General impressions I've gotten is that there's a pretty fun core in there with... some roughness around the edges, so I'm happy it sounds like they're planning to stick to that formula for a bit and make it better now that they've got a base to work from.
Hope Pokémon can do the same thing instead of randomly taking some steps back because they had to start working on the next one before they could take any lessons from the last one :/
Twilight Princess is a solid game that’s not nearly as obsessed with being dark and edgy as it looks on the tin once you actually get a ways into it. Probably for the best they swung hard away from that-but-even-more, but good times.
The ship was the part of the first trailer where I absolutely lost my mind... ridiculously hyped now seeing ship exploration and battles. Hooting and hollering, like Partitio.
That'd... probably fix about every problem I had with it during the demo. Though I was starting to come around on the loop of "do your chores ASAP and then try to progress the dungeon far enough to unlock shortcuts for next time" ... but I don't think it'll suffer too much from a little extra time to move around.
@Gracetrack From what I've heard, Chrono Trigger had a pretty rough development that didn't come together until the end, and the Dream Team was largely a marketing gimmick. But there probably has been some over-correction; the DQ and FF influences are obvious, and Toriyama's character design is, of course, even more so. A shame CT has to come up in contention for the release of two much more obscure games.
What I'd most want out of an Octopath 2 is stories brought together a little more by the end of the game itself, I think, rather than only really being connected by the post-game. Let the game acknowledge other characters are there in the latter parts! Oh, and maybe an airship.
I'm just lazy. Keep meaning to get around to it eventually but have been busy with tons of other games, and an official release would at least give me a reminder (maybe toplay the fan translation instead anyway!)
@Shredderlovespizza As someone who generally just plays turn-based stuff, Neo TWEWY's my favorite take on action RPG with way too many characters, because it takes it down to one button (of your choice, based on which move you equipped) to switch characters and use their move ... and then eventually you get up to 6 buttons to press and it's ridiculous but somehow just manageable, and it feels great when it works.
Atlus knows they've been pretty niche, they're absolute masters of getting as much style as possible for as cheaply as possible, no way very good sales broke the bank.
@RubyCarbuncle People here are voicing their objections against paying $60 for a 9-year-old remaster of a 20-year-old game. And, fair!
But I never got to play Wind Waker. So as hard of an ask as $60 is... I'm definitely not paying $90 to play the original on my Wii. And that disc was a killer deal compared to other prices I've seen! (I still curse my past self for not looking harder for it years ago - and also not picking up a Wii copy of Prime Trilogy when I saw it on shelves, before everyone started caring about Metroid again.)
It's possible buying a used Wii U and getting it on the e-Shop might actually come out to less than that. Still probably over $60, though... for one game.
So if Nintendo actually wants my money, they should probably just move it over to the Switch as well. And everyone who's already played it - well, they don't have to buy it again!
Really weird they haven't been rushing to change up wildly selling kids' games.
Man, growing up on Wii and PC, BotW was my first time having to deal with camera controls. I'm sure kids these days can handle it, but it's easy to forget how much of a jump that is for people not used to it. I think that's more why they stuck with fixed views for so long than anything.
Would love to be catered to more, but ultimately I'm not the main audience. There's plenty of meatier RPGs out there; Pokémon is, more than anything, a gateway.
From what I've heard, despite all the fancy graphics... this and 0.2 might've been the easiest ports, since they're made in Unreal instead of PS2-specific nonsense; wild they missed so hard on all of this.
I get the impression that OG VII's fine - pretty good, even! - but has gotten so hyped up and sort of become a baseline that it doesn't have a hope of impressing new players nearly as much.
Big RPG year for me.Took me 48 hours this year to beat Final Fantasy IX (I think it's on sale again now, and absolutely worth the sale price!) and 43 hours hasn't even seen me to the end of Neo TWEWY.
Surprised - but very happy - Neo TWEWY made it to the top 10 here. Sad it didn't sell better - I think it's super underrated - but easily my personal GOTY!
