Former Nintendo Employee Admits He's Frustrated With Switch Online

I just want a service for all sorts of old nintendo games, DS, now that the 3ds is gone, or going to be, gamecube, gameboy, gameboy advanced, wii, just the whole thing!

But I know this is actually asking a lot.

I agree 100%. I like these guys better now that they can be honest. No Zoda’s Revenge is just the beginning of it for me.

Yeah, I kinda get what he means about Ice Hockey and stuff when way better alternatives exist. But retro games suffer problems with licensing and while in an ideal world we could play NHL 94 on Switch, that’s not the reality.

What people are forgetting is that getting games like Ice Hockey is very funny.

Is it good for business? No.
Will I ever play it? No.
Is it frustrating that they add games so slow and those games end up being Ice Hockey for NES? Yes.

Will I laugh every time they add some random scrimblo bimblo (as the kids say) game no one’s ever heard of? Yes. Yes I will.

younger people may not see the value
Ya kidding? I wasn’t even born yet in the nes and snes days and some games that I want to play are from the nes to n64 age!

I just want snes rpgs on nso

I saw this the other day. To get it off my chest, I'm a PC gamer in addition to being a Nintendo fan. That should sum up about how I feel about paying to play games I already paid for online.

With that out of the way, I'm usually pretty positive when it comes to things I like, whether it's movies, shows, and even games. I've liked games many wouldn't like. Nintendo Switch Online is the only thing I'm really critical over.

I really just want basic functions more than anything. Example, I wanted to play Super Mario All-Stars with a friend, I see him online, why can't I simply send a message to him on the console? Instead I have to either call him, or send him a message elsewhere, and he's online on his Switch, he would see that message instantly if I could send it there.

Honestly, I do like some of the SNES and NES stuff, but I feel it's just bonus. Some of those games do interest me, and some games don't.

I basically want this service to be better as a service, classic games are nice, but the service for playing online needs to be better.

It's very refreshing to see former employees talk about the online. Honestly, Kit & Krista's podcast has been pretty good so far, started listening to it shortly after they started it.

Sorry but I love Ice Hockey, when I show the game to my daughter she love it (10 years at the time Wii U platform). Now she's 16.

I just want to be able to communicate with my kids when playing games... seperated dad here.... wake up nintendo.

NSO should had never happen. Nintendo could had easily just migrate all their Wii and Wii U Virtual Console and Wii Ware games to Switch. All they had to do was just rename the brand and use modern emulators. Instead of Wii VC just call it Switch VC. It's really terrible to restart rolling the retro library again every time a new gen start. You could only buy Super Mario World three or so times until you realize it's the same freaking game you already got the last few gens and you're throwing money away just to play it on a shiny new plastic again.

@HexagonSun “younger people may not see the value.” I’m 17. You don’t speak for us. I, and a LOT of other young people still see value in these games, we just don’t see value or reason to pay 50-70$ a year for them, especially when they suffer from things like input lag and dreadful pauses inbetween game updates.

@Snatcher your right. That’s asking for a lot. Why not just invest in a 3ds?? It’s also backwards compatible to the ds.

@EmoGamer Or just filter messages to friends and people you trust. If I sent a message, clearly it's to someone on my friends list, not a random person.

Having a messaging system is fine. If someone sends any toxic message, just delete it or block them. Shouldn't be too hard to implement. I even have my profile set to not receive random friend requests, so Nintendo knows how to do something like it.

Messaging is a standard on any online platform, and could be done safely with friends.

I think my first exposure to ice hockey on NES was through Animal Crossing, and I remember thinking "They should have just put Blades of Steel on here." Nowadays of course I know that would involve licensing issues with Konami, but that just tells me that Konami should be more open to putting NES games on the service that they have no intention of doing anything with.

As much as I blame Nintendo...I also blame players who blindly pay for NSO. Nothing but lack of subscriptions is what's going to change Nintendo's minds over this.

