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Talking Point: E3 2013 Is All About The Games

Posted by Gaz Plant

Wii U games, specifically

For many, the start of a new generation heralds the beginning of a golden age for gaming, promising new IPs, a fresh approach, or simply an established franchise seen through new technology. It is a time when the sky is the limit, and gamers everywhere can come together to celebrate change. But this time, that hasn’t quite happened.

Whereas the last generation introduced motion controls, deeper online integration and achievements, the new generation has perhaps had something of a false start. Despite having half a year to gain momentum, Nintendo’s Wii U has failed to achieve significant traction thanks to a limited range of quality software, while on the to-be-released front, both Sony and Microsoft have shot their opening salvos, and it’s fair to say that the results have been fairly divisive among the gaming community. The next generation is seemingly struggling to get started, and with E3 on the horizon, it’s time to turn that around. And for Nintendo, the timing could not be better.

Two of the biggest hurdles for Nintendo to overcome this year were the reveals of the PS4 and the Xbox One – much like the 3DS vs PS Vita debate, many saw the new consoles as steamrolling Wii U thanks to their more powerful graphical hardware (perhaps failing to learn from history), putting Nintendo in an untenable position. To date that doesn’t seem to have happened. Be it the lack of software shown to date, the focus on TV or the absence of price points currently causing suspicion, the new generation of consoles from Microsoft and Sony have arguably failed to capture the wider public’s imagination so far, putting the Wii U very much back in the game.

Taken in isolation, the Wii U does appear to be a potentially appealing prospect to consumers. It features much of what made the Wii such an icon; accessible, functional and reasonably affordable and suitable for anyone. We live in an age where HD graphics are the norm, and Wii U brings Nintendo into that era; it also boasts an established, albeit small, library of titles, as well as the entire Wii back catalogue. It’s a console that, if marketed well, could become the console to own this generation, but there is one key component missing – blockbuster games.

While the Wii U hasn’t had a start that will be remembered for decades to come, the software that has appeared on the system has clearly done enough to gain a fairly loyal following just six months into its lifespan, with New Super Mario Bros U, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate and LEGO City Undercover proving to be early must-haves for the system. But nothing so far has really rocked the wider gaming community and shifted units, and it is this that needs to be addressed before Wii U can really hit the headlines. And as if perfectly timed, E3 is just around the corner.
The cornerstone of the gaming year, E3 really is Nintendo’s big opportunity to announce to the world that the Wii U is here to stay. With Microsoft and Sony working to get glimpses of launch titles on display, coupled with a presumed focus on big name titles such as Call of Duty and FIFA, it perhaps falls to Nintendo to offer something new and different. Something that only Wii U can do. And this year, it’s bringing out the big guns.

As we know, Nintendo is adopting a fresh approach to E3 this year, and while we can discuss the pros and cons of that all day, the simple fact is that the coming year (and beyond) of games will be announced and unveiled at E3. And it’s time to start getting excited.
So let’s take a look at what we know is coming. First up is the big one, the title that many buy Nintendo systems for – Super Mario. The next title in the 3D Mario series is one that will hopefully push the boundaries of Wii U and exemplify why the GamePad exists, while building on the legacy left by Super Mario Galaxy. With the Galaxy games providing a challenge graphically to many HD games, the added horsepower of Wii U should produce something spectacular; with the classic Mario formula, it’s difficult to foresee this being anything but a winner.

There’s also the small matter of the double multiplayer header of Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros., both titles that are stalwarts of Nintendo platforms and continue to be on many gamer’s most anticipated lists. Super Smash Bros. in particular has a chance to make a real statement of intent at this year’s E3, and while we don’t expect to see it released until 2014 at the earliest, it is undoubtedly a game that will draw all but the most cynical eyes on the show floor.

The presumably gorgeous The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD should also make an appearance ahead of its winter release, while we’re likely to see a bit more of Yarn Yoshi. On the third-party exclusive front the recently announced Sonic Lost World – also coming to 3DS — will be getting its big unveiling, Monolith Soft’s X should get a mention and Bayonetta 2 will no doubt cause pining glances from competitor’s booths. And that’s before we even mention delayed titles such as Pikmin 3 and The Wonderful 101; don’t be surprised to see Nintendo also making a beeline for a wider audience with a focus on Wii Fit U.

