Hackers Are Already Uploading Additional Games To The Switch NES Library

Oh boy, here we go again...

That didn't take long. Figured it wouldn't, but still shocks me how quick homebrewers can be.

I'd be eager to try this myself, but I still be scared of dem there telemetrics, especially on an app that needs to phone home every now and then.
Cuz an app like that I'd bet would be monitored heavily to ensure hackers aren't getting in w/o proper permissions.

I am neither condoning nor condemning this.

Lol people will start crying like babies when there switch gets banned and ill sit back and laugh

With only 20 Nes games to start and 3 Nes games a month for the next 3 months, which is a slower pace then even Wii U, I don’t blame them. At the very least Nintendo should of offered a mixture of Nes, Snes & N64 Games to kick it off adding a little variety and excitement. And I’m still not happy with no option to purchase a game you might want to “own”. 🤨

Nice!
Apart from the fact that I don't care about NES games...

The only thing surprising to me here, is how fast this happened. I figured it would take a little more time.

But I have been saying for a while, if Nintendo does not offer more of their legacy retro content, then homebrewers are gonna find a way to do it themselves. Look at the Wii U, people have hacked that system beyond belief and it has emulators running freaking Playstation games now!

Buy my book! LEAKERS AND HACKERS

Ah, ill come back after people post all the "Kill yourself because you covered hacking NL".

@Heavyarms55 People are going to hack it even if every game was available, there were still tons of hacks for free Wii and Wii U games on the Wii U even though they could be purchased on the eShop.

This made me smile. People taking matters into their own hands and showing up Nintendo on their own product. One day into the new online service and it's already being cracked. I wonder how Ninty will respond to this

Don't care about hacking a console, but Nintendo sure needed to prepare more for the service. As others have said many times, different console generation games. I'd pay more just for that.

With the lackluster library of NES games, I'm not surprised.

(Sit down on sofa & start eating pop corn while watching the funny debates again)

They aren't promoting hacking, and there's literally no point to this. The hacker himself warned against it because your Switch can easily get banned. This isn't some kind of victory for hackers. Great, they can add roms on the Switch, which will get their systems banned and then they just have a handheld device with NES roms and no online functionality. If I wanted that I'd just download them on my tablet/phone, but I'm not a dirty hacker.

Great so now Nintendo has to waste time blocking these losers and patching the service. This is why we can’t have nice things.

@ReaderRagfish
Have some pop corn.

@Anti-Matter cup of coffee and popcorn surprisingly good combo.

@Ryu_Niiyama Agreed

Shine on you crazy diamonds!

@Tasuki Right... Going by that warped version of logic, newspapers should probably also stop reporting on news about crimes and how they were perpetrated, because, you know, that might just glorify robberies and kidnappings and killings...

@Heavyarms55 PSX emulation was already possible on the Wii. Got it installed myself, and it runs pretty good, I must say. It's called WiiSX, if you're curious.

It's probably the same emulator that's used on the Wii U, since it's the (virtual) Wii part of the Wii U that is soft-modded and doing all the emulating.

I do NOT like it, folks....this doesn't help anyone.

@Tasuki

"Glorified"? Do you get dizzy sitting up on that high horse? The hacker himself warned against doing this. All Nintendolife doing is reporting on something. I swear the anti-piracy/hacking crowd become more desperate and defensive each day... I mean if you don't like this sort of thing, that's understandable, but don't be so ridiculous about it.

With that said, I wouldn't mind being able to play Battletoads on the NES Online myself. No 2 player mode though. That's just suicidal.

@Heavyarms55 Apparently the emulator that runs the NES games is a port of the one in the NES Mini... :/

When you realise how easy it was for hackers to break the system with the NES mini, it's really difficult to understand WHY Nintendo choose to port the emulator for the Online Service... :/

But how? I thought Nintendo shut all the ROM sites down ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

While I understand why Nintendo used the NES Classic as the basis for the emulation, it makes me wonder why it didn't try (or at least try harder) to improve the security.
Maybe, this explains the 7 day online requirement, or more likely, it's just a coincidence.

@Anti-Matter might I recommend kettle corn flavored oreo's.

@Cobalt because its a good emulator?

It stands to reason if the entire catalog of nes games were available the need for hacking a system for things like this would be negligible.

Good. Is it also possible to mod my NES/SNES Classic with a mac or do I need to borrow someone’s pc?