Then again, the only other things I've really played were Metroid Dread (have enjoyed what little I've played so far, but had trouble keeping at it) and Animal Crossing 2.0, so hardly an exhaustive list
@EliteXeos It literally was, and they weren't? About as neutral as here, really, with commenters chiming in about how greedy and arrogant Xecuter had gotten - enough even the rest of the hacking community was kind of glad to see them go: https://kotaku.com/1847979149
Kotaku has its problems, absolutely, but so much of the hate I see for it seems so disconnected from anything real. It's not gonna kill anyone (okay, maybe the excess number of ads legitimately might! ) to occasionally see the articles themselves instead of repeating a whole mythos mostly based on some particularly awful headlines getting bounced around social media.
This was first announced a good bit back, so there is a blog that probably has a bit more details on the gameplay, for anyone looking. https://www.cassettebeasts.com/
Think there was a first reveal trailer floating around a while back, too.
@mazzel That was at least in the original, just cut out of the English version. Guess they figured they couldn't keep it as that now that you can actually see below the water.
@mohr365 @BloodNinja Well, I, for one, was interested to find this out, as I believe the SNES controller only had two tiny ZL/ZR buttons also used for the menu. Nice to know this one's a little more feature-complete.
@twztid13 Chapter 1 also didn't get a Switch release until (literally four months!) later, consoles have a whole certification and rating process to go through - you can't just drop a program on a site on a whim, and it could get leaked and ruin the surprise - and there's some bugs that needed ironing out anyway, I don't see anything weird here. In due time!
Video game orchestration's fun because they can throw electric guitars in with the orchestra, or mix chiptune and synth beeps and boops with regular instruments, and you just don't get that sound much!
@Haruki_NLI I was getting constant ads for it for a while here in the US, so clearly they've been doing some marketing; I just don't get why they think I can single-handedly buy enough copies to make it a hit!
I believe Nintendo's YT channel got a bunch of the trailers, not much need for them to do anything beyond that, Square Enix seems to be pushing it pretty heavily themselves
Just hopes this doesn't mean they're sidelining Samus. Especially not killing her off - her becoming a commander/mentor for a future protagonist could be cool, actually! But she absolutely should stay around in some form; I think she's much more crucial to the Metroid brand than the Metroids themselves are. (Though I guess they could always bring her back from anything with clone nonsense.)
@rushiosan Just like when they hired a western studio to make a 3D Metroid and then make another Donkey Kong Country and those totally flopped and didn't get any followups?
Can't wait for Neo TWEWY, a heavily voiced little VN with a whole action JRPG in between 😛
TWEWY definitely had more direct VN roots, but even those bits could be more dynamic than you might expect... which was an important lesson: full VNs can and do still look cooler than I'd taken for granted! I do still tend to prefer other gameplay on the side, but there's a lot I've overlooked.
Neo TWEWY's another stepped removed though, more pushing the TWEWY style even further, and it’s absolutely sick. The comic frames get sketched out and wiped from the screen (quick enough to just be cool instead of a distraction), there's so many more unique reaction shots (even if the main characters get literally no more, I think they're already as expressive as you could possibly need), anyway, I'm so hyped!
@BloodNinja Ha. Those are rookie numbers! I've played 3 Zeldas at once (ragequit Twilight Princess for a while after I just couldn't get the second mandatory motion control fishing done, finally started Link to the Past since NSO made that easy and liked it enough to get several dungeons in, then got Link's Remakening for more 2D Zelda goodness, beat that, and then went back to beat TP, still need to finish up LttP sometime), and another time 3 Final Fantasies at once (VI was my first but I hit a point where I needed to grind, picked up IX on sale after recommendations and got absolutely hooked, XIV the MMO is far more game than I could possibly finish and I'm still well in the bits under the free trial.)
Anyway, been enjoying the demo so far, as someone who never played the original.
@Gamepro500 There’s been Legends of Zelda with Link but no Zelda to be found, pretty sure they can always make more Metroids without needing Metroids!
