Pokémon Scarlet And Violet Version 4.0.0 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes

Well maybe I'll be able to stand playing them for more than 10 minutes now.

I thought that maybe I'd give this series another try...I didn't like Arceus, and Sword was very forgettable...I figured I'd wait for a sale at least...and...oh right, these games never go on sale. >.>

Honestly, I'm excited to finally dive into my copy of Violet. I haven't played it, since I mainly just played Scarlet- but given that they're making the game perform better, I'll be able to enjoy it more than I already did (really loved the gameplay, just hated the issues with FPS and glitches).

I hope Shiny Overworld Sound, like PL:A has, is in this update or we missing/skipping/losing even more Shinies on NS2!?

@Joeynator3000 both are currently 25% off (physical) and Scarlett was as cheap as $35 earlier this year.

Is it weird to actually prefer the lower frame rate? 60fps tends to give me uncanny valley feelings.

@Supadav03 I don't do physical anymore...

@Joeynator3000 I hear that. I’m about 90% digital myself. If you are cool with sites like G2A, digital copies can be had for $40-$45.

I thought the games were fine. Probably unpopular opinion but I enjoyed SwSh much more. Never finished SV DLC, so I may do that once my Switch 2 arrives (please let it on or close to launch day 🙏)

I could not touch my copy of the game because of the hardware was holding this game back but now I can play it properly

I played for a bit after the update went live and the DLC feels more stable on Switch 1 than the last time I checked. I think I’ll work on finishing the DLC then as the freezes early on in the DLC were what made me stop.

Maybe certain games such as Xenoblade X and Paper Mario are already updated for Switch 2 ?

How big are these switch 2 upgrades packs? As in file sizes, seems like they will add up quick...

This game really looked bad on launch. Lots of slowdown and just not the same level of fidelity as other Nintendo releases. Feels like Gamefreak has their devs from 2004. I completed two Pokedex so not unplayable but expected more. Hope Switch 2 looks better but it's prob a minor upgrade

It's still mind blowing the cult Game Freak has managed to create here. Some of the worst perfomant and looking games on the Switch and yet they manage to sell millions, reusing the same formula for over 20 years outside Arceus.

I liked Pokemon on the Game Boy Colour but man, can't imagine just playing the same thing, but at 20fps and with PS2 graphics.

@rvcolem1 : The latest update was tiny, but because updates are downloaded in bulk (irrespective of what version you have on your physical cartridge), the current update data size is 4.9GB.

Found a physical copy of Violet + DLC on a sale a year or so ago.
My daughter was not impressed of it after playing Arceus first.
But I guess now is the time for me to give it a go, seems to be a divisive game.

@rvcolem1
It will vary wildly between games. The 3D Zelda’s are large because they’re proper Switch 2 versions, presumably with some nice higher resolution textures and such. Pokemon is just increasing the frame rate and internal rendering resolution, which is just a tiny change in code. There might be some extra textures for the interface elements if they’re doing things right, but either way there won’t be much.

It still should of run better on Switch 1 then the sorry state they released it in.

At least the upgrade is free I suppose 😕

@rvcolem1 This one at least is very small, just downloaded it and it took me like five seconds.

I completed the Scarlet Dex. Maybe, just maybe, if the game really plays better on Switch 2, I might get the DLC, but only because all the starters are in the second one...

@OrangeSoda The problem is that these games don't even consistently hit 30 fps. In a lot of cases the games suffers from terrible pop-ins and slide show performance and stutters occasionally.

@OrangeSoda not at all. 30fps is fine, and people forget they played plenty games in 30fps and lower on consoles between psone to now. 60fps is undeniably smoother, but can appear too smooth at times, causing a similar look to “soap opera effect” - especially if you’ve been playing in 30fps and then switch to something in 60. 60fps generally feels better to play, but you could argue that a consistent 30 perhaps looks more “cinematic” which is probably what you prefer about it.

Really excited for this one because of how smooth and fluid the footage looks. It was my favourite Pokemon game, except for the performance.

@Joeynator3000 Well that’s the bed you chose to lie in so them’s the consequences.

@Fizza Barely anything. It's a small code change, no (or barely any) new assets.

@OrangeSoda I prefer the higher FPS, but I agree that it feels cursed or forbidden given that this series usually barely hits 30 FPS.

@Ainze It's ironically more than a tiny change in code. For some reason with SV, the animations and in-game clock are tied to the game's FPS. It's why with emulators forcing 60FPS, the game breaks entirely. They had to optimize the game again and go through the code just to get this to work.

@VoidofLight Thanks for the insight! Binaries are still trivial in (storage) size to AV assets, but yes, more than a tiny change indeed.

@Wraggadam1 I understand your point, especially when 30 FPS is well made. But, after a few minutes of 60+ FPS and I can't go back, unless it's for cutscenes/movies.

While we're on this topic, on my laptop, for example, since I have a RTX 4080, I can't ever see myself playing below 70 FPS (though 60 is fine, but it's just that my screen is at 240hz so it's good to take advantage of it).

However, on my Series X, on a TV, 60 FPS is more than enough. Must be the way TVs are vs monitors.

@Ramouz agree, it’s a hard switch back, but generally, after 30 minutes or so, I’m fine. Not a dealbreaker for me, and the switch back to 60 can feel overly smooth at first change, but if given the choice upfront, and 60 is stable, I’ll go for 60, I just don’t belong to the 30fps is unplayable/burns my eyes out/trash brigade.

Similar with Joysticks, all I hear this day is Hall effect, but I’m close to 100% certain that 80-90% of players wouldn’t know Hall effect if they had them in their hands, they just echo what everyone wants. Plus, Hall effect is not perfect, yes, drift not an issue, but there are other issues.

@Fizza @rvcolem1 At NS1: 3.0.1 - 4,9GB, 4.0.0 - 4,9GB. At NS2: 4.0.0 will be 5,1GB!

Perhaps I'll finally finish the second DLC if it runs better. I couldn't tolerate it on Switch and gave up. My pre-ordered Switch 2 has just been shipped so I'll find out soon enough.

Pokémon Scarlet was actually the main Switch game in the beginning of the year. Whenever I get a Switch 2 I might just go back to it. I didn’t finish the DLC.