@RadioHedgeFund "How much money did Nintendo lose though? ... they're not losing a penny if people are downloading Gamecube or Wii titles."
Nintendo is losing because if they make these games available at some point customers might pass because they have the pirated version folks think it's OK to download. By this logic, Nintendo has to resuscitate and make available every past-gen game on every current-gen console or concede to the pirates.
@Not_Soos Maybe gamers are starting to weigh Amiibo cost against the value of the relatively minor bonuses they seem to bring in most games. Nintendo is adding DLC for almost every major title now, so you're talking an investment of $100 or more if you want the base game, the Amiibo and the DLC. I think I'd rather reroute Amiibo cost to two or three eShop downloads.
And then when they finally arrive you discover they were display models, carefully placed back in the original packaging with an orange "New" sticker added for false affirmation. Never going to be a sucker for this company again.
@Stocksy I respect the NDA in my employment contract. No idea what you mean when you say most employees break their contract daily. Most know better. And I think there's a big difference between a "casual" breach — someone forgetting to delete a sensitive email or maybe telling their spouse about a pending company sale — and someone who intentionally spoils a key vendor's product reveal.
Judging by the comments from former GameStop employees in this thread, GameStop goes over the top to impress upon its employees that leaks will not be tolerated. This wasn't a kid. If he was working there, he was of legal age, responsible for his decisions. He knew the potential ramifications, broke the rule anyway, and now must suffer the consequences he was warned he might face.
I'm sure he can get another job for equal or better pay, so his life hasn't been ruined.
As for Nintendo reacting harshly ... Game after game is being leaked these days. It's about time someone was made an example of. I'm with the big corporation on this one and proud of it. Nintendo loves me!
@Tharsman Less chance for shipping damage, but you have to be careful removing that stupid sticker Best Buy applies. And then, of course, there's the ballpoint-pen impression they create in the carton when they write on said sticker.
@Cashews @Belatarr It was indeed difficult to pass on some of these games. Unlike when the Wii Shop closed, there is no next-generation Virtual Console this time. Nintendo seems to be all-in on leasing us these games, and so today's eShop closure means many games could indeed be gone forever unless you want to emulate. And retro game prices have gone through the roof since the Wii Shop closed, so there is no practical physical alternative for a lot of these games.
@BulkSlash I can say the same thing: I've played all the events to achieve a complete collection of themes, but there are merely a few I ever use. For most, I find the backdrops too hazy, busy or light, to the point at which I have difficulty seeing the gaps in my stack or appreciating the ghost image of the falling block.
@antisumo Not sure about that in the remake. In the GameCube original you could not play as your child. In the Special Edition, for the PS2 — and still available for cheap on the PlayStation Store — you can play on as the child.
@abe_hikura Yeah, a little too much editorialization for my taste. Not clear as to whether they wanted a more literal translation of the original Japanese name or if there was a licensing issue with Natsume.
This game is unlike all others in the BokuMono series in that the focus is more on raising your child than tending to your farm. Yes, the majority of your time will be spent farming and ranching, but the game is about watching your child grow from toddler to adult, upon which he or she selects a career based on your parenting choices. In the meantime, you and your spouse mature as a couple.
If you don't like the marriage and child-rearing element, perhaps a different game in this series is for you. You're not forced to marry in other games and can instead be a single farmer for life.
When I first played this game many years ago, I was a little put off by its deemphasis of farming, particularly through the shortened season calendars, as I had played other titles in the series. This one isn't my favorite, but I'd say it has the best story of any of the games — a truly heartwarming one worthy of the time investment — and is a must-experience for true fans of the series. That said, I'd probably play the original again before the remake if I have time. Not a fan of what Marvelous does anymore.
@CharlieGirl Amen! Like a snake oil salesman coming back to town with something "better" to replace the last ineffective product. Don't start talking about expansion packs until you've cleaned up the mess you've created.
How have three months passed without an optimization update for this game? Or at least an announced target date for when that would be? I'd like to play this, but I refuse to pay for a game that was knowingly released in a broken state.
My GBA SP (silver too) has been getting a lot of use of late. Bought mine 18 years ago for a plane trip. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2004 the main source. And gotta love Harvest Moon Friends of Mineral Town in the picture.