And even so, "marking an end to that story arc" about "the uncanny relationship between these Metroids and the heroine Samus" doesn't even imply an end to the Metroids themselves! It could just as easily mean no more starring Samus (dumb), or simply that they're less central to the plot, or at least less connected to Samus personally. And even if they are finally ended, totally for real this time... ... they're games, they can absolutely find an excuse to bring them back.
The end of a story arc isn't the end of a series, it's a possibility to start new arcs. Or fill in the rest of the timeline. Who cares? If people are actually buying them again and the developers want to and Nintendo okays them, there's nothing stopping them from making more later!
I feel like it's already the one that feels the most like a (great) show. It's cartoony, yes, and there’s plenty of comic relief, but it’s a surprisingly dark game under there; I hope it doesn't get toned down too much for the apparent audience, but I think there's room to pull it off - that's the vibe of a lot of kids' cartoons these days. So I'm tentatively very exciting.
If nothing else, at least it's an excuse to get to talk to more people about Final Fantasy IX, which I love to bits.
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Re: Poll: Rate Your Favourite Switch Games Of The Year 2022
Live A Live's about the only new game I've even played this year, but I think it absolutely deserves a spot.
Re: Sonic Frontiers Director Excited About Next Game, Promises Even "Greater" Experience
General impressions I've gotten is that there's a pretty fun core in there with... some roughness around the edges, so I'm happy it sounds like they're planning to stick to that formula for a bit and make it better now that they've got a base to work from.
Hope Pokémon can do the same thing instead of randomly taking some steps back because they had to start working on the next one before they could take any lessons from the last one :/
Re: The Jet Set Radio-Inspired 'Bomb Rush Cyberfunk' Is On The Hunt For Voice Actors
Hope they hire the guy who played DJ Professor K for SiIvaGunner for something
Re: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass Wave 3 Launches Next Month
I've always said this game needed more Rainbow Roads.
Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Has Been Rated For Nintendo Switch
Twilight Princess is a solid game that’s not nearly as obsessed with being dark and edgy as it looks on the tin once you actually get a ways into it. Probably for the best they swung hard away from that-but-even-more, but good times.
Re: Random: Sega Is Hiring Someone To Help Keep Sonic's Lore In Check
BDG's the only person I've ever seen bring up the original Sonic lore.
Re: Square Enix Releases Second Official Trailer For Octopath Traveler II
The ship was the part of the first trailer where I absolutely lost my mind... ridiculously hyped now seeing ship exploration and battles. Hooting and hollering, like Partitio.
Re: Square Enix's New Farming RPG Harvestella Is Receiving A Day One Update
That'd... probably fix about every problem I had with it during the demo. Though I was starting to come around on the loop of "do your chores ASAP and then try to progress the dungeon far enough to unlock shortcuts for next time" ... but I don't think it'll suffer too much from a little extra time to move around.
Re: Review: Live A Live - A Brilliantly Faithful Remake Of A Unique And Influential JRPG
@Gracetrack From what I've heard, Chrono Trigger had a pretty rough development that didn't come together until the end, and the Dream Team was largely a marketing gimmick. But there probably has been some over-correction; the DQ and FF influences are obvious, and Toriyama's character design is, of course, even more so. A shame CT has to come up in contention for the release of two much more obscure games.
Re: Square Enix Celebrates Octopath Traveler's Fourth Anniversary With New Artwork
What I'd most want out of an Octopath 2 is stories brought together a little more by the end of the game itself, I think, rather than only really being connected by the post-game. Let the game acknowledge other characters are there in the latter parts! Oh, and maybe an airship.
But I definitely enjoyed the first.
Re: Random: You Can Complete The Mine Cart Mini-Game In Super Mario RPG Without Actually Playing It
I blame Temple of Doom for all the mine carts, honestly
Re: Poll: Does Nintendo Really Need To Release Mother 3 In The West Anymore?
I'm just lazy. Keep meaning to get around to it eventually but have been busy with tons of other games, and an official release would at least give me a reminder (maybe toplay the fan translation instead anyway!)
Re: Kirby And The Forgotten Land Claims Third In March NPD Results
Wait, this site has a pink style for Kirby? I love it!
