@ikki5 if we're talking about core series which was the topic of conversation, and further more home iterations, and discount all the various spinoffs, remakes and re-releases that can largely be skipped, 15 Marios, 9 Zeldas and 9 DKs in 30 some-odd years isn't too bad at all. If you just break it down into 3D era, where the majority of folks consider 3D Marios/Zeldas the core experience that number goes down even more. In the case of DK, there only been one each console generation, with Mario and Zelda getting 2 games in one generation at one point (not counting the cross-gen Twilight Princess).
That said, Nintendo has way too many dormant properties that they could utilize to fill out their library outside of all the various spinoffs they utilize Mario for.
With all the NX news and rumors swirling, and development for the Wii U appearing to die down, I wouldn't be surprised if they just looked at everything and decided to move development to the NX. But I wish devs would stop being so ambiguous with time frames, just be honest for Pete's sake! It's not that hard.
@hYdeks to be fair, Nintendo didn't even support their own system with advertisements and really that's the job of the publisher, not the OEM. Nintendo's biggest fault is not communicating what the Wii U is. I brought mine over to my girlfriend's house the other day, she's not much of a gamer granted, but she thought the Wii U was just a controller attachment, so yep, that stigma is still lingering, even almost three years later.
Though I do agree with you in that the way they treated 3rd parties in the past is sort of coming back to bite them, but at the same time, third parties cannot be completely absolved from blame. Furthermore, there are a few Nintendo fans, even in this thread that has bought third party games (with the admission we may be in the minority), so way to use blanket statement blaming all Nintendo fans😊 Even then, we can only take so many gimped and late ports with missing content before we've had enough.
I too love my Wii U and ask the games released for it. My plan was to buy third party games for the Wii U where it made sense... As it turns out, it never did for the reasons stated in the article. Though I thoroughly enjoyed the the likes of Deus Ex, Need for speed and both Arkham games (which outside of the the canned DLC, wasn't Origins the definitive one because it had less performance problems that the other 2?)
it's too bad EA and 2K were too timid to even support the consoles worth more than one half-hearted attempt, as the Gamepad features alone makes sports games appealing on the Wii U.
But whatever, what's done is done. All you can do is enjoy what you have and what's coming and hope next time things will work out for the better!
@Kaze_Memaryu well you know, except for the fact that Nintendo is directly partnering with Facebook, which would probably give them more visibility vs. if they did it themselves, like the majority of junk ads on FB. Marketing is still marketing, and it will grab someone. No matter how over saturated it is, it's still a good move to promote on a platform that millions use.
If Nintendo is playing their cards right, I'm sure FB will be one of the many venues they'll touch in promoting the game. Gotta get those who read newspapers or those who don't DVR to skip throughout commercials.
@JaxonH stole the words right out of my mouth man. Facebook may be the bane of most existence, but it's probably hands down one of the best, most visible marketing tools one could have at their disposal.
No matter what, Nintendo always seem to be in the position of "dammed if they do, dammed if they don't" to most.
@eaglebob345 to be fair, Unseen64 are essentially reporters. They would be protected and as such shouldn't be under fire for doing their jobs as reporters. It's not as if they are agents of Nintendo. If anything, the unnamed sources would be the ones in hot water
@LiamR my apologies if it came across that way, my man. That's totally not what I was trying to imply. At all. I think given that this whole thing started with your report and the subsequent people bashing each other over the report, my mind just links back to Unseen64 as more of a blanket term, even regarding this article which is still all rumor as even other people with inside sources can be wrong. So once again, apologies. That's not fair to you guys to casually use your name like that. I was being more of the champion of indifference, honestly. That we shouldn't care who was right or wrong, as long as the game is being published. I feel like as a people, we can have intelligent conversation/debates/disagreements without bashing one another. Which leads me to my next point:
To touch on @ThomasBW84 point, no one should be called a liar, which is why I was trying to hone in the fact that I have no qualms with you because you guys have been right in the past and it's the nature of your job. That's not fair to all of the hard work you guys put in. Which is also why I admitted that "discredit" was a poor choice of word. So hopefully there's no hard feelings and we can chalk this up to a simple misunderstanding
Unseen64 report = horse's mouth. Gotcha. Though @rjejr point basically said that NoA thought the game was crap, so yea, I'm not sure why you directed that quote to me.
