotW Remastered, TotK Remastered, Pikmin 4 Remastered, XC3 Remastered, Mario Odyssey Remastered, Fire Emblem Three Houses Remastered, etc.
Hopefully the transfer process is a lot less obnoxious this time, the Switch -> Switch transfer was obnoxiously bad. I miss the Wii -> Wii U and 3DS -> 3DS transfers where you do the transfer and then you can play stuff straight away without having to redownload anything.
@DwaynesGames The only chance for a February 1st party game at this point is if despite the existence of Pokemon Presents, there ends up being a Direct next week and something gets shadow dropped.
It'll be interesting to see how much of a boost MH Wilds gives PS5 when it comes out next week. On the one hand, MH World gave PS4 a big boost but on the other hand by buying MH Wilds at launch you run the risk of it being announced for Switch 2 in the April 2nd Direct and need to double dip.
It's a shame that the timing of this announcement deconfirms the existence of a February Direct but it'll be interesting to see how Legends Z-A gameplay is like. Legends Arceus was a very good game.
Tomb Raider 4-6 Remastered came out yesterday so now that's the focus. While I do think there will be a February general Direct (probably next week considering the week after is Pokemon Day), I don't think its announcements would distract me from the path of the next 4 games I play being Tomb Raider 4-6 and XCX.
Saber and Aspyr work on the Legend trilogy which ends up launching in February 2026 (maybe not the 14th this time considering it's a Saturday but around then)
A different studio works on a Switch 2 port of the Survivor Trilogy which comes out around Switch 2's launch
Nice to see confirmation, will double dip like with 1-3.
@Truegamer79 The current pattern suggests Legend/Anniversary/Underworld would happen in February 2026 so unless Switch 2 gets delayed to 2026, I think the Survivor Trilogy (2013, Rise, Shadow) will come first.
Switch OLED is $349 so it seems unrealistic that Switch 2 would only be $50 more expensive taking into account that Nintendo's not discounting the current Switch. This sounds like $449 minimum for Switch 2 but probably more like $499.
I don't mind when Switch 2 releases, if more time is needed to create a strong launch lineup then use the extra time. What I don't want to see is a repeat of the early 3DS and Wii U droughts.
Figured I'd play some MK8 Deluxe. Between Splatfest next weekend and Tomb Raider 4-6 Remastered now less than 2 weeks away, I decided that there's not much point in me starting a new game this week.
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Re: Community: Which Switch 2 Games Are You Wishlisting?
Undecided on Switch 2 in general because of the pricing mess but will be definitely picking up the Switch 1 versions of Prime 4 and Legends Z-A.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (5th April)
Continuing with XCX, currently doing a bunch of side quests before starting chapter 7.
Re: Yep, Metroid Prime 4's Box Art For Switch 2 Is... Corrupted
This makes it sound like the Switch 2 physical version is a Switch 1 cart and a download code for the upgrade pack. Either way, I'm getting the Switch 1 version.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Direct April 2025 - Every Announcement, Game Reveal & Trailer
Some of the images aren't of the games being titled:
Re: Poll: So, How Would You Rate The Nintendo Switch 2 Direct?
It was an ok Direct. Some really cool stuff like Yoshi's Woolly World for Switch 1 (the boxart was shown in the Switch 1 section in between LM3 and Link's Awakening), Mario Kart World, FFVII Remake, DK, Kirby Air Ride, Hyrule Warriors. But it clashes with some very disappointing stuff like the prices, how Nintendo Switch 2 Editions are handled, the C button functionality and GCN NSO being chosen over remastering GCN games.
Re: Nintendo Treehouse Returns This Week With Two Presentations On Switch 2 Gameplay
Good to see that those that were unable to go to the hands on events don't miss out.
Re: UK Charts: Old Favourites Keep Nintendo In The Race As Xenoblade Plummets From Top 10
XCX is sold out at multiple retailers. Next Amazon stock is on April 7th, out of stock at most Smyths stores, out of stock at HMV, etc.
