Pokémon Scarlet & Violet Version 1.2.0 Bug Supposedly Corrupting Save Files

And I though it couldn't get any worse. Guess who was wrong!

That's pretty awful. Not as awful as buying and playing this trash, but still pretty awful.

This is a $60 game that The Pokémon Company has the AUDACITY to ask an extra $30 for.

This is a release from the most profitable media franchise in the world.

Yet another reason to avoid Pokemon GO entirely. What a trash game. I wish it would GO away already. It has done enough damage to the franchise as it is.

Pokemon

You never fail to disappoint. At least you're consistent.

@CharlieGirl Plus they charge for HOME, how embarassing lol.

Imagine paying the exorbitant asking price for the upcoming DLC upfront, whose first wave isn't even due for another 7 months or so (I'll said it again, the absolute freaking nerve for such a broken game!), only for said broken game to then thank you by destroying your save data (which isn't preserved by the cloud backup feature of your PAID online subscription either).

Reward anti-consumer practices, win anti-consumer prizes. I'm so sick to death of people making excuses for massive corporations. You can argue that Sword/Shield were underwhelming all you like, but at least they weren't broken. Hell, I played it again the other night and the smooth performance and visuals felt, dare I say, refreshing off the back of the often ugly and janky trainwreck that is Scarlet/Violet. I would have been perfectly happy to wait another console generation for TPCi to get their act together if it would have made it less burdensome on them to explore the open world concept (which paled in comparison to the less "open" Legends Arceus before it, which is still a lot of fun to play after nearly 300 hours, while I got bored/frustrated with Scarlet/Violet after a week).

I hope Nintendo/TPCi suffer severe backlash for this and reconsider how they approach the Pokémon IP moving forward because this is inexcusably pathetic.

Yikes, this game is pretty messy right now. Glad I waited before connecting to Pokémon Go. I wasn't even planning on buying DLC until they fix the game enough to satisfy me. So happy I decided to wait for a better end product. 🙃

Remember people, this game is 60 bucks plus DLC, the audacity to ask people to pay for dlc when they can’t even fix their game first, my goodness, gamefreak is something else.

Pokemon is such an embarrassment of a franchise now. I'm really glad I didn't waste time buying the expansion for this mess game.

@Eagly I feel bad for the designers, they have a lot of interesting character designs and story’s, all that, being wasted on this franchise that couldn’t care less.

Perhaps the funniest thing about all of this is that people were naïvely expecting the three-month-awaited update to improve performance, but instead we got more game-breaking bugs and paid DLC that costs MORE than what I paid for physical Pokémon games during the DS era (including HeartGold/SoulSilver, which also included a whole freaking accessory in the box at no extra cost).

HeartGold/SoulSilver/Black/White, and likely also Black 2/White 2 cost me only AU$50 each back in the day. I seem to recall paying that much for X/Y as well.

Scarlet/Violet DLC? AU$52.50. And you have nothing tangible to show for it (and not a quality game for it either). Yes, there's inflation to consider, but it's still an absurd asking price for an expansion (and Nintendo/TPCi, infuriatingly, don't offer any sort of discount for owners of both Scarlet/Violet).

@pneumaticgnosis it's less to do with Pokémon Go (which Niantic has more involvement with than The Pokémon Company), and more to do with The Pokémon Company pushing Game Freak to rush the game out in an unfinished state.

@CharlieGirl *$35

@Eagly That is legit the only reason I still play these games, I find that part of the game fun, legit if it had none of that, oh my god I would have never picked up a Pokémon game in my life.

Yikes...
Guess I will keep play offline to stay away from file corruption.

@Snatcher
Guess you can try Nexomon or Yokai Watch games for alternative choices.

Okay, excuse me but I have to rant.

I just can't believe how much Game Freak's latest cheap, ugly, tragically rushed dumpster fire still sells. Not only that, but they have the audacity to ask for more money for DLC when the main game can still barely pass for an alpha test. I was a huge fan up until a few years ago and liked Legends Arceus well enough but these were the last straw. Didn't buy them nor will I ever. This developer is either severely understaffed or just hideously mismanaged. They could make a good game, but have never put in the proper time or resources to do so, treating their literal crown jewel IP like absolute garbage in the process. Just imagine what Pokémon could be if given the talent, time and resources it so obviously deserves. It was almost achieved with Arceus. In either case, The Pokémon Company is the main disgrace to humanity here.

This is literally the biggest franchise on the planet and the games they put out are always insanely rushed to tie in with all the merch and anime stuff, look like absolute trash, have zero budget and polish put into them and are being held together with nostalgia- branded duct tape. There is literally zero excuses left anymore and I personally think most others would agree that we all deserve something even slightly better than this disgrace at the very least.