I just want to say that the NSO is stuck in 1990s. That was when Will Smith was in Independence Day and not slapping poor Chris Rock. Nintendo is giving me 1996 and then slapping us in the face with it.

It's refreshing to see someone with his former status be open about his criticisms, which are valid, notably the lack of common sense features.

But he didn't have to do Ice Hockey dirty like that! Lol. IMO, it's easily one of the best "black box"-era games on the NES and dramatically better than the other sports. It has a lot of charm and you could customize your lineups, adjust the speed of the game, and the period length, plus the soundtrack is by Soyo Oka (Pilotwings, Super Mario Kart, and Wario's Woods). Blades of Steel is better, but I think both are worth playing. Speaking of, why isn't that on NSO yet?

I get tha these guys left Nintendo, that their previous show probably had many restrictions on what they can or can't say in there and whatever you wanna add but, right now, to come and say this, it feels like they are desperate for street cred, i mean, they worked for Nintendo more than 10 years each, if they had a problem then, why not left early? Why wait this long? I only saw their first episode and its not like they wanted to left, they did it because they didnt want to relocate to Washington and thats fine but to come and start critizicing just for the sake of clics? I don't know, controversy for controversy sake and it does not feel right to me. Dont get me wrong, they have a right to voice their opinion, I just think they could have done it in better taste.

I agree 100%. There’s no reason they can’t provide a consistent release schedule, especially when people are paying. We’re talking about retro systems with libraries of 1000+ games

I will not rest till Nintendo releases Urban Champion!!! Give it to us you jerks!😝

@Spoony_Tech as someone who has fond memories of playing this at a really young age with my dad...yes, I agree.

So how many more times are NL going to promote the podcast? Other members of Joe Public I guess do podcasts and have opinions. Charging people to play roms i dunno, sounds a bit shady. Wonder where Nintendo get the roms from. I would be interesting to see the top of 10 games played online on switch and from that which actually need NSO.

How is this shocking? They handled the Virtual Console in a similar fashion, especially on 3DS. They dropped a collection of hits and then drip fed us duds. THAT'LL fight emulation, Nintendo, great job!

Playstation fans with new Playstation Plus middle tier subscription can enjoy state of the art games like Death Stranding, God of War, Marvel’s Spider-Man, Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Mortal Kombat 11 and Returnal. They are still not happy. And we get what... Nes hockey instead?

I think we need to be realistic here.
I bet Nintendo has asked around for games to put on their service. With the experience with the Virtual Console, they probably have decided to sale the games themselves for much higher price.
If look, all the gems are available for sale for the Switch.
As long as people are willing to pay for them, why would they give Nintendo the licenses?

I agree with kit. I think NES, SNES, possibly some N64 games, are like the silent movies of video games for younger people that didn't grow up with them.

@MarcusIsCool Thats true, might as well at this point LOL.

Ice Hockey is far from the worse game on the service. It’s not about what todays kids want to play, it’s about getting as many games on to the service as possible, and if some happen to be bad games, so what. They still existed. You’re not supposed to like every game on the service. I don’t want someone at Nintendo running quality control reducing the amount of games we see on the service even further. I’m all for quantity over quality here, as we will still get quality games too. And there will be some bad games on the PlayStation service too.

I think the answer here is that Nintendo simply doesn't care about supporting its legacy content all that much. Subscriber numbers are high and show no indication of reversing, so why should they invest the additional money and attention beyond what they already are? Of course it would be a nice gesture from them and would net them a lot more goodwill, but I think it's always important to keep the perspective that this is a publicly traded company that's responsible to its shareholders. They don't owe the fans anything, and their first priority will always be chasing the most reasonable profits possible.

He’s correct stating there should be a plan instead of mystery about what the service will deliver. Nintendo expects you to understand a promise that they don’t detail. It’s kind of bizarre in a sense.

