I agree that they very well may more or less port the existing Smash to NX, rather than make an entirely new one.
They're doing so much to maintain and extend longevity of the current title. It'd sure seem like a waste to make a whole new one from scratch. More characters, more stages, more enhancement.
@enderboy221 Arkham City Armoured Edition was great and included all the DLC up to that point on-disc. Arkham Origins was, I've heard, a decent enough port in and of itself, but it's what they're referring to when they mention the lack of extra content.
@MrGawain You've got that right. That very well explains my tastes and interests, at least.
@TheLastLugia The sad thing is that it sort of is. I mean, not all of us, and of course there are other factors like poor hardware sales due to the general public not caring about the Wii U's existence. But there are plenty of Nintendo fans who are at least partially at fault - the guys who only buy Nintendo games on Nintendo systems, flat-out ignoring anything that isn't a system exclusive, absolutely share some of the blame.
I was personally very happy with Ass Creed IV. Maybe we got no DLC, but there's so much in the base game that I never even noticed until someone mentioned it on here.
I remember you guys mentioning some technical hiccups that I also never noticed or took any issue with.
I got as many third-party titles as I could/wanted. Ninja Gaiden 3 goes in the camp with Bayonetta 2 and its ilk, and Tekken Tag 2 was a lot of fun and even got its own official stick that other Nintendo Lifers have told me is fantastic. And there's also Arkham City; that one turned out really well, in my opinion, with included DLC and GamePad-specific features that were well integrated.
I didn't know that the Deus Ex port was so good. Need to pick that up, sometime.
@NintendoFan64 You must be new to cosplay. Gender swaps happen all the time. Femlinks and dudes in Peach dresses... nothing unusual here.
My favourite example was a very convincing Leon Belmont female cosplay. Embrace unity and equality, my friend.
@Tsuchinoko Ooh, I forgot about the Fire Emblem concert. I wanna listen to that; sure hope they release an album of it, though it probably wouldn't see a Western release, sadly.
I agree that this isn't really news, but at least it beats everything on their cosplay highlights article.
Ha! But wait, reaching the level cap doesn't mean you have less to do. Quite the contrary, really; it gives you access to more gear to try out and unlock skills, and it pits you against (theoretically) some of the toughest competition. It doesn't even slightly limit the game's scope. Given the thriving online multiplayer, at no point would I think I've nothing left to do, just because I've reached what is presently Maximum Freshness.
@SetupDisk Right? I was wondering where all that was coming from. They must think it makes them seem cool for talking crap about a thing that nearly everyone uses to keep in contact with people and readily share things of interest... you know, like custom Mario levels.
No property is treated with respect by being in this turd pile.
That said, I fully understand Nintendo agreeing to have him in the film. This movie is probably going to be very popular, at least partially driven on by the controversy that inevitably arises from people defending against all negative viewpoints.
Second on the poll idea. For this set, if not for the Fire Emblem-esque interpretation of Umbreon, my response would be a resounding "meh." These were mostly underwhelming, but good on them for trying at all.
I already have multiple copies of Streets of Rage, but suddenly find myself wanting these two 3D Classics, purely for the amount of effort put into the ports.
@errantrazor Nintendo Life often writes about SEGA topics. Take the Genesis and Virtua Fighter retrospectives, and the recent lip service about making better games than most of their efforts from the past decade as examples.
There's significant overlap between Nintendo and SEGA fans, so I think it makes perfect sense.
@MikeW Speak for yourself, buddy. I would have bought it, under the original promise. In my opinion, you're part of the problem.
And I don't mean that in like a pompous, I'm-a-better-Nintendo-fan-than-you kind of crap. You buy whatever games you want, as anyone will. It just saddens me that so few Nintendo gamers have zero interest in anything not made by/exclusive to Nintendo. I figure it's because you have multiple consoles or at least a proper PC, so good for you. Just sucks for us.