Look at literally any other RPG on the market, even the countless amount on Switch, especially from Nintendo's own studios, all of which may only sell a fraction of these games. The difference in just bare minimum quality isn't just a minor bump, it's a literal mountain.

Anyway, thanks for reading my essay lol

@CharlieGirl I mostly agree with this. TPC needs to pump the breaks on how fast they dish out merchandise and TCG. Instead of releasing new stuff every 3 months, they need to start stretching it to every 6 months and give the next generation of games more time to be fully developed so there isn't another SV broken case. That being said, GameFreak needs to either stop bringing in developers that just graduated from college and keep the devs that worked on previous games, or give Pokemon to somebody else to develop the games. These games are inexcusable and Nintendo should be furious that this piece of crap that sells them consoles are in this state.

How is it that Game Freak actually gets pushed by Nintendo to release a patch for their stupid game that feels like Sonic Frontiers' Beta version with no enemies and random textures thrown together, and when they do, it wrecks the game EVEN MORE!? How is that humanly possible!

@Eagly I second the Three Houses recommendation. One of the best video games I have ever played, period. I hadn't even touched the franchise once before that game! And while I also haven't played Xenoblade, those games look stunning too. Try both franchises for a proper TRPG/JRPG experience!

@Eagly I love that SV is finally free roaming, that I can see Pokemon fall asleep or eat an apple in real time. What I don't love is the headache after playing for a couple hours because the sky/distance keeps having a flickering fit and if someone ends up having a seizure due to it, they'll just point to the warning that's on every video game to prevent liability.

The characters, story, jump to open-world, and Pokemon designs in this gen were outstanding. Too bad the games themselves are garbage. I enjoy playing this game and will likely buy the dlc (yes, sorry haters) but I really wish TPC would give game freak more than 2 seconds to develop their games to their full potential rather than pumping out more money. My workaround to the bug is not saving after I use Pokemon Go transfer, and so far my file is safe, hope this helps someone, really sorry to the people who lost everything

@Eagly My horizons was small, the only jrpg I really ever played before xenoblade was final fantasy 15 and Pokémon, xenoblade and dragon quest has showed me that there are better experiences to be had, Pokémon sword was barely defendable in the first place, how do I defend this? I love Pokémon, and I hate seeing what gamefreak is doing to it. I haven’t really touched three houses in a bit, so I wanted to ask, got any beginners tips? Before I play it again, I didn’t get far at all.

@Anti-Matter And we all know which one has actually care put into it, one number, 5.

@pneumaticgnosis what's your problem with Pokemon Go? You seem really... fired up about it?

Most competent modern Gamefreak programming

Cyberpunk 2077 >>> Pokemon Scarlet/Violet

Cyberpunk is a GREAT game today. The game has been fixed and improved and it looks amazing. Already Pokemon WORSE!

I don't buy Pokemon games. So I'm a happier person today.

This game truly keeps on giving huh?

And everyone who was foolish enough to buy a copy of this game will buy the next garbage pokemon game they put out.
At this point blame yourselves for continuing to give them money.

@Eagly That’s what so sad, Pokémon is, just that bad, like how can I go to whats completely normal for rpg standards, and feel like I just ascended and found Jrpg haven, like that tells you something, like I’m really baffled what I had been missing out on, I thought all turn based jrpgs were similar just with better stories. How wrong I was lmao.

Yeah I will ask you when I get to your reply.

What a dumpster fire, they need to release a hotfix, fast!

@Rykdrew That is actually very true. Cyberpunk is an example of a game that was rushed to market that eventually became the great game it was hyped up to be. Pokemon S&V is an example of a game that was rushed to market that is probably always going to feel like a rushed game.

I went back to watch Matt Mcmuscle's video on Cyberpunk 2077 recently, and one thing that stuck out to me was that they had less time to make it than they did to make Witcher 3 after 2, despite Cyberpunk being so much different from their previous games.

I get similar feelings to Game Freak wanting to make a big open world Pokemon game in the same time frame as they always do, while another team is busy with Legends Arceus. That's madness to me, even with more people, how do you make this game in the same time frame you made like...gen 3 on the Game Boy Advance?

This was a very stupid idea. And I'm also still offended at the suggestion that the merch and anime are to blame, as if they couldn't foresee this. Like even if marketing demands their new game to market in 3 years, you could've just put Arceus in that slot instead of 2 months after the DP remakes for no reason. This was clearly avoidable.