Add onto this the myriad of rumoured games that will be at the show, none bigger than Retro Studios’ latest effort, and it is clear that Wii U has exclusives in abundance. But what of third-party content? While it has long been the Achilles’ heel of Nintendo systems in the past, if recent trends are anything to go by, things are looking in reasonable shape.

Ubisoft’s almost unilateral support of Wii U will surely be a big talking point at E3, with Rayman Legends, Assassin’s Creed IV Black Flag and Watch_Dogs being notable examples. Warner Bros will no doubt be hitting E3 hard with Batman: Arkham Origins and Scribblenauts Unmasked, while Square Enix will take the opportunity to show off Deus Ex: Human Revolution’s Wii U enhancements. While it’s not a definitive list of third party titles, the simple fact is that E3 showcases the biggest games of the year, and many of them are being enhanced by Wii U and the GamePad.

Of course the big missing element here is EA, which famously said that it was working on no Wii U games, only to retract the statement days later. While it seems unlikely that the company will completely flip-flop, with Disney handing out the Star Wars rights to it (and Disney being a supporter of Wii U elsewhere), it seems reasonable to surmise that we could see some news from EA in a few weeks; how unprecedented that news is remains to be seen.

What should be clear is that Nintendo has a strong E3 within its grasp. For the first time in years, Nintendo has a console that can go to E3 and take on the other manufacturers at their own game, offering some of the same content, only with enhancements thanks to the unique gameplay the GamePad offers. And once it’s matched them in some key areas, the megaton of exclusives from both first and third-party developers means that by the start of 2014, things are looking bright for Nintendo’s console.

And that is something that is clearly resonating with gamers already. Post-Xbox One reveal, sales of the Wii U on Amazon skyrocketed – albeit briefly — an alarming 875%, putting it temporarily in the best sellers list. If nothing else, it’s a statement from some of the gaming consumer base – while Microsoft and Sony focus on entertainment functions and go through console launch teething problems, Nintendo is focused on developing new and exciting gaming experiences, creating an autumn line-up that can rival any platform. Wii U has had its troubles at launch, but if the pre-E3 build-up is anything to go by, those troubles could be turned around.

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User Comments (83)



DemonicNinja said:

For EA not to develop for the wiiu is just plain silly,the wii u I believe will go on to be the biggest next gen system yet.



BossBattles said:

Perception is reality. Years of pachter bashing them along with hipsters and dudebro's believing everything they read on gaming websites have no clue about what nintendo is really all about.



HeatBombastic said:

E3 sure is exciting, and I gotta find the exact place where the blockbuster is, since it's in my city.

Anyways, I still need to pick up some older Wii U games, and I can't wait for more to come.



Prof_Elvin_Gadd said:

Once Pikmin 3 arrives I believe the system will start to pick up some steam. The Wii U Nintendo Direct next Tuesday will help as well, depending on how epic it is. I expect it to be pretty awesome, however.



LinktotheFuture said:

I am not worried about the Wii U. The 3DS started slow, but has become the best current system--in my opinion.



Scubahustle said:

I can't wait for E3...I'm all Wii U this generation. I don't need a giant media center. I just want to play games. Nintendo hasn't lost sight of that. Plus, I'm loving the Wii catalog that I missed out on. Now if Nintendo could find a way to get Bethesda to release Elder Scrolls/Fallout on the Wii U...



rjejr said:

"And this year, it’s bringing out the big guns."

I think they are aiming for double-barreled shotgun over the big guns. Hope it works. I have a birthday in July and a WiiU on my wish list but I need to hear more details next week. I'm still not convinced they can have a new Super Mario by the holiday yet nobody has leaked anything about it. We've seen Windwaker HD and Pokemon X + Y way back in Jan. and Yoshi's Yarn Planet and Zelda on the 3Ds. Pikmin 3 still isn't out yet after being a large part of E3 last year. 1 more week.



PanurgeJr said:

As excited as I am for next week's Nintendo Direct, I have to tell myself that who "won" a given year's E3 has never changed how much I've enjoyed any game, ever. Nor has who sold the most consoles in a generation. Xenoblade wasn't better because Wii sold, nor will whatever "X" is be worse if Wii U doesn't.



NintyMan said:

The Wii U will ultimately be similar to the 3DS in many ways. A slow start (although the Wii U had a Mario game at launch), a 3D Mario game and a Mario Kart game to spur sales, and then a year full of high-quality games the following year.

Once again, the games are where it's at for the success of a console. A year or two from now, the gloomy cloud hanging over the Wii U will dissipate so much that only fringe fanboys will still be pessimistic, especially by the time Super Smash Bros. 4 is unleashed.

