I was waiting for this game for ages and didnt exactly temper my expectations, so to be enjoying it this much is great.
I can't understand the kiddies that say it looks like a PS3 game etc, most of the time it looks absolutely stunning and I've found myself just staring out into the biome, wondering around taking screenshots etc. Somehow the HDR is so good it even looks amazing on my QLED TV that has really almost no HDR ability (only 350 nits). I can only imagine how good it looks on a proper HDR, OLED TV.
@Galaxy2IsTheGOAT I agree. And this is coming from someone that at first, didn't like Dread at all. I thought it was probably a decent action platformer in itself, but not a great 'Metroid' game.
I came back to it though and stuck through it, and I'm glad I did, as my opinion completely flipped. One of the very finest Metroid games IMO, and a great game in general.
I'm really enjoying it so far. Not even Myles bothers me too much. The only downside is the guy talking so much kinda makes it more obvious how Samus generally DOESN'T talk, which can seem a bit weird as she's not a mute like Link. But that's a minor thing, not really a gripe as much as an observation.
Yeah I'm not typically big on the pre-ordering these days, but for MP4 I had to make an exception. I was waiting for this game even before the Switch 2 was a thing.
Not for me being both key-card and I... just can never get into Souls games personally, but great for those waiting for it. Sounds like the extra time to let it cook is worth it.
@JohnnyMind I'd say this game is more spooky than scary. I'm not great with games that are outright scary, like being relentlessly chased etc, but this game isn't really that. More environmental puzzles and spooky atmosphere. But if someone just outright isn't into any sort of horror I guess it might not be their jam, but I would say for those that might struggle with most horror games, this one is quite manageable.
EDIT: Although I just realised the one I played was the original from 2016. Not sure how different this one is...
It's fine to enjoy a game if it otherwise runs well and you don't mind a few missing little details, you find it fun etc etc.
DF's analysis has nothing to do with that. Their technical deep dives are for people looking for those fine grained details and honestly, if they help keep devs honest and call out shortcuts or lack of optimization etc, that's a good thing.
@John_Deacon yeah it's pretty crazy. Mofos like me struggle to beat Ninja Gaiden at normal pace, using actual eyes, and these guys are doing it in record time and blind.
Interesting. But then myself and others didn't think much of some of the initial looks at Donkey Kong Bananza and thought it would get old quickly, and look how that turned out
Niche perhaps, but anyone that thinks the market for this is non-existant or pointless, needs to get out of their Nintendo fanboy bubble. There's a lot of people looking forward to this and Valve wouldn't do it if there wasn't a market.
The question for me personally will be pricing and upgradeability. I'm already comfortable both building PCs and running Linux, so whether I would buy one of these or just essentially make one is the thing.
I've already played through this on PC, but I can certainly recommend the game. It took a little to grow on me compared to Persona 4 Golden, and Tartarus can definitely be repetitive and a bit of a slog at times, but it's a great game overall.
Emulated NES games were a massive part of my childhood, all I had at the time was an old clunky beige Pentium 100, 16MB RAM PC which was already way outdated itself, but as a not very wealthy kid I didn't care or know the difference, but even that could handle NES games in DOS powered emulators.
@rallydefault I don't think that's entirely fair. I'm one of those more forgiving on frame rate too (hell, I played through all of Ninja Gaiden: Ragebound on Switch 1 in all its 30fps 'glory' ), but when a lot of people are used to 60FPS and beyond for one reason or another (especially the newer generations I'm guessing), I can see 30fps being quite jarring to them.
I won't get into arguing. Just suffice to say that personally, if a game is GKC, I ain't buying it.
The way things are going, I'll likely just be buying Nintendo's own games (fully physical) and GOG on the PC side of things. They are digital only but you get an offline installer so can make your own physical backup if you so wish. No fancy boxes or anything obviously, but I'm not so much a collector as just someone who likes having the freedom to preserve how I want to.