Glad I didn’t continue playing after completing my dex. What’s the point anyway in roaming the open world, if there is nothing else but more pokemon..

While 1 is too many, it looks like this has happened to 12 people so far. Can y'all at least put your hate and rage in perspective? Let's say that 12 is grossly underreported for whatever reason and the actual number is 1200. That's 1200 out of 20 MILLION.

What is the save corruption rate on a well made game when a new patch comes out? Not many things in life are perfect (ie 0%) and this article doesn't provide that context, so how am I supposed to know how egregious 12~1200 is or is not?

I know this is the internet and nuance is not exactly the forte here, but ... some of y'all are more embarrassing than these glitches imo. Go buy a real life punching bag if you need an outlet for anger that badly.

And here I was waiting for the proformance to be fixed before I bought the game. The wait continues...

@Eagly DQXI is the classic jrpg perfected.

Game of the year.

Oh dear. They REALLY should start delaying their games before more and more people quit.

The sheer incompetence of gf never stops to amaze me

Bravo, Game Freak!

It's sad really, this is all because it was so terribly rushed.

I feel bad for the programmers and designers, their game (And by extension, they themselves) are getting ragged on because management didn't give them the time to do things right in the first place (No programmer starts a project thinking "Ok, let's make this suck!"), all for a quick buck and new pokemon to sell cards and stuff of...

@pneumaticgnosis LMAO! Have you actually bothered to read it?

This has nothing to do with Pokemon GO! That game is actually better coded than the trash they call Pokemon Scarlet/Violet.

We already had Pokemon GO integration with other games like Sword&Shield and that worked perfectly fine!

Right now though, I am getting the last laugh! I have been ridiculed for years for liking and enjoying the Sword&Shield games. But these games are miles ahead of Scarlet/Violet.
Much better graphics (especially docked the difference is shocking!), better gameplay, not a riddled bug & glitch fest that constantly gives me headaches, etc.

After trying to suffer myself through Pokemon Violet and giving up, I went back and did another reroll in Pokemon Shield ( 4th time by now ) and just enjoy it so much more. It's just such a great game, especially with the 2 added DLC's.

Gamefreak and Nintendo should be ashamed for allowing Scarlet/Violet to be released in the state they are in!

@Chocobo_Shepherd The point is, that this is yet another issue on a huge pile of other issues plaguing these games!

Remember, these games released back in November and it's now March!
Nintendo made a statement with a promise to address the performance issues plaguing these games and 4 months later we only got 2 small patches that mostly fixed exploits and some small glitches and in return introduced more bugs.

4 months in and nothing has been done about the performance yet!
If Nintendo was actually honest and intent on really fixing these performance problems, they could have send over some of their most experienced devs to Gamefreak and help them fix this mess!

Remember this. Zelda: Breath of the Wild has a much bigger Gameworld than Scarlet/Violet, is capable of loading way more assets and NPC's on the screen, with longer draw distance and still looks and runs better in both handheld and docked. This game was launched over 7 years ago!
In comparison, the Scarlet/Violet gameworld looks like a barren and disjointed mess, with tiny asset drawing distance and pokemon suddenly popping in view 10 meters in front of you and it still runs like utter poo! /facepalm

Aaah the icing on the cake! 🙄 Just when we thought it couldn't get any worse 🤣

Didn't this happen in X and Y? Not trying to defend them, it's horrible they've let this happen, but just saying.

Heres a bug fix that creates an even worse bug that corrupts your save file, YEY!

Wow! What a sh*t show.

Had the game since annual gift day and still haven't started yet. Was thinking of waiting until the dlc was out but this kind of put me off bothering all together.

@Luigi05 That was in one location (So easily avoided), and it was fixed in weeks, with SV we're 4 months in, there's still performance issues, and the patches add more (And worse) problems than they fix.

SV should have gotten more time for optimizing, that would have prevented this whole mess outright, no need to rush out buggy patches if the game functions properly out of the box.

Pathetic and greedy. That's unfortunately all the Pokemon company is these days. I think this might unfortunately be the straw.

Yeah, I'll go back to playing Crystal on my Retroflag GPI2. I wonder how long it's going to take them to fix their game, if at all.

Seeing these comments does make me kind of sad, and also, this whole situation makes me even sadder. And EXTREMELY annoyed that Game Freak won't allow people to use save their data to the cloud - other (better) Switch JRPGs let you do so, don't see why Pokemon should be any different.