A cool idea in concept, but not worth the risk.

If hackers can add games this easily why can Nintendo only add 3 nes games a month lol Nintendo has to have a hidden card up their sleeve or do they?.... starting to think they are out of surprises and this is what we get for good.

@GameOtaku That’s almost impossible and not worth it. I don’t think anyone wants the cost to rise for NOS, because of awful licensed games bloating the thing.

@edgedino I don't call a good emulator, an emulator that crop the games by 24 pixels in heigth, that brings a crappy CRT filter and that can be hacked at the launch date... Maybe you, but not me !

But they didn't allow save clouds for certain games in order to prevent this, what happened to your perfect strategy Nintendo 🤔😂

Nintendo should add more old and tiny games at a better frequency. Throw some Gameboy in there until SNES is ready. People are gonna hack regardless, and I laughed like Henry The Red when I saw this. However... if they can add the old and tiny games before Nintendo cares to, that does kinda show them up. Why can’t I play Mario 2 again? Relevance, business, politics? Scared I’ll cancel my $20 service that I already paid for? Lol. C’mon Nintendo. I already beat Mario 1 and 3, and made suspend points for Buzzle Beetle Stage Select (SMB1) and P Wings Galore (SMB3). I worked today and yesterday too. So uh... about that Mario 2. Either of them. Seriously. Don’t make me hack the Switch. (Kidding.)

@Mrtoad
A lot of the licensed games are easily the best on NES. Battletoads, Castevania, Duck Tales, Megaman the list goes on. Even for games that were not very well received like Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde or Deadly Towers would still sell as a curiosity. The slow drip feed all over again when they could have just used the already existing VC lineup the 3ds and wiiu already has rather than starting from scratch again.

I’m glad.
Pay for your games. Nintendo is a business and they need support to stay afloat. I know, older games are awesome. But if there’s any time to pay for games it’s now with this amazing new Nintendo hardware. Show your support and play these games legit. Else, ya gon’ git ban’d, kiddies.

...meanwhile all I did last night was run through Super Mario Bros and The Legend of Zelda

@GameOtaku
If there’s a third party game I’d really like to see it’s Bubble Bobble, it’d be perfect for online!

Seems like more games they Nintendo will release during its lifetime.

See? This is why we can’t have nice things...

@VR32X Henry the Red lmao

I don’t give a damn about NES games, add snes and n64 please

With less games than the NES mini until the end of the year, can't say I blame anyone for doing this.

Really though, even if Nintendo HAD to stick to NES games for this service, they could have provided more interesting titles. Didn't they bother to translate Mother 1 on a failing console, why can't that see a second wind here? Or what about rare games that are hard to find physically like Mr. Gimmick?

I'm never going to understand Nintendo's approach to retro gaming. They have the assets for the best (legal) retro-service ever created by mankind, yet they refuse to do it. Doesn't help they scrap their library of retro games with each console.

Saying that they "uploaded ROMs to the service" is completely ignorant and misleading. They are replacing the ROMs in their devices.

Honestly this is good and important news. If hackers manage to get additional titles working without any real work on their end, it means Nintendo has no excuse not to dump every first party title on the service by the end of the system's life.

Plus, there are 40 titles they own the rights to and are usable (no stack-up or Gyromite, but assuming they do bring the light gun games, Earthbound Beginnings and Mysterious Muramase Castle) and they wouldn't have to secure licensing for, and with one Nintendo title a month minimum as appears to be their goal and 13 out this year, we should burn through all of them by the end of 2020. Earlier if they don't rerelease titles like the World Championship games. That suggests SNES will have to happen at the latest by then, but presumably earlier since there aren't any emulation roadblocks we can see.

Now this is interesting. In the past when you had to buy every single game (like for wii u virtual console) such action was commented that nintendo is loosing money. But here if you pay for the online service 1 price no matter how many games are in there how nintendo is loosing money? If someone adds rom to their collection it is only argument that nintendo should release all nes games faster, not by 3 monthly. But anyway, if nintendo releases eg kirbys adventure you will pay the same money not more. So nintendo is getting maximum profit right now and argument of loosing the money is not valid

Nintendo should step up and release more. Not just a couple a month. Would be a different story of they added more than 10 games a month. And anounce sness also for free.

@ninty used logic. Logic is super effective.

Now I wanna see SNES and N64 running on Switch.

