It's no secret that the reaction to the reveal of Metroid Prime: Federation Force during E3 this year was somewhat negative. We even ran a talking point about the self-entitled fury which led to a petition demanding the cancellation of the game. As the petition now has over 22,000 supporters, it can safely be said that Metroid fans are feeling a little bit uneasy about the change in style for the Metroid Prime universe which this game represents.
In a recent interview with Nintendo's Kensuke Tanabe, the veteran developer discussed the anticipated negative reaction to the game's announcement:
First off, I had in mind and expected that people would sort of act in a negative way when they find out that Samus was not an actual player. What I see happening is that once the players can actually have hands-on experience with the actual game, they'll be able to understand and experience for themselves how the game actually feels and that the Metroid Prime universe atmosphere is there, and the music that is used in the game is also heavily related to the Prime series of course so while people would at first say, "oh this isn't what I expected," they'll definitely understand the different perspective that we're taking here and it'll certainly make a difference once you get some experience with the game.
While it's true that Samus won't be a playable character in the game, it has now been revealed that Samus will at least feature in the game in some way:
That's for sure. You will see her in some way. I feel like that's something nice about this game. It's kind of like a mix.
Does the revelation that Samus will feature Federation Force (albeit in super deformed style, we assume) make you feel a bit more positive about this upcoming title on Nintendo's slate? As always, sound off with a comment below.
[source cgmagonline.com]
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sigh You could hit these dorks with a scorching hot frying pan, and all they could think about is how a cold frying pan would hurt more, despite the burns in their faces...
It'll probably just be her ship flying off right before the player's group. Something small like that.
As long as this is meant as a prequel to Prime 4, I'm fine with it.
I still stand by my belief that the one of the key reasons everyone was so annoyed by the reveal of this game is just how little was shown to us during the E3 presentation. We were give a short 1 minute video that showed us nothing but the fact that the game was being made. It felt disrespectful on every level that such a small amount of information was given to us after 5 years of waiting.
All I want is to know more about the game, that's all.
Nice joke with the title, as you don't perfectly know that this will make all the "worried" fans even more worried >.>
(And I didn't know that "worry" was a synonym of "ultra enraged").
Personally, I don't understand why they're going so far out of their way to connect it to the "Metroid Prime" trilogy. As far as we know, this game has no connection to the actual Metroid Prime after which the trilogy was named, so wouldn't it be simpler to just call it part of the Metroid universe and drop the "Prime" moniker from the title? While the same could also be said about "Metroid Prime: Hunters," at least that game starred the various extra bounty hunters who appeared in "Corruption." Then again, for all we know there could be a relevant story connection, but it does seem strange to me from what little we know so far.
They're gonna take a giant-sized BeetleBorg lookin dump, and have the nerve to call it Samus...smh...we just want 2.5 Metroid...why cant u understand?!
I thought we've known this since E3.
I never played the prime series (even though I have the trilogy on WiiU) so this kinda goes over my head. I'll prob pick this up though. When is it out in Europe? Next year?
The haters can hate, this is a game I wanted
I feel like the online hate has cocooned and people are now curious about what the game actually offers
I feel this might have been shoehorned in to appease the disgruntled gamers.
As @Zip said, if this was a prequel to Prime 4, that would be cool. Maybe we'll see her at the end?
Sorry. Still not interested.
This could not be farther from what I want from metroid.
Sorry to say that I'm not overly as interested in the Metroid universe, as much as I'm interested in Tales of Samus.
You ditched a 2D/2.5D Metroid for this crap, yeah, howabout no.
@BulbasaurusRex i kinda dont get that either i guess cuz those prime games were popular so they wanted to feel some connection to it or something
adding samus now is a bad idea its fueling the hate ppl had.... cuz when they see her ugly chibi style ppl will rage again
well i was hugely dissapointed at first, but now its getting a bit more interesting
No, still not going to buy it. This is like those The legend of Zelda CDi games..ignore that they existed.
I never knew about the petition. The Metroid fanbase, IMHO, can be the worst fanbase for any Nintendo franchise. They expect too much from a new game before it's announced, then gripe when it doesn't have what they wanted before it's even released. Case in point: Ridley's absence from the Smash Bros. roster, even after Sakurai explained the reasoning behind it.
Stupid that people are petitioning this. The SD style does need a change though. It's ugly as heck and looks like an NDS game. stretch them vertically ugh...