Re: Talking Point: What We Expect From The Switch 2 Direct
More details about the console (e.g. release date, price, how backwards compatibility is handled, how NSO is handled, UI, mouse mode, what the C button is for) and the announcement of the remaining 1st party games releasing in 2025.
That seems reasonable considering what the Switch 1 Direct showed. I have no expectations on the 3rd party side of things.
Re: Switch 2 Pre-Orders Expected To Sell Out "Day One" Due To Limited Unit Allocation
Perhaps this is one of the retailers that broke the street date on Switch 1 games like Walmart or Amazon so Nintendo's punishing them by giving a smaller Switch 2 allocation?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (29th March)
More XCX, I'm spending a lot of time doing various side quests before moving onto story chapter 6. The game is a lot of fun.
Re: Japanese Charts: Xenoblade Chronicles X Arrives In Style And Sends Monster Hunter Packing
@GamingFan4Lyf According to Push Square, the Japan launch week sales for XCX on Wii U was 85,586.
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2015/05/japanese_sales_charts_ps4_is_finally_knocked_from_top_spot
Do note that the game released on a Wednesday for Wii U meanwhile the Switch version was a Thursday so it's not a perfect comparison.
Re: Talking Point: Which Switch Game Needs A 'Nintendo Switch 2 Edition' The Most?
Kingdom Hearts Integrum Masterpiece, it's a cloud version on Switch so it would be nice to have a native Switch 2 version. In general though, I think remastering Switch games for Switch 2 is a waste. Releasing games for Switch and Switch 2 at the same time (like the already announced Rhythm Heaven and Tomodachi Life) however is perfectly fine.
Re: Huh, The Pokémon Company's Statement On TCG Shortages Sure Looks Familiar
I'm very much expecting Switch 2 to be the same next week. Preorders sold out in minutes after the Direct and scalpers listing the console for like $1000.
Re: Poll: So, How Would You Rate The Nintendo Direct For March 2025?
I'd give it a 6. It was really nice seeing more Prime 4 and Legends Z-A with some of the other announcements also interesting but definitely a weaker Direct.
What this does confirm though is that the Switch 2 Direct is going to be packed with software and it's releasing sooner rather than later.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Direct Predictions - What Do You Want To See?
@PikaPhantom The system is backwards compatible, you can use Switch 1 games to showcase Switch 2 features. Like you could use Prime 4 to show off mouse mode and some already released 1st party open world Switch 1 games to show off what Switch 2 does to existing Switch 1 games. Games announced for the first time in the Switch 1 Direct could appear in the experience events too.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Direct Predictions - What Do You Want To See?
I think we're going to see a situation where this Direct's timing is such that it's complementary to the Switch 2 Direct. The Switch 1 general Direct is all about games so that the Switch 2 Direct is all about hardware.
Re: Nintendo Direct Confirmed For Tomorrow, 27th March 2025
This is really exciting, the more remasters/remakes that have to be released on Switch 1 the better because it reduces the chance of nonsensical remasters/remakes like BotW.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Switch 2 To Launch In June With 3-Phase Software Plan
It's a shame that rumours are being prioritized over official Nintendo news. Nintendo announced Splatoon 3 SpringFest on Friday (theme, timing and redeemable ingame gear) but there's still no article.
Re: Rumour: A Switch 1 Direct Presentation May Take Place This Week
I did think a Switch 1 general Direct prior to the Switch 2 Direct made sense but for like February/early March.
This is too close to the Switch 2 Direct so unless the Switch 2 Direct has no games (e.g. just a 15-20 minute hardware presentation), it doesn't make sense to have a Switch 1 Direct so close to the Switch 2 Direct.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (22nd March)
XCX, I'm enjoying it so far. The game seems to be structured in such a way that despite being open world, I'm not feeling the burnout I felt early on in BotW.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's SNES Library With Four More Titles
Were these games compatible with the SNES mouse?