@FX29 yeah I'm forcing my way through Hollow Knight at the moment, but I'm unsure how far I want to go. I understand the game is meant to get better as it goes, but I'm not feeling the same enjoyment I get from a Metroid game. I think it's the same problem I encounter with Souls games - I can brute force my way through the difficulty with enough determination, but the world just feels kinda depressing and empty, so it doesn't always feel worth it.
Still, I'll give it more of a chance, just feels like a chore at the moment.
@JohnnyMind It's also interesting to me that they chose to just nerf certain areas/enemies (as I understand it, I haven't played the game) rather than just offering a difficulty choice. The former is more likely to inflame some of their difficulty loving fanbase, while the former caters for everyone while still keeping the original game/difficulty. Interesting decision, but maybe it was just easier to code in.
It's a pass from me, at $30 something AUD. I was hoping it might have at least been part of the Online subscription, but nope. Nintendo being a little of their signature greedy.
I think the open, biking thing will be to some extent a gimmick and not the meat of the game. As long as it doesn't detract too much from the game that's all that matters to me.
@Medic_alert yeah I'll be honest, as someone who doesn't have big portable gaming needs (unless you count the journey to the couch), and if not for Metroid Prime 4, I'm not sure I'd even have my Switch 2 anymore.
Sure Bananza is great, but I probably wouldn't spend $700+ AUD on a console just to play it. At this point it's all about MP4 and I guess any new flagship Zelda games in future.
All I ever wanted was an MP4 release date and I got that at least. For some reason they chose some of the worst looking footage I've seen of the game. It's looked great in everything I've seen before, but this motorcycle open world thing almost looked like it was just slapped in as an after thought and the overall game visual fidelity looked unusually low.
Nintendo being Nintendo I guess. Still have high hopes for the game, cautiously.
@Pillowpants indeed, and it's always going to be increasingly hard to find truly original ideas anyway (goes for almost in anything in the world), most of it is gonna be inspired by other things or an iteration of other ideas.
@SirVick agree, great for those that only have a Switch 2 of course, but I'd go one of the platforms that can play it cranked up in details otherwise. Wonderful game.
@HeldHero yeah I've noticed that, you see it a lot in the Dark Souls community etc. It seems a bit like insecurity or something, there being an easy mode isn't going to take away from their fun and sense of achievement, if thats what they're so worried about.
I don't see how adding accessibility options would alter any game's artistic vision. You would have the standard game, then the other options for those that need them. Seems obvious to me.
I liked the way Ninja Gaiden: Ragebound handled it, with the difficulty/accessibility options it had. Surprisingly, I never had to use any of them (I'm not the best gamer) and I pushed through the game even though some bosses touched me up badly, but it was nice to know the option was there if need be.
I don't think there's anything wrong with demanding more on a platform that demands so much from one's wallet. Yes there are compromises we have to accept on a hybrid vs dedicated system, but only so much. Ports like Outlaws should be the norm, not... this.
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Re: Metroid Prime 4 On Switch 1 Impresses Digital Foundry - "Nigh-Imperceptible Dips"
I wish more game devs took a page out of Retro's book when it comes to optimization and frame consistency, they do an amazing job
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Metroid Prime 4: Beyond?
9 so far.
I was waiting for this game for ages and didnt exactly temper my expectations, so to be enjoying it this much is great.
I can't understand the kiddies that say it looks like a PS3 game etc, most of the time it looks absolutely stunning and I've found myself just staring out into the biome, wondering around taking screenshots etc. Somehow the HDR is so good it even looks amazing on my QLED TV that has really almost no HDR ability (only 350 nits). I can only imagine how good it looks on a proper HDR, OLED TV.
Re: Feature: My NES Longing, My Son's Terrifying Switch 2 Obsession
Wowee, if a Switch 2 appeared under the Xmas tree it sounds like he might just die from excitement!
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (6th December)
@Discostew Reminds me, I need to (likely) re-cap my SNES at some point, the left audio channel is out.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (6th December)
Metroid Prime 4, of course!
Re: Metacritic Shares Updated List Of "Every Metroid Game, Ranked"
@Galaxy2IsTheGOAT I agree. And this is coming from someone that at first, didn't like Dread at all. I thought it was probably a decent action platformer in itself, but not a great 'Metroid' game.