The Nintendo Direct next week should be phenomenal. It really doesn't matter who "won" E3, but I think Nintendo will do well. Super Smash Bros. will be awesome, of course, but I'm also excited to see what the new 3D Mario looks like. That game has a good chance of coming out this year and may be the saving grace for the Wii U. One week until the speculation and rumors finally end, folks!



Funny_Moblin said:

So many games I need to get!!!

Wii U: X, SSBU, 3D Mario, Mario Kart U, WW HD, Zelda U, Game & Wario, Sonic Lost World, Rayman Legends, DQ X (if localized), AC Black Flag, Watch_Dogs, Zelda U!



ThumperUK said:

Great article!

I think WiiU sales will rocket, but only if Nintendo remember to do some marketing!! That has been lacking in recent months, although I've now seen Lego City ads a few times lately (none when it was released though!).



Dpullam said:

I'm very interested in seeing which new games Nintendo will have to show off at E3. I'm already planning on buying a Wii U later this year so new exciting games will only make that deal even sweeter.



Gallimastro said:

It's great that Nintendo is still trying to convince gamers to try their systems, but they are going to need more than first and second party support. Not trying to sound like a bitter old man who's still blinded by nostalgia every now and again, but they need to recapture the Action/adventure and RPG/Sandbox market again if they really want to compete. Not arguing first party support, hell they've survived this long on that alone. Second party seems to hold up well too.

They're doing the right thing by keeping it BC with the Wii library, there were some really good titles that deserve a second look if you've missed it.

Other devs can use the Wii U's lack of third party support to revive some old and forgotten franchises so they would stand out. Secret of Mana could use a new game, make it into something of a Tales franchise since that series seems to be shifting to PS now.

At least you're getting Arkham Origins, Blacklist, and Watchdogs, three games I'd never expect to see on a Nintendo console, so again another step in the right direction, even if its a slow pace.

Why I'm bringing this up, is that after the big guns are well after their release... I hate to see Nintendo go through another drought of games again. Been like this with the N64 and the Wii. Gamecube wasn't too bad, but some folks don't want to spend a combined $700-1k on owning new consoles, especially older folks with real responsibilities now.



AJWolfTill said:

Hey Gaz, Monolith Soft is actually a 1st party studio now.
I really am exited for this years show, I so hope they don't give too much air time to Wonderful 101 and Pikmin 3 as they've been on show for ages.
Slightly worried that because we have had so many game teases such as Shin X Emblem, Xeno2, yarn yoshi, Sonic Lost World and WWHD that we have seen in some small way that there won't be many suprises. Retro's is at least a complete unknown but will there be many more...?



bassoongoon said:

There better be a LOT of games coming out this year! I have been really patient, and many other people on the fence would not share that patience. Kick it into high gear Nintendo!



jayblue said:

the main problem is power i know people will complain with this,would you want to play watchdogs on the u or the next two next gen consoles.yes i enjoy playing on my u but i want to play next gen games that will blow the current gen out the water.its going to be second choice for a lot of gamers after the two next gen consoles are released.



GraveLordXD said:

@jayblue I'm pretty sure watch dogs on ps4 or the xbox1 will not blow away the wii u version
People who game primarily on pc have been experiencing that for years so its nothing new
Worried about power get a pc, ps4 and xbox1 will already be behind in that department the day it comes out



Gnoll said:

I hope in some eshop announcements too. 3DS's one is OK, but WiiU's a little sparse: some indie games and some new VC console would be great. I mean, NES&SNES? If I wanted those I would have bought them on Wii or 3DS already.



blackknight77 said:

I think Nintendo needs a graphical showpiece such as F-Zero or Star Fox to show off some Wii U power. That will get peoples attention



belmont said:

Am I the only one tired of all those Fifa, fps, Mario end much more games that have a new version every few months? Only a Final Fantasy back in the series roots would interest me. It is great obviously for fans of the above titles to enjoy each new iteration.

I want something fresh and this seems to happen from both high budget releases and indies. As far as Nintendo is concerned I would like some localizations of jrpg games on 3DS. I don't have a Wii U yet and till now nothing it has appeals to me much and I can play most games on my PS3.



misterquin said:

I can't comprehend how "analysts" are blind to the positions the "big three" are in and how Nintendo is obviously at an advantage from a business perspective.