Re: Talking Point: With BOTW2 Slipping, Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Launching Early Is Fantastic News
@Shredderlovespizza As someone who generally just plays turn-based stuff, Neo TWEWY's my favorite take on action RPG with way too many characters, because it takes it down to one button (of your choice, based on which move you equipped) to switch characters and use their move ... and then eventually you get up to 6 buttons to press and it's ridiculous but somehow just manageable, and it feels great when it works.
Re: Shin Megami Tensei V Tops 1 Million Sales Worldwide
Atlus knows they've been pretty niche, they're absolute masters of getting as much style as possible for as cheaply as possible, no way very good sales broke the bank.
Re: Video: What Legend Of Zelda Games Can We Expect To Fill The Gap In 2022?
@RubyCarbuncle People here are voicing their objections against paying $60 for a 9-year-old remaster of a 20-year-old game. And, fair!
But I never got to play Wind Waker. So as hard of an ask as $60 is... I'm definitely not paying $90 to play the original on my Wii. And that disc was a killer deal compared to other prices I've seen! (I still curse my past self for not looking harder for it years ago - and also not picking up a Wii copy of Prime Trilogy when I saw it on shelves, before everyone started caring about Metroid again.)
It's possible buying a used Wii U and getting it on the e-Shop might actually come out to less than that. Still probably over $60, though... for one game.
So if Nintendo actually wants my money, they should probably just move it over to the Switch as well. And everyone who's already played it - well, they don't have to buy it again!
Re: Random: A Novelisation For Zelda: A Link To The Past Had A Very Different Name For Link
Wild!
(okay take some more characters, how am I supposed to have anything more to add after that though)
Re: Random: What Is Mario's Name? Check Out This Mario Day Chart For The Real Answer
Saw someone suggest that Mario is Mario's maiden name, which is funny enough I'm going to accept it as canon.
Re: Nintendo Hypes Pokémon Scarlet And Violet's Rich Open World As An "Evolutionary" Step In The Series
Really weird they haven't been rushing to change up wildly selling kids' games.
Man, growing up on Wii and PC, BotW was my first time having to deal with camera controls. I'm sure kids these days can handle it, but it's easy to forget how much of a jump that is for people not used to it. I think that's more why they stuck with fixed views for so long than anything.
Would love to be catered to more, but ultimately I'm not the main audience. There's plenty of meatier RPGs out there; Pokémon is, more than anything, a gateway.
Re: Review: Kingdom Hearts III + Re:Mind - Cloud Version - Shot Through The Heart
From what I've heard, despite all the fancy graphics... this and 0.2 might've been the easiest ports, since they're made in Unreal instead of PS2-specific nonsense; wild they missed so hard on all of this.
Re: Random: We Need To Talk About That Street Fighter 6 Logo, Capcom
there's a chance it's just an icon and there's also a cooler logo on the title screen and such, I suppose?
Re: Namco's 'Dangerous Seed' Is Coming To Switch Later This Month
heh. "Dangerous Seed."
Re: Square Enix Reveals Final Fantasy VII's 25th Anniversary Logos
I get the impression that OG VII's fine - pretty good, even! - but has gotten so hyped up and sort of become a baseline that it doesn't have a hope of impressing new players nearly as much.
Re: Mario Kart 9 Is "In Active Development" And Comes With A "New Twist", Analyst Claims
I don't believe it.
Anyway, could someone predict a bunch of new F-Zero tracks for me instead? Thanks!
Re: Feature: Nintendo Switch Year In Review - Our Stats And Most Played Games
Big RPG year for me.Took me 48 hours this year to beat Final Fantasy IX (I think it's on sale again now, and absolutely worth the sale price!) and 43 hours hasn't even seen me to the end of Neo TWEWY.
Re: Best Nintendo Switch Games Of 2021
Surprised - but very happy - Neo TWEWY made it to the top 10 here. Sad it didn't sell better - I think it's super underrated - but easily my personal GOTY!