They said this during E3, so it's not a change related to the reception.
http://mynintendonews.com/2015/06/17/samus-will-make-an-appearance-in-metroid-prime-federation-force-producer-tanabe-reveals/
Samus hologram was seen already in the E3 build, so I think they have had a cameo appearence in mind for a while.
Yeah, gonna buy this when it launches next year.
I was never as disappointed as some of the other people about this game. I am ok with trying something new and if we give this game a chance I am pretty much positive that people will realize that this game isn't the horrible game nobody wanted but is instead a solid game in its own right.
@KFlow325 man. yes.
All I was talking about before E3 was how sure there would be a 2.5 metroid announced for the 3ds along with the revelation of an upcoming 1st person wii u metroid game. we even tought there would be like a special wii u edition in the form of a morph ball with lights and stuff. HOW WRONG can we be at that point. never, ever build up expectation out of nothing.
I've never seen so many people cry about a just announced game as I have this one. It might not line up with your own fanfic or made up image of what they should try out next with Metroid, but how do you know it's going to be so terrible? I know it's been too long since we have gotten an official, regular Metroid game, but the reactions I have seen have just been childish.
At the end, she'll be at the end of the game. You'll play through, your mission will fail, she'll call you an idiot and then do the mission but without you or you playing her.
Despite at first being disappointed, only because it was what I wasn't what I was expecting/hoping for, still I'm generally excited to get my hands on this.
And it seems I'm the only one :/ geez people, time to get over it, you too NL.
Im asumeing theres going to be a Home Hub (mabe GFS Vhalhala or something) where you get to run about as your Bobbleheaded Fediration trooper id asume samus to be standing about there or as thay hinted at theres a mission with metroids.. so samus may come in and save you witch will be odd... as she will probably need a mech too otherwise she will be allot smaller.
Oh... i just thaght what if its a Escort mission... i hate thows so mutch...
@locky-mavo Im also excited for it and plan on Pre Ordering it when its up for Pre Order.... personly im hopeibg for Amiibo suport.. mabe custom skins and theamd wepons for your mech would be nice... also i wouldnt mind a Amiibo Eddition Similar to what ChibiRobo is getting so we can get a Galactic Fediration Truper.. mech.. Amiibo lol
I'm quite amused by the fact that every time I see articles where Tanabe tries to reassure Metroid fans, the comments are only filled with more complaints about the game. Would be very wise to give this game a demo.
@Taikasieni, This is nothing like those Zelda CD-i games, nor will it ever be. Just because Nintendo didn't give you what you wanted, doesn't mean this game is on par with those CD-i games. This game will be decent to great. NLG has a proven track record and Nintendo is helping out with it, so it CAN'T be atrociously bad.
Those CD-i games are simply atrocious, terrible cutscenes, terrible voice acting, terrible graphics, terrible artwork, terrible platforming, terrible gameplay mechanics, terrible story. Just go watch the Wand of Camelon videos or Faces of Evil, or Zelda's Adventure. Nintendo has zero input into those games, and it shows, they are absolute trash.
Federation Force will play well, and be an entertaining game, but just not be what you want.
@Whopper744 Agreed i understand some of the complaints but most of them are totaly pittyfull
I only have 2 complains 1 is the visuals... witch is rare for me to be negativ over and the 2nd is what was sed in a interviue.. "There is 3 planets with 10 missions eatch" Thats only 30 missions... thats never going to last specialy for a Multyplayer baced game (well even if it was solo but still) Looking at Monster Hunter i think thatd have been a far better way to go.. have X amount of Set Maps then loads of missions with difrnt gols in the maps Im hopeing theray up the mission count Be it DLC or Update.
Still not interested.
I hate when they start using the word "understand" to defend when something is viewed negatively. I'm not a moron.
We already knew the headline statement, but I'm glad to see more official quotes about the game.
@locky-mavo, you aren't alone, I'm looking forward to this game. It's different but it's gives a bit more life and depth to the Metroid universe. I would love for Samus' cameo to be for her to come in and destroy everything for us, since you know she's badass, and we are just elite Federation troopers. That would be awesome!
I still want to give it a chance. It's from the people who made one of my favorite 3DS games: Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon. I mean I don't care if it's "not what I was expecting" as long as it's fun.
@locky-mavo Yeah same here (and the "not what I was expecting" comment wasn't directed at you. It's just what I've been hearing a lot of).
do not need Samus in this game. I hope if they use her its meaningful, and not a cameo.
Personally I'm really looking forward to this one
Well, if you consider the game is in Metroid Prime universe, obviously the main character of the series will make a cameo, it's bound to happen. The question is of course, whether the role she played in the game is significant or just as some easter eggs.
