@Yoshi3 thank you
So many people clearly misunderstanding on purpose, because they don't want to actually deal with a conversation of how bad the design of the locations is.
The problem is not the linearity by itself.
Most places are just corridors connecting square/circular rooms. Just finished replaying Prime 1 and it's so boring the rooms design in Prime 4. Most of the time you're going straight one way without looking back (or you go straight to the end and then get back, like Ice Area).
I said it before in another news. The only reason why I accept this mess is because it was clearly a troubled project that tried to merge the original Metroid Prime 4 and the vision Retro had for the game, it's a mix of half baked ideas and they tried to glue them togheter and create something.
It's still an enjoyable game at the end of the day, but please let's not accept this as a baseline of what a good Metroid game is.
Btw I have no idea why some people are saying that with time people will like this game more, if anything, after the "being the new thing" passed, more and more people are going to see the mediocrity of it
Has anyone actually played it on NSO?
I started it this morning and played through to the end, amazing game as always (played it to death as a kid, and I had it both on DS and 3DS), but I had to use the Save State because the Save of the game don't work. You can't even press on it in the pause screen.
@the_beaver i'm not even talking about the quality, if you're having fun with it I'm genuinely happy for you.
It's just that the entire game feels like random ideas put togheter without much cohesion.
Every location is self contained.
The desert feels like it was put with glue to connect everything, the bike barely has any unique and interesting use and feels like an afterthought and the story, without spoiling too much since you have not finished it from what I understand, feels like 2 different stories from 2 different games that were fused togheter, both of them barely touched (I could go into more depth but don't want to spoil anything to you).
The entire base camp felt the same to me. From the way it present itself it felt like something that would have had more importance to the overall game, but you need to go there just for the Cannon Upgrade.
Probably the original Prime 4 was a completely different game and when Retro came in, they tried to stick togheter the game they wanted to make and the material the previous studio made.
Of course this is 100% speculation of my part, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case.
Genuinely glad Prime 4 is so low on the list, and for once the hype of being the new title didn't automaticaly made it go top 5.
It's not a bad game by any means, but oh my god I have really nothing particularly good to say about the Level Design of this game.
Everything about it it's the definition of "Eh I guess it's fine".
Metroid Dread was such an awesome game, and it was so disappointed to see Prime 4 be so underwhelming.
Honestly it definitely feels like a good game that could be much more. In a world where exists Silksong, Baldur's Gate, Expedition 33 and Elden Ring and many others, I think Metroid Prime could be so much more.
Prime 4 it's a solid good enough game, that doesn't tarnish the name of the franchise by any means, but it's does nothing more than that for what I've played.
Hope it becomes better.
One of my favourite game ever made Happy to finally get my hands on it again.
Let's hope the port is not a mess like the first one. The save of the game doesn't even work and you have to use the Save State of the built in emulator, wich is absurd. I don't know if they fixed it later.
I played all the mainline Kirby games (except the one with Kirby being a ball where you have to draw the platforms, but I don't know if it's Main game), and to me Planet Robobot absolutely destroys any other Kirby and it's not even a competition, I'm talking about utter annihilation.
It's soo good by any metric while the rest of the series goes from mediocre to simply "Good", in my humble opinion.
@Dinglehopper didn't even watch the trailer, as I don't want to get spoiled to much. But I was soo much hoping Rosalina would have not be the second strong indopendent woman stereotype. I don't know if I can stomach an entire film with 2 Peaches. 1 was already bad enough.
Wait, all these characters are free? Or only some of them? Because if that the case I could change my mind once it becomes cheaper. Buying this if they announce a lot of cool niche Sonic characters (and they're not DLC but free). And Tikal.
Could't care less about any other Sega series or special guests from random cartoons.
That game is basically FE Awakening X Fates and the Extra Modes where you should have spent most of the time are just a glorified selection screen, instead of trying to emulate somewhat the feel of the original series like HW did with the Adventures Maps.
Genuinely thinks people sleeps too much on this games.
Hyrule Warriors got more than 300hours out of me, and Age of Calamity had a fantastic Battle system that made it really fun and the soundtrack was one of the best I've ever heard. Honestly both BotW and TotK could have learned a lot from that game for the Battles and the music.
I can't wait for this one. Hoping that this time they won't screw the story.
@Munchlax Fire Emblem 1 on the NES literally had a 1000+ years old loli dragon/Human.
This series as been anime cringe since day one.
Anyway IMHO 3Houses had a bit too much focus on the whole "School" system and definitely waste too much time with trivial stuff like the random Maps with bad level design and with useless Quests; Engage cut a lot of that useless frills and the gameplay is probably the more complex in the series.
Xillia 2 always felt like such a wasted opportunity to me. It has the collest locations of the entire series IMHO, but instead of showing more of those, they recycled 90% of the older maps from the first game.