What I enjoy about hacking stories is that we get to see all the things our systems CAN do but are not permitted to do. A jailbroken Wii could run Gamecube titles perfectly. Not from the optical drive, which was permitted, but from the SD card slot and an app. There could have easily been Virtual Console GC titles. And if the Wii could pull that off, so could a Wii U or Switch. Nintendo chose not to for whatever reasons they hold dear. Is it cool the titles here can be swapped out for ones we love? Sure. But I'd recommend against it.

I don't think people understand that this is an actual hobby. Like this is a game to them. You enjoy Octopath, they enjoy getting into systems and doing things.

10-15 years ago there was a websote dedicated to hackers/crackers. It had levels you had to get past breaking into the network.

@Cobalt it cropped what?

I dont own a NES classic because bleh. Emulation on the SNES classic is quite good though. CRT filter works great in DKC 1 and 2 and Killer Instinct. Those 3d models are the real test.

@Mgene15 N64 classic needs to come first. Only a handful of 64 games would even be launched in such a service anyway. With Rare not being a second party and all now. 64 classic that's hacked is the only solution for HDMI.

@Seacliff what is their strategy though? They are actively selling the NES classic right now. Has more games, and comes with replica NES controllers. How would a Nintendo fanboy (someone who lives Nintendo and owns everything) use each?

@sleepinglion The Wii is literally just an overclocked GameCube.

@KoopaSlayer92 Nintendo can't freely add games cause some of those games are licensed own by other companies not to mention if Nintendo got caught putting games they had no permission to include on there then they could easily get hit with a lawsuit. My guess for why they didn't include all their first party games is probably to stir up interest in the long term. If they include everything from the get-go it wouldn't create buzz in the product.

@Trajan You enjoy buying things, I enjoy breaking into your home and stealing them all and pissing on your couch. Different people, different strokes, right? All's good in the end, right?

It's just a hobby of mine, don't get upset man.

What's the point though? These games obviously won't work online and if your console is already hacked then you're already running an NES emulator on it i assume.

@Blizzia Except they're breaking into their own house. This is device level hacking. They are not breaking into unauthorized networks.

They're literally doing the same thing as jailbreaking an iphone.

@Trajan They're breaking the terms of use. And no, they're not breaking into their own house.

Their own house would be their Switch, and software they own. They do not own the NES library. They're borrowing it. That's why it's a subscription. If they stopped being subscribers, they'd no longer have access to the library, but still have access to all their normal software as well as their console.

So yeah, me breaking into your house and stealing all your shit is exactly the same thing. Just a hobby mate.

@KoopaSlayer92 Because they have to make them playable online. It takes time and resources to do that. I dont know hoe much though.

@Blizzia Do you comprehend what they are even doing? All they are doing is swapping ROM files from the NES launcher to those that they add.

They are adding games that aren't a part of the subscription. They are however using the emulation software Nintendo has provided. Just like the NES classic.

TOS means Nintendo has the right to ban them from their services. But they can do whatever they want with the hardware. They own the hardware.

And at the end of the day its just a tablet.

@Alto Heres the stance I cant understand. 'Nintendo is a business and needs to be supported'.

No. Businesses need to provide people with what they need.

Put these games on the Switch Nintendo and people will buy them from you. Offer convienience and stop this practice of trying to create the illusion of rarety.

Yeah, hacking a service that checks legitimacy constantly doesn't sound very smart...

@Trajan You're not allowed to swap ROM files from the NES launcher. What do you not comprehend?

They are not using the emulation software Nintendo has provided. They're modifying files within the software application that they are borrowing from Nintendo, which breaks the terms of use for borrowing said application.

It's the same as me breaking into your house and replacing your Switch with another Switch.

It's not the same "item".

EDIT: Replied before your edit.

Here's the rest: Yes, they can do "whatever" they want with the hardware. The NES library is not part of the hardware. It's software part of a subscription service under the explicit rule of the TOS. Modifying it breaks the TOS. Which means Nintendo can legally ban them from using the software they're modifying.

I'm not condoning this, but ... sigh if it's this easy to add games to this service, then why doesn't Nintendo simply preempt this and also a general dissatisifcation with the number of games available, by offering a more substantial service in the first place.

This reminds me of a friend, who 'hacked' his Vita just beause he really wanted to play Valkyrie Profile on it. He would have gladly paid for it, but SE felt no need or desire to put it up on the PSN store ... not because the Vita couldn't run, it sure can, but for some other reason.