@SwitchVogel their metrics may be satisfied for now, but like all companies they’ll need to sweeten the pitch come a new generation, particularly when there has been complaints. They have a strong brand now, yes, but they can’t be surprised when that doesn’t extend to their online offerings after a while if they continue to decline some of these improvements

@Snatcher ya. And with the eshop closing very early next year, you might as well. You don’t want to miss out on games permanently.

@NinChocolate That's the point, though, it never has extended to their online; Nintendo has been in last place with their online services as long as online has been a mainstay of gaming platforms. That poor reputation didn't mean a thing when it came time for them to start charging for their online, and it won't mean a thing when their service is just as wonky when next gen rolls around. They'll still be selling subs by the millions, regardless of what enthusiast communities like this have to say.

@SwitchVogel I’ll just say that while the Switch brand is strong right now, Nintendo is still beholden to things that other companies are, and they won’t be able to assume in the future millions of subs without improving things. I’m sure there was a time when the Wii and DS brands were too big to not deliver similar next generation results, but that’s what happened, the Wii U was not a seller and now Nintendo relies on the sales of a single hardware line that’s not going to match the combined sales they had with the Wii and DS. I think Nintendo is still beholden to downswings in business if they stagnate.

That was a long way to say he's no retro gamer beyond the few immortal classics. When you're one, you don't ask for reasons to play Ice Hockey on NES, and previously unheard-of titles tend to be a plus. As for "younger players", this term is generalized enough to include a lot of folks in whose eyes any release over 5 years old belongs in a museum. Including hardware ones.😅

Transparency wouldn't hurt, but at this point I doubt many people put "Nintendo" and "roadmap transparency" in one sentence anyway.😏

It is abundantly clear Nintendo don't see an online subscription service as their main strategy. It's simply another way of delivering older games. And that is pretty much the plan.
I don't blame them. Both SONY and M$ wish they were as prolific and had the same software sales as Nintendo.

i see subscriptions as ways to get people to pay for stuff they don't want, it's renting a bundle. i'm mostly bitter about paying for online though, well i don't, but i think my attitude would be different if it was an actual retro game service and not weirdly tied together with bleeding their user base. i really think nso is an unnecessary extra barrier that hurts games.

It's rubbish compared to ps+ and gamepass etc. Give us a consistent handful of eShop games each month and I'll be satisfied , just like the other rival services, yaknow relevant games, not chalkdust from an old blackboard found in some ancient Japanese school from 100 years ago. I have to agree with the guy in the article. Newish games would make it more worth what they have it costing now. Either that or lower it back to $30 for the year, preferably $25. The 64 games were good but not an additional $30 good. Should just been an extra $6-$10 upgrade cost. I actually liked it when Nintendo was the only game company that had free* online service. I wouldn't mind if it went back to free99 either.

@Travisemo007 thats fair but im kind of a bee-atch for nintendo soooooooooooo...

I think the most important thing they can do is yeah be transparent about what is coming and when. When is GB coming? When is GBA coming? What are the lineups for N64 and Genesis? Do they have plans for more NES and SNES games, as those have stopped ever since the expansion pack came out? Just answering those questions would go a long way so that consumers know what the plan is.

As far as Gamecube games I think it would be great to add that once Switch 2 comes out in a handful of years. During Switch's lifecycle just fill out the Nes, Snes, N64, Genesis, GB, and GBA libraries.

The prices of the subscriptions are great, N64 emulation has been fixed so that's good, there's just a complete lack of clarity on what and when is stuff coming.

Also it'd be nice to get more free new games, like say one every 6 months would be fine. Start by adding back Mario 35 because it made no sense to make that game and offer it only to take it away after half a year. Tetris 99 and Pacman 99 are both fantastic. Keep adding new games occasionally to keep thing interesting. Perfectly fine if they're simple games as long as they're fun.

The main problem people have is that they never know when new systems and games and what new systems and games are coming. Hell back when it first came out there were people who thought that it would only ever have NES games just because Nintendo never projected their plans for the service to consumers.