Listen, you don't have to defend yourself to me, like I said, I recognize you're just doing your job, I also recognize that Unseen64 has been right on occasion, so I have no qualms but if you're just going to take the parts out of my overall comment to do what you want with, there's really no more need in me continuing a dialogue with you.
I think you're missing the point of my whole comment. I know how credit/discredit works, dude. Perhaps "discredit" is the wrong term to use, I admit.
You'll continue on doing what you do whether people say you're wrong or right, sometimes you'll be right, sometimes you'll be wrong. It's just the nature of mantle you've taken up. I personally don't care either way. I just care about the game being published at all. There's just no need in one side bashing the other over opinion. And obviously there's no place in bashing a guy who was just trying to do his job.
EDIT: That said, I'm more inclined to lean towards @rjejr theory, though I'm more of a hear from the horse's mouth" type of guy
My reaction concerning who was right and who was wrong:
People have just as much right to discredit Unseen64 as people have to defend them. Ultimately the game is coming out, whether or not Nintendo published it, so thats all that should count right?
Man, I was in shock last night hearing the news thinking "this can't be real, this is some kind of hoax!" but it's finally hitting me hard this morning. Especially after seeing that fan art. So young and such a visionary. He will surely be missed.
May you rest in peace Iwata-san. May you rest in peace.
@gamermole @MightyKrypto This is what I did: I bought the Wii U first, because it was released first. I bought the PS4 because it came out second. Then I bought the XB1 because it came out third... That's just how I roll. I don't like missing things on one system that I can't get on the other, though to be fair, I'm not a normal consumer either.
And if we HAVE to mention PC, I got a powerful gaming rig as well, but I never game on it because I hate PC gaming, but I just like having in the event I want to.
@Yorumi well that's why gave the user base theory as well, as I know the server theory may not have been very sound. I'm not much of a CoDer, but doesn't Splartoon maps rotate in a similar fashion to the aforementioned? I believe Titanfall was the same way.
Another theory I have, and I think I've seen it stated before, is that they weren't done refining/tweaking the all the stages and modes but they pretty much had to rush the game out the door with what they had at launch which if is the case is pretty crappy, but I understand the logic as they would have absolutely nothing to launch in May otherwise. I'm not even going to touch the legal aspect as I don't know if someone does or doesn't have a case. In the end, and I'm probably not alone in this, but i feel like there's enough content to justify my purchase. Also, it's not like I'm being charged beyond my initial investment, so there's that. You're clearly the minority in this situation, and probably blowing this out of proportion to be harsh for harsh sake.
@Yorumi Concerning Splatoon: Not sure how it's a scam. Is the drip feed of content slightly annoying? Maybe. But having played the game, the model is fine as it is. The only thing I wish at this point is that all the maps available were eligible for rotation as opposed to every four hours. Also I'm far from an expert in this field, and it's pure speculation on my part, but I'm thinking it has more to do with preventing server stress and testing it as they add more modes/maps. That and the Wii U user base is so small (so by extension the Splatoon user base) they don't want to further thin it out between modes and maps. The scam would come in if the content was locked on disc and they charged you for content/modes... Sort of like how Capcom went under fire for locking Street Fighter IV disc content behind a paywall I think?
Splatoon amiibo, from what I've heard from others, as I've yet to use them in game, is nothing more than merely reskinned challenges/gear. So it's something a little extra for those who've invested in amiibo. Which is fine by me. It gives my $35 purchase some purpose should I delve into that. Nintendo is in a no-win situation there. They either don't utilize it right/enough to some or some feel it's locking them out if content mo matter how minor or trivial. I'm far from saying Nintendo does everything right because Nintendo, as I know for sure they have their gaffs, but I think in the case of art least Splatoon it's being criticized sort of unfairly.
@shani I never got the whole wireless lag argument. Most games are developed with wireless controllers in mind, so you gotta think Nintendo, Capcom, et al has accounted for that.
4.5 million downloaded, sure - but I've always wondered how many people have actually played vs how many people have the app on their 3ds because spotpass? I've never opened mine...
This is a good little revenue builder for Nintendo. Smart move. Even if it's not a shocker. I may actually download it so I'll have something to do when I need to kill time.
Glad to see Yoshi do so well. Batman? Yea, that's not much of a shocker. Like I said the other day, I love the latter, but boy do I miss the Gamepad map/inventory management functions of the Wii U Arkham games! Going back to the old way, makes Knight seem archaic. 😜
@rjejr true. But did we forget that they've shown XCX at E3 for the past few years now? And even dedicated a whole what? 1-2 hour Treehouse segment to it last year? I'd say the public has seen enough. All that's needed is a quick 90 second blurb and a release date. Marketing and commercials will take care of the rest. If they plan on a marketing push being it's their big holiday game, I can't see why they wouldn't.