@DiscoGentleman Aye, only speculation, but it's getting harder to come up with any other explanation. Your assessment makes the most sense, so far.
Hopefully, the full Wii U game won't have broken online, or anything. To echo several others, it'd be rad to have cross-platform play, but I'm not holding my breath for it.
@ultraraichu "What next the final version of the game is actually good?" Man, I sure hope so. Anything less, and this will really have been a waste of time.
The more I think about it, the more I realise that this game will likely be the exact opposite of Other M.
That is to say, Other M was hotly anticipated, due to its flashy trailers that truly made us all think that we were in for a treat. That game turned out to be an utter atrocity (mindless defenders notwithstanding).
Now, here we are looking at excessive fanboy backlash for Federation Force being a spin-off game (and I'll admit that I'd prefer a mainline Metroid title, as well) with a chunky aesthetic and not outright starring Samus. And watch it end up super highly rated due to Next Level Games' expertise in crafting experiences with finely tuned, focused mechanics. I'll betcha betcha.
Whatever the result, I personally trust Next Level, ever since Punch-Out!! on the Wii. Fantastic game, that, and since my initial reaction to Blasted Blue Balls has more or less subsided, I'll give the developer the benefit of the doubt. We'll see whose expectations hold up, in the end.
@SPLAofTOON I was gonna mention the Tekken Tag 2 Wii U stick. I never did get my hands on that one, though I know that it functioned like the Tatsunoko stick, i.e. as a Classic Controller.
I'd love to have one that is recognised by the system as a Pro Controller, but I'm well aware that if these guys do make a Wuu peripheral, it'll most likely be fashioned after the GameCube's. That's not a bad thing, but as a fighting game fan, I sure wish that more such games and sticks would come our way.
@tobbonni I've actually come to prefer the Pro Controller over GCN for Smash. This is partially because I don't own the necessary adapter, but also because the 3DS version kinda prepped me for that button layout in the game. Also, I really don't have all that much trouble adjusting to new control schemes, in general.
@Mr_Zurkon This whole thing just keeps getting weirder. Now, it feels like he doesn't even care if the game performs well on Wii U, much less that Nintendo helped him get the project back on its feet.
@ULTRA-64 No, not all that outrageous an assumption, but I really just don't know. Seems more like Nintendo would pull the plug entirely, than risk a "bad game forever" under their name.
@ULTRA-64 Exactly! Don't feed the troll, you guys. Itagaki sounds like a brat with that statement; don't drop to the same level. It only fuels the mindless defenders.
I, meanwhile, will remain firmly on the fence until my butt starts hurting, or I get the chance to play it myself.
This all just seems so odd, because word was that Nintendo was super involved with Bayonetta 2, helping the game reach its full potential with pointers and such. And considering that they produced Ninja Gaiden 3, they're no strangers to chaotic, super-difficult action game design.
Something seems off that the big N is acting considerably less involved with this one, not to mention (I know that I'm a broken record with this point) the disconnect between regions. Europe and Japan seem to have no issues that anyone has mentioned, but NoA seems really cautious about releasing the game. As Nintendo is typically very unified in their approach to releasing only finished products, I really wonder what's going on inside this whole debacle.
Oh, jeez. Here we go. The onslaught of comments has barely begun, methinks.
"Not the terrible, outdated game design, atrocious frame-rate, PS2-level visuals or dull, uninspiring boss battles..." Really, guys? You're getting all grumpy because Itagaki talks from an elitist point of view, something he has done throughout his entire career? I mean, I agree that his remarks were unnecessary, but don't go exaggerating your complaints, just because you're a little butthurt over some famous guy's remarks about player skill.
I feel the need to echo the comment above me, though perhaps with a little less hyperbole: that's not the mark of credible journalism.
I agree, though, that the man has never taken criticism well, and it's entirely possible that this attitude causes him to ignore actual, potential problems with his game. Even so, the point about your reaction to his statement stands firm.