Regardless, I hope the game reception can turn around a bit once new information is revealed.
I was excited for Federation Force before this news and this just makes it better.
The more I hear about Zelda Triforce Heroes, the more I want it. The opposite happens with Metroid Prime FF.
I just want to know what Retro Studios is working on. I don't care about Next Level games, their boring resume, or this game.
Somehow, I don't think this revelation is going to stop the haters.
I'm still not interested in this game since the gameplay looks unappealing to me. Still, more gameplay footage would be useful since they haven't shown very much yet.
The more I think about it, the more I realise that this game will likely be the exact opposite of Other M.
That is to say, Other M was hotly anticipated, due to its flashy trailers that truly made us all think that we were in for a treat. That game turned out to be an utter atrocity (mindless defenders notwithstanding).
Now, here we are looking at excessive fanboy backlash for Federation Force being a spin-off game (and I'll admit that I'd prefer a mainline Metroid title, as well) with a chunky aesthetic and not outright starring Samus. And watch it end up super highly rated due to Next Level Games' expertise in crafting experiences with finely tuned, focused mechanics. I'll betcha betcha.
Whatever the result, I personally trust Next Level, ever since Punch-Out!! on the Wii. Fantastic game, that, and since my initial reaction to Blasted Blue Balls has more or less subsided, I'll give the developer the benefit of the doubt. We'll see whose expectations hold up, in the end.
This really isn't a revelation or anything new. Stephen Totilo at Kotaku interviewed Tanabe back in June (story was published on 6/17/2015). Here is the relevant part:
Tanabe and I kept talking. We talked about the timeline. The game takes place, as the other Primes did, between Metroid II and Super Metroid, in a sort of sideways expansion of the Prime trilogy’s era.
We talked about Samus Aran and whether she’s in Federation Force: “You’ll be able to see her somewhere in the game.”
Single player must be rewarding and complete. I'm staying away if this is a "better with friends" title.
Articles like this really show how pathetic NintendoLife users are; boo-hoo, the game isn't how you pictured it—get over it!
This is so silly. This is going to be a fun game.
@BulbasaurusRex I think that its due to the game using the 1st-person perspective as the Prime Trilogy, rather than than their stories being related.
Still not a fan.
I'm still positive the game will be better than Other M (as in, anything's better than that disappointment of a core Metroid title).
Still no. Take down the l*ving game.
Between periods during Blast Ball, Samus will come out and blow up 10,000 copies of Other M.
I've said before and I'll say it again but why does anyone care if Samus is in it? It's just an excuse for wanting a Prime-like game.
@Taikasieni Quit your crying
It would be nice if they have her saving the troopers or something. After Other M, all I really want is a sign that they do in fact "get" who Samus is and how to portray her.
I think Extra Credits talk about a Hard Boiled Detective character is more along what I wanted a talking Samus to be like. "Unflappable; sarcastic; taking pride in [her] work; a [gal] who can take a beating and give one" Doesn't that sound right?
Since I'm on this train of thought, the Super Mario Adventures comic is still the best way to have a talking Mario in his core series. Light-hearted and a bit goofy, but when it's hero time, he's all in. Thus far, they've always had him a silent protagonist, but the writing in RPGs hold up that they know what they're doing should the time come.
Link... is harder. For one thing, each Link is unique so there could be a suite different personalities to bear the mantle (something I wouldn't mind if they ever took this road). Overall, I see the typical adult Link as Hyrule's Captain America (MCU).
Just like how Mario Teaches Typing isn't in the Mushroom Kingdom canon, FF isn't in the Metroid canon. Based on the gameplay I've seen, FF feels like they took a working demo someone was hammering out and shelved and put into production. My guess is it's because the heavy hitter teams are working on NX games right now and they needed something to sell/show for E3. This reeks "throwaway title!"
Just ignore the game and move on.
@Taikasieni How do you know the game is bad before it has even came out yet?
@Whopper744 ^This. I don't see why the Metroid fanbase can't be happy we're finally getting a co-op Prime game. Up until now a bunch of other Nintendo franchises got a co-op game: Mario (both 2D and 3D), Zelda, Kirby, so why not Metroid? Any time Nintendo tries to be creative, the fanboys go ape-you-know-what-crazy!
Why is everyone freaking out over this game again? I get it Samus isn't in this game, but seriously, a petition to cancel the game (and as far as I know), the only gameplay we saw was blast ball? I haven't played any prime games yet, but am currently playing the NES Metroid game to start with, but many of you don't even seem like you're giving this game a chance, and all because Samus isn't in it. Does her not being playable in the game seriously automatically make the game trash? You guys like sonic fanboys right now who hate anything but classic sonic no matter what. You should at least give the game a chance before saying it sucks.