I came back to it though and stuck through it, and I'm glad I did, as my opinion completely flipped. One of the very finest Metroid games IMO, and a great game in general.
Re: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond Has Been Updated To Ver. 1.1.0, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
I'm really enjoying it so far. Not even Myles bothers me too much. The only downside is the guy talking so much kinda makes it more obvious how Samus generally DOESN'T talk, which can seem a bit weird as she's not a mute like Link. But that's a minor thing, not really a gripe as much as an observation.
Re: Poll: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond Is Out On Switch 2 And Switch This Week, Will You Be Getting It?
I pre-ordered it day 1.
Yeah I'm not typically big on the pre-ordering these days, but for MP4 I had to make an exception. I was waiting for this game even before the Switch 2 was a thing.
Re: "One Of The Best-Looking Games On Switch 2" - Digital Foundry Dives Into Metroid Prime 4
Retro sure know how to cook. As it's already been said, I'm not surprised given how amazing Metroid Remastered was on the humble OG Switch.
Re: Review: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition (Switch 2) - Samus Returns In Prime Form
Oh I am so in. I mean I already was, but...yeah. I'll be able to dust off the Switch 2 and really put it through its paces.
Re: Here's Another Look At Elden Ring Running On Switch 2
Not for me being both key-card and I... just can never get into Souls games personally, but great for those waiting for it. Sounds like the extra time to let it cook is worth it.
Re: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond - Meet The Team
I'm pumped in any case. Amazing to think that we're actually getting a new Metroid game.
Re: Exclusive: Bloober Team Is Bringing Layers Of Fear To Switch 2 Next Month
@JohnnyMind I'd say this game is more spooky than scary. I'm not great with games that are outright scary, like being relentlessly chased etc, but this game isn't really that. More environmental puzzles and spooky atmosphere. But if someone just outright isn't into any sort of horror I guess it might not be their jam, but I would say for those that might struggle with most horror games, this one is quite manageable.
EDIT: Although I just realised the one I played was the original from 2016. Not sure how different this one is...
Re: Digital Foundry Dives Into Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition's "Big Downgrades" On Switch 2
It's fine to enjoy a game if it otherwise runs well and you don't mind a few missing little details, you find it fun etc etc.
DF's analysis has nothing to do with that. Their technical deep dives are for people looking for those fine grained details and honestly, if they help keep devs honest and call out shortcuts or lack of optimization etc, that's a good thing.
Re: Huge Super Mario 64 Trick That Will Change Speedruns "Forever" Has Been Discovered
@John_Deacon yeah it's pretty crazy. Mofos like me struggle to beat Ninja Gaiden at normal pace, using actual eyes, and these guys are doing it in record time and blind.
Re: The Game Awards Nominees Announced, Donkey Kong Bananza Up For GOTY
It'll be E33, but for me personally its KCD 2
Re: Round Up: The Final Previews Are In For Metroid Prime 4: Beyond
Interesting. But then myself and others didn't think much of some of the initial looks at Donkey Kong Bananza and thought it would get old quickly, and look how that turned out
Re: Random: Steam's Brand New Game Console Sure Looks Awfully Familiar
Niche perhaps, but anyone that thinks the market for this is non-existant or pointless, needs to get out of their Nintendo fanboy bubble. There's a lot of people looking forward to this and Valve wouldn't do it if there wasn't a market.
The question for me personally will be pricing and upgradeability. I'm already comfortable both building PCs and running Linux, so whether I would buy one of these or just essentially make one is the thing.
Re: Metroid Prime 4's Sweet New Trailer Builds The Hype For Next Month's Launch
Can't wait, have it pre-ordered already. This game was one of the main reasons I got a Switch 2.
Yes I know, not very sensible when there's a Switch 1 version of the game as well, but I'm not always sensible.
Re: Resident Evil Pro Controller Is Available To Pre-Order, But Its Price Is Terrifying
Pretty underwhelming for the price IMO.
