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I already have this and have played these but I suppose it's good for those who haven't. I'd much rather hear about a new game then another re-release though.

Also they should have put all 6. I know they didn't for money or whatever, but that's not really an excuse.

@Dalarrun I was simply trying to give you the reasons that they don't do cross play and also behaving in the general way that people seem to behave on this site. I don't really think Sony's fan base cares about cross play.

I don't care if you criticize Sony, in fact I don't really care for the fact that they release the Ps4 pro or Microsoft releasing their mid generation upgrade to. I don't like that Sony is now also making micro money grab consoles. I don't like a lot of stuff about Sony. I just find it funny that everyone settled on cross play like it's the worst thing ever.

Honestly I enjoy discussions with people I don't agree with, even though nowadays the minute you disagree with an echo chamber you're called "sore" or have feelings projected on you. Nice conversation man. ^^

@serendipitiful https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/09/guide_nintendo_switch_online_faq_-everything_you_need_to_know-_pricing_cloud_saves_nes_games

I don't know why. All you have to do is go to the front page and click it anyway. I just checked and it's still there.

EDIT: It won't work as a url tagged link for some reason so copy and paste or just scroll down on the main page of this site. I didn't originally put it in as a hot link anyway so I'm not sure why that happened.

No matter who hosts their servers, that company is not at fault, Nintendo is for not researching a market they entered. They just took their money.

It looks like an as- a giant black hole. It's the anus Pokémon. 😏

@JunkRabbit I doubt there was very much work as the games already exist and they are ports. It's not like they're making the games from scratch.

I do find it odd either way as well though.

@JunkRabbit well I would assume they wouldn't just pull it out of their butts although nowadays you never know. 😏

@aesz I didn't ask to be called out. I only responded because I was @ed. Like now.

Also no one cares they count split screen toward this because that seems weird to me? Do all multi-player games do that or just this one? I was actually curious about that.

@serendipitiful]]] https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/09/guide_nintendo_switch_online_faq_-_everything_you_need_to_know_-_pricing_cloud_saves_nes_games_games

Listed in the part about cloud saves, it lists games that won't be supported. I'd like to think this site would at least get that right.

Also last time I checked some of the Final Fantasies won't even support when they come which also makes no sense to me as they are supported on other consoles for cloud saves.

Even without the comparison to other services, it doesn't make sense.

@gortsi except that's what your whole response has been. You brought up the 80s when there was no internet. They had no link to cross play. It did with calling your friends on the telephone. Hence my comment. I'll even admit that the nostalgia of actually using a phone is an interesting thing for Nintendo to play with, and would be kind of cool if that wasn't the only option.

As for the rest, you didn't even mention cross play to me and you ignored every bit of my other comment in order to go after someone saying their friends who ALL own PS4s were upset at Sony because they couldn't play with him on the Switch could be an exaggeration. You're the one insisting that Sony users are upset about cross play, the burden of proof is on you and person anecdotes aren't proof.

I don't get why people need to be so outraged about everything nowadays. Sony never promised anyone cross play and they don't have to give it, just like almost everyone here said Nintendo doesn't have to do this or that. It's really that simple.

It's ironic that one of the articles here told people to stop complaining about what was wrong with Nintendo's online service and the next day there's one attacking Sony over cross play for the fourteenth time.

It's just manipulative and clickbaity and seems to be the way this site is going.

@gortsi people do say that. Yet again what's your point? I don't even know how you're factoring last Gen as comparable to the 80s. I guess that's a personal anecdote?

A better comparison to the 80s would be the fact that you have to use a phone to chat with your teammates in first party Nintendo games except in the 80s Nintendo didn't charge you to call your friend on your phone.

Edit: also he didn't say he had a PS4 in first place. He said his friends who own PS4s were upset. That's like way more degrees of separation than the people who accuse me of simply not owning a Switch. It'd be like them saying my friends owned Switches and I was so jealous of them that I hated the Switch or some farfetched mess like that.