@rjejr Concerning XCX: I'm glad it only got a brief mention. They showed way more than enough for me over the last couple years to know I want it day one. All I wanted at this point was a date and I finally got it.
@Quorthon can you not be disappointed and also apologetic at the same time? That's the boat I'm in. By and large I was disappointed with the Digital Event, but some of the games they showed I was genuinely interested in. And obviously interested in the ones they neglected to show. Of course I own a PS4, X1 and PC also, so maybe that's why my mindset is the way it is, not to mention it's painfully obvious Wii U production is winding down.
Digital Event aside, there are still some great titles on the way, I'm even interested in a few titles that they showed on Tuesday. So I'm not sweating too much, as I'm just going to enjoy the 18-24 months the Wii U has left. The Wii U has had some great games in it's short time and I don't regret my purchase one bit.
That said, part of me wonders if they left Devil's Third and Fatal Frame off because they're saving it for another, special Direct? They're mature games and didn't really fit the theme they were going for this week (whatever that was). Though I have a feeling that the absence of Devil's Third means that it's slipping to sometime in 2016 or beyond. Fatal Frame has a vague Fall date, it may suffer the same fate.
@rjejr To be fair, Reggie was probably asked about the tweet. Considering it's E3, and in America, it's technically in his jurisdiction. So it's his responsibility to spin (if that's what his comments were) He just can't not answer the question if it was indeed brought up. (sorry for the bold text Haha) That would be am admission of some kind of guilt. Really he's in a tough spot, Reggie was probably going to get ridiculed no matter what answer he gave.
@Peach64 it's what I feared when responding to @rjejr earlier. Showing stuff we've already seen. I give them an A for production but a D for the content. Pretty underwhelming overall.
@rjejr Horizon is actually the one game that made me take pause and gave me a "wow" moment. I was telling @JaxonH yesterday that it sort of reminded me of a Monster Hunter game (which could very well be far from the truth) I wanted more stuff like that.
I'll admit, CoD switching sides was surprising, but at the same time wasn't, as it was missing from the MS presentation so I figured it had to go somewhere. I mean who would leave CoD hanging. Lol
Most of the other stuff like Batman, Uncharted, Street Fighter V and what not, I already knew about and have made up my mind I was getting, so it really didn't do anything for me, which if anything is my one fear for Nintendo today - announcing a bunch of stuff they already talked about. So I suppose that was my main hangup with Sony's E3, despite it's strengths.
And I say this as a (and I'm sure you've seen me use this term before) rounded gamer, someone who owns and plays all three systems... So I'm totally not speaking from a fanboi POV. but hey, I can't be mad at you about FF7R man. Everyone had that one or two things they flip their table for. Mine is Zelda and Batman.
@rjejr "The Last Guardian. FFVII remake Shenmue 3 Game Set Match"
Maybe I'm missing something, but I just don't get it. Those games are more like a "finally!" to me than any conference winner and two of them aren't even platform exclusive. That said, Shenmue does have me excited, even if my excitement over it has waned over the years.
I tried a couple times in the first thirty minutes, then I left and walked my dogs and took care of house chores. Came back in a couple hours and things went off without a hitch. You don't pay for Nintendo's online, so I'm willing to take the trade off of the servers crashing with a popular release. It's after all not the end of the world...
@Faruko That's pretty crazy how people were thinking Splatoon was going to be like TW101 2.0. Nintendo pushed this game. Hard. No way it was going to sell as low, especially considering the install base now vs a couple years ago.
If Nintendo cared about marketing for all their other games and the Wii U in general, as much as they do for games like Splatoon, they'd probably be in a much better place.
It's a generation old. It had to be a long stretch for some to think it would get a remaster. Sunshine however is a pretty likely candidate. I could be wrong, but I anticipate an E3 reveal.
@ikki5 (comment #51) is how I feel. As a rounded gamer and a person that would have absolutely no problem buying 3rd party games on Nintendo systems and actually have - I cannot, in my right mind, purchase any games that are gimped or has content foregone in comparison to other platforms, if anything, it prevents me from buying that game at all no matter the platform in question.