Can't say more without heavily spoiling the first one.
In the last few years Dragon Ball made a Card Game, a game where you play as a citizen and need to escape from a DB Villain, a Moba, an Open World RPG, a 2D Fighter, an RPG Fighter and a 3D Fighter.
Comment section: I wish they didn't just made fighting games.
I think it's the first game in the series I'll skip. Everything about it looks so terribly cheap and they got rid of the only thing that kept me from abbadoning the series, exploring a new region.
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Re: Square Enix Teases More For Dragon Quest, NieR and Final Fantasy In 2026
I need a Dragon Quest IV HD remake so badly. Is my favourite (along with 11)
Re: Nintendo Suggests Metroid Prime 4's Tortured Development Meant It Was "Divorced From The Changing Of Times"
@Yoshi3 thank you
So many people clearly misunderstanding on purpose, because they don't want to actually deal with a conversation of how bad the design of the locations is.
The problem is not the linearity by itself.
Most places are just corridors connecting square/circular rooms. Just finished replaying Prime 1 and it's so boring the rooms design in Prime 4. Most of the time you're going straight one way without looking back (or you go straight to the end and then get back, like Ice Area).
The Mines being the most egregious example of it.
Re: Nintendo Suggests Metroid Prime 4's Tortured Development Meant It Was "Divorced From The Changing Of Times"
@robotreptile yeah, every new location is worse that the one before.
It becomes more linear, with always less and less exploration as the game progresses. And the level design become worse.
Re: Nintendo Suggests Metroid Prime 4's Tortured Development Meant It Was "Divorced From The Changing Of Times"
I said it before in another news. The only reason why I accept this mess is because it was clearly a troubled project that tried to merge the original Metroid Prime 4 and the vision Retro had for the game, it's a mix of half baked ideas and they tried to glue them togheter and create something.
It's still an enjoyable game at the end of the day, but please let's not accept this as a baseline of what a good Metroid game is.
Btw I have no idea why some people are saying that with time people will like this game more, if anything, after the "being the new thing" passed, more and more people are going to see the mediocrity of it
Re: The Danganronpa Series Has Now Sold Over 10 Million Copies
I have the third game since it's release but never got around to play it.
The second one felt like the perfect ending.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077's Massive Switch 2 eShop Discount Was An "Error"
@cedarhyped it must be an obvious error to be valid.
Like something that usually costs 1000€ with the shown price being 10€, or something like that.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077's Massive Switch 2 eShop Discount Was An "Error"
@jsty3105 I live in Italy, and I work in a store.
Here you are 100% forced to sell it for that price, I thought it was the same elsewhere, but I was obviously wrong.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077's Massive Switch 2 eShop Discount Was An "Error"
@cedarhyped this is honestly so strange.
In phisical stores you have to sell it for the price the customer saw it, doesn't matter if it was wrong.
Re: Feature: The Best Hidden Gems And Underrated Switch 1 & 2 Games Of 2025
I'll probably get Ruffy and the Riveside before the sales ends. That intrigued me already when it was announced.
Re: Opinion: Rayman 2 Is An Overlooked Platforming Classic About A Rebel With A Cause
Has anyone actually played it on NSO?
I started it this morning and played through to the end, amazing game as always (played it to death as a kid, and I had it both on DS and 3DS), but I had to use the Save State because the Save of the game don't work. You can't even press on it in the pause screen.
Nintendo really need to fix this.
Re: Fans Uncover Unused Dialogue From Metroid Prime 4
@the_beaver i'm not even talking about the quality, if you're having fun with it I'm genuinely happy for you.
It's just that the entire game feels like random ideas put togheter without much cohesion.
Every location is self contained.
The desert feels like it was put with glue to connect everything, the bike barely has any unique and interesting use and feels like an afterthought and the story, without spoiling too much since you have not finished it from what I understand, feels like 2 different stories from 2 different games that were fused togheter, both of them barely touched (I could go into more depth but don't want to spoil anything to you).
The entire base camp felt the same to me. From the way it present itself it felt like something that would have had more importance to the overall game, but you need to go there just for the Cannon Upgrade.
Probably the original Prime 4 was a completely different game and when Retro came in, they tried to stick togheter the game they wanted to make and the material the previous studio made.
Of course this is 100% speculation of my part, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case.
Re: Fans Uncover Unused Dialogue From Metroid Prime 4
@Sebos you can smell the development hell through every location of the game.
Re: Users Are Reporting "Greatly Reduced" Input Lag On Zelda: Wind Waker For NSO
Wait so the only reason I sucked at F-Zero GX was the input delay, now everything make sense.
Now I'll get back to it and I'll do every Story Mission on the first Try. 💯
Re: Multiple Switch Games Have Received Switch 2 Compatibility Fixes
@darkswabber yeah same here.