I don't give a flying fark about whether or not Samus is in the game. That's a non-issue to me. In fact I WOULD welcome a game about the troopers as Prime 3 made me want to see more of them. However this game is just. Plain. UGLY.
It's not even a matter of this being an "art-style" or a case of gameplay over graphics. The game. Is ugly.
And if we were to speak of the style, it just doesn't fit with the Prime name at all. Reggie comparing it to Wind Waker was an incredibly stupid move. I know he was trying to say that it'll be a game that will be appreciated for its visual style later, but it won't. Zelda was a series that already had experience in cartoony or at least non-dark situations. Even if expectations were high for a darker looking game, the game could be appreciated later since its visuals were designed to look good for a long time, were CHARMING, and because it wasn't a completely alien concept for a Zelda game.
With Metroid (especially Prime series) the games were always dark. Even if they wanted to try something lighter, they should've gone for some truly stylized graphics like what EX Troopers had. What they have here is a kiddy-looking N64 game that they're making in 2015, before realizing they were supposed to make a 3DS game and then started haphazardly slapping specular maps on EVERYTHING.
With the gameplay, it'll no doubt be fun like many Nintendo games, but as a co-op shooting game it looks generic and uninspired. You're better off with almost any other co op shooter. Heck, it'll likely be better to buy 2 or 3 copies of Lost Planet 2 for yourself and a friend or 2 than one copy of this game.
@LilC
The main game was shown at E3.
It's not the lack of Samus that I have a problem with, it's the lack of EVERYTHING that makes Metroid, well, Metroid. The puzzels, the isolation, the tension, the seriousness. This has none of them.
This game is Metroid in name only.
@Rect_Pola
I could see her being the tough as nails bounty hunter who can take care of herself but also isn't afraid to use her pretty looks to get the mission done. (Gotta use every tool at her use)
please leave Samus out of this atrociousness...''Make a 2.5 3D ode to Super Metroid or give me death!'' Patrick Henry vc
Well made game? Maybe, next level job.
Game that represents metroid? Nope.
Good looking game? For the N64 era definit- oh wait. This is on the handheld that gave us kid Icarus uprising 4 years ago.
Ever play with those marvel superhero toys that had arms longer than their bodies? Yeah, that's what this game looks like.
No I'm not a guy that obssesses over looks, but come on, they can do better than that.
"We even ran a talking point about the self-entitled fury which led to a petition demanding the cancellation of the game."
I like how Darren includes self-entitled in the article, as if he's just brushing all 22,000 people off with a demeaning smirk. That triggers me.
Joking aside, I actually am looking forward to the game, as the MonHun didn't pull me or my friend in, something like this might do it for us.
Nope, Prime 4 or no buy for me. Try again, Nintendo.
It looks really souless
As soon as I saw more game play I got excited about this game. I don't mind that sams isn't in it because I immediately knew it was a different perspective. Can't wait for this. I hope the lore fits in somewhere with the other Metroid games.
I got all excited for a second thinking we were actually getting more news about this, but as others have said, this is old information. I'm pretty sure it's even been posted here before.
That said I'm still stoked for this game. E3 put this game at my number three most anticipated Nintendo game with only Star Fox Zero and Fire Emblem Fates above it and bumping Xenoblade Chronicles X and The Legend of Zelda down to fifth and sixth. Good days ahead of us, folks.
I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up being the anti-Other M when it comes out for pretty much the same reason @Genesaur said. It would also be funny that the game that focus the least on Samus does way better than the game that focus the most on her.
I was actually excited for this title when it was revealed.
Let me guess. Most of the comments are going to be about people hating it? (Looks at comments) YEP. Anyways, we already knew about this since E3. This isn't really new. Oh, and as for those of who want this cancelled: What exactly would that even do? Do you honestly think that this not existing would suddenly make Metroid Prime 4 appear out of thin air? I can understand you being a bit dissapointed, but I think you're overreacting just a little.
It seems to me that they just slapped the Metroid Prime banner on the game so that it would sell better. More like an after thought than anything else...
You know what you be cool. I though this in my head but what if she's your enemy she would be a boss or something because I though the FF and Samus were enemis. But if I'm wrong the oh well 😐Still really excited about this game. Im playing all the prime games 100% for the first time. Loving the series 😆
@BulbasaurusRex Uhh, Prime Hunters didn't have any hunters from Prime 3. For Prime Hunters, there was Trace, Sylux, and some others I can't remember. For Prime 3, it was Gandrayda, Rundas, and Ghor.