He really put this on the level of the Kennedy assassination? Somehow I don't think a generation of people will remember where they were and what they were doing when Billy Mitchell's Donkey Kong record was assassinated.
Puzzle Quest: The Legend Returns, on the Switch. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2004 on the GBA. And about 30 minutes completing the monthly challenge for Mario Golf Super Rush on the Switch.
@Bratwurst35 I would rather have the company experiment and produce new designs that occasionally fail rather than to tweak the same controller design generation after generation. One of the best things about playing retro consoles and retro games is the retro controller, in my opinion. But everyone thinks differently, of course.
@Bunkerneath A year or so from now, when sales sag, a physical version will be announced, to entice those of us who bite on the digital to double up. It's the fun new trend in the business!
Mario games still feel like Mario games with Miyamoto having only a supervisory role, so there's no reason Smash can't go on with Sakurai moving into something of an executive director role in which he cedes the heavy lifting to others.
Of course there's a pre-order bonus. Marvelous has to collect that money before people realize how little effort was put into the game. Pioneers of Olive Town ... prove me wrong.
This was once my favorite series, now it's a sham. The Harvest Moon games are cheaply designed knockoffs by people who simply aren't up to 2022 game-making standards. And the Story of Seasons games are now being outsourced to a third-party developer with weak credentials and zero connection to the teams that produced the renowned classics in this series. I'm sorry to say that Bokujou Monogatari is dead, my friends.
This kind of rings hollow to me. Nintendo obviously had been aware of the game's performance issues and still let it go to market, likely in the interest of preserving all that pre-order money and all those launch-week sales. That the company has a history of delaying games (e.g., Prime 4, Advance Wars) when circumstances warrant doing so makes the hasty release here even more curious. This is like cutting ahead of someone on line and then apologizing after you've been served. Why not just do the right thing from the beginning?
And even if something is done to patch the performance issues, this still lands as another recent instance of Nintendo charging for something then delivering the full-purchase-price experience later.
@KayFiOS And they load up the games with cosmetic bonuses for early adopters, to incentivize us to purchase these games before they've been fully developed. It's a sneaky tactic.
@KayFiOS Ha ha. I bought Wii Sports Club. Double-dipped for the physical too. I really enjoyed the online component of that game ... when there were actually people around to play. I just can't wrap my arms around the Switch version though. Seems like a half-baked effort, and I don't normally say that about first-party Nintendo titles.
Couldn't even be bothered to design a new golf course. I guess it's good news for the five or 10 people who've been waiting 15 years to play the original course in HD.
Kate said it best with the term "sanitized." Marvelous is trying to take every edge off of these games — including any aspect of difficulty or any feature requiring a little patience — to make the games more appealing to younger players who want an easy, vanilla experience. I was excited for this remake at first but now seem more inclined to simply replay the original.
These games consistently sell, sell, sell and yet all I hear from the Pokemon community is anger and complaints. A whole lot of people are complaining but sending a contradictory message by buying the game. How are Game Freak and Nintendo going to be incentivized to change things?
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Re: Nintendo Wins Court Dispute Against Pirated Game Hosting Site
@RadioHedgeFund "How much money did Nintendo lose though? ... they're not losing a penny if people are downloading Gamecube or Wii titles."
Nintendo is losing because if they make these games available at some point customers might pass because they have the pirated version folks think it's OK to download. By this logic, Nintendo has to resuscitate and make available every past-gen game on every current-gen console or concede to the pirates.
Re: Deals: Incredibly, These Zelda And Metroid amiibo Are Down To Just $5 Right Now
@Not_Soos Maybe gamers are starting to weigh Amiibo cost against the value of the relatively minor bonuses they seem to bring in most games. Nintendo is adding DLC for almost every major title now, so you're talking an investment of $100 or more if you want the base game, the Amiibo and the DLC. I think I'd rather reroute Amiibo cost to two or three eShop downloads.
Re: Deals: Incredibly, These Zelda And Metroid amiibo Are Down To Just $5 Right Now
And then when they finally arrive you discover they were display models, carefully placed back in the original packaging with an orange "New" sticker added for false affirmation. Never going to be a sucker for this company again.