Played it 3 months ago and didn't have any issues.
Re: Multiple Switch Games Have Received Switch 2 Compatibility Fixes
Please fix A Hat in Time.
The game always crash upon entering the third world.
Re: Mega Man Returns In 2027 With A "Brand-New Entry" For Switch And Switch 2
Do they need to make yet another Megaman NES alike? Do something different with Megaman please, try to evolve it a bit.
I like the franchise, but this is getting repetitive.
Re: Best Metroid Games Of All Time
@SillyG yeah Prime Hunters was an exellent game for what it wanted to be.
The Main Story was a quick and fun ride, and the multiplayer was absolutely glorious.
I'm still hoping for a Remaster of the multiplayer portion of the game with online, I would waste my life away om something like that.
Re: Best Metroid Games Of All Time
Genuinely glad Prime 4 is so low on the list, and for once the hype of being the new title didn't automaticaly made it go top 5.
It's not a bad game by any means, but oh my god I have really nothing particularly good to say about the Level Design of this game.
Everything about it it's the definition of "Eh I guess it's fine".
Metroid Dread was such an awesome game, and it was so disappointed to see Prime 4 be so underwhelming.
Re: ICYMI: Here's What Else Might Be On The Way To Switch Online's N64 Library
Mistical Ninja Goemon please!
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Metroid Prime 4: Beyond?
@VoidofLight I'm at the mines right now and I'm completely at a loss for words for how bad this part is.
There's nothing going on. Barely any enemies, you just go in a straight lines until you get to the next part.
I'm so confused.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Metroid Prime 4: Beyond?
@Dr_Corndog I love the Boss Fights, they're only downside is that sometimes they really are far too generous with the HP drops.
But they're good and not too Easy.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Metroid Prime 4: Beyond?
@cagriggs I spent 2 Hours trying to explore the world after they said that. I absolutely hate how they made you think it was non linear.
Anyway this is a nice game but it ends there, I have no idea where all those 9 and 10 are coming from.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Metroid Prime 4: Beyond?
Honestly it definitely feels like a good game that could be much more. In a world where exists Silksong, Baldur's Gate, Expedition 33 and Elden Ring and many others, I think Metroid Prime could be so much more.
Prime 4 it's a solid good enough game, that doesn't tarnish the name of the franchise by any means, but it's does nothing more than that for what I've played.
Hope it becomes better.
Re: Rolling Stone's GOTY List Shows A Whole Lot Of Love For One Nintendo Mascot
@Kilroy i Remember playing 8 for 2 week and forgetting it's existence.
I'm so glad they decided to innovate with World. I really didn't need another MK wich was the same game as the other eight.
Glad to see so many people in the comments saying positive stuff about it.
I remember more people being disapppinted on day 1.
Re: Rolling Stone's GOTY List Shows A Whole Lot Of Love For One Nintendo Mascot
@Ogbert People keep forgetting that MK8 needed 2 DLC and a new version to become good and it's so frustrating.
Especially with the continuous comparison with World.
Re: Jennifer Hale Says She Was "Thrown Under The Bus" Amid Bayonetta 3 Casting Controversy
Didn't even realize the voice had changed if there wasn't that silly controversy. She did a perfect job.
Re: This PlayStation Platforming Sequel Makes The Jump To Switch Very Soon
One of my favourite game ever made
Happy to finally get my hands on it again.
Let's hope the port is not a mess like the first one.
The save of the game doesn't even work and you have to use the Save State of the built in emulator, wich is absurd.
I don't know if they fixed it later.
Re: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond Difficulty Settings Revealed By Nintendo
I will never understand why so many games give accessibily and easier options for everyone, but never the other way around.
That's really bother me. I'm not playing an entire game from the beginning again just to experience the difficulty I wanted.
I hope it's still relatively tough even on normal.
Re: Best Kirby Games Of All Time
I played all the mainline Kirby games (except the one with Kirby being a ball where you have to draw the platforms, but I don't know if it's Main game), and to me Planet Robobot absolutely destroys any other Kirby and it's not even a competition, I'm talking about utter annihilation.
It's soo good by any metric while the rest of the series goes from mediocre to simply "Good", in my humble opinion.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy Movie Trailer Reveals Rosalina, Bowser Jr., And More
@Dinglehopper didn't even watch the trailer, as I don't want to get spoiled to much.
But I was soo much hoping Rosalina would have not be the second strong indopendent woman stereotype. I don't know if I can stomach an entire film with 2 Peaches. 1 was already bad enough.
Re: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds New Free Characters Update, Coming Soon
Wait, all these characters are free? Or only some of them? Because if that the case I could change my mind once it becomes cheaper.
Buying this if they announce a lot of cool niche Sonic characters (and they're not DLC but free).
And Tikal.
Could't care less about any other Sega series or special guests from random cartoons.