Anyways this is the most I've enjoyed a Pokemon game since BW2 over 10 years ago, it's rough around the edges but there is a competently made (and even engaging) RPG underneath all of the visual roughness and performance-related issues. I was hoping the 1.2.0 patch would fix most of those minor glitches, but it doesn't seem like it. The fact that they STILL have game-breaking glitches in these major releases truly disappoints me, Game Freak should be working to resolve this NOW. Failing that, just let us save our data to the cloud, because I feel really uneasy having my save data tied to the console and not the cartridge anymore. That concerns me less for other games where I can back them up on the cloud too.

65-ish hours in I have only had the game crash once, but in my opinion, that is one crash too many. I would not have complained if they spent an extra year developing this game to release it this winter instead, it certainly would have benefitted from extra refinement (rather than sticking paid DLC onto an already shaky foundation).

But the DLC button works perfectly.

Nintendo needs a wake up call, like during Wii U sales situation so they will do their best to save their company.

Frankly this is probably the only way to make it a good game: erase it completely.

@Anti-Matter It's not Nintendo, it's Game Freak and TPCi. If anything Nintendo needs to intervene, I've never heard of ANY first-party Nintendo games on Switch having game-breaking issues like this. I'm honestly surprised Nintendo aren't staging an intervention for Game Freak right now because they just can't keep acting like they're an indie company.

It's not just Pokemon they're messing up, even that Little Town Hero game was received very badly. It sounds like Game Freak are RIDICULOUSLY under-resourced and under-funded.

@KingOhger
Interesting to hear about Little Town Hero reception that also made by Gamefreak on PS4.
I really wish the next Pokemon games handled by Bandai Namco as I saw the quality from Pokken and New Pokemon Snap.
Gamefreak can be retired from any Pokemon projects and given by assignment to do smaller projects.

…. and I will continue to wait to buy it.

@Eagly I mean yes some people want JRPGs and there so many options like Chained Echoes or Trails of Cold Steel and Genshin Impact. And some people want creature collector games and there are games like Tem Tem or Ooblets. There is so much gamer choice right now it’s awesome!

@Vil It’s not the developers at fault. GameFreak is held back by The Pokemon Company, which only cares about one thing: yearly designs to use for merchandise sales. GameFreak is already split into two teams because of the demands from the higher ups to constantly be working. They’re probably fatigued. Combine that with the fact that even back in the Gold and Silver days they were about as skilled as an indie developer (Iwata had to help them learn how to compress better so that they could include Kanto) and the transition to 3D AND HD… you have a whole mess of corporate b.s.

The sad part is that everyone ignored who is really responsible and everyone is heaping blame on the very people who are obligated to work under these crappy conditions.

I also think the lackluster reception to Pokemon Black and White demoralized them, as they were the games they went all out on, only for the internet to respond in an overly toxic and irrational way.

@LeJuiceCup The Lets GO games were actually really good and of high quality and introduced Pokemon appearing in view in the wild for the first time.
They were fantastic recreations of the Classic games.

Pokemon Sword&Shield were also fantastic. The only major critique really was the reduction in amount of Pokemon (personally I had no issues with it), but the excellent DLC's make more than up for it.
These are now one of the best Pokemon games on the Switch! They look great, peform great and great gameplay.

Pokemon Legend: Arceus was also a unique and decent game in it's own right. I got quickly bored with it sadly due to the sheer repetitiveness. But to each their own.

Pokemon Scarlet/Violet are honestly the first real mishaps with Gamefreak where they really screwed up and severely underdelivered in quality. The bugs, glitches, headache inducing terrible graphics and horrible performance.
They should have postponed these games to this year and let them cook in dev oven for another year to polish them up and better yet, asked Nintendo for help.

The sad part is, that there is actually a decent game underneath it all. Just let down by time constraints, developer overconfidence/incompetence.
A fully open Gameworld was clearly a step too far for the devs at Gamefreak that pushed their game engine beyond it's capabilities.
It's pretty obvious they had to reduce overall graphics and GFX considerably just to barely make it run.

@AlexanderDaniels Compassion, not vengeance. Otherwise you are no better than them.

There is something called “judgment of charity,” which is good to practice. We do not know their intentions, but we do know that they should be free to form their own opinions and deserve respect because of their inherent human dignity.

Someone having a different opinion than you is no good reason to wish harm upon them. If we look at it from their perspective, they may just enjoy the game. In that case they may wrongly perceive faults with the game as an attack against their joy for it.

Remember, never assume malice as the intent of another. St. Thomas Aquinas would say that no one seeks to achieve an evil end for the sake of it, but rather they wish to attain a perceived good, even if the method to that good is erroneous or the good itself is lesser than a higher good.