I'm not saying this makes it right, but just like back in the day when Napster was running amok, so to speak, only part of appeal was 'piracy' as such, the other part was convenience: mp3s were simply more convenient than CDs or all the DRM'ed alternatives the industry was offering, that would only work under very specific circumstances.

You could also look at Steam, no exactly a popular service in its nascent stages, when it replaced WON, but it won people over by a rapidly expanding catalogue of games, features like cloud-saving, family-sharing, voice- and audio-chat and very generous discounts, not to mention cooperation with services like Humble Bundle, as well as one of the best, if not THE best curated storefronts for videogames on the planet.

Again convenience and value are the best ways to fight piracy in my book. Now, you will never stop all people from cracking/hacking their device, because for some folks that is just a hobby or a challenge , but you can make it, and esp. monetizing it, way less enticing and you can certainly make it less appealling for average users to bother with it.

@Blizzia You've changed your analogy, which tells me you did not understand what they were doing.

Yes. Same thing everyone does with the classic minis. Enough so that on the SNES version they left a message for modders.

And the end of the day, they're not harming you. They did this to see if they could. They're only effecting their own consoles, and nothing on the network.

With a hacked Switch you can probably put emulators up to Wii/dolphin on it. Hell, some guy on reddit has Half life running on his snes classic. That would make more sense if they were just trying to run ROMs. They wanted to see what this program was and its security. It was a game for them.

@Trajan Haven't changed anything mate.

Are the classic minis part of a subscription service? No. You've bought the hardware and the software. You own it.

Within NSO, there is no hardware to own. You're borrowing software. You don't own it. It's NOT the same thing.

And what do you mean they're not harming me? Of course they are. Lo and behold, Nintendo is undoubtedly going to waste time looking into patching this or doing something about it instead of maybe trying to improve their atrocious subscription service.

You can keep trying to play it off as "it's just a hobby" or "it's a game to them", but while this might be extreme... Murdering people is a game for some. Does that make it any more harmless? No.

"Modders used their already modded system to add some software to an app on the system."
"That was fast!"
No, it wasn't. It's just that easy if you have a modded system.

Since there are random legitimacy checkups I wonder how fast those systems will be banned if they ever connect online again without reverting back to the original..

@Cobalt well we are using Nintendo logic here so basically, eww emulator = no profits but we must use one, thus better then what they could have done.

Hospitals around the world have become inundated with people hurt by this... oh, wait...

If you want something done right, do it yourself ! 😁🤣

Good for them.

If your Switch is banned and you lose online functionality, is it even worth it? If you really want to play NES games on the go, couldn't these guys just download them on their phone?

Doesn't seem very smart to me.

I'm happy with the NES games so far, and hope we get games like Castlevania in the future! Thanks, Nintendo!

@Majora101 Lovely avatar! Mode on!

@Trajan

The emulator crops 24 pixels of the games in height :/
There is an upscale X5 on the screen, which is totally dumb because the native resolutions height of a NES game is 240.

240 X 5 = 1200, so how to place 1200 pixels with 1080 available ?
Simple, take off 120 pixels on screen ( 120 is the upscale of 24 X 5 ).

I don't know why anybody would risk this, just get a NES mini and stick all the ROMs you'd ever want on there without Nintendo finding out, with the Switch you can be sure even Nintendo will at some point find out and permaban your account, and all that over some NES-games?

Jeez how bad is Nintendo’s online security at the moment. Does this happen on Xbox live and psn all the time as well and just doesn’t get talked about or is Nintendo’s just terrible?

Well if Nintendo are going to be wilfully stupid.

I just want the SNES game Plok, since it's brilliant and has never seen a proper VC release...

Lol.

@Cobalt " I don't call a good emulator, an emulator that crop the games by 24 pixels in heigth, that brings a crappy CRT filter and that can be hacked at the launch date... Maybe you, but not me ! "

Well it's been developed by the NERD studio located in Paris. And I agree with you, nothing good come from France.

@Cobalt

?? My Nes classic doesn't crop games - and I couldn't find anything about it on the net. Maybe there are some TV settings to solve it?