Re: GameStop Fires Employee For Leaking Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Switch
@Stocksy I respect the NDA in my employment contract. No idea what you mean when you say most employees break their contract daily. Most know better. And I think there's a big difference between a "casual" breach — someone forgetting to delete a sensitive email or maybe telling their spouse about a pending company sale — and someone who intentionally spoils a key vendor's product reveal.
Re: GameStop Fires Employee For Leaking Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Switch
Judging by the comments from former GameStop employees in this thread, GameStop goes over the top to impress upon its employees that leaks will not be tolerated. This wasn't a kid. If he was working there, he was of legal age, responsible for his decisions. He knew the potential ramifications, broke the rule anyway, and now must suffer the consequences he was warned he might face.
I'm sure he can get another job for equal or better pay, so his life hasn't been ruined.
As for Nintendo reacting harshly ... Game after game is being leaked these days. It's about time someone was made an example of. I'm with the big corporation on this one and proud of it. Nintendo loves me!
Re: Random: Elderly Couple Thrashes The Competition In Wii Bowling Tournament
One of the most trancendent video games of all time.
Re: Soapbox: Can We Stop Pretending Switch Can't Run Call Of Duty?
@Cashews I've thought the same thing. Microsoft is willing to cut Nintendo in if it means gaining ground on Sony.
Re: Video: Is 3DS StreetPass Dead?
This video has the feel of a "How to with John Wilson."
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (April 1st)
The first Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle. It had been in my backlog for years. Oh my gosh, what a fun game!
Re: Nintendo Reveals Official Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Switch OLED
@Tharsman Less chance for shipping damage, but you have to be careful removing that stupid sticker Best Buy applies. And then, of course, there's the ballpoint-pen impression they create in the carton when they write on said sticker.
Re: Nintendo Reveals Official Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Switch OLED
Just pre-ordered mine on BestBuy.
Re: When Does The 3DS And Wii U eShop Close? Nintendo eShop Closure Guide
@Cashews @Belatarr It was indeed difficult to pass on some of these games. Unlike when the Wii Shop closed, there is no next-generation Virtual Console this time. Nintendo seems to be all-in on leasing us these games, and so today's eShop closure means many games could indeed be gone forever unless you want to emulate. And retro game prices have gone through the roof since the Wii Shop closed, so there is no practical physical alternative for a lot of these games.
Re: Reminder: Unlock A Special Fire Emblem Engage Theme In Tetris 99 This Weekend
@BulkSlash I can say the same thing: I've played all the events to achieve a complete collection of themes, but there are merely a few I ever use. For most, I find the backdrops too hazy, busy or light, to the point at which I have difficulty seeing the gaps in my stack or appreciating the ghost image of the falling block.
Re: Reminder: Unlock A Special Fire Emblem Engage Theme In Tetris 99 This Weekend
Another playing-field backdrop that makes it difficult to see the gaps in the stack.
Re: Let's Get Seasonal With Story Of Seasons: A Wonderful Life's Latest Trailer
@Anti-Matter Yes, thank you for correcting me!
Re: Let's Get Seasonal With Story Of Seasons: A Wonderful Life's Latest Trailer
@antisumo Not sure about that in the remake. In the GameCube original you could not play as your child. In the Special Edition, for the PS2 — and still available for cheap on the PlayStation Store — you can play on as the child.
Re: Let's Get Seasonal With Story Of Seasons: A Wonderful Life's Latest Trailer
@abe_hikura Yeah, a little too much editorialization for my taste. Not clear as to whether they wanted a more literal translation of the original Japanese name or if there was a licensing issue with Natsume.
Re: Let's Get Seasonal With Story Of Seasons: A Wonderful Life's Latest Trailer
For those wondering about marriage ...
This game is unlike all others in the BokuMono series in that the focus is more on raising your child than tending to your farm. Yes, the majority of your time will be spent farming and ranching, but the game is about watching your child grow from toddler to adult, upon which he or she selects a career based on your parenting choices. In the meantime, you and your spouse mature as a couple.
If you don't like the marriage and child-rearing element, perhaps a different game in this series is for you. You're not forced to marry in other games and can instead be a single farmer for life.