@Eagly People want to feel seen and validated. They want to feel a part of something bigger than themselves. I think some people take any criticism of their choices or the things they love as criticism of them and they lash out. That violence is a part of our history, language, and many people’s upbringing. We talk about “people being wrong”, when we mean to say “a particular idea is incorrect”. See the difference?

I deeply wish that we could more easily remove the toxicity from fan sites and comment boards and I would challenge any gaming website to think deeply about the issue. How can your site promote a culture of inclusion and kindness? I think that would be better for everyone. Nintendo games in particular trend to younger audiences and I would be sad to find 8 year olds or 10 year olds being chewed out in comments for what they love.

People are welcome to like Pokemon in whatever state it is in and for whatever reason. And because I choose not to but Pokemon Violet or levy criticism at Nintendo or GameFreak doesn’t mean that choice in any way reflects on your choices. Love what you love.

The most wacky part of this story is the suggestion, by a rep, to use a feature that isn't even available yet 😂

I bought Violet because of peer pressure but I'm not buying the next games. This is abysmal

@LeJuiceCup I know The Pokémon Company is most to blame, I said that ...but if I'm not wrong, doesn't Game Freak own a third of TPC? The three major stakeholders are Game Freak, Creatures and Nintendo. They shouldn't be completely excused in my opinion and with the amount of money they make they should be fully capable of treating the IP with actual respect by using that power they definitely have to make a change. Instead, though, they keep their development team painfully small (and I mean small) compared to every other major developer in the entire industry pretty much and hire very questionable people to rush out what is supposed to be AAA flagship titles.

I'm not for hurting and overworking developers in any way and there is way too much of that in the industry, but Game Freak clearly have the resources to not do this, don't you think?

@Mauzuri I'm happy for you that you're satisfied with the games, they're good games at heart, but they've obviously been rushed out the door to keep in step with the ever-hungry merchandise beast.

And let's be honest here, replacing one set of bugs with an even bigger bug (People put a lot of time into those save-games) is just downright bad.

Glad, I don't use Pokémon Go....

@Vil

yeah, the Pokémon company was born from them in order to help Nintendo and Game Freak with the management of the franchise, however, it is a company with its "own mind", and therefore, its affairs should not interfere with the others 3 for fluency.

Let's say an example, you are an employee and your brother is your boss in the same company, outside you can even enjoy parties, but at job, he is your boss, and you know what that means, something similar with relationships between Pokemon company, Game Freak and Nintendo.

@solarwolf07 I will never understand that game, or its popularity. It's enormously shallow and boring. There's no real strategy involved, no random battles, and raids/gym battles come down to simply swiping your screen as fast as you can. No EV/IV training, no breeding (unless you count finding a random egg), no fun testing out new and unusual builds for your Pokemon. I hate the "Go-style" catching mechanic that has unfortunately bled into console games. I hate the fact that they FORCE you to connect to Go in order to complete certain objectives or catch certain Pokemon in the console games. They took everything fun about Pokemon and condensed it into a crappy mobile cash grab for normies to play while standing at the bus stop or in line at Kroger. I hate it hate it HATE IT!

@Jeronan The fact still stands, no one would be losing their save if they hadn't connected to GO for the stupid Vivillon gimmick . F*** go.

@Chocobo_Shepherd Best post in the thread. The number of people losing saves is statistically insignificant. Yes, it sucks when it's YOU, but let's not lose perspective. Also, GO still sucks and everyone should avoid it.

@pneumaticgnosis Yeah. While it is evident that the games needed a lot more playtesting, I've since found out that the incidences of this happening are statistically incredibly low, and it's also triggered through a very specific action (connecting up to GO) that most people are unlikely to do.

It does not absolve Game Freak or TPCi, but statistically it puts stuff into perspective. I do hope GF drop everything and fix this though - I recall that they were very 'on it' for the Lumiose City glitch in XY, which was also pretty inexcusable too.

I still think Nintendo should be adding in more options for safeguarding saves though, especially since people put a lot of time into these games. I know about the backup saves, but cloud backup should be enabled for these games too. Failing that, I hope Switch Lites will become moddable soon so that I can easily access Checkpoint to back up my save. Don't want to lose these 3 shinies that I've somehow caught lol

@Jeronan As fate would have it, I played Star Wars Jedi Survivor around the same time as ScarVio this year. JS had t-posing character models, textures and landscapes that didn't load in, terrible pop-in, and it crashed a few times. Yet, I never saw even one article about it. The fact of the matter is, Pokemon is one of the biggest kids on the block, and so people love to pile on them when the chance arises.