Sony and Microsoft will spend E3 trying to explain why the PS4 and Xbox One are even worth purchasing. They'll need to explain what makes them so different from their predecessors and most importantly, they'll need to convince people that they're sucha significant graphical upgrade that people should purchase them. This is going to be difficult. The typical person doesn't give a damn about tech specs. THEY WANT GAMES.

Which brings me to Nintendo:

The Wii U is already out and available. Thus far, it's been a slow and rocky start for the console. Only a few exclusive games are available for it and this year has seen an almost complete lack of releases. BUT, come their Nintendo Direct conference, Nintendo isn't going to discuss Ghz or Gigabytes or anti-aliasing. Nintendo is finally going to be on the offensive. They're going to show off AMAZING GAMES. And that's what sells systems. The lack of games so far has been pretty rubbish for Wii owners like myself. But it's what Nintendo had to do.

They've set themselves up for the holidays. Sony and Microsoft will launch their systems and have very few games to accompany them, while Nintendo will unleash the plethora of games they've been concealing. It doesn't take an analyst to see who's got the upper hand:

The console that is least expensive and will have a lot of great games to play come winter. The Wii U will be like the Wii was this generation- the less powerful, but less expensive system that outsells it's competition. But this time, the graphics will be stunning.

Forgive my rant, but I get tired of people claiming that Nintendo's in trouble or going the way of Sega. Every single console launch has few games to go along with it.



b23cdq said:

It would be neat with a new Duck Hunt for the U, to show off the zapper (whenever that's released).



SkywardLink98 said:

I hope the 3DS' announced games get some attention. With Pokemon releasing in october and Zelda releasing in the holiday season they need to give us some details :/



LonDonE said:

wii u will be fine, but in my opinion Nintendo made some critical mistakes with the wii u, first and fore most the wii u should have come with at the very least 60gb hard drive in both sku, in this digital day and age not having enough storage is a no no, its why allot of third party developers are not including dlc for wii u versions of their games, hell i know my premium wii u is almost full, and it bugs the hell out of me, and whats worse is if i want to use my external hardrive on my wii-u, say 250gb out of the 1tb it has, i cant, i am forced to format it and use the whole hard drive for the wii u exclusively, thats insane, i don't see why we are not allowed to create a partition and allocate a certain amount of space for the wii u, but no Nintendo has to be awkward and give us no choice but to use the whole drive just for the wii u,i hate that, i use the same external hard drive for a few other things, so to use it on the wii u would mean i will lose allot of valuable data and that is bull crap!!!! no one else does it that way, so i don't see why we cant create a partition and then allow the wii u to format that partition to use.

And then there's the lack of a Ethernet port, really? in 2013 a hd ready console without even a Ethernet port, is a silly decision on Nintendo's part, no serious online gamer will use wireless to play online, its just not as stable, and can increase ping times, and then theirs packet loss, or signal interruption, also when downloading big files or full retail games from the eshop it will take so much longer then if using a wired via Ethernet port! what was Nintendo thinking when they made these decisions? how much more would it have added to the cost??

And then theirs the total lack of a Dolby codec, Nintendo was so cheap and too greedy, and does not like selling the hardware at a loss, and so did not bother to include a Dolby codec, and pay the license fee, come on? this is ridiculous! and so because of this stupid decision when i use my wii u on my top of the range Sony bravia HDTV, i can only select stereo as the audio out on the wii u, it wont work on surround, and so i have to connect the wii u to a external surround amplifier to get any sound better then bog standard stereo, i mean come off it, in 2013? no decent sound out put? when for over 7 years i have been enjoying Dolby 5.1 via my PS3, its ludicrous!

And then there's the total lack of music CD play back, no DVD playback, no blue ray playback, remind me why this things £300+ again??
i know these things are not necessary for me since i have devices which can do all the above things, but still these are just some of the basic things you come to expect from a console/entertainment device in 2013!
another stupid thing is Nintendo should have included a pro controller in both bundles of the wii u, and also made the pro controller compatibility for all games mandatory! that way allot of today's lazy ass developers could have just done straight ports to wii u using the pro controller if they were not bothered to implement to game pad and touch control's, but instead Nintendo only put the pro controller in the premium bundle, and so have divided the potential market of wii u owners who do own a pro controller n those who don't, sorry guys i don't mean to rant, i LOVE Nintendo, and have been gaming over 30yrs, i have always been the lucky because i have been able to be that guy who owns and games on ALL PLATFORMS! and so i was so hyped for wii u, i bought mine launch day for over £350 and so far love it, but i have been disappointed by Nintendo, they made so many silly decisions, i just expect so much more from Nintendo, i mean what the hell have they been doing since 2011(after skyward sword released)??
the virtual console for wii u should have been up and running out the gate,and also why the drip feeding of games for the virtual console? how much work does it really take to make the classic Nintendo games form the classic Nintendo consoles to work on wii u? they have been lazy, and the total lack of big first party games form them in 6 whole months after release is staggering!
hell pikmin 3 along with wonderful 101 should have been released ages ago!