I've been hoping for GameCube support since the Wii U.
Didn't Reggie promise us both GameCube games AND two working Gamepads?

It would help to not let People buy again and again the same Stuff they had original and on the E-Shop.
Nintendo is just not reliable in online Stuff.

The biggest plus for any subscription service is your getting a lot of content for your cash. The biggest minus of any subscription service is if if you don’t like what they have to offer or run out of stuff you do, then you’re just paying for the hope of what may or may not be coming next. And the truth is there is a finite amount of ‘good’ or ‘great’ NES, SNES and N64 games that have aged well and are not tied up with license issues.

So retro games are old, thought that was kind of the point.

Oh great another KIT and Krysta post!

I pay for nso, only to play online, I don't care about old games. I'm old, but not nostalgic with old times.

I would like nso improve as Nintendo service online, Improve communication between friends, group audio chat, damn something to give use the friend list. Feel like the system is really online not to rent 30 years old games

I dunno, I'm quite happy to play more hidden gem like games on these services like Demon's Crest and Ignition Factor. I get it if it bugs someone who just wants the same like 30 or 40 SNES games on each compilation like this, but I'm quite charmed with the weirder game selections. People need to get the stick out their butts and try some of these games instead of waiting around for games they've already beat 800 times.

There's some fairly decent games on all repped consoles. You're doing yourself a disservice if you're skipping Ristar or Alien Soldier or Fzero for the 64 because you're butthurt angry waiting for Mario RPG.

All I want out of this service moving forward though is Banjo Tooie and Chameleon Twist. Maybe a couple of the Rush games too.

I just wish I could order a N64 Controller from NSO+ so I can play the N64 games properly.

@johnvboy Do you ever get deja vu when you check in here sometimes?

I think it's hard to argue against a little bit of transparency. At least with the expansion, we got an idea of what was coming. While that's a nice step, it doesn't work that well.

MS only let's you know what Games with Gold games are coming a week or so in advance. Of course, they are trying to get people to subscribe to GPU which you do usually know what's coming and both are regularly updated.

I just want fossil fighters back…..

@WiltonRoots,

All the time.

I would love a “Gamecube for Switch” retail line - in the same Switch boxes but Indigo instead of Red branding. And they can mostly be just modest remasters (almost ports) on the cartridge. I would be happy with that;

Luigi’s Mansion, Paper Mario TTYD etc.

Seems like the total of our comments here make the point: what the heck is NSO meant to be exactly? I would certainly appreciate Nintendo clearly defining the service. Right now it feels more like two tiers comprised of unrelated bits of content and functionality that are grafted together. Which leads to frustration amongst users when each component individually feels lacking or inadequate.

Good point above about how subscribing to NSO/Expansion Pak is more like placing a bet on a hoped for future than buying a service that you are convinced by in the present.

I recently subscribed to the base NSO and I’m sure I’ll get plenty of values over the course of a year from it. But I’m not sure about renewing the subscription or bumping up to the Expansion in the future.

@johnvboy Yep. They done a drift article this week?

Like... GameCube Virtual Console or NSO collection on Switch is super, super unlikely to happen simply because of the Switch not having analogue triggers. Nintendo aren't prepared to swallow the customer support grief of people buying a game that won't work properly with the controllers you have. I know they did it with SNES/N64 on the Wii Virtual Console but (i) I bet they were dealing with plenty of complaints and (ii) they had a Pro Controller in wide circulation from the start.

Gamecube and Wii games NEED to at least be on the eshop for purchase and download. They are too big to just be a part of an app.

@Tasuki I see what you're saying but at the same time it's not wise to bite the hand that feeds you.

1.) NLife should just hire Kit and Krysta. These articles must get a lot of clicks.
2.) I agree with Kit. In fact, I just let my Switch Online subscription expire. I told my kids they are welcome to split the cost with me if they want. No one has spoken up yet.