Concerning Nintendo, if I don't buy that third party game, no matter how valid the reason, that effectively makes me part of the problem. It's really a catch 22. I'm not buying a gimped game that the devs/publishers are giving me for X, Y and Z reasons (depending on what company it is).
@Quorthon though the difference with Sony PS3 situation is that they never really lost 3rd parties... at least not the ones that really mattered. The worse thing that happened was MS got the lion's share of timed 3rd party exclusives, (if I'm not misremembering) and lost a few as people preferred to program on the 360 because it was easier and their online infrastructure was better. Sony's biggest problem out the gate was they almost priced themselves out of the war. PS1 and 2 were rousing successes, so I honestly think not as much confidence was as lost as folks like to make it. Really the PS4's primary success came from the PR nightmare surrounding the XB1. And great marketing. Something that if done correctly by Nintendo, they'd be sitting on little more than the what - 9.5 million units that are out in the wild?
Concerning the Wii U, I don't even know what the world they can do to build 3rd party confidence at this point. All but very few have jumped jumped ship and I'm sure they have no intention of jumping back on. Pretty hard to build confidence on a machine that no third party has an inkling of interest in for every reason under the sun. The only move I think Nintendo has at this point, and I've said this before, is listen to the third parties in what they would like to see in the NX and find that healthy comprise between Nintendo's innovation (read: different) and approach in hardware philosophy, and the power and ease of programming that 3rd parties seem to be comfortable with. For all we know that could be going on behind the scenes right now and we're not privy to it because of NDAs and aren't figureheads of any of these establishments. But my guess is every bit as valid as yours. The best thing Nintendo can do now is continue churning out whatever games/DLC they have left slated for the Wii U, move a few more units and move on.
Though my main point is we can say this and that about what's going to happen or what's not going to happen, but despite any opinions you, me or anyone else have, I still think it's fair to say it's all conjecture, as none of us have crystal balls, so all we're doing is spouting predictions.
Oh for the record, I would have been one of those Nintendo fans (and have been) that buys third party games on their platform (within reason). You can't lump us all into the same category, granted I will concede that there's probably very few of us.
@rjejr well it was also said early on that some Gamepad features were built with Zelda U in mind so, your argument has more merit. At this point, talking about what game will realise on what platform, like the what the NX us, everything we say is pure conjecture.
@Quorthon, who's to say that Nintendo doesn't already have 3rd parties lined up for NX (whatever is ends up being) or at least in the process? Perhaps is why it gives the appearance of little effort on Nintendo's part? Concerning 3rd parties, it would certainly be of little benefit for them to release any substantial titles on the Wii U, for one because of the tired argument of install base, and now you have a new platform on the horizon. But once again, conjecture.
I wasn't upset yesterday more than just disappointed because I really wanted to play. Lol
Though I wasn't freaking out last night because I came to the conclusion that everybody was trying to get on at one time because it was the only time they could play, unlike the last time where you had the somewhat convenience of picking one of three slots. Then you'd have to wager the popularity of the last sessions brought even more people to try out the game. Considering those factors, this test was probably the most important test for Nintendo as meltdown level failure with the amount of people trying to get on gives them a better measuring stick of how to tackle the servers come launch.
It would've been nice if NoA kept us updated, but my theory is, (and thus goes for NoJ as well) it was late afternoon/early evening here and past dawn Sunday in Japan so that's why they couldn't be bothered by keeping us updated, meanwhile in Europe, most places it's near the middle of the night. Still really no excuse though.
Well said, @BLP but the only criticism I have is not nearly enough words in bold type
Anyhoot given it's an E3 event, I didn't really expect them to go all out, but it makes sense to start off small and if it's a rousing success, they can go bigger in subsequent years. I have to agree with @JaxonH in that Remix 3DS was a really odd choice. If you had to do that game, at least make it the Wii U version.
If Nintendo have no time to develop a Wii U remix of current games, they could have used the SM3DW time trials or even Tropical Freeze, as the latter would have tied back to the Donkey Kong Country tourney they had at Blockbuster Video way back when.
@rjejr your comment could have been counter-talking point in and of itself, Bravo!
I have a thought about "games" possibly featured in the NWC2015, what if it isn't any one game, rather a brand new game (basically a Wii U version of World championship) that will be released on the Wii U eShop during E3 week. I'm sure there is some logic fail in my thought process.