Then again, the only other things I've really played were Metroid Dread (have enjoyed what little I've played so far, but had trouble keeping at it) and Animal Crossing 2.0, so hardly an exhaustive list
Re: Switch Hacking Group Leader Gary Bowser Agrees To Pay Nintendo $4.5 Million
@EliteXeos It literally was, and they weren't? About as neutral as here, really, with commenters chiming in about how greedy and arrogant Xecuter had gotten - enough even the rest of the hacking community was kind of glad to see them go: https://kotaku.com/1847979149
Kotaku has its problems, absolutely, but so much of the hate I see for it seems so disconnected from anything real. It's not gonna kill anyone (okay, maybe the excess number of ads legitimately might! ) to occasionally see the articles themselves instead of repeating a whole mythos mostly based on some particularly awful headlines getting bounced around social media.
Re: Digimon, Eat Your Heart Out: Monster-Fusing RPG Cassette Beasts Is Coming To Switch
This was first announced a good bit back, so there is a blog that probably has a bit more details on the gameplay, for anyone looking. https://www.cassettebeasts.com/
Think there was a first reveal trailer floating around a while back, too.
Re: Random: Yoshi From The Super Mario Series Apparently Have Different Names
@mazzel That was at least in the original, just cut out of the English version. Guess they figured they couldn't keep it as that now that you can actually see below the water.
Re: Soapbox: We Need To Talk About The One Thing Nintendo Got Wrong With The Switch OLED
I've always had a little trouble getting carts to stay in on my old Switch - is it better at that because of this, at least?
Re: Bayonetta 3 Might Have Borrowed A Mechanic From Platinum's Cancelled Xbox Exclusive Scalebound
That trailer really felt like a Platinum Cinematic Universe.
Re: Switch's N64 Controller Is Hiding Some Extra Buttons
@mohr365 @BloodNinja Well, I, for one, was interested to find this out, as I believe the SNES controller only had two tiny ZL/ZR buttons also used for the menu. Nice to know this one's a little more feature-complete.
Re: Deltarune Chapter 2 Is Available Now On Switch As A Free Update
Well. Certainly hope some people are going to be eating their words now, but hardly expecting it!
Anyway, I've really enjoyed Ch. 2 from what I've played so far. Absolutely go play it if you liked Ch. 1, it's great!
Re: Undertale's 6th Anniversary Broadcast Locks In A Release Date For Deltarune Chapter 2
@twztid13 Chapter 1 also didn't get a Switch release until (literally four months!) later, consoles have a whole certification and rating process to go through - you can't just drop a program on a site on a whim, and it could get leaked and ruin the surprise - and there's some bugs that needed ironing out anyway, I don't see anything weird here.
In due time!
Re: Sensible Soccer's Spiritual Successor Signs For Nintendo Switch
@Vyacheslav333 and here I am, desperately wanting to be able to play Fantasian.
Re: Soapbox: Chiptune Is Great, But The Impact Of A Full Orchestra Is Unbeatable
Video game orchestration's fun because they can throw electric guitars in with the orchestra, or mix chiptune and synth beeps and boops with regular instruments, and you just don't get that sound much!
Re: Community: What Was Your First Ever Nintendo Game?
Are we counting the hotel box with Mario Kart 64, F-Zero, and DKC2? ... and if so, as what? MK64 definitely the first and biggest draw there, for me.
Other than that, my first console was a Wii so probably Wii Sports was the first thing we booted up.
Re: Japanese Charts: NEO: The World Ends With You Gets Debut Number One, Ace Attorney Takes Third
@Haruki_NLI I was getting constant ads for it for a while here in the US, so clearly they've been doing some marketing; I just don't get why they think I can single-handedly buy enough copies to make it a hit!
Re: UK Charts: Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Stays Second, NEO: TWEWY Debuts In Tenth
@HeadPirate 14 years, to the exact date (as far as I can tell), since TWEWY's JP release.
Far cooler than being on a Friday.
Re: Nvidia Shield Shutting Down Nintendo Wii Game Downloads In China
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Re: Japanese Charts: Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Stays Top As Nintendo Dominates Top Ten
Really hope NEO TWEWY does well this week! Been loving it so far!