@ancientlii You're not the only one who thinks this. I do feel if online multiplayer was free and left alone, and NSO was more of a classic gaming service akin to Netflix but for classic gaming, I don't think anyone would be as disappointed.

The Expansion Pack tier kind of defeats the "pay one price" idea. Honestly, I wouldn't want tiers. What's stopping Nintendo from saying "Want GameCube games? Give us $100/year."

Also, I wouldn't mind if games were sold individually in addition to a service. Using a streaming video subscription, I've seen movies via Netflix and Hulu. If I like said movie, I still will buy a DVD of it. Options are not bad to have.

Right now, I just pay for the base subscription to play online with friends, that's it (one of which lives in another state as he moved there). I wouldn't mind NSO being a subscription for classic games if it only was that (access to some of the SNES stuff is something I do like).

NL definitely goes looking for these kinds of articles. I remember the days of healthy optimism for Nintendo on this page. Now, they just pine for the Wii U and 3DS days when the audience was smaller.

Kind of glad this guy doesn't work at Nintendo anymore. A game like Ice Hockey would never see a purchase option, nor would the majority of these games on the service. I think it's the point, too. When some of these games had VC releases, I bet they didn't move AT ALL. If we do see collections, or some kind of VC equivalent, you can bet many of these games on the service won't for sale. You'll have the big ones: Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Final Fantasy or major franchises. Ice Hockey, Balloon Fight, Golf and other generic titles... won't happen. Same can be said about these Clay Fighters and other titles that you would've found on sale at the toy store or EB Games back in the day.

Kit and Krysta have finally redeemed themselves in my eyes today...

NSO is just...so...bad.... I pay an annual fee for cloud saves and online which I've only ever used for Splatoon. It's not really worth a dime for anything else.

@VR32X sometimes I just think that Nintendo wants to forget that Startropics is a thing, and an IP of their own no less. However if we got the 1st game on the NES Online service, it's only matter of time we get Zoda's Revenge right... right?

@GrailUK
The only issue is that its the only way of them delivering online games, and from the info on the new ps+ it seems like its their method too.

i feel like this gen Microsoft have definitely handled their online service the best and i dont really play many xbox games.
gamepass seems like fantastic value for money but it also allows you to purchase their games so being able to access your games isnt dependent on a service.

as mentioned before i dont have any issue with having a rental like service as a way to play their old games but i feel like there should be an option to buy them considering they are running natively on switch and not cloud based, it also feels like there is a lack of options, a lot of retro collections allow for things like screen size options, filters and button remapping, and while the online is nice to have it does feel like its lacking a lot of standard features.

@SwitchVogel
Yeah it does feel like that in regards to legacy content.
it is a pity because Nintendo has such a large amount of quality retro content that i would be more than willing to buy, for example if they did something like what konami and namco are doing with their castlevania, contra, megaman etc collections only with the likes of mario, kirby, zelda and whatnot i would be all over it especially if the likes of M2 were involved.

even something like themed bundles i would enjoy, it definitely would seem like a way to release those smaller games which otherwise wouldnt sell as well (such as a sports themed one with ice hockey and tecmo bowl etc)

in the end its just my usual main gripe with nintendos legacy content on switch, i really just want an option to buy these games so theres at least some small "safety net" for when the service goes down rather than the games just vanishing.

I just don't get why we don't have GBC and GBA yet. It's been five years! I wanted to play through the Metroid series, and there was no legit way to play through Fusion. Not one. Closest way was if I bought a WiiU, which is an old console at this point!

@EriXz I don't think criticizing Nintendo and the NSO necessarily equates to they having been unhappy when working for the company. I wouldn't necessarily say that criticizing Nintendo's decisions was

1) The function of Nintendo Minute and

2) Probably not the smartest thing to do as an employee. At least not in such a public manner and at least not this hill to die on.

Now they have a platform to make those observations, as fans, and it seems appropriate to me. I admit I haven't listened/watched this episode. But it sounds to me the criticism (which is valid) was done in a constructive way.