Re: Random: "It's Just My Comfort Game" - Stranger Things Actor Is On His Third Playthrough Of Zelda: TOTK
@GravyThief yeah, who didn't play BotW and thought "There's not enough stuff to collect"?
Glad they add another entire overworld, other 900+ Koroks and almost doubled everything else. I was worried I could beat the game in just 200 hours.
Re: Images Of Yoshi From 'The Super Mario Galaxy Movie' Have Leaked Online
@N00BiSH I like Mario in the movie
But In that render it almost looks like AI.
Re: Digital Foundry Delivers Its Tech Verdict On Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment
God I'm so bad at this stuff.
I swear I didn't even realize I was playing at 60 and I thought it was 30.
Re: Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment Already Has Free Updates Planned
@CaleBoi25 I guess you have to first unlock the character who use that weapons. 3 hours in and I don't have it yet.
Re: The Legend Of Zelda Movie Is Now "In Production" In New Zealand
Please don't make Zelda an arrogant strong Independent woman stereotype.
Peach in the Mario movie was the most obnoxious and boring character I've ever seen in my life.
Re: Ys vs. Trails In The Sky: Alternative Saga Update Enhances Resolution On Switch 2
Had no idea this was released
I check regularly the "Coming soon" section of the e-shop and never saw it.
Oh well, I had a good time with this on PSP, sooner or later I'll take this.
Re: Poll: So, Will You Be Getting Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment?
@Kingy I was so disapppinted with FE Warriors.
That game is basically FE Awakening X Fates and the Extra Modes where you should have spent most of the time are just a glorified selection screen, instead of trying to emulate somewhat the feel of the original series like HW did with the Adventures Maps.
Re: The First Review For Dragon Quest I & II HD-2D Remake Is In
This is far more hype than 3 to me.
Really curious on how they fleshed out 1. And never played 2.
Re: Pokémon Legends: Z-A Scored US' Biggest Physical Game Launch Since TOTK
Everyone in the comments making up that anyone ever said this game would have sold poorly, when the argument was the exact opposite.
Re: Poll: So, Will You Be Getting Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment?
Genuinely thinks people sleeps too much on this games.
Hyrule Warriors got more than 300hours out of me, and Age of Calamity had a fantastic Battle system that made it really fun and the soundtrack was one of the best I've ever heard. Honestly both BotW and TotK could have learned a lot from that game for the Battles and the music.
I can't wait for this one. Hoping that this time they won't screw the story.
Re: Fire Emblem Shadows Gets A Free Update Adding New Story, Map And More
@Munchlax Fire Emblem 1 on the NES literally had a 1000+ years old loli dragon/Human.
This series as been anime cringe since day one.
Anyway IMHO 3Houses had a bit too much focus on the whole "School" system and definitely waste too much time with trivial stuff like the random Maps with bad level design and with useless Quests; Engage cut a lot of that useless frills and the gameplay is probably the more complex in the series.
Re: Xbox Reiterates Its Support For Switch 2
@Warioware yeah honestly I could't care less about anything Microsoft related. Just give me Conker Remake and Banjo Nuts and Bolt.
Re: Tales Of Xillia 2 Remastered On The Way, With More To Come
Xillia 2 always felt like such a wasted opportunity to me. It has the collest locations of the entire series IMHO, but instead of showing more of those, they recycled 90% of the older maps from the first game.
Can't say more without heavily spoiling the first one.
Re: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Team Open To More DLC: "Tell Us What You Want"
Sega having 1000 Sonic characters to choose from but decide to go for marketing characters to be sold as DLC.
This game will never see my purchase.
Re: Review: Persona 3 Reload (Switch 2) - A Great Remake, But Still Not Definitive
The lack of FES is a bonus in my book.
That thing was a 25/30 hours of nothing.
Re: New Dragon Ball Game Project To Be Revealed Early Next Year
In the last few years Dragon Ball made a Card Game, a game where you play as a citizen and need to escape from a DB Villain, a Moba, an Open World RPG, a 2D Fighter, an RPG Fighter and a 3D Fighter.
Comment section: I wish they didn't just made fighting games.
Re: Poll: So, Will You Be Getting Pokémon Legends: Z-A?
I think it's the first game in the series I'll skip. Everything about it looks so terribly cheap and they got rid of the only thing that kept me from abbadoning the series, exploring a new region.
Re: Croc's Switch Remaster Returns This Week With A Free 'Platinum Edition' Update
Just like Ruffy and the Riverside, happy to have waited to buy this. At the first discount I'm in.
Re: Surprise! Dragon Ball FighterZ Is Adding Another Fighter To The Roster In 2026
Yeah, we really needed a 10th Goku in that game.
They're really trying their best to hype up Daima isn'it? I thought it would have been considered a cheap side story and that's it.