I have no issue with "hacking" news..
But I’ve written 15 awesome Homebrew titles for 3DS, this year, and I ain’t got no news posts!! waaah

@Cobalt That's pretty poor, if the case...
Thinking about this, I wonder whether the 'weekly check in' was because they were already aware of a vulnerability, as whatever security they have on this was so quickly circumvented using knowledge from the NES Mini. Its not a service I'd sign up for anyway in its current state, personally.

@Blizzia

"Within NSO, there is no hardware to own. You're borrowing software. You don't own it. It's NOT the same thing."

What if I make a legal backup copy of the NES game I own and load that software onto the Switch, hardware that I legally own? One could side load emulators that don't use Nintendo's official emulators at all. A dumb idea either way unless you don't care on getting the Switch banned. But long term Nintendo will shut down the Switch online program anyway opening up opportunities to use the Switch hardware in ways it wasn't designed.

@Tasuki why are they gloryfing anything its news and its nintendo. They are reporting facts.
Plus how long did nintendo have to launch this apart from its mehhhh. It got cracked in 5 minutes.

@bitleman said :"Well it's been developed by the NERD studio located in Paris. And I agree with you, nothing good come from France."

I know that its NERD but if I follow you're way of thinking, yeah McDonalds makes disgusting greacy food, so nothing's good from the US... :/
What a smart way of thinking... ^^

@NintendoPete, sure you don't find anything on the net, I discovered that yesterday. And no it's not the TVs, it's the emulator.

@Ristar24, yeah that's pretty poor like you said... :/
Like the CRT filter is disgusting too, how you can launch something that bad ? I don't get it.

@cleveland124 Feel free to make a legal backup copy of the NES game - providing the original game that you own isn't copy protected of course - and load it onto the Switch if you want.

But don't use the NES emulator software Nintendo lets you borrow as part of Nintendo Switch Online to emulate it. That's not yours. And it's not meant to be used with your backup copy, even assuming it is legal. It's not an emulator that you put your titles on, it's a service where Nintendo distributes digital licenses for NES software which you can then play while you're subscribed.

Get your console banned by all means by modifying it. It's your hardware, but Nintendo is in its full right to restrict access to everything that isn't the hardware you bought.

It's pretty tiring to discuss these things as it all boils down to something simple: You own the console, but everything Nintendo provides, such as their eShop, the ability to redownload purchased software, online play, subscription and everything added in the subscriptions... That's something they can prevent you from using, because you don't own it.

Do something that doesn't obey the rules, and take the punishment.

Why are hackers so desperate to play more Nes games? is it really worth a ban?

Geez....just get a psp or vita and hack away. There, portability and can add snes etc. oh you want to play on big screen too? Get an nes or snes mini and hack that instead. Why risk your Switch??

@Blizzia yes it is against the TOS. What is your point? Again, they did it to find out. Generally companies hire people like this to test for them. Guess Nintnedo doesn't employ any EH guys.

@Medic_alert totally agree. Wii U VC was at a snails pace!! 1 game a week for a long time except we got the final fight and Donkey Kong country trilogies in one shot- other than that It was pure agony! So I’m hoping this online service will be better and much quicker paced but so far I don’t know. DARE I mention GameCube???? Or even Wii games for the service??

@Trajan Nintendo has actively been seeking guys like these for years. They don't want to work for Nintendo, because they're not doing it to help Nintendo. If they help Nintendo fix the loopholes, they can't make use of them, so that part is kinda obvious.

@Audiobrainiac This silly hacking of nice consoles befall my people as well! Lol

@Cobalt Complaining about the CRT filter is absolutely ridiculous and undeniably marks you as a troll. You know it’s optional, right? And it’s not even the default option.

Watching people gettin angry about the fact that hackers just do what they usually do, make use of the systems they buy makes me smile
Oooh these scummy hackers !! Thieves !!
@ClassSonicSatAm they don't care about being banned or whatever, they just want to find the little secrets on a hardware we still know little
People just sayin "oh geez just get a psp" don't get it, the goal is not to actually play NES games, the goal is to find the leaks, to understand what is going on with the app, what is sent to Nintendo or what isn't is only a little part of a whole. These people are just having fun their own way. They are not always thieves who just want to steal games yknow

@thesilverbrick

You probably don't get the problem and judging people the way you do IS trolling !

Now, the CRT filter is absolutely disgusting, it's a fact !
But the biggest complaint is the scaling by 5 of the NES games.
There is 24 pixels in height missing... That pretty amateur.