Re: Kirby Air Riders Direct #2: Every Announcement - How Would You Rate it?
MKW is gonna have some catching up to do
Re: Review: Persona 3 Reload (Switch 2) - A Great Remake, But Still Not Definitive
I've already played through this on PC, but I can certainly recommend the game. It took a little to grow on me compared to Persona 4 Golden, and Tartarus can definitely be repetitive and a bit of a slog at times, but it's a great game overall.
EDIT: Eh yeah, key card warning too. Grr.
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Play NES Games These Days?
Emulated NES games were a massive part of my childhood, all I had at the time was an old clunky beige Pentium 100, 16MB RAM PC which was already way outdated itself, but as a not very wealthy kid I didn't care or know the difference, but even that could handle NES games in DOS powered emulators.
These days, its either NSO or my homebrew 3DS.
Re: Poll: Is It About Time Game Freak Added Voice Acting To Pokémon?
Well Digimon did it
Re: Review: Yooka-Replaylee (Switch 2) - Feels Like The Game It Was Meant To Be, Finally
@rallydefault I don't think that's entirely fair. I'm one of those more forgiving on frame rate too (hell, I played through all of Ninja Gaiden: Ragebound on Switch 1 in all its 30fps 'glory' ), but when a lot of people are used to 60FPS and beyond for one reason or another (especially the newer generations I'm guessing), I can see 30fps being quite jarring to them.
Re: Review: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (Switch) - Cracking Karting, But Struggles To Keep Up On Switch
Oof, a couple of those Switch 1 screen grabs of the game almost look like Gamecube graphics
Re: Game-Key Cards A "Sales Strategy Decision", Says Resident Evil Requiem Director
I won't get into arguing. Just suffice to say that personally, if a game is GKC, I ain't buying it.
The way things are going, I'll likely just be buying Nintendo's own games (fully physical) and GOG on the PC side of things. They are digital only but you get an offline installer so can make your own physical backup if you so wish. No fancy boxes or anything obviously, but I'm not so much a collector as just someone who likes having the freedom to preserve how I want to.
Re: Borderlands 4 Has Been Delayed For Switch 2, Digital Pre-Orders Cancelled
I'm shocked, SHOCKED. Well, not that shocked.
Re: Opinion: Resident Evil Requiem Represents A Turning Point For Switch 2
PC for sure, but nice it's an option for Switch 2
Re: Team Cherry Explains Hollow Knight: Silksong's "Steep Difficulty"
@FX29 yeah I'm forcing my way through Hollow Knight at the moment, but I'm unsure how far I want to go. I understand the game is meant to get better as it goes, but I'm not feeling the same enjoyment I get from a Metroid game. I think it's the same problem I encounter with Souls games - I can brute force my way through the difficulty with enough determination, but the world just feels kinda depressing and empty, so it doesn't always feel worth it.
Still, I'll give it more of a chance, just feels like a chore at the moment.
Re: Team Cherry Explains Hollow Knight: Silksong's "Steep Difficulty"
@JohnnyMind It's also interesting to me that they chose to just nerf certain areas/enemies (as I understand it, I haven't played the game) rather than just offering a difficulty choice. The former is more likely to inflame some of their difficulty loving fanbase, while the former caters for everyone while still keeping the original game/difficulty. Interesting decision, but maybe it was just easier to code in.
Re: Review: Donkey Kong Bananza: DK Island & Emerald Rush (Switch 2) - DLC That's Ripe With Fun, But Could've Been More
It's a pass from me, at $30 something AUD. I was hoping it might have at least been part of the Online subscription, but nope. Nintendo being a little of their signature greedy.
Re: Opinion: Metroid Prime 4 Reminds Me Of Gears 5, And It's Making Me Nervous
Very much wait and see.
I think the open, biking thing will be to some extent a gimmick and not the meat of the game. As long as it doesn't detract too much from the game that's all that matters to me.
Re: Borderlands 4 Goes Down Well With Critics As Gearbox Acknowledges FOV Issue
Someone at the company should take Randy's social media access away, he just can't help himself.