The absence of Samus was never even a concern to me. This game has other problems.
Samus not being playable isn't terribly high on my list of concerns. Show me explorable levels and more iconic abilities and then we'll talk. That's the real issue here, not that you can't play as Samus, but that they're avoiding making a good exploration based FPS. As long as they fail to understand that the Metroid fanbase will never accept FF for what it is.
What Nintendo either doesn't understand or fails to recognize, is that the fan anger is based less on what this games is or us not and more based on them announcing this and not a sequel to any known Metroid series. People would have been much more welcoming if either a sequel to Prime or Super Metroid had been announced in tandem with this game. I don't have a preference to 2D or 3D Metroid as long as they make another one and soon. Nintendo do waits far to long between releases of games not titled Mario.
I'm really disappointed that there is not a 3DS or Wii U version of a true Metriod title coming out anytime soon ESPECIALLY A 3DS METRIOD TITLE AT THIS POINT Would be AWESOME , Yet I think this title looks fun and I'm really interested with the online play it's definitely on my list of titles I'm wanting to get .
The problem I think is not that Samus is not the main character, the problem I think is that this is technically the Triforce Heroes version of Metroid which would be ok if we already had a proper Metroid game. You don't give snacks to people in a restaurant and expect they be happy when they went there for the main course.
Also while I don't have a beef with the art style I do have a beef with graphics, this looks like a DS game, Jesus we are already 3 years into the 3DS life I expect better.
There has been so much drama surrounding this game... I just want it to come out and have people realize it's probably going to be a fine game. I'm planning on picking it up myself. I get that it's not what people expected, but petitioning to cancel the game is going a bit far. I'd rather have a game that I didn't expect than no game at all.
Problem never was about Samus not being in the game. It's about nintendo fans noticing we're being scammed when they <improved> the Metroid franchise by name-droping into the title of a game that was never meant to be a part of the Metroid series. It's just too obvious they did it thinking it would sell more. Fans felt alienated by this because it is not the way nintendo treats their fans. Same with <quality> games like Animal Crossing amiibo festival, instead of making a full game which is what fans expected, they try to sell us this mini-game built to capitalize on amiibo's popularity, which would be fine as long as they continue to treat their fans with respect
Ever since Metroid Prime 2, I always thought Nintendo should make a game just like this. Only I imagined it as a console release and not a chibi style portable game.
I have it preordered anyway.
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@Bolt_Strike To be completely fair, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is pretty comparable to Federation Force. Neither have anything to do with the main series games and lack core elements of the franchise.
@ShaunOfNintendo I think its the Mii-ish artstyle plus the nail in the coffin for hopes of a Wii U Metroid Prime that upset everyone. Imagine if Gears of War 4 was anounced at E3 as a Windows Phone game with an artstyle that resmebles the Xbox avatars.
I do not want to see Samus in this artstyle. :/
Reeks of fan service. Nintendo have another stinker on their hands. Why don't they put the Villager in Devil's Third too?
@IceClimbers Those two spinoffs are not at all comparable. Mystery Dungeon is actually very similar to the main series, the core mechanics are all there, you just progress through the game differently. Federation Force has nothing in common with the main games except for it being in first person and having Missiles and Super Missiles.
Either way though, that is entirely the problem here, the fanbase is waiting for a return to the exploration based gameplay that Nintendo has refused to give us for the last 8 years. Problem is that's what the IP is about in the first place, so the decreasing sales and negative reception are their own fault.
Suddenly I wish Samus was not in the game.
I like how everyone is taking an E3 demo, which frequently have content not in the final product, and drawing conclusions from it. "It's not going to be exploration based gameplay!!!", "It's not Metroid!!!", "Metroid's about isolation".
First, there very well could be exploration play in the game. Second, it's set in the Metroid expanded universe (a side-step of the Prime series as the creator put it) so it is in fact Metroid. Metroid is an alien species, not a main character.
Finally, who is to say that there will not be isolation? One thing Nintendo seems to do well is co-op play puzzles. I easily picture them arranging things so that a single team member has go down a isolated path into danger to allow the entire team to progress. Add in voice chat to hear your teammate's screams as he is killed, before the door of dread opens to allow the next victim in.