When I first played this game many years ago, I was a little put off by its deemphasis of farming, particularly through the shortened season calendars, as I had played other titles in the series. This one isn't my favorite, but I'd say it has the best story of any of the games — a truly heartwarming one worthy of the time investment — and is a must-experience for true fans of the series. That said, I'd probably play the original again before the remake if I have time. Not a fan of what Marvelous does anymore.
Re: Pokémon Scarlet & Violet Version 1.2.0 Bug Supposedly Corrupting Save Files
I've always wondered what a dumpster fire looked like.
Re: Thunderful Games' 3DS And Wii U eShop Sale Is Now Live
I have the SteamWorld games on the Wii U and Switch, but they're too cheap to pass up as a triple-dip!
Re: Pokémon Scarlet & Violet DLC, The Hidden Treasure Of Area Zero, Coming Later This Year
@CharlieGirl Amen! Like a snake oil salesman coming back to town with something "better" to replace the last ineffective product. Don't start talking about expansion packs until you've cleaned up the mess you've created.
Re: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom amiibo Goes Live On Amazon UK, Pre-Order Now
Converting to U.S. dollars, that's half the price of the game! Maybe if it came with the DLC.
Re: Pokémon Scarlet & Violet Version 1.2.0 Launching "Late February", Here Are The Full Patch Notes
How have three months passed without an optimization update for this game? Or at least an announced target date for when that would be? I'd like to play this, but I refuse to pay for a game that was knowingly released in a broken state.
Re: Soapbox: Switch Is Great, But The GBA SP Was The Pinnacle Of Public Transport Gaming
My GBA SP (silver too) has been getting a lot of use of late. Bought mine 18 years ago for a plane trip. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2004 the main source. And gotta love Harvest Moon Friends of Mineral Town in the picture.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Host Kit Ellis Says We May Find Out Why Nintendo's Skipping E3 "Sooner Rather Than Later"
Kit Ellis: Please go away now.
Re: Billy Mitchell Photos Emerge Showing Non-Original Donkey Kong Hardware Apparently Used For Disputed Scores
@Zulzar Don't scoff: When Larry David tripped Shaq at the Forum, the entire world turned its back on him.
Re: Billy Mitchell Photos Emerge Showing Non-Original Donkey Kong Hardware Apparently Used For Disputed Scores
He really put this on the level of the Kennedy assassination? Somehow I don't think a generation of people will remember where they were and what they were doing when Billy Mitchell's Donkey Kong record was assassinated.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (January 28th)
Puzzle Quest: The Legend Returns, on the Switch. Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2004 on the GBA. And about 30 minutes completing the monthly challenge for Mario Golf Super Rush on the Switch.
Re: Story Of Seasons: A Wonderful Life Remake Is Coming To Switch This June
Gorgeous!!!!! Dylanesque without the irreverence, if I might add.
Re: Review: BlueRetro N64 Adapter - This Plug & Play Bluetooth Dongle Is The Perfect Match For Your NSO Pad
@Bratwurst35 I would rather have the company experiment and produce new designs that occasionally fail rather than to tweak the same controller design generation after generation. One of the best things about playing retro consoles and retro games is the retro controller, in my opinion. But everyone thinks differently, of course.
Re: Random: US Customs Mauls 'WATA Certified' Copy Of Pokémon Yellow
Almost a great idea for smuggling drugs. Seriously though, too bad for the person who bought it. Hopefully, it was insured.
Re: It's Official, PowerWash Simulator Scrubs Up On Switch This Month
I need to power wash my own house. Can't justify sitting on my bottom washing virtual houses!
Re: Pokémon Scarlet & Violet Is The Best-Selling Game In Japan In 2022
I didn't even know the 3DS could still be purchased at retail anywhere.
Re: Classic Taito Games Get Enhanced Re-Releases On Switch In February
@Bunkerneath A year or so from now, when sales sag, a physical version will be announced, to entice those of us who bite on the digital to double up. It's the fun new trend in the business!
Re: Video: We Hereby Declare That 2023 Will Be The Year Of 3DS StreetPass
@MS7000 I was sooooo close when the pandemic hit. I fear this will be a lifetime near-miss! =>)
Re: Nintendo Download: 29th December (North America)
Crypto Mining Simulator looks fun, but I'll wait for the Sam Bankman-Fried's Fury DLC.