How it looks on the Switch :

How it looks with my own shader :

And don't forget to look at the curtain on the top of the images, you clearly see the missing pixels on the Switch.

@Cobalt Its odd, guess they thought 'its good enough'.

Similar thing with the new 'Capcom Beat 'Em up Bundle', from what I see there are no filter or screen size options on that collection at all... Double Impact on the 360 and PS3 had far superior presentation and emulation options. Even the PSP Capcom collections had screen size options.

Greed and incompetence backfires again.

@Ristar24 yep, and there is another problem too with the Capcom Beat'em up bundle, the games are all compressed in there width... :/

Again, an amateur job... :/

@Cobalt Why is the CRT filter even a problem worth complaining about if it’s hidden away in the options and can be completely ignored?

good.

N needs to do better. i'm 100% behind all of this because N's management has their heads shoved up their rectums.

@Blizzia All the major tech companies hire them. I'm sure if they tried....

Most of these guys seem to just issue security warnings. Hell take the guy in Splatoon telling them to fix their security.

@Cobalt

yuck, that's unfortunate.

capcom is about as lazy as they come though so i'm surprised it even got ported over to the switch.

While I'm usually not against people trying to make the device they own do what they want, when it comes to these kind of things, and so soon, I can't help but feel that this only serves as an argument for manufacturers to implement even more restrictive DRM in the end. And when that happens, everyone lose.

I mean, I understand that to some, this is seen as a challenge. I can relate to that in some way, a lot of people likes a good challenge. But playing emulated games on the go is possible through tons of devices. There are many gaming portable out there, some linux-based, some Android-based, some with custom "os", that can do that. But then again, the whole point being, I guess, making the Switch do it as well.

It's just that... I don't know. All of this is wrong. Especially so soon after this lauch. Like I said, only gives more reasons for even more drastic DRM. And no one wants this.

@Cobalt Yeah, it looks like a very basic offering, I was somewhat surprised with the high review rating here because of the lack of features and basic presentation. I wonder why they dont put more effort in to how they present old games, as I'd guess the audience for retro tend to be more aware of this stuff.

@Trajan The splatoon guy was a bit of a joke though, as when he actually cheated, the system was under development xD The "test"build of it automatically took him out 24 hours after cheating as well, Nintendo didn't bother with anything.

@thesilverbrick don't you get that there are a lot of people who played on CRT back then ? Do you get that if that option is there, is to give the feeling that you play on a CRT ? Do you get that it's not professional at all to bring something that horrible ? etc...

And like I said, the worst is that the emulator CROPS 24 pixels in height, just because they decided to scale the NES game by time 5, which is totally stupid. (240 lines X 5 = 1200 lines... 1200 lines on a 1080 lines TV Screen, yayyyy smarttttt !)

@Ristar24 It's easy to understand...(sadly) !

Just look how the majority of people here and somewhere else react when they get less than the minimum... THEY ARE HAPPY ! :/

So, why the hell Capcom and the others would do an effort ? It costs more money, more time to develop something good etc...
So BECAUSE of the gamers first, and BECAUSE of the laziness of big companies, yeah we get what we deserve... Sad but true...

@Cobalt And why exactly is the CRT filter so bad?

@thesilverbrick DO YOU READ what I explained and DO YOU WATCHED the 2 screen at #109 ??? o_O

Gosh, asking that question is almost insulting !

@thesilverbrick I've not seen the Switch versions, but Eurogamer have a review of the NES Mini which addresses the issues with the scanlines and interpolation, which attempt to simulate a CRT look with visual noise. I hope they will put something up about the Switch emulation for comparison.

While I condone console hacking, ROMS, and Emulation, I would never hack a system I use on a regular basis, I always for the most part wait until they have been moved on from to give the companies my money first.

@electrolite77 Yep. It's mind boggling that in order to get retro games I would want to play on my switch, I would have to hack it because Nintendo does not offer any legal way.

@justin233 Virtual box or vmware should work.

This is why we can't have nice things. It's not even up 24 hours before it's already broken.

Still, I'm guessing the securing of this app is way better than we're thinking considering the hacker specifically states the app uploads a lot of telemetry. Unlike the Mini, you HAVE to use this online at least every 7 days. They're going to know about every hack I'd bet. They're just taking names for now....

@Heavyarms55 "But I have been saying for a while, if Nintendo does not offer more of their legacy retro content, then homebrewers are gonna find a way to do it themselves."