If there really is substantial content linking this game to the Metroid Prime series, why wasn't that shown to begin with? It seems more likely that they saw all the criticism of the game, and the developers are working to make this into a game more deserving of being under the Metroid Prime label. Even if what they say is true, and they aren't just lying to cover their reputation, they at least did a very poor job showing off the game. First impressions are a thing.
@Volmun "Star Wars: Rogue Squadron 2: Rogue Leader" only has 15 missions (10 in the main campaign, 1 tutorial mission, and 4 bonus missions), and that's a great game without any complaints about its length. 30 missions in this game sounds like plenty to me.
@greengecko007 This was in information that appeared in interviews with other sites that took place during E3. I was more than a little surprised to see this headline this morning as I thought this was already a known factor. Here is another relevant part of the June 17th interview I referenced before:
Totilo: I see what you’re saying. But, just to stay with this a little bit longer, I think for a lot of people, it feels as if, for example: Mr. Miyamoto and Mr. Tezuka, they make Super Mario games and people are used to Super Mario games. And imagine if there wasn’t a new Super Mario game for eight years or forever how long it’s been. For the next Mario game to be, say, Mario Tennis, people would say: Aren’t you still making the Mario side-scrollers? Aren’t you still making the 3D Mario games? And that’s what I’m hearing from a lot of my own readers today. They say: This is interesting, but where is our Metroid? Where is our Samus Aran adventure? And I think that they’re worried that Nintendo isn’t interested in making that. Do you have anything you can say to those people?
Tanabe: Personally, I don’t feel like I am creating anything that is a side-story. Until now, we’ve never had a game focusing on the Federation Force fighting against the space pirates. So the main idea here is that I sort of wanted to change that focus a little bit and see it from a different view from the same universe. So as I briefly mentioned earlier, once you play the game you’ll be able to feel that Metroid Prime universe. So it’s kind of... at this point it’s a little difficult I’m sure for both sides to get that idea...
@Darknyht The thing is that the initial reveal is supposed to convey to the audience the main idea behind the gameplay. If they show us gameplay that isn't exploration based, that means either that exploration isn't a priority in the game or it's not there at all. So yes, it is legitimate for people to complain about the game not resembling Metroid enough at this point, it means that there's a problem with the game's entire direction.
The problems people have with Federation Force have nothing to do with if Samus is in the game at all or not, it's, among other things, that the game seems to be a much, much, much less mature Metroid game, yet is using the Metroid Prime title.
King Dodongo at 1:28 in the vid.ß:♭
...Way to miss the point, nintendo. Samus isn't the problem! The problem is the GAMEPLAY! We go eight years without a good metroid game, and you gave us a mission-based FPS lacking in metroidvania elements!
Miyamoto-san and his generation of game developers must love that they missed the internet during their early creative days. It's rough sledding in the 21st century with the net and social media. Those poor guys must read or hear awful stuff. Personally, I'm passing on the game as it isn't for me, but to suggest the game should stop development or that creative types shouldn't be creative, is just silly. Peeps are too worked up about this game. Show them how you feel with your wallet. Don't buy the game or buy the game. In the meantime, don't be so nasty!
@Darknyht I honestly hadn't seen that, but even that vague response seems iffy. What else is he going to say? "No, this game has nothing to do with Metroid Prime and we're just using the label for our game"? If it really exists within that universe, it should be obvious. Best case scenario, they really did intend for this to be related to Metroid Prime and just did a very poor job showing off their game.
@Nintendofan83 If you ask me, Miyamoto and company aren't creative enough. The majority of their games this generation fall into two categories: rehashes of existing gameplay styles and spinoffs that abuse the parent brands. Barring Splatoon, which let's remember was a side project, they haven't done anything truly groundbreaking in a good 7 or 8 years. What were they planning on doing with the Wii U Gamepad? I haven't seen anything that properly utilizes it or uses it to create new experiences. What's especially irritating about this is that Metroid could very well be the IP to take advantage of the Gamepad but Nintendo doesn't want anything to do with the main series this gen.
@allav866 Dude, you can't compare the consequences that another bad Metroid game could have on the franchise with Mario or Zelda. If those franchises get a bad game, their popularity is so huge that they would easily survive. However, Metroid is somewhat struggling to survive despite having so many great games because it's nowhere near the popularity of the other two. I wouldn't like it to disappear if this game fails.
I get that fans are assuming too much (I honestly don't think they are the worse) and that the game can turn out, but you've got to admitt that choosing a chibi style and presenting the game as somekind of soccer game were really stupid ideas. They could have shown the space pirate footage, not that. Besides, the people that talked about thatplayed the soccer part of the game didn't have positive impressions.