And then there's the backwards compatibility, yes i commend them for allowing it in the first place, since the other 2 hardware companies wont be allowing it, but why is it other methods provide better quality?

i love Nintendo, and just expect a higher standard from them so the wii u has not been marketed at all, also they have made allot of stupid decisions, the wii u is a great console, but could have been so much better, its a shame, Nintendo is not going anywhere any time soon so the haters need to wake the hell up, they are rolling in billions of cash reserves, but regardless they have made allot of stupid mistakes with regards to the wii u, i just want Nintendo to up their game, one of the biggest problems is the silly fan boys who cant handle criticisms, and go crazy and jump into attack mode like a rabid dog whenever anyone has a opinion about Nintendo which highlights negative aspects, its their fault that Nintendo has become so lazy, i miss the old Nintendo, form the nes, snes, n64 and game cube days! since iwata took charge, and the wii came out, Nintendo has focused too much on the casual gamers, and not focused enough on making a hard core console, and cater to the core gamers! the u.s Nintendo leaders may as well jump off a bridge, since i will give iwata that, because he has locked down japan, and gotten most of the 3rd party developers to make for games for wii u,wii and 3ds, but in the west? WTF happened? they are not doing a good enough job!
the fact that the average wii u owner has to spend additional money on first a Ethernet usb adapter, then a external hard drive, then a pro controller, then a surround amplifier if they want to enjoy gaming with decent sound, instead of stereo LOL, and so to bring the wii u up to spec with a 7 yr old PS3 you find it costs allot of money! after buying all the additional things, including a basic blue ray player, the wii u total price is substantial, instead Nintendo could have added most of the aforementioned things in the system out the gate, and the wii u would have been a better console, and more future proof! anyway my hands are tired now LMAO!



JaivfromONM said:

"don’t be surprised to see Nintendo also making a beeline for a wider audience with a focus on Wii Fit U."
Ah! I see what you did there! ;p



DivineLevel said:

" Post-Xbox One reveal, sales of the Wii U on Amazon skyrocketed – albeit briefly — an alarming 875%, putting it temporarily in the best sellers list."

That statement is not exactly accurate. Sales did increase, but probably between 200%-300% in Amazon UK (not in Amazon in general). It was Wii U's sales rank that increased by 875% (from 390 to 40).



Ralizah said:

Nintendo's showing at E3 will go a long way toward helping me decide whether a Vita or a Wii U is the better investment this year.



JactheRipper said:

Every one is happy for SSB4 and Zelda ect. And belive me i am to but im really excited for "X" and what ever new IP Nintendo is working on even if they totally pul l something out their sleeve like F-Zero or Star Tropics or something to blind side us with joy!! thats what im really excited for!!!



MitchVogel said:

"how unprecedented that news is remains to be seen." Hehe, I see what you did there.



Slapshot said:

Speaking of Deus Ex: Human Revolution - that is this month's freebie on PS+. I've got to download that one today.



CanisWolfred said:

After the Xbox One reveal, I went to the doctors and got some disappointment pills to keep my expectations in check. Hopefully they'll be enough once E3 roles around...



b23cdq said:

@MrGawain it was more a comment on the author description, rather than the article.
But I don't know, haven't played either.



Zup said:

@LonDonE I didn't even bother to read that. I was just like WOAH someone wrote a book. I mean how long did that take?