Re: Smash Bros. Creator Masahiro Sakurai Supposedly Confirms He's "Semi-Retired"
Mario games still feel like Mario games with Miyamoto having only a supervisory role, so there's no reason Smash can't go on with Sakurai moving into something of an executive director role in which he cedes the heavy lifting to others.
Re: Nintendo Minute Videos Are Being Set To Private On Nintendo's YouTube Channel
" ... but it’s going to be OK."
Yep, it is going to be OK. Sheesh, get over yourselves.
Re: Epic Games To Pay $540 Million Over Allegations Of Privacy Violations And Unwanted Charges
I don't play Fortnite. Does anyone have a specific example of what was going on? Just curious.
Re: Story Of Seasons: A Wonderful Life Will Have Physical Edition, Goat Plushie Premium Edition
Of course there's a pre-order bonus. Marvelous has to collect that money before people realize how little effort was put into the game. Pioneers of Olive Town ... prove me wrong.
Re: Harvest Moon: The Winds Of Anthos Is The Next Game In The Farm Sim Spin-Off Series
This was once my favorite series, now it's a sham. The Harvest Moon games are cheaply designed knockoffs by people who simply aren't up to 2022 game-making standards. And the Story of Seasons games are now being outsourced to a third-party developer with weak credentials and zero connection to the teams that produced the renowned classics in this series. I'm sorry to say that Bokujou Monogatari is dead, my friends.
Re: Class-Action Lawsuit Claims Epic Games Knowingly Made Fortnite "Very, Very Addictive"
" ... one of whom has reportedly racked up 7,700 hours in the game over the past two years"
That's roughly an average of 10 hours a day every single day. That kid's parents are the ones who should be in legal trouble!
Re: Pokémon Scarlet & Violet Version 1.1.0 Announced, Nintendo Apologises For Performance Issues & Bugs
This kind of rings hollow to me. Nintendo obviously had been aware of the game's performance issues and still let it go to market, likely in the interest of preserving all that pre-order money and all those launch-week sales. That the company has a history of delaying games (e.g., Prime 4, Advance Wars) when circumstances warrant doing so makes the hasty release here even more curious. This is like cutting ahead of someone on line and then apologizing after you've been served. Why not just do the right thing from the beginning?
And even if something is done to patch the performance issues, this still lands as another recent instance of Nintendo charging for something then delivering the full-purchase-price experience later.
Re: 'The Garden Path' Is A Cosy Real-Time Gardening Game Designed For Short Sessions
What exactly is that frog showing us at 0:47?
Re: Nintendo Switch Sports Golf Update Now Live, Here's What's Included
@KayFiOS And they load up the games with cosmetic bonuses for early adopters, to incentivize us to purchase these games before they've been fully developed. It's a sneaky tactic.
Re: Nintendo Switch Sports Golf Update Now Live, Here's What's Included
@KayFiOS Ha ha. I bought Wii Sports Club. Double-dipped for the physical too. I really enjoyed the online component of that game ... when there were actually people around to play. I just can't wrap my arms around the Switch version though. Seems like a half-baked effort, and I don't normally say that about first-party Nintendo titles.
Re: Nintendo Switch Sports Golf Update Now Live, Here's What's Included
Couldn't even be bothered to design a new golf course. I guess it's good news for the five or 10 people who've been waiting 15 years to play the original course in HD.
Re: Soapbox: The Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life Remake Doesn't Look Weird Enough Yet
Kate said it best with the term "sanitized." Marvelous is trying to take every edge off of these games — including any aspect of difficulty or any feature requiring a little patience — to make the games more appealing to younger players who want an easy, vanilla experience. I was excited for this remake at first but now seem more inclined to simply replay the original.
Re: Mini Review: Just Dance 2023 Edition - Some Welcome Changes To The Old Routine
I'm waiting for the Wii port. =>)
Re: Pokémon Scarlet & Violet Surpass 10 Million Sales In First Three Days, Setting New Nintendo Record
These games consistently sell, sell, sell and yet all I hear from the Pokemon community is anger and complaints. A whole lot of people are complaining but sending a contradictory message by buying the game. How are Game Freak and Nintendo going to be incentivized to change things?