About Ridley not being on Smash becauseof it's size, I find that reason to be a pretty lame excuse. Everyone knows that some of the characters of the game don't have the size they should have and even so, they are toys, not the actual characters. I don't think many people would care about Ridley having a proper size, specially because he changes size on every game. It's not like they are asking for Kraid, wich is always huge. Even if that's such a big problem, they could have added another character from Metroid like one of the bounty hunters. They didn' tbase their choices on their popularity since Greninja wasn't known really well at that point and it managed to become a playable character.
Having said that, I just wish that this game turns out to be really good. It did look fun in the co-op footage against the space pirates. I get the negative reaction it got, though.
@allav866 Nah man, Zelda fans can be worse. Much, much worse.
Metroid fans haven't had the best of times for the past 5 years. Other M wasn't exactly a stellar entry, cancelled games like Dread and the untitled 3DS game have been dug up, and now the wildcard that is Federation Force is, as far as we know, all that's coming in 2016 with the Metroid name. Can you blame the fans?
Meanwhile Zelda fans flourish in multiple titles every year; something that just started happening in recent years, yet still aren't satisfied...
I honestly can't wait for this game to come out and be a solid 8/10 so everyone can shut up already...
This is why I don't get my expectations impossibly high.
Like, seriously, I go into E3 and Directs expecting no more than information on previously announced titles. Any new reveals are surprises to me and I want to learn more. Have there been games I hadn't been interested in? Of course, but it's still nice to have an optimistic approach as opposed to getting upset that the [strong]specific game I wanted didn't show up[/em].
...and for the record, I like Other M. Is it the best game ever? No. Is it the best Metroid ever? Hell no. Is it a functional and fun game? In my opinion, yes. If it was called anything other than "Metroid" I guarantee it'd be an obscure Wii gem.
I think some what negative it's being a little generous
@BulbasaurusRex Those are key words you used "as far as we know". For all we know it can have an important connection to the Prime games.
Samus can be found in the game banging her head against a wall saying "what did I do to deserve this?!?!"
I kid. Who knows this game could turn out to be a pleasant surprise.
If it is single player focused, I'll pick it up. I dont care for mostly multiplayer games
I dunno, I was actually interested in this game. I had no interest as to whether it was a Metroid game or not, it just looked cool to me. I'm just curious if any information has been released as to whether it requires a New 3DS to play, or can I still use my XL? And if so, how would the controls work? (probably stylus in absence of the nintendo nipple)
Samus was in Super Mario RPG, or as I like to call it "Metroid Prime: Mushroom Kingdom Force"
@MasterBombad Uh...wut?
2011: OoT 3D, Skyward Sword
2012: none
2013: Wind Waker HD, ALbW
2014: none
2015: Majora's Mask 3D, Tri-Force Heroes
Half of these are remakes too
If Metroid games were released fairly regularly I'd be cool with 4-player shooter spin-off without Samus Aran. But when they are few and far between, a spin-off game seems like a strange Idea. I dunno, I always thought the 3DS would be perfect for a 2.5D solo Samus adventure.
Oh wow! Now I'm sold!
Kappa
@LztheQuack Fine, every other year. That's still miles better than:
2010: Metroid Other M
2011: none
2012: none
2013: none
2014: none
2015: none
2016: Metroid Prime Federation Force
Getting games released at a steady rate is better than nothing at all. Remakes can be great for people who want to experience them again, or for the first time. We could've easily gotten a Metroid II remake, or a collection of the 2D games within that time span. It surely would've satisfied a good portion of fans.
A insane backlash, considering it's a sequel to the Samus-less Metroid Prime: Hunters.
@firstnesfan There is a sequel to Super Metroid already, didn't you hear?
What I want is a sequel to Metroid Fusion, because now that Samus IS the last Metroid, you can just label the game The Metroid and make it about her fighting off bounty hunters gunning for her, among other things.
You got space for character development, as Fusion didn't delve into what the fusion did to her besides her immediate survival (nor did it ever show her out-of-costume post-fusion), you got a shifted conflict point, you DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ANY MORE INTERQUELS NOW, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'm sorry NL, but you need to drop the 'self-entitled' tag that you are labelling upset fans with. Federation Force looks like complete garbage and is offense to those of us who support Nintendo and their products.
@Peach64
No, they made that statement after the initial outrage. It was just an attempt to pacify the fanbase that they knowingly pissed off. Reggie says Nintendo knows we want a game starring Samus, so why the hell hasn't there been one in six years?