Re: Plants vs. Zombies Looks Set To Be Revived And 'Reloaded' On Switch
Hopefully Peggle gets brought back as a collection (Peggle and Peggle 2 with Peggle Nights being part of the first game like the PS3/360 versions) like the MySims one.
Re: Review: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition (Switch) - An Underrated Gem Transforms Into The Series' Best
Really excited to play when my physical copy arrives on Thursday.
Re: Talking Point: Will Metroid Prime 4 Get A Switch 2 Release?
If GCN NSO is happening as a result of the FCC listing, that gives me the impression Nintendo's going to go the PS5 route with Switch 2. GCN, DS, Wii, 3DS going to NSO meanwhile they remaster Switch 1 games.
As a result Prime 4 would be:
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (15th March)
I finished Angel of Darkness on Monday so I've just been randomly picking games in the lead up to XCX next week. The options I'm thinking about at the moment are returning to MK8 Deluxe, starting The Plucky Squire or replaying Tomb Raider 2's Golden Mask expansion to try and get all secrets to unlock a level I've never played before.
Re: Switch 2 Predicted To Cost "$400 Or More"
I hope the PS5 Astro Bot bundle (PS5 console + 2024 Astro Bot game) for $399 (digital console)/$449 (disc console) keeps Switch 2 pricing in check.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (8th March)
Finished Tomb Raider Chronicles earlier on in the week so now I'm on to Angel of Darkness. I am completing the games faster than I thought I would (expected Last Revelation + Chronicles to last until March 20th (XCX) and then Angel of Darkness lasting from like late April to mid May) so I'll need to decide on a different game to play after XCX as at the current rate I'll likely finish Angel of Darkness before March 20th.
Re: Opinion: Legends Z-A's Xenoblade-Style Battles Are Pokémon's Most Exciting Evolution In Years
I think the new generation entries will forever stick to the old battle style because of the competitive scene but I could see the new gameplay style appear in future Legends entries or spinoffs.
Re: Monolith Soft Adds Final Fantasy Cutscene Artist To Its Ranks, So What's It Cooking For Switch 2?
I think considering they decided to bring XCX to Switch that the next Xenoblade is XCX2 rather than XC4 similar to how XC1 was remastered to prepare people for XC3.
Re: Talking Point: What We Expect From The Switch 2 Direct
@splinters How I understood the vouchers news was that the current vouchers can only be used for games that get a Switch version. So like Prime 4 and Legends Z-A would be eligible however if the new Mario Kart is Switch 2 only you wouldn't be able to use a voucher for that Mario Kart game.
Gold points is what's being discontinued in March.
Re: Talking Point: What We Expect From The Switch 2 Direct
Summer event season is still a very big thing despite E3 being dead so I think Nintendo will split their Switch 2 pre-launch news between the April 2nd Switch 2 Direct and a general Direct in the usual mid/late June slot.
Perhaps for April it's like:
That should be enough news to allow the Switch 2 Experience events to be exciting. As for release timing, I think a September launch so they can have a very strong Fall/Holiday season of 3D Mario, Mario Kart and Legends Z-A.
Re: Upcoming Nintendo Switch Games And Accessories For March And April 2025
XCX and Tetris Forever. Will be very interesting to see how Nintendo approaches this month on the announcements side of things.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (1st March)
Continuing with Tomb Raider 4-6 Remastered, completed The Last Revelation earlier in the week and now onto Chronicles.
Re: How Would You Rate The Pokémon Presents Showcase For February 2025?
It was a good Pokemon Presents because of Legends Z-A and what that means for a number of things. The gameplay of Legends Z-A looks fun and the late 2025 release (likely normal November slot) gives the impression it'll be more polished.
Also, we're in the situation where the Switch lineup is very barren after XCX in March so surely Nintendo has Switch 1 games to announce prior to the April Switch 2 Direct.