Algus said:

I'm definitely looking forward to some more details on X. I don't even really care what's going on with Microsoft at this point though Sony might be able to grab my attention.



ccanfield1 said:

Nintendo better show off some amazing games that outdo Sony and Microsoft. Otherwise gamers won't be spending their money on Wii U and instead will be saving it for PS4 or Xbox One. I hope the Big N gives me many reasons to pick up my gamepad this E3.



schizor said:

I'm still waiting to return home form China and try my Wii U for the first time. I have played the console once in a store playing the Rayman Legends Demo. There are so many games just waiting for me and the excitement is unbearable.



hYdeks said:

Show some great games and they will come. I'm already wanting a Wii U just with the games they have now, and knowing that Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, 3D Mario, Super Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Yarn Yoshi, Rayman Legends, Batman, Watch Dogs etc. in the line, and we don't even know what Retro is bringing yet either! It's exciting, can't wait till next tuesday Maybe Nintendo isn't getting as many games as PS and Xbox is, but there definitely lots of quality there.



Bender said:

@HeatBombastic You mean Best Buy? BlockBuster is pretty much dead around here thanks to netflix... But our Best Buy is getting Nintendo's E3 demos. I really cannot wait to see what they bring.



Ichiban said:

@LonDonE i agree with you. Ive said it before but nintendo needs some young blood to take charge.
Im looking forward to e3 this year, but please Nintendo dont make it a mario and minigame fest!



QuickSilver88 said:

So much Nintendo can yet do with the system both in games and functionality. The guy that tore the gamepad down said there was no reason why gamepad couldn't be connected via wifi with a firmware modification. Meaning gamepad could be a true remote play device allowing you to do off TV play anywhere you have wifi. Imagine that!



Mr_G said:

Dear Nintendo

this is you chance to finally finally blow our minds. Its time make Sony and Microsoft shake in their boots.
Its time to come out guns blazing!
You have teased us with this many times at E3 but never delivered! Its your one time to make us stand up and scream for you again.




WaveBoy said:

Nintendo, please deliver an E3 experience simular to 2010's 3DS unvieling and awesome-suprise Wii lineup....The last 2 Nintendo E3's were pretty darn underwhelming....Also, who could forget E3 2006 with the insane enormous hype build up surrounding the wii and it's groundbreaking innovative controller that demonstrated NEW ways to play games. None of the Wii U related E3's captured a trinklet of that magic.



LonDonE said:

@nintendogamerz @Zup
When you have been using a PC for gaming and everything else for over 20yrs typing becomes second nature, i can type over 350 characters per minute, with my eyes closed, since muscle memory makes it too easy, lol if you didn't read its your loss,it feels good to let off and go into rant mode some times, and Nintendo has been frustrating me allot the last few years!



marck13 said:

F-Zero UX and third party love in form of GTA V for Wii U and my E3 would be perfect.



eltomo said:

I am pumped. I was holding out for bigger HDD space before I got a Wii U, but after E3 I don't think I'll be able to hold back any longer!



StarDust4Ever said:

People are really getting their undies in a bunch over the Wii-U, not to single out anyone specifically. Despite it's shortcomings, it's a great console, people!

MS and Sony are the real ones with their heads shoved into a hole somewhere like an ostrich buries it's head in the ground. (not saying where the "hole" is, but it's not the ground!)

Each generation there's a race to cram a 300-watt supercomputer into a box with the same basic controller with minor upgrades. Worse yet, they're throwing in DRM, constant online requirements, and bans on used games at no cost. Oh, and it streams tv shows and movies as well. So does a last gen Wii box with a Netflix subscirption!



doctor_doak said:

Well, Sony seems to be pretty well focused on the gaming side of things imo, but Microsoft is a different story. It is kind of refreshinng that the Wii U is probably going to be the only truly dedicated home console of the three this gen..

Wii U has been a bit of a disappointment so far, but it's exciting to think what lies ahead. Nintendo can just win over people by releasing great games as they have in the past..

I'm excited for Pikmin 3, 3D Mario, and whatever Retro Studios is working on...



Araknie said:

PS4 and Wii U will be the choices.

If the PS4 is a gaming console and not another multimedia machine, that's my opinion, i just think a gaming console should be only a gaming console, any thing plus it's, duh, a plus.

Don't like either that they're tring to please developers by doing computer based consoles with the PS4 and Xbox One (and i don't wanna talk about the TV issue on the XTOBLERONE), they should try to please consumers and gamers.



Dogpigfish said:

I want a shooter, but not another Call of Duty. Please make another Metroid 1st person shooter, that's all I want. Otherwise ill need to buy something different. Not a year old game rehash, but a bonefide shooter where the opponents are crazy aliens or creatures, or something.