@roy130390 Well, I don't see what people see in Ridley, he's just a barbaric space dragon, whose backstory is only explained in a non-canon manga, but he'd definitely be a better candidate than any of the bounty hunters from Metroid Prime: Hunters. @MasterBombad I can definitely acknowledge that Zelda fans such as myself have been spoiled rotten by Nintendo, to where a good number of them were upset at Zelda U's absence from E3, despite the unexpected announcements for 2 3DS games (for the record, I didn't expect any Zelda announcements and would've been okay if the series was completely absent from E3, just knowing that Zelda U will be shown at some point later). Still, they've never had a petition with 22,000 signatures to have a game cancelled, either.
I find that the fact a petition like that even exists is a testament to how bad the fanbase has gotten, especially when they complained the last time a Metroid game was cancelled, and now they'd rather have another cancelled game than give this new game a chance.
@TromboneGamer We have known about it since then, it's just that the noise has been drowning it out. This is the internet, where everyone overreacts without paying attention to important details and putting words into other people's mouths.
@allav866 Well again, Metroid's status as been unstable since 2010. Most just want to see a return to form sooner rather than later.
Spin-offs are fine, but we need another main series entry that wasn't released 5 years ago to compliment it. Something like Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland wasn't released after 5 years of nothing.
I'll give you the petition, that's going too far. But let me ask you this: how many Zelda games (CD-i ones notwithstanding) have been considered "bad", or at least on the same level of mixed opinions like Other M?
Zelda fans have it pretty good from what I see.
@MasterBombad It hardly seems fair to compare a fanbase whose first game in a good while is a co-op game to a fanbase that's spoiled to hell with how many games they get. Neither is a perfect fanbase, but they're way too different. Try comparing the Metroid fanbase to something more relatable, like the F-Zero fanbase. I can't remember which came last, GX or GP Legend, but it's been much longer than 5 years, and all Nintendo has produced for F-Zero was a minigame in Nintendoland (which was vastly inferior to the hectic multiplayer Metroid minigame) and a couple of DLC tracks and some other minor content in a non-F-Zero antigravity racer. If anything, the F-Zero fanbase has received less love than the Metroid fanbase, and have more reason to riot than the Metroid fans, yet there was never a petition to have Mario Kart 8 cancelled, or have its antigravity physics removed, or there was and I never heard of it because it didn't receive many signatures.
@allav866 I agree with F-Zero fans being worse off. But the sad fact is that Nintendo doesn't seem to think its worth bringing back. Hopefully that will change in the future, as I'm a fan as well.
The main reason why I compare fans is because during the days after E3, I saw so many people belittling Metroid fans who were upset about FF. People saying offhand things like "deal with it", "stop whining", "at least you're getting something", etc. Meanwhile new Mario and Zelda games were revealed with positive reception.
Why are Metroid fans suddenly being perceived as bottom feeders who should be grateful for anything, when not too long ago we had gotten a trilogy of some of the best games in the past decade? That's what I'd like to know.
Metroid has been apart of the "big three" forever; pioneering gaming and setting standards in the industry. Its seems that it could slowly be veering off into the territory of dormant franchises like F-Zero.
Metroid deserves better than that, all the well-known franchises deserve better than that.
@MasterBombad I can definitely agree with that. I can not for the life of me understand why Miyamoto thinks F-Zero needs a new controller. The GamePad works great in MK8, even with motion controls in 200cc, so what makes F-Zero so different? I could go on, but this is old news, and there's nothing left to say about it.
@ShaunOfNintendo some people are mad because they think the main game is the soccer mode and clearly did not watch the entire trailer. Although your point is very valid we did not get much to go on, but that's kind of the point? To leave in you in wonder and anticipation.
@Mogster The game looks like metroid prime, albeit a little more cartoony and with more chiby and we've seen a little under a minute of gameplay. I'm sure you're right though and that the game, that we've only glimpsed at, is going to be complete and utter garbage.
@roy130390 I don't think they really showed the soccer portion in the trailer off as the main game, also ridley would function a lot like a deformed mew two in smash brothers. Slow, but can fly also what would dictate how long ridley can fly since he's a dragon and doesn't exactly get tired like kirby or jiggly puff. Also you're right in the fact that his size does change a lot, but he's still huge compared to samus. What would his attacks be? How would his character move from place to place? Does he walk or does he use his wings to give him a boost across the map? I'm sure the reason they never added ridley was because they just didn't think of it, but he would be an awkward addition to the cast of playable smash characters.
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