@roboshort I do. Mostly this one tbh and another mostly Nintendo based one too. So yeah what's your point there? I'm not even defending their decision, and I wouldn't. I just don't see how the Nintendo fan base can throw stones while Nintendo's online service is basically the definition of a glass house now. Especially since PSNOW allows to actually download full fledged games and not ones made twenty years ago now. Oh and Ps2 games as well. We are waiting to see if Nintendo is even going to add SNES games meanwhile here.

@gortsi I don't know him. I don't know his friends. I don't know of they exist. Got it? The way this console wars go nowadays everyone makes a bunch of stuff up so I'll believe when I see people actually complain it who own a PS4 in first person thanks. The same way I wouldn't go to a Sony site and expect them to be fair to the Switch.

Also cross play hasn't even been a thing before this generation and we don't know if it will be after. I can tell you this, if Sony and Nintendo were swapped around, Nintendo wouldn't have cross play either. It's just the way they are. Now Microsoft I could see, since they're in the PC game anyway and even the Ps4 cross plays with it right? So they do cross play with Microsoft just not with a competing console.

EDIT: also apparently they count everyone who plays splitscreen in this as well which makes the cross play a bit redundant and this numbers also take into account PS Plus giving it away for free and humble bundles. So basically it was click bait to even mention the cross play.

Oh look people complaining about Sony. It's funny that it's only people on other consoles I hear it from though. It's almost like most of Sony's fan base don't even care.

And before someone points to the first comment, I don't see his friends complaining, just him.

Am I the only one who heard a collective intake of breath and the grasping of peals in the first half of the title? checks comments

Nope there it is.

I'm surprised no one has called for his execution yet although it seems you'd settle for his job.

Just what we need, to make it where another person can't make money. Put him in prison so he won't be rehabilitated and we can all bear the burden of paying the private prison companies to take care of him and he can face massive overcrowding.

That's totally justice. /s

I'm so over this from everyone although at least with Sony you can buy some of the games on the Ps4 instead of their mini.

It's such a waste of space to me.

@Leej07 lol just because EA bought and killed a franchise doesn't make this any less of a knock off. Just like you throwing random insults at me instead of saying something meaningful doesn't make me any less right man.

My problem isn't the cost but the fact that I'd rather have online that did more and pay more it as I've said a thousand times.

I really don't see people complaining it cost too much. That just seems to be go to strawman.

So why won't the Final Fantasy re-releases support cloud save? They aren't online multi-player.

I still quite like the way this one looks but don't care for Minecraft. I feel weird.

@ninty used logic. Logic is super effective.

Eh I'm not really excited about this. I never played CC although I may try it this time.

I am more excited for all the other ones coming to Switch though. Hopefully VIII eventually too. Next year is the 20th anniversary after all.

So it's still boiling down to we should be grateful Nintendo is taking our money AND giving us a FEW features for it instead of just taking our money anyway and doing nothing.

I'm sorry I'm not grateful when anyone takes my money and gives me little to nothing back. You can say it's cheap but that doesn't make it good. You can say you have to have it but that doesn't make it good. You can try to pass off games that are older than I am as a positive (and only ten of them at that) but that doesn't make it good. I'll stop there because I honestly haven't seen anyone say that the voice chat is good (well maybe one but some people are well some people).

In the end, for the millionth billionth time, no one is complaining about the cost, except in a cost benefit way as to what Nintendo is offering compared to what we had before. I and many many MANY others would have gladly payed the same price as their competitors for the same features and done so with little to no compliant. That is the issue here.

If you want to smear people, at least use facts.

@Mrtoad thank you for the link. Across all versions it was scored anywhere from a 100 (which no one seems to think it was even here) to a 50 (that wasn't this review).

It's almost like there are differing opinions about this game guys.

Omg it's still going. I find it hilarious that none of you can deal with someone having a different opinion than you. It is and always has been a ripoff of Simcity. It's never been a critically acclaimed must play title like some are claiming.

If it has performance issues on everything, that's not a defense. That makes it even worse that they continue to happen. If this had been a positive article you would all be mentioning this and attacking the reviewer as well.

It's the hive mind at work again.

@nab1 lol, goal posts changed.