Try to remember, this is not to say that the games are above criticism, there are a lot of technical issues that ScarVio have which I do not think are reasonable. But they are hardly the only game in that category. And the reactions have simply not been apples to apples.

If you disagree with me, that's totally fine. We're all just sharing our perspectives.

@SakuraHaruka Fair enough.

@Chocobo_Shepherd I can't help but think that there is a tad bit of "piling on" going on here also. No one hates Pokemon more than Pokemon fans.

I don't know, something about this seems suspicious. The issue doesn't seem to be that widespread, and it's possible that the affected cases could be hacked games/saves or the game being run on an emulator or other non-Nintendo hardware, something that the Reddit thread neglects to ask. If that's the case, every outlet reporting on this supposed bug, including NintendoLife, should prepare to issue an apology and a retraction.

@Chocobo_Shepherd WTF? Star Wars Jedi Survivor is still in development. It hasn't officially released yet. It releases on April 28th lol. So how can you even compare these two games.

I actually played the first game two times over (with new game+) and it was a totally amazing experience! No issues, glitches or bugs whatsoever from beginning to end. ( Xbox Series X )
So I am pretty sure if you managed to do some early play/beta test earlier this year, that those issues will be sorted out by April 28th.

Pokemon Scarlet/Violet are actually released games now, we are 4 months in and no promised patch that addresses the performance issues has released yet. Even though Nintendo themselves promised/assured us they were on top of it and give it high priority lol! Right! /Facepalm

Well at least there are cloud saves for this kind of thing……oh wait!

@Eagly The fact that some switch games don't have cloud compatibility, even tho we have to pay for it is a bit ridiculous.

@Eagly Yes, but in this case, it feels dubious. This feels like hearsay with no proof whatsoever. None of the articles about this bothered to gather any sources beyond Reddit.

@Jeronan We have approximately 12 unverified and vague reports, all from Redditors, about this supposed "bug." All are lacking in details beyond "Yeah dude the same thing happened to me" and I have a feeling about half of the people reporting the bug are using modded consoles with boxes full of hacked Pokemon. The OP (the dude that started the whole s***storm) has made about a hundred Reddit posts about it. He literally monitors the thread 24/7 and reports to every single post within minutes. He even created an entirely new Twitter profile to address the story. None of this seems suspect to you?

Let's not forget, back when Sword/Shield were first released, there were reports all over the internet about a bug causing the games to brick Switch consoles. Reddit threads were created on the topic, Tweets were tweeted, YT videos were created. Turned out to be crappy quality SD cards causing the issue, and had nothing to do with the games themselves. If you go back and look, there's even an old Nintendo Life article about it. Subtitle of that article: THE DRAMA NEVER STOPS.

Apparently, no one has learned from that.

@Eagly Sure stop all the hacked moms I got wonder traded lol. It’s stupid.

This does sound really bad. I hope they'll be able to do something to restore the save data.

@Jeronan I meant Fallen Order. I got the names switched. my bad. please rethink your reaction. and if you had a different experience than me, then maybe that just proves the point how inconsistent game bugs can be.

I still get the black void that follows me in area 0 and makes me fall infinitely, I can't shiny hunt like this.

@TheBigBlue okay while i dont really love scarlet and violet, i will give it credit

Tera was actually a well thought-out mechanic

Tera Types can add strategy and mix up battles without breaking the entire meta like Dynamax

I feel like Scarlet and Violet were the alpha versions of a good game

I DO NOT blame Game Freak for the most part. The idea of different paths is great, the Tera mechanic is actually well-thought out and doesnt break the entire meta, not having to take turns for every raid is a great idea, the story is well done, the music is fantastic

It's just the execution is a bland open world with glitches galore and paths that feel half baked (Gym tests are awful, Star Base raids are just "Press the R button when Pokemon appear", and Titan fights are fine I guess but really short and easy) and now on top of that we have overpriced DLC for an unfinished game.

But a lot of that isn't their fault, it's the fault of the Pokemon Company for not giving them time to refine what they had. If they had 6 months to a year to refine this game? I think it could've been a fantastic game! Maybe not on the level of Xenoblade or Persona, but i still think it could've redefined Pokemon.

tl;dr: dont blame Game Freak, it's The Pokemon Company who have insisted on rushing those poor developers, who were all really trying to make something special.