Nintendo sure is running with the "Leave luck to Heaven" concerning amiibo. Lol I'm getting a Silver Mario, but this is like what? The fourth Mario variant? The worst part is that three of these variants are nothing more than palette swaps, as they all read as SMB Mario (at least in the case of Hyrule Warriors) time to plan out a Silver Mario could have been used for another reprint. Though I suppose that maybe some of the SMB Mario allocation was used for re-paints, being that it uses the same mold.
@rjejr I'm with you on the silver paint. I remember half joking a good while back (I think with you) that Nintendo would probably make Gold Mario unlock special gold paint in Splatoon, just to ruffle people's feathers because of the lack of Gold Marios in the wild.
@tsukipon I'm thinking it's a mixture of greed and demand, you gotta remember the US customers are importing so overseas retailers are adjusting prices to cash in on that. Some places you can't even import from, so I'm not sure why those paticular retailers are raising prices.
@rjejr I'd image they mean shelf space relative to the shelf space their contemporaries receive. It may be different out east, but here in midwest it's maybe 15-20 hooks or 2 smaller shelves underneath the amiibo demo. Of course those are filled with commons like Mario, but it all goes back @ASonic3582 explanation.
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Re: Nintendo Not Looking To Churn Out Yearly Sequels To Its Core Franchises, Feels DLC Keeps Games Feeling Fresh
@ikki5 if we're talking about core series which was the topic of conversation, and further more home iterations, and discount all the various spinoffs, remakes and re-releases that can largely be skipped, 15 Marios, 9 Zeldas and 9 DKs in 30 some-odd years isn't too bad at all. If you just break it down into 3D era, where the majority of folks consider 3D Marios/Zeldas the core experience that number goes down even more. In the case of DK, there only been one each console generation, with Mario and Zelda getting 2 games in one generation at one point (not counting the cross-gen Twilight Princess).
That said, Nintendo has way too many dormant properties that they could utilize to fill out their library outside of all the various spinoffs they utilize Mario for.
Re: Oddworld Inhabitants Is No Longer Working On Wii U Stranger's Wrath, But It's Not Canned
With all the NX news and rumors swirling, and development for the Wii U appearing to die down, I wouldn't be surprised if they just looked at everything and decided to move development to the NX. But I wish devs would stop being so ambiguous with time frames, just be honest for Pete's sake! It's not that hard.
Re: Talking Point: Wii U Gamers Have Been Treated Poorly By The Third-Party Retail Scene, But The System Still Brings Joy
@hYdeks to be fair, Nintendo didn't even support their own system with advertisements and really that's the job of the publisher, not the OEM. Nintendo's biggest fault is not communicating what the Wii U is. I brought mine over to my girlfriend's house the other day, she's not much of a gamer granted, but she thought the Wii U was just a controller attachment, so yep, that stigma is still lingering, even almost three years later.
Though I do agree with you in that the way they treated 3rd parties in the past is sort of coming back to bite them, but at the same time, third parties cannot be completely absolved from blame. Furthermore, there are a few Nintendo fans, even in this thread that has bought third party games (with the admission we may be in the minority), so way to use blanket statement blaming all Nintendo fans😊 Even then, we can only take so many gimped and late ports with missing content before we've had enough.
Re: Talking Point: Wii U Gamers Have Been Treated Poorly By The Third-Party Retail Scene, But The System Still Brings Joy
I too love my Wii U and ask the games released for it. My plan was to buy third party games for the Wii U where it made sense... As it turns out, it never did for the reasons stated in the article. Though I thoroughly enjoyed the the likes of Deus Ex, Need for speed and both Arkham games (which outside of the the canned DLC, wasn't Origins the definitive one because it had less performance problems that the other 2?)
it's too bad EA and 2K were too timid to even support the consoles worth more than one half-hearted attempt, as the Gamepad features alone makes sports games appealing on the Wii U.
But whatever, what's done is done. All you can do is enjoy what you have and what's coming and hope next time things will work out for the better!
Re: Nintendo is Partnering With Facebook for Super Mario Maker's Launch
@Kaze_Memaryu well you know, except for the fact that Nintendo is directly partnering with Facebook, which would probably give them more visibility vs. if they did it themselves, like the majority of junk ads on FB. Marketing is still marketing, and it will grab someone. No matter how over saturated it is, it's still a good move to promote on a platform that millions use.
If Nintendo is playing their cards right, I'm sure FB will be one of the many venues they'll touch in promoting the game. Gotta get those who read newspapers or those who don't DVR to skip throughout commercials.