@Einherjar As usual, I think that you've got the right idea.
@crimsontadpoles I'm right there with you. No personal interest in the series, but good for everyone who wants it that it's being released here, at all.
I actually did enjoy this one, so I'm glad that they don't regret it, or whatever. I let my lady play it, since it's so rare that she directly participates, and I rightly assumed that she'd like it.
@Kimite Don't worry about time; this is a very short game.
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Re: Editorial: Super Smash Bros. Should be Integral to Nintendo's NX Future
I agree that they very well may more or less port the existing Smash to NX, rather than make an entirely new one.
They're doing so much to maintain and extend longevity of the current title. It'd sure seem like a waste to make a whole new one from scratch. More characters, more stages, more enhancement.
Re: Promising Platformer Mekazoo Adds Local Co-Op Multiplayer
Really don't care for the art style, but the mechanics look good. I dunno; maybe.
Re: This Plate & Watch New Nintendo 3DS Cover Plate is Hard to Resist
Ohhh wellllll.
Re: Talking Point: Wii U Gamers Have Been Treated Poorly By The Third-Party Retail Scene, But The System Still Brings Joy
@enderboy221 Arkham City Armoured Edition was great and included all the DLC up to that point on-disc. Arkham Origins was, I've heard, a decent enough port in and of itself, but it's what they're referring to when they mention the lack of extra content.
@MrGawain You've got that right. That very well explains my tastes and interests, at least.
Re: Talking Point: Wii U Gamers Have Been Treated Poorly By The Third-Party Retail Scene, But The System Still Brings Joy
@TheLastLugia The sad thing is that it sort of is. I mean, not all of us, and of course there are other factors like poor hardware sales due to the general public not caring about the Wii U's existence. But there are plenty of Nintendo fans who are at least partially at fault - the guys who only buy Nintendo games on Nintendo systems, flat-out ignoring anything that isn't a system exclusive, absolutely share some of the blame.
Re: Talking Point: Wii U Gamers Have Been Treated Poorly By The Third-Party Retail Scene, But The System Still Brings Joy
I was personally very happy with Ass Creed IV. Maybe we got no DLC, but there's so much in the base game that I never even noticed until someone mentioned it on here.
I remember you guys mentioning some technical hiccups that I also never noticed or took any issue with.
I got as many third-party titles as I could/wanted. Ninja Gaiden 3 goes in the camp with Bayonetta 2 and its ilk, and Tekken Tag 2 was a lot of fun and even got its own official stick that other Nintendo Lifers have told me is fantastic. And there's also Arkham City; that one turned out really well, in my opinion, with included DLC and GamePad-specific features that were well integrated.
I didn't know that the Deus Ex port was so good. Need to pick that up, sometime.
Re: Nintendo TVii Service Ends In North America On August 11
And no one ever cared. The End.
Re: Japanese Retailer Highlights Stock Issues With Animal Crossing amiibo Cards
Dem Japan-ish types sure love them some Animal Crossing.
Re: Crunchyroll Wii U App Can Now Be Used Without A Subscription
Neat. Guess I'll be downloading that, then.
Re: Weirdness: Here's What An All-Human Star Fox Team Looks Like
@NintendoFan64 You must be new to cosplay. Gender swaps happen all the time. Femlinks and dudes in Peach dresses... nothing unusual here.
My favourite example was a very convincing Leon Belmont female cosplay. Embrace unity and equality, my friend.
@Tsuchinoko Ooh, I forgot about the Fire Emblem concert. I wanna listen to that; sure hope they release an album of it, though it probably wouldn't see a Western release, sadly.
I agree that this isn't really news, but at least it beats everything on their cosplay highlights article.
Re: Players Reached Splatoon's Level Cap So Fast That Nintendo Worried About Their General Well-Being
Ha! But wait, reaching the level cap doesn't mean you have less to do. Quite the contrary, really; it gives you access to more gear to try out and unlock skills, and it pits you against (theoretically) some of the toughest competition. It doesn't even slightly limit the game's scope. Given the thriving online multiplayer, at no point would I think I've nothing left to do, just because I've reached what is presently Maximum Freshness.