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For NEO: The World Ends With You
I believe Nintendo's YT channel got a bunch of the trailers, not much need for them to do anything beyond that, Square Enix seems to be pushing it pretty heavily themselves
Re: Random: Nintendo Keeps Making Fancams Of Zelda: Skyward Sword Characters
Just wish Groose's was set to his Theme, best song in the game!
Re: Metroid Dread Producer Hopes Fans Look Forward To "Future Episodes" Once The Current Story Arc Concludes
Just hopes this doesn't mean they're sidelining Samus. Especially not killing her off - her becoming a commander/mentor for a future protagonist could be cool, actually! But she absolutely should stay around in some form; I think she's much more crucial to the Metroid brand than the Metroids themselves are. (Though I guess they could always bring her back from anything with clone nonsense.)
Re: Octopath Traveler Teases Sequel On Its Third Anniversary
@Chamver yeah, I've got an unhealthy SNES fixation so... these remain right up my alley.
Re: Talking Point: Can Metroid Dread Be The Franchise's 'Awakening'?
@rushiosan Just like when they hired a western studio to make a 3D Metroid and then make another Donkey Kong Country and those totally flopped and didn't get any followups?
Re: Soapbox: It's The Summer Of Visual Novels On Switch, And It's Just The Beginning
Can't wait for Neo TWEWY, a heavily voiced little VN with a whole action JRPG in between 😛
TWEWY definitely had more direct VN roots, but even those bits could be more dynamic than you might expect... which was an important lesson: full VNs can and do still look cooler than I'd taken for granted! I do still tend to prefer other gameplay on the side, but there's a lot I've overlooked.
Neo TWEWY's another stepped removed though, more pushing the TWEWY style even further, and it’s absolutely sick. The comic frames get sketched out and wiped from the screen (quick enough to just be cool instead of a distraction), there's so many more unique reaction shots (even if the main characters get literally no more, I think they're already as expressive as you could possibly need), anyway, I'm so hyped!
Re: Square Enix Has Released A Demo For NEO: The World Ends With You
@BloodNinja Ha. Those are rookie numbers! I've played 3 Zeldas at once (ragequit Twilight Princess for a while after I just couldn't get the second mandatory motion control fishing done, finally started Link to the Past since NSO made that easy and liked it enough to get several dungeons in, then got Link's Remakening for more 2D Zelda goodness, beat that, and then went back to beat TP, still need to finish up LttP sometime), and another time 3 Final Fantasies at once (VI was my first but I hit a point where I needed to grind, picked up IX on sale after recommendations and got absolutely hooked, XIV the MMO is far more game than I could possibly finish and I'm still well in the bits under the free trial.)
Anyway, been enjoying the demo so far, as someone who never played the original.
Re: Metroid Dread Is GameStop's Top Pre-Order Following E3 2021
@Gamepro500 There’s been Legends of Zelda with Link but no Zelda to be found, pretty sure they can always make more Metroids without needing Metroids!
And even so, "marking an end to that story arc" about "the uncanny relationship between these Metroids and the heroine Samus" doesn't even imply an end to the Metroids themselves! It could just as easily mean no more starring Samus (dumb), or simply that they're less central to the plot, or at least less connected to Samus personally. And even if they are finally ended, totally for real this time...
... they're games, they can absolutely find an excuse to bring them back.
The end of a story arc isn't the end of a series, it's a possibility to start new arcs. Or fill in the rest of the timeline. Who cares? If people are actually buying them again and the developers want to and Nintendo okays them, there's nothing stopping them from making more later!
Re: Final Fantasy IX Is Being Turned Into An Animated Series
I feel like it's already the one that feels the most like a (great) show. It's cartoony, yes, and there’s plenty of comic relief, but it’s a surprisingly dark game under there; I hope it doesn't get toned down too much for the apparent audience, but I think there's room to pull it off - that's the vibe of a lot of kids' cartoons these days. So I'm tentatively very exciting.
If nothing else, at least it's an excuse to get to talk to more people about Final Fantasy IX, which I love to bits.