I would like it if the plan was clearer, but I also acknowledge that I don't know what the challenges are for doing that. Yes fan projects and emulators already emulate these games, but that was work done over a very long period of time. Anyone who has used a less stable and established emulator should know it doesn't come out looking like that Day One. Huge slowdown, disappearing textures, physics bugs...all probably worse than the fog being set wrong. And of course Nintendo's offering shouldn't be that rough, they are selling it and are a professional company, but that doesn't change the work behind the scenes needed to get it done and make sure it's right. It's quite possible progress is not regular enough to have a plan.

Also, I've never liked the "games I've never heard of" kind of rhetoric. Every game was a game you never heard of once. Are some of the latter day releases stone cold classics? Maybe not. But that doesn't make them all bad games.

Rerelease GameCube and Dreamcast games, makes loads of money. Simple really.

Also, give us the option to purchase them outright, a lot of us like the ownership and collection of these games to play forever. Not some service that can be taken away at any point.

@soimun Two consoles that were considered flops, one of which killed Sega pretty much? Really sorry but that doesn’t sound like a money spinner to me. Might make a very small pocket of enthusiasts happy but sadly (I love both consoles) I think that ship sailed unfortunately. 🙁

@VR32X @Luigivaldo I know right?! Just give me more Startropics!!! Absolutely love that franshise.

i dont think the problem is the lack of systems though that is a problem and they should have gamecube and game boy games, but the bigger problem is the lack of actual games on the system like there is over 1500 snes games but on nso it has like 50, it should really have atleast half

@ModdedInkling Yeah, I unsubscribed from NSO. Now I just play the NES and SNES games I want to play on my 3DS. Now, if they add GCN games, maybe Wii? I would totally get that.

"former Nintendo employee"..

You got me w that. I wouldn't have clicked if i had known it was kit, who has a podcast to tell us his thoughts, I don't need to read them here. I thought it was some inside source, or someone who actually helped develop or publish games...🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

@MarcusIsCool some people don't want to play on a tiny screen (bad eyes, or for many reasons). On 3ds we are forced to, sadly.

@HexagonSun Paying so much every year for games I bought for a few bucks on my Wii U is just crazy non sense

sigh… Listen Ninty (Navi Voice), I would literally gladly pay $100/year for a comprehensive & extensive Nintendo Virtual Console Subscription Service (basically like every other popular streaming/subscription service currently) if Nintie would just give us all the platforms + catalogues we want on competent legal proprietary emulators i.e. with rewind, fast-forward, turbo, more save states, downloadable/uploadable/transferrable community shared saves, cheats, scanned game manuals, multiple suspend play, custom button-mapping, online netplay with crosschat, lobbies, invites, filters, borders/themes and/or widescreen adaptation etc... most of which is already included in some notable free emulators out in the wild for some time now. It would be better if this was all contained in one giant categorized “Nintendo Switch Online Archives/Virtual Console App” as well, rather than segmented with separate apps for each platform.

Nintendo has such a beloved and cherished archive of gaming history... yet they either neglect it, withhold it or give it little TLC. C'mon pick it up and get it together with the NSO service quick, fast and in a hurry please Nintendo! ... Cuz this? This ain't it right now.

... Wun can only hope.

A mostly complete road map should have been done at the beginning to give everyone a level of expectation of value.

Shut up, NES Ice Hockey's awesome.

Though the service itself is terrible I agree there, there should be an option to invidually buy the games you want.

For me the most frustrating thing about it is that I can buy and own retro games from other companies but not Nintendo ones, on a Nintendo console... surreal

NSO still doesn’t bother me. The only thing wish is that they could nail down new game additions monthly.

@HexagonSun So basically you prefer paying $50 every year to be allowed to play a few and keep paying every year? Servers shutdown or not, I’ll always have access on my Wii and Wii U, you won’t as soon as they decide to shutdown the service

Online services, the eShop and management of the back catalogue are three areas where Nintendo are simply doing a poor job.