Re: Nintendo is Partnering With Facebook for Super Mario Maker's Launch
@SetupDisk Right? I was wondering where all that was coming from. They must think it makes them seem cool for talking crap about a thing that nearly everyone uses to keep in contact with people and readily share things of interest... you know, like custom Mario levels.
@Stu13 We can hope.
Re: Aperion Cyberstorm's Multiplayer Versus Modes Look Suitably Chaotic
Wow, neat. So many shooters on my Wuu and 3DS. I'm so glad that this one has that competcompecompetitive multiplayer thing going for it.
Re: Dave & Buster's is Planning Location Testing for Pokkén Tournament in North America
Bring it on! Let's do this!
Re: Donkey Kong Nearly Missed Out On Pixels Stardom
No property is treated with respect by being in this turd pile.
That said, I fully understand Nintendo agreeing to have him in the film. This movie is probably going to be very popular, at least partially driven on by the controversy that inevitably arises from people defending against all negative viewpoints.
Re: Japanese Devil's Third Site Details Online Modes, Microtransactions And File Size
"The game will also feature microtransactions which allow you to buy in-game currency using real-world cash."
All of my nope. I know it's optional and all, but it still disgusts me.
Re: If Chibi-Robo Ever Came To Wii U, He'd Be Very, Very Shiny
Bloom.
Re: Gallery: Nintendo Cosplay July Round-Up
Second on the poll idea. For this set, if not for the Fire Emblem-esque interpretation of Umbreon, my response would be a resounding "meh." These were mostly underwhelming, but good on them for trying at all.
Re: EVO Players Loved Hyperkin's New GameCube-Inspired ProCube Pad
Assuming it's not outrageously overpriced, sure.
Re: Video: Here's What Luigi Mansion Arcade Looks Like In The Ghoulish Flesh
I think a home console version would sorta be missing the point.
I would certainly try out the machine, given the opportunity.
Re: Amazon Confirms Sale Window for Palutena amiibo in North America
She sure is pretty, but I think I'll pass on this one.
@NickieBoy I dig it. Is that actually from Uprising?
Re: Genyo Takeda The Likely Choice For Nintendo President, Analysts Claim
I agree that it makes sense. Also, Takeda is basically listed as the leader on the death announcement form thingy.
Most signs so far point to him as the successor, but of course, you never know.
Re: Assault Android Cactus Brings Mega Weapons and Neat Camera Angles Into the Battle
It's cute. I'm still considering it, but the game is more a "probably" than a "maybe."
Re: BADLAND: Game Of The Year Edition Hits Wii U eShop On 30th July
Eh. I'm just not interested in this one.
Re: Nintendo's Japanese YouTube Channel Serves Up a Musical Splatoon Treat, Devil's Third and Retro Goodness
@Gauchorino Or something. I really want it to be good.
Re: M2 Initially Felt Porting Streets Of Rage 2 To 3DS Was "Impossible"
I already have multiple copies of Streets of Rage, but suddenly find myself wanting these two 3D Classics, purely for the amount of effort put into the ports.
Re: Nintendo Wins Patent Case Against Handhelds
"Hey, they stole our technology!"
Really? What'd you invent?
"A, um, sorta rectangular device with a screen and some buttons... that you operate using your... hands."
Uh-huh. Case dismissed. Please stop wasting our time.
Re: Weirdness: Sega's Repackaged Transformers Arcade Game Is An Unexpected Nod To Its Glorious Past
@errantrazor Nintendo Life often writes about SEGA topics. Take the Genesis and Virtua Fighter retrospectives, and the recent lip service about making better games than most of their efforts from the past decade as examples.
There's significant overlap between Nintendo and SEGA fans, so I think it makes perfect sense.