Re: Nintendo Is "Acting To Protect The Industry" With Switch 2 Game Key Cards, Says Ex-Capcom Composer
Sure, give me an offline installer to download / archive like GOG.com does and I'd happily accept that argument of digital lasting longer.
But alas...
Re: No Switch 2 "Upgrade Path" For Dragon Quest VII: Reimagined Planned
@Medic_alert yeah I'll be honest, as someone who doesn't have big portable gaming needs (unless you count the journey to the couch), and if not for Metroid Prime 4, I'm not sure I'd even have my Switch 2 anymore.
Sure Bananza is great, but I probably wouldn't spend $700+ AUD on a console just to play it. At this point it's all about MP4 and I guess any new flagship Zelda games in future.
Most anything else I can play on other platforms.
Re: Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment Box Art Officially Revealed For Switch 2
Looks great, and Zelda looks both badass and majestic at the same time which is perfect IMO
Re: Nintendo Direct September 2025: Every Announcement, Game Reveal, Trailer
All I ever wanted was an MP4 release date and I got that at least. For some reason they chose some of the worst looking footage I've seen of the game. It's looked great in everything I've seen before, but this motorcycle open world thing almost looked like it was just slapped in as an after thought and the overall game visual fidelity looked unusually low.
Nintendo being Nintendo I guess. Still have high hopes for the game, cautiously.
Re: Cosy Survival Sim 'Dinkum' Brings The Outback To Switch In November
Are we sure it isn't a horror game? Given our (Aussie) wildlife?
Re: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond Finally Gets A Release Date, Open World Confirmed
Kinda looked like the trailer was the Switch 1 version, but could be wrong. It was very brief.
Anyway just glad to finally have a release date!
Re: Pokémon's Former Chief Legal Officer Believes Nintendo's Latest Patent Will Be Ignored
@Pillowpants indeed, and it's always going to be increasingly hard to find truly original ideas anyway (goes for almost in anything in the world), most of it is gonna be inspired by other things or an iteration of other ideas.
Re: "I Have No Words" - Silksong Fans Are Losing Their Minds Over One Bench
If there's a reasonable hint, fair enough. If there were none at all, it would just be mean spirited.
Re: Exclusive: Bloober Team Bigs Up The Switch 2 With 'Cronos' Live-Action Trailer
@SirVick agree, great for those that only have a Switch 2 of course, but I'd go one of the platforms that can play it cranked up in details otherwise. Wonderful game.
Re: Nintendo Direct Announced For Friday, 12th September 2025
If MP4 doesn't get a release date, I going to be a very sad panda
Re: Nintendo's Patent On 'Sub Characters' Could Have Some Dire Ramifications
This is no good, at all. The system is broken when it comes to stuff like this.
Re: Talking Point: Is Hollow Knight: Silksong Too Difficult?
@HeldHero yeah I've noticed that, you see it a lot in the Dark Souls community etc. It seems a bit like insecurity or something, there being an easy mode isn't going to take away from their fun and sense of achievement, if thats what they're so worried about.
Re: Talking Point: Is Hollow Knight: Silksong Too Difficult?
I don't see how adding accessibility options would alter any game's artistic vision. You would have the standard game, then the other options for those that need them. Seems obvious to me.
Re: Hollow Knight: Silksong's Upcoming Patch Will Nerf The Difficulty In Certain Areas
I liked the way Ninja Gaiden: Ragebound handled it, with the difficulty/accessibility options it had. Surprisingly, I never had to use any of them (I'm not the best gamer) and I pushed through the game even though some bosses touched me up badly, but it was nice to know the option was there if need be.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws 'Switch 2 Title Update 1' Now Available, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
I'm no fan of Ubisoft, but fair play on the work on this.
Re: Review: NBA 2K26 (Switch 2) - Brilliant B-Ball Has A Disappointing Debut On Switch 2
I don't think there's anything wrong with demanding more on a platform that demands so much from one's wallet. Yes there are compromises we have to accept on a hybrid vs dedicated system, but only so much. Ports like Outlaws should be the norm, not... this.