@KingOhger "And EXTREMELY annoyed that Game Freak won't allow people to use save their data to the cloud - other (better) Switch JRPGs let you do so, don't see why Pokemon should be any different."
you can blame white knights and pokemon's competitive scene for this. the whole point of it is to prevent people from cloning pokemon by sending the mons to HOME then reloading the backup. even the built in backup for PLA and SV is made to back-up everything but the pokemon. so, if say some rare pokemon from an event during the gba era was killed off by a save that was corrupted, theres no getting it back... even worse if it was a fully legit shiny mew or shiny colosseum jirachi.
the anti-clone programming in BDSP to prevent clones made by the glitch also brough with it an issue, namely the fact that you can't send a shedija from BDSP to HOME due to it being a clone by default.

I bet a lot of people who are glossing over the problems of this latest Pokemon, or defending it, used the worst words in the world to trash Cyberpunk 2077 when it first came out.

The irony is that Cyberpunk started being patched on day 1! And today is amazing.

This Pokemon, however, will probably never be fixed, because Nintendo, and its partners, don't want to spend more money to fix the broken product you bought. Nintendo is the greediest company on the market. And with many slaves to its marketing, which include, people paid to praise them, defend them and give commercial reviews, instigating impulse buying.

When fans started buying Nintendo stock, the quality dropped and word of mouth grew. It's pure marketing. Pure illusion.

I'm going to play a lot more Steam than Nintendo with my young daughter. I don't want her involved in all this marketing. I don't think this management of expectations in an organized way is healthy for children.

My luck is that my wife plays Steam much more than Nintendo. And our daughter will probably want to play the same games with us.

@pneumaticgnosis Even without this save game corruption bug, the games are still a hot mess due to the terrible performance.

The point is, that this save game corruption bug is just yet another issue on a pile of problems with these games.

It took Nintendo more than two weeks after launch to finally come out and apologize, after massive complaints and refund requests, with a promise they would address the performance problems.
Then it's not unreasonable to expect some results by now almost 4 months after launch!

All they have delivered so far, is two small patches in 4 months that addressed some exploits and bug fixes, but not a single performance improvement and instead only introduced more bugs.

But hey, at least they had the time to start working on the paid DLC on top of a broken game and the Pre-order button ingame for the paid DLC is completely flawless and bugfree!
Shows where their priorities lie at the moment. /facepalm

@pneumaticgnosis ok wow

Well, damn. I'm playing the game because my preorder shipped before reviews came out, and after that I wanted to see for myself just how bad it was. And I'll admit, the game can be fun - I'm getting a decent amount of enjoyment out of doing raids (when playing solo - they are a broken mess as soon as other players come into the picture) and running around catching everything that moves. But from a technical standpoint, the game is a cursed, blazing dumpster-fire of cataclysmic proportions. Glitches everywhere, constant flickering, horrible lighting, and textures that seem straight out of Banjo-Kazooie on the N64. Especially after Arceus, SV really feel like GF took ten steps back.

If anyone reading this wants to play a Pokemon game - don't buy these. Legends Arceus, Sword/Shield and the Let's Go games are all better options. And if you're looking for a good RPG, same as above - skip these, and go for one of the far superior options available on Switch. Dragon Quest XI, Monster Hunter Stories 2, Fire Emblem Three Houses, Fire Emblem Engage, Octopath Traveller 1-2, Bravely Default 2 and the Atelier Ryza and Xenoblade Chronicle trilogies are utter gems when it comes to graphics, performance and gameplay, and don't make you want to bang your head against the wall after playing for longer than one hour at a time.

@pneumaticgnosis
if anything with s/v the issues were underplayed before the game was launched with not many previews mentioning the performance issues and even some people in comments accusing those criticising it as having some kind of bias against the game and/or nintendo alongside the usual comments about the previews being based on an early build and that they would likely be fixed by launch (this is rarely the case close to launch, at least with major issues)

closer to launch impressions made it seem like the technical issues were closer to sword/shield or arceus but it ended up having a lot more issues than those two games and from what i gather the performance problems since launch are still there (not sure about the data leak issue which needed a reset to fix) and there has been very little communication from publishers regarding the issue, i was hoping at least that the pokemon presents would mention them and maybe some kind of roadmap for fixes but instead they advertised new dlc to buy.

i do hope that it at least leads to improvements with the dev cycle in future games and publishers,etc allowing for more dev time or QA but this isnt a wiiu situation and the game still made a lot of money so who knows.

its unfortunate since there was a genuinely great pokemon game under all that.

Here is my solution for TPC.
1. For the sake of Pokemon branding image, PULL all the Scarlet & Violet games from both retail and eshop. The current released product are already broken messed up.
2. Apologize video from TPC CEO, aired on YouTube and TPC CEO should give the replacement with fixed version to customers for Free.
3. Cancel all the DLC idea. Release the Final version with DLC on it , performance improvements and already fixed the glitches and bugs.