Re: Mario & Sonic At The Rio 2016 Olympics Is Getting An Arcade Release
Oh. Uh... okay.
Re: Weirdness: Sega's Repackaged Transformers Arcade Game Is An Unexpected Nod To Its Glorious Past
Whoo! Now, make VF6!
Re: Exclusive: Project CARS "Simply Too Much For Wii U", Developer Now Waiting On New Nintendo Hardware
@MikeW Speak for yourself, buddy. I would have bought it, under the original promise. In my opinion, you're part of the problem.
And I don't mean that in like a pompous, I'm-a-better-Nintendo-fan-than-you kind of crap. You buy whatever games you want, as anyone will. It just saddens me that so few Nintendo gamers have zero interest in anything not made by/exclusive to Nintendo. I figure it's because you have multiple consoles or at least a proper PC, so good for you. Just sucks for us.
Re: Exclusive: Project CARS "Simply Too Much For Wii U", Developer Now Waiting On New Nintendo Hardware
Backpedal, backpedal, backpedal...
Re: Devil's Third is Being Published by Nintendo of America in Q4, Also Coming to PC as 'Free-to-Start' Title
@DiscoGentleman Aye, only speculation, but it's getting harder to come up with any other explanation. Your assessment makes the most sense, so far.
Hopefully, the full Wii U game won't have broken online, or anything. To echo several others, it'd be rad to have cross-platform play, but I'm not holding my breath for it.
@ultraraichu "What next the final version of the game is actually good?" Man, I sure hope so. Anything less, and this will really have been a waste of time.
Re: Don't Worry, Samus Will Be In Metroid Prime: Federation Force
The more I think about it, the more I realise that this game will likely be the exact opposite of Other M.
That is to say, Other M was hotly anticipated, due to its flashy trailers that truly made us all think that we were in for a treat. That game turned out to be an utter atrocity (mindless defenders notwithstanding).
Now, here we are looking at excessive fanboy backlash for Federation Force being a spin-off game (and I'll admit that I'd prefer a mainline Metroid title, as well) with a chunky aesthetic and not outright starring Samus. And watch it end up super highly rated due to Next Level Games' expertise in crafting experiences with finely tuned, focused mechanics. I'll betcha betcha.
Whatever the result, I personally trust Next Level, ever since Punch-Out!! on the Wii. Fantastic game, that, and since my initial reaction to Blasted Blue Balls has more or less subsided, I'll give the developer the benefit of the doubt. We'll see whose expectations hold up, in the end.
Re: Razer "Definitely Considering" Making Controllers For Wii U
@SPLAofTOON I was gonna mention the Tekken Tag 2 Wii U stick. I never did get my hands on that one, though I know that it functioned like the Tatsunoko stick, i.e. as a Classic Controller.
I'd love to have one that is recognised by the system as a Pro Controller, but I'm well aware that if these guys do make a Wuu peripheral, it'll most likely be fashioned after the GameCube's. That's not a bad thing, but as a fighting game fan, I sure wish that more such games and sticks would come our way.
@tobbonni I've actually come to prefer the Pro Controller over GCN for Smash. This is partially because I don't own the necessary adapter, but also because the 3DS version kinda prepped me for that button layout in the game. Also, I really don't have all that much trouble adjusting to new control schemes, in general.
Re: E-litre 3K Scope And Neo Splash-O-Matic Headed To Splatoon Tomorrow
Man... haven't played in a couple of weeks; gotta get back on board.
Re: Don't Worry, Samus Will Be In Metroid Prime: Federation Force
We already knew the headline statement, but I'm glad to see more official quotes about the game.
Re: Devil's Third is Being Published by Nintendo of America in Q4, Also Coming to PC as 'Free-to-Start' Title
@Mr_Zurkon This whole thing just keeps getting weirder. Now, it feels like he doesn't even care if the game performs well on Wii U, much less that Nintendo helped him get the project back on its feet.