The thing is that Nintendo does do a good job of offering their legacy retro content. It's everyone else's content and/or the stuff caught in property rights jail that never makes it to these services. Out of all the first-party NES games, I think Pro Wrestling is the only one that I could spot that had never made it to the VC before. And now it has. The other Nintendo-published games that have never materialized are all Rare, Irem, or other developer games - or things that require peripherals.

If people are clamoring for Contra or Battletoads or Journey to Silius on these services, then people need to be lobbying/complaining to Konami, Microsoft, and the modern day equivalent of Sunsoft. Nintendo can only do so much.

O great savior hackers, thou shall add SNES and N64 support next, plz.

Nintendo is such a joke...

Look at all the butthurt kids condoning this behavior because they're upset they didn't get what they wanted from Nintendo.

Guess what? Nintendo can't please everyone. And for the record, I don't condone hacking the Nintendo Switch. Hopefully these hackers will get what's coming to them — a swift ban from Nintendo Online and the eShop as well.

@ejf1984
i agree, same for all using it.

Now you're hacking with power!

@brideck If you are speaking in past tense, I would agree. Nintendo used to provide good access to their legacy content on older platforms. Not on the Switch though, and that's what I am talking about.

@Cobalt Honestly, your shader does not do it for me. The cropping is unfortunate in Nintendo's, for sure, and that should be changed.

However, in action, the crawling of the interlacing and feel I get from the official one flips the nostalgia switch for me, while (ironically?) your comparison shader makes me think of what an out-of-touch corporate executive would approve.

If you are just starting with stuff like this, good start, though. It's hard work to get the intangibles right. But yeah, as an old NES kid, I'm not feeling it.

"and is of the belief Nintendo won't be ironing out these vulnerabilities in the online NES library anytime soon." So this exploit that allows this is as versatile as Cubic Ninja on 3DS? Otherwise, I'm confident Nintendo will patch it in a future update, and probably lay down the banhammer for others.

And in 2 weeks crybaby articles about banned Switches and accounts...

I really hope Nintendo doubles down on this and bans every pirate that's doing this.

@aaronsullivan

Probably you don't get that my shader was not made to recreate a poor video signal on a low quality TV... BUT to give the cleanest way to represent a NES (with pur RGB signal) on a real good TV/Monitor.

Because, let's make it clear, when you "offer" NES games to the players OF TODAY and TO PLAY those games ON A MODERN TV, the least that you can do, is to recreate a pur RGB signal on a perfect calibrated CRT screen.

The problem with the CRT filter from Nintendo is that it's ABSOLUTELY not what we got as a result on our CRT TVs back then neither.
My point is simple, Nintendo "believe" that CRT brings a BAD visuals quality with 240p signal when I "scream" to the world that CRTs are THE BEST for a 240p signal.

Two ways of thinking, two different results.

You know, my NES (the real one) output a pure 240 Full-RGB signal and the result on a real good quality CRT TV(with SCART connector) or on a good monitor like a PVM for example, the image is really close to the visual of my shader, really close.

Loving these nes games on switch

@Cobalt I don't know how much overscan you got on PAL TVs (which I'm assuming since you use SCART), but it looks like a lot of NES games were designed to expect NTSC overscan.
(that is, it might do 240 lines, even the NTSC one, but they seemed to expect at the least the top 8 and bottom 8 lines would be lost)
How are those 24 missing lines distributed (which still seems a bit much)?

@Cobalt Your particular desire and taste aside, most people experienced something much closer to what the Nintendo filter is providing, which will trigger sense memory better for them. Seems to me that it was a better choice. I mean, how many people ever experienced these games on a "pure RGB signal on a perfect calibrated CRT screen" so that they'd desire to relive that?

Instead, many will prefer the actual pixel data clearly shown without filters, or something that tugs at the nostalgia by emulating the crudeness of the typical CRT they played on.

For your own preference, that's a cool filter you made, but the audience for it seems like it would be very small to me. Certainly not a group of the size that should have an expectation to be catered to directly. Maybe petition for it, and someone will find value in it. An extra option or two might be fun.

Again, even with TVs cutting off parts of the image, I do think the cut off on the top with scaling was a poor choice. I'd like them to fix that.

you know what ???
I say Amen to them, Nintendo needs to not only put out more games per month, but more of the better ones also,
if Nintendo won't do it, someone should