Re: Talking Point: Can Nintendo Keep Up The One-Game-A-Month Release Pace On Switch 2?
I worry that Nintendo will pull a Sony and remaster Switch 1 games to fill in the gaps between new Switch 2 games. So like BotW Remastered, TotK Remastered, Pikmin 4 Remastered, XC3 Remastered, Mario Odyssey Remastered, Fire Emblem Three Houses Remastered, etc.
Re: Poll: Will You Trade In Your Switch When Switch 2 Arrives?
Hopefully the transfer process is a lot less obnoxious this time, the Switch -> Switch transfer was obnoxiously bad. I miss the Wii -> Wii U and 3DS -> 3DS transfers where you do the transfer and then you can play stuff straight away without having to redownload anything.
As for trade-in, probably not.
Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns HD Tops Switch Charts In Opening Month (US)
@DwaynesGames The only chance for a February 1st party game at this point is if despite the existence of Pokemon Presents, there ends up being a Direct next week and something gets shadow dropped.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (22nd February)
Continuing with Tomb Raider The Last Revelation and so far it's mostly as fantastic as I remember it being.
Re: Talking Point: The 3DS Library Is Ripe For Switch 2, But Is NSO The Way To Go?
Remasters/remakes for sure because it makes physical version more likely.
Re: Japanese Charts: Donkey Kong Swings Back To Claim Another Win
It'll be interesting to see how much of a boost MH Wilds gives PS5 when it comes out next week. On the one hand, MH World gave PS4 a big boost but on the other hand by buying MH Wilds at launch you run the risk of it being announced for Switch 2 in the April 2nd Direct and need to double dip.
Re: Pokémon Presents Announced For 27th February 2025
It's a shame that the timing of this announcement deconfirms the existence of a February Direct but it'll be interesting to see how Legends Z-A gameplay is like. Legends Arceus was a very good game.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (15th February)
Tomb Raider 4-6 Remastered came out yesterday so now that's the focus. While I do think there will be a February general Direct (probably next week considering the week after is Pokemon Day), I don't think its announcements would distract me from the path of the next 4 games I play being Tomb Raider 4-6 and XCX.
Re: Tomb Raider IV-VI Remastered Physical Release Seemingly Teased
@DennisReynolds My guess is:
Re: Tomb Raider IV-VI Remastered Physical Release Seemingly Teased
Nice to see confirmation, will double dip like with 1-3.
@Truegamer79 The current pattern suggests Legend/Anniversary/Underworld would happen in February 2026 so unless Switch 2 gets delayed to 2026, I think the Survivor Trilogy (2013, Rise, Shadow) will come first.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (8th February)
Splatoon 3 for the Splatfest and more MK8 Deluxe. Just 6 more days to wait until Tomb Raider 4-6 Remastered releases.
Re: Don't Worry, Nintendo's Thinking About Affordability With Switch 2 Pricing
Switch OLED is $349 so it seems unrealistic that Switch 2 would only be $50 more expensive taking into account that Nintendo's not discounting the current Switch. This sounds like $449 minimum for Switch 2 but probably more like $499.
Re: Nintendo Reconfirms Release Windows For Major Upcoming Switch Games
@dew12333 Maybe it's not actually Mario Kart but rather something else like Nintendo Kart?
Re: Opinion: With Forecasts Slashed (Again), Absolutely Everyone's Antsy For Switch 2 ASAP
I don't mind when Switch 2 releases, if more time is needed to create a strong launch lineup then use the extra time. What I don't want to see is a repeat of the early 3DS and Wii U droughts.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (1st February)
Figured I'd play some MK8 Deluxe. Between Splatfest next weekend and Tomb Raider 4-6 Remastered now less than 2 weeks away, I decided that there's not much point in me starting a new game this week.
Re: Video: 8 Exciting New Games Coming To Nintendo Switch In February 2025
Tomb Raider 4-6 Remastered is my most anticipated game of the year, really excited to replay the games.