@CharlieGirl Yep, that just about sums up my thoughts too.

I've always wondered what a dumpster fire looked like.

This game is an unmitigated disaster. How anyone can support this crap is beyond me.

@mikegamer
Pokémon fans will be Pokémon fans. They don't have as high of a standard as mainstream Nintendo.

For as long as people keep eating up Pokémon merchandise, the games will continue to stagger in quality, especially for Nintendo standards. When you hear Nintendo apologizing and not TPC, it means this is a real problem.

One of my kids is into Pokemon, we have at the household at least one game per realese, i did ask him if he has encounter any glitches, bugs, or just weird sh@&t like that, hes answer was no, those games are fun, i left his room scratching my head

@EriXz - I’d have to agree. I can’t recall any of the freaky glitches I’ve seen elsewhere in my play through. I close out my game after each session so maybe that’s helping.

What bugs me is the raids. I actually think they got worse with the patches. I don’t know if it’s always done this but my health bar disappears regularly during a raid which is a pain when you’re doing 7 star and needing to mange your health effectively.

Also it’s annoying that there is a solution of Pokemon Home to protect our valuable mons we don’t want to loose from something like a corrupt save which is still being held back / updated to work with the new game

@ModdedInkling I should've refunded the game when I had the chance. It's a POS.

Weird now that it seems the save data glitch isn't directly connected to the GO feature.

Osh, TPC can't do anything right xD

Guess I will wait for update before firing up the game. I did buy the season DLC though and installed them.

@Anti-Matter They should refund those that already purchased both DLC as well.

"While there's an update on the way"
You mean END OF APRIL patch?
You call it "on the way"? C2077 were patched weekly.
Praise the Allah Nintendo refunded me this mess.

I will never introduce the Pokemon franchise to my children. It's pure marketing. Bad game. I will never spend my money on this.

@Rykdrew And Minecraft, Robolex, and RuneQuest isn't doing the same marketing?? Also there is FortNite-so not sure what is going here but it's not a GameFreak issue.

It’s really a shame that a game with such a great and heartwarming story has so many bugs and glitches that make this game bad to play. Though, does this glitch occur on physical copies/cartridges? I’ve been really hesitant to play my Scarlet cartridge since I’ve heard of the glitch, so I wanna know before I even touch it again

It's pretty obvious by now that this "Save Bug" is either a straight-up HOAX, or the Redditor that started this entire s***storm screwed up his save file by hacking or other dubious means, and wanted to blame GF for the his stupidity. Keep in mind that, to date, there is NOT ONE SINGLE VIDEO OR SCREENSHOT DOCUMENTING A SUPPOSED CORRUPTED/DELETED SAVE FILE other than the one video sent to Austin John Plays from the OP himself, which itself is very odd because you'll notice in the video that he gets the unrecognized save message before it even reaches the title screen. This same behavior can be recreated if you are using a poorly hacked game card. The "Corrupted save data detected" IS NOT THE SAME ERROR as the "Save data in the Nintendo Switch couldn't be recognized" which is the error the OP was seeing. The former can happen for a number of reasons (including but not limited to inferior quality or failing SD cards), and is not unique to Pokemon S/V. I'd be willing to bet that a vast majority of the people reporting the save bug were receiving the "corrupted data error," which is far more common, than the "save data couldn't be recognized" error. Face it: The Reddit guy that started all of this foolishness was hacking his game and paid the ultimate price for being a cheating loser. Case closed.

This entire thing has turned out to be bogus. Time to print a retraction article. There is no "save wiping bug" and there never was. All of you internet journos really jumped the gun (as usual).

@SwitchForce Minecraft and Fortnite are great games, not $60 bugged game. Minecraft here is even used in schools. Microsoft has a partnership with schools and a Minecraft kit for children to learn programming notions. It's very high quality. A magnificent job. Fortnite is like Rocket League, the game has become a sport. Both are free. I don't really like FPS, but I play Rocket League every week. 125 million people do the same! No bugs, no $60 for poor gameplay.

@Rykdrew Minecraft isn't bug free you say? I'd check the history of Minecraft bugs on that front.

Pokemon is such a good serie. I hope this game will get better with this update.

@riChchestM Minecraft is not $60...the company behind these games, significantly improve their games over time. Nintendo is lazier.

This is just sad at this point. I'm honestly having more fun replaying Crystal and Ruby/Sapphire than this buggy game. Fingers crossed they do an Arceus 2

@Eagly no, it is the most profitable because it is the most profitable
It is also the highest revenue franchise

@Eagly I think it must be true.