ICHIkatakuri said:

Even if Nintendo don't show much of Mario 3D or Smash bros and Mario Kart, I know they're going to be good quality titles anyway. I am hoping they choose to show something we haven't seen for a while on home consoles like Wave Race, Pilotwings, Star Fox and F-Zero. Though a new metroid prime or any news on the new Zelda could just knock it out of the park!!!! and thats before we get to Bayonetta 2 and Monolith Softs "X" which both stand a good chance of being the perfect reason for many people to go out and buy the console



Lulzwagon said:

I just can't wait for 3D Mario. The release of those games have always been an event for me ever since Mario 64. It's a give-in that the game will rule, and I can't wait to see where they take the series.



Unit_DTH said:

@LonDonE Just wondering, since I'm ignorant on this and my Wii U seems to give me fine sound out of my SS system without any amplifiers, could the Dolby Codec not be added later? Since it is just a codec after all and you don't have to substantially change the hardware to run a new codec, couldn't they just update the Wii U to fully support Dolby SS? Or are you referring to the lack of a dedicated audio output source?



Nightingale said:

@LonDonE Haha, come on, the fastest logged typing speed in the world is around 212 WPM, you're not pulling 360.

I am cautiously optimistic about the Wii U's future. I think they're in a position that can be capitalized on, here-- if they can get some powerful titles out in the Christmas window, and couple that with, say, even a 50 dollar price drop of the deluxe model down to that 299 window, I think they're going to look pretty attractive by comparison.

Here's hoping for a Wii U Ambassador program for those of us who were early adopters and have had to ride out this long lull.



LonDonE said:

LOL sorry didn't even realize i wrote words instead of characters, CPM VS WPM, LOL have corrected it now, and i do agree with u, i know Wii U will be fine in the end but i just wish Nintendo done things differently oh well cant do nothing about it now, i know there will still be some awesome games on Wii U, which regardless of how much power the console has will become instant classics, and i will be playing them for years to come, i mean think about it Nintendo made Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 look and run better then most PS3 and 360 games, and made both games some of the highest rated games this last generation! and they did this with only 88mb of ram LMAO imagine what they will do with a hd ready console and 1gb of ram? coupled with a great gpgpu, i say Nintendo will most likely make games on Wii u which will easily look and perform better then allot of Xbox one and PS4 games! obviously raw graphics of the PS4 first party exclusives will likely look allot better, but regardless i know for a fact both the PS4 AND WII U will have some gems this generation!



crazyangrygamer4 said:

i think that Nintendo wants to discontinue the basic set is because they are afraid of competition and they are afraid that Sony and All in one Xbox will be more powerful than the Wii u its a shame that game stop has to return them all after E3 i wonder if they will still be releasing Smash brothers U this fall the games for the brand new system are insanely high priced and i think that's why its not selling cause i know Nintendo try to sell a certain number of Units of the system and they been failing pretty bad. i think if they cut all the prices on the video games maybe more people will buy them and more games will be made



misterquin said:

@Ralizah I've got to say. If you're debating between a Vita and a Wii U, the answer is pretty apparent. I owned a Vita for less than 2 months. Got it off Craigslist pretty inexpensively.

It's EXTREMELY powerful, but the problem is, the games aren't fun... I mean, it's essentially a portable version of a PS3 and that sounds much more baddonkey than it is in practice. The Wii U is going to have some exceptional games coming to it.

I STRONGLY recommend the Wii U. Hell, I'd recommend the Wii U over a Vita even now, and the Wii U only has like 3 good games. (The Vita is much worse off now than the PSP was last generation and that will undoubtedly keep developers from going crazy over it)

I imagine you've already got a 3DS? If not a 3DS XL is probably the best investment of any of the consoles at the moment in my opinion.

(And just to make things clear, I've owned a PS3 and PS Vita, and currently own a custom PC, a Wii U, and a 3DS XL- so I'm not a Nintendo purist by any means. Just givin my honest opinion. Which is essentially DO NOT GET A VITA)



t3g said:

Nintendo really has Disney to thank for keeping EA making games for the Wii U even though EA wanted to abandon it entirely. Nintendo should also be thankful that Disney is having the Wii U kiosks and game demos at the Downtown Disneys near Disneyland and Disney World.



Ralizah said:


Have owned a 3DS since late 2011, and an XL since late 2012, I have about 20 retail games and dozens of VC and 3DSware releases. Believe me, I know how great it is. The Vita has some awesome software on it, but I'm not sure how strongly Sony is going to support it, whereas I know the Wii U, which is suffering from a lack of compelling software at the moment, will eventually develop a strong software library.

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