What are the likely reasons why?

Lack of vision - highly unlikely given how creative their products and roadmap are, but it's technically possible that they have poor management looking after this area.

Lack of resource- highly likely given how tight Nintendo generally are... but it is very short sighted to not invest in staff to look after three key money making areas of your business. EShop, NSO and Back Catalogue are huge revenue opportunities that are simply not optimised or performing anywhere near their potential when you compare numbers to the Switch install base.

Back Catalogue is particularly frustrating. Why are there no discounted range of old games on Switch? It's 5 years... Mario Odyssey should be £30 now. You are literally releasing Splatoon 3 in a few months yet sell Splatoon 2 for full price still... it's simply mis management.

Invest some money in your core services... bring in some new management that understand Online services and subscriptions.

I think it depends if you grew up with these games or not? If you were born in the N64 or Gamecube era, then yeah, a lot of the NES and SNES games probably aren't good or you don't care about them. I'll use Ice Hockey as an example, since Kit used that as an example. I bought that game brand new when it came out (still have it), and my friends and I played that game nonstop. It was was/is a lot of fun. I'm nostalgic for that game. And that's a lot of what Nintendo still does. Plays off nostalgia for people who grew up with the NES and SNES. Do I think they need to do that same kind of service for people who grew up with Gamecube or DS or GBA? Absolutely! But that's one reason I'll always choose Nintendo over Sony, is because Nintendo still pays homage to their past.

I agree with him, Nintendo’s been all over the place. Adding these obscure games would be fine if they also added some more recognizable titles too. But worse, the additions are sporadically added too. There’s literally no road map when games are coming.

Again, who the f-lip are these 2 people and why are their opinions considered news by NL? WTFF (what the freaking frick, before the babies that nl hire as mods ban me again) Am I missing?!!

Switch online is just there because xbox and sony have a service gamers expected nintendo to do the same. So they cobbled something together slapped a badge on it and said there you go. Much like now when Sony introduced there new tiered service people expected day 1 releases, which obviously Sony doesn't have to the same as xbox.

@Effortless-gamer They'll soon become part of the Eurogamer network, hence the million articles warming them up to be able to start off with a decently sized audience.

In terms of new platforms they should include on the NSO service... take GameCube out of the running. Those ISO's are too big, it's never going to happen.
GB and GBA on the other hand? They should be in ALREADY. Those two consoles literally have one of the best games libraries in the history of man. GBA especially. Where's every Pokemon game from Red to Ruby? Where's Kirby/Pokemon Pinball? Where's Metroid Fusion and Zero Mission (NO METROID 2 GET BACK IN YOUR HOLE) where's Super Mario Land 1, 2 and Wario Land? Where's Golden Sun, Fire Emblems of numerous stripes, Mario Golf, Links Awakening, Minish Cap or Sonic Advance? Where? Where? Where?

@Funneefox That's it exactly. I believe Kit is saying that the perceived value isn't there for many players. Nintendo has a rich history of games that a lot of people enjoy but they aren't focusing on what people want. We want more regular releases communicated to us. We want the option to buy individual games to keep like the Wii VC had. We would love to see more platforms like GB, GBA DS, GameCube and maybe even a few select Wii titles or ports. With support going away for older eshops we just want convenient ways to play these classics on a modern console like Switch.

The whole thing is pathetic. Wii U has better legacy offerings. And I still can’t understand why there’s no purchase option if you want to buy and download any of your favorites! Makes no sense.

Most NES games don't do it for me - because I don't know them and they are frankly too hard. The SNES on the other hand gave us some amazing games - like a Link to the Past, Donkey Kong Country Trilogy, Super Metroid, etc. And the N64 is also going in the right direction. But it's really sad how infrequent the library gets updated. Nintendo should be more upfront with what they are going to release next on the services.