Several people are claiming Nintendo did it first. Also Nintendo engineered a shortage to drive sales, will Sony copy that?

@iLikeUrAttitude oh boy. What will they do? Make a straw man shaped like me and argue with it?

Yes it's so generous of any company to sell us stuff. We should all be grateful they continue to do so.

Even if a product is inferior we should be thankful that the company will take our money to provide it. /s

@Ensemen they only want that if it applies to the games they dislike that the reviewer likes. If the reviewer dislikes something they like then they want to know how many hours they played and whatever else will invalidate the review.

Here's an idea:use your brain to digest the actual review text. Learn reading comprehension guys and use it. Just because you disagree about framerate doesn't make it untrue that it lags. You can just as easily read the review and decide that's not something that would bother you and continue your purchase. For the person who is bothered by it, it's nice to know.

Haha.

That's all I have to say about these controllers.

In before the defense force gets here to claim that it's just poor optimization and the Switch can run any game ever made wholesale.

Find it hilarious that people act like Nintendo was the first to do this when other console makers had been making the equivalent of this long before the Nes mini.

Of course that doesn't fit the narrative so it is ignored.

I find it hilarious that you act as though you didn't make use a click bait title for this very purpose.

This is the worst version of this game.

I'm glad to see that this site isn't demonstrating bias just because this is the only version we have gotten. It gives me hope.

No surprises here. Yet again, even though people will pretend that we are complaining about the price, the real problem is that we would gladly pay more for better features.

No one cares that it's $20; we care that it offers few features and attempts to pimp out the same games as always. It offers no new features that are wanted and hides things we already had behind a paywall.

Oh look people are attacking people for Nintendo again. It's always sad to see.

When your greatest defense is personal attacks, and comparisons to other services' prices then you don't have a lot to defend.

@BensonUii obviously this is completely wrong and Bandai should be held responsible for allowing these people to steal from Nintendo. This 3DS and Switch being taken from a machine that works hard for its money is absolutely indecent and everyone involved should be executed.

If they want a Nintendo product maybe they should just not eat for a few weeks and pull themselves up by their bootstraps. In my day, which hasn't started because I'm a child living with my parents who buy me video game consoles, you had to walk up hill both ways to sell your ass to be able to afford a game console.

People nowadays are so entitled, it's good that a majority of Nintendo products aren't bought by parents to shut up their whiny kids. /s

I bet a lot of kids would love to have a parent like this who actually BOTH spends time with them and gets them expensive toys.

@BensonUii it could opt me them all for that though. I wouldn't care.

And to be clear I'm not complaining about this. I'm simply expressing my thoughts. I know anyone saying anything but thank you Nintendo, please have my firstborn triggers people but I don't really care. That's not directed at you specifically.

I love her.

Just in general so I'm stoked tbh.

I mean this is a nice though but one will you be able to pay the whole cost with them and two why not allow you to decide if you want to auto renew with them?

But at least this decision seems somewhat beneficial.

I've tried playing this before and wasn't amazed by it.

Might try it again.

Nope not at all.

This isn't a feature I want or care about.

I mean I'm not sure how this is some amazing feature when you could actually own the games before.

It's lime this is the highlight of their online service and I feel as if it should have more, I don't know, online service to offer?

Last person to defend Fortnite but if people are going to get divorced over that something else would have caused it I'm sure.

@UmbreonsPapa I think people who refer to that are mostly doing it because of current trends more so than anyone particular problem. It's not my place to pretend to know however.

As for the defense comment, there is absolutely a sector of our fan base that defends everything Nintendo does and moves to attack anyone who disagrees with any little thing. It's not hard to see if you read the comments, even if this site is mostly better than most of the other ones.

@ShadJV exactly. This hurts no one.

Suikoden 1 and 2 oddly enough. Wish they would make a new one and that it would be on the Switch.

Won't happen because Konami but I can still hope.

@gcunit and this a great chance for a company that is suffering from bad optics to get some great press coverage isn't it?

It goes both ways. Nintendo wouldn't just do this out of the kindness of their hearts they would because it's a massive PR opportunity.