Re: Devil's Third is Being Published by Nintendo of America in Q4, Also Coming to PC as 'Free-to-Start' Title
Not sure if brilliant or just crazy.
Re: Video: Summing Up The Good And Bad Of Devil's Third
Hey, look everyone! More damage control.
I can stand by this kind, though, even if I hate the way Alex talks.
Re: Negative Reception For Devil's Third Is Due To Poor Player Skill, Claims Tomonobu Itagaki
@ULTRA-64 No, not all that outrageous an assumption, but I really just don't know. Seems more like Nintendo would pull the plug entirely, than risk a "bad game forever" under their name.
Re: Negative Reception For Devil's Third Is Due To Poor Player Skill, Claims Tomonobu Itagaki
@ULTRA-64 Exactly! Don't feed the troll, you guys. Itagaki sounds like a brat with that statement; don't drop to the same level. It only fuels the mindless defenders.
I, meanwhile, will remain firmly on the fence until my butt starts hurting, or I get the chance to play it myself.
This all just seems so odd, because word was that Nintendo was super involved with Bayonetta 2, helping the game reach its full potential with pointers and such. And considering that they produced Ninja Gaiden 3, they're no strangers to chaotic, super-difficult action game design.
Something seems off that the big N is acting considerably less involved with this one, not to mention (I know that I'm a broken record with this point) the disconnect between regions. Europe and Japan seem to have no issues that anyone has mentioned, but NoA seems really cautious about releasing the game. As Nintendo is typically very unified in their approach to releasing only finished products, I really wonder what's going on inside this whole debacle.
Re: Negative Reception For Devil's Third Is Due To Poor Player Skill, Claims Tomonobu Itagaki
Oh, jeez. Here we go. The onslaught of comments has barely begun, methinks.
"Not the terrible, outdated game design, atrocious frame-rate, PS2-level visuals or dull, uninspiring boss battles..." Really, guys? You're getting all grumpy because Itagaki talks from an elitist point of view, something he has done throughout his entire career? I mean, I agree that his remarks were unnecessary, but don't go exaggerating your complaints, just because you're a little butthurt over some famous guy's remarks about player skill.
I feel the need to echo the comment above me, though perhaps with a little less hyperbole: that's not the mark of credible journalism.
I agree, though, that the man has never taken criticism well, and it's entirely possible that this attitude causes him to ignore actual, potential problems with his game. Even so, the point about your reaction to his statement stands firm.
@Einherjar As usual, I think that you've got the right idea.
Re: Genyo Takeda and Shigeru Miyamoto Share Belief That Satoru Iwata's Ideas "Will Make People Around the World Smile"
Ladies and gentlemen - Mr. Genyo Takeda.
It would have been amazing if a Dededoll had made its way there, but I guess there isn't an overwhelming amount of Japanese Brawl in the Family fans.
Re: Tomonobu Itagaki Explains Why the Pro Controller Trumps the GamePad in Devil's Third
Greeeaaat?
Re: Splatoon Splats Top 10 NPD Position in June as Hardware Momentum Stays Positive
That's top five, baby. Looking good.
Re: Interview: Senran Kagura Producer Kenichirō Takaki Bares All
@crimsontadpoles I'm right there with you. No personal interest in the series, but good for everyone who wants it that it's being released here, at all.
Re: Tengami Passes Nyamyam's Sales Targets on the Wii U eShop
I actually did enjoy this one, so I'm glad that they don't regret it, or whatever. I let my lady play it, since it's so rare that she directly participates, and I rightly assumed that she'd like it.
@Kimite Don't worry about time; this is a very short game.
Re: Rakoo & Friends is Racing Onto the Wii U eShop
What. Ever. The game is pretty enough, just not my style.
Re: Pokkén Tournament Launch Brings Hype and Début Trailer for Blaziken
Blaziken's voice sounds an awful lot like Ultraman.