Re: Nintendo is Partnering With Facebook for Super Mario Maker's Launch
@JaxonH stole the words right out of my mouth man. Facebook may be the bane of most existence, but it's probably hands down one of the best, most visible marketing tools one could have at their disposal.
No matter what, Nintendo always seem to be in the position of "dammed if they do, dammed if they don't" to most.
Re: Exclusive: Project CARS "Simply Too Much For Wii U", Developer Now Waiting On New Nintendo Hardware
@Quorthon
Seemed appropriate...
Re: Exclusive: Project CARS "Simply Too Much For Wii U", Developer Now Waiting On New Nintendo Hardware
Re: Multiple Sources Point to Nintendo of America U-Turn on Publishing Devil's Third
@eaglebob345 to be fair, Unseen64 are essentially reporters. They would be protected and as such shouldn't be under fire for doing their jobs as reporters. It's not as if they are agents of Nintendo. If anything, the unnamed sources would be the ones in hot water
Re: Multiple Sources Point to Nintendo of America U-Turn on Publishing Devil's Third
@LiamR my apologies if it came across that way, my man. That's totally not what I was trying to imply. At all. I think given that this whole thing started with your report and the subsequent people bashing each other over the report, my mind just links back to Unseen64 as more of a blanket term, even regarding this article which is still all rumor as even other people with inside sources can be wrong. So once again, apologies. That's not fair to you guys to casually use your name like that. I was being more of the champion of indifference, honestly. That we shouldn't care who was right or wrong, as long as the game is being published. I feel like as a people, we can have intelligent conversation/debates/disagreements without bashing one another. Which leads me to my next point:
To touch on @ThomasBW84 point, no one should be called a liar, which is why I was trying to hone in the fact that I have no qualms with you because you guys have been right in the past and it's the nature of your job. That's not fair to all of the hard work you guys put in. Which is also why I admitted that "discredit" was a poor choice of word. So hopefully there's no hard feelings and we can chalk this up to a simple misunderstanding
Re: Multiple Sources Point to Nintendo of America U-Turn on Publishing Devil's Third
@LiamR
Unseen64 report = horse's mouth. Gotcha. Though @rjejr point basically said that NoA thought the game was crap, so yea, I'm not sure why you directed that quote to me.
Listen, you don't have to defend yourself to me, like I said, I recognize you're just doing your job, I also recognize that Unseen64 has been right on occasion, so I have no qualms but if you're just going to take the parts out of my overall comment to do what you want with, there's really no more need in me continuing a dialogue with you.
Re: Multiple Sources Point to Nintendo of America U-Turn on Publishing Devil's Third
@LiamR
Meh.
I think you're missing the point of my whole comment. I know how credit/discredit works, dude. Perhaps "discredit" is the wrong term to use, I admit.
You'll continue on doing what you do whether people say you're wrong or right, sometimes you'll be right, sometimes you'll be wrong. It's just the nature of mantle you've taken up. I personally don't care either way. I just care about the game being published at all. There's just no need in one side bashing the other over opinion. And obviously there's no place in bashing a guy who was just trying to do his job.
EDIT: That said, I'm more inclined to lean towards @rjejr theory, though I'm more of a hear from the horse's mouth" type of guy
Re: The Great Ace Attorney and Yo-Kai Watch Lead The Way for 3DS in Japan
Why does it feel like there's a new Yokai Watch every other month? Lol
@MoonKnight7 it could could be worse. (looks at Xbox One's numbers) 😜
Re: Multiple Sources Point to Nintendo of America U-Turn on Publishing Devil's Third
My reaction concerning who was right and who was wrong:
People have just as much right to discredit Unseen64 as people have to defend them. Ultimately the game is coming out, whether or not Nintendo published it, so thats all that should count right?
Re: Tributes and an Outpouring of Respect Are Shared in Honour of Satoru Iwata
Man, I was in shock last night hearing the news thinking "this can't be real, this is some kind of hoax!" but it's finally hitting me hard this morning. Especially after seeing that fan art. So young and such a visionary. He will surely be missed.
May you rest in peace Iwata-san. May you rest in peace.
Re: Prototype SNES PlayStation Found In The Wild, Unicorn And Big Foot Expected Next
@gamermole @MightyKrypto This is what I did: I bought the Wii U first, because it was released first. I bought the PS4 because it came out second. Then I bought the XB1 because it came out third... That's just how I roll. I don't like missing things on one system that I can't get on the other, though to be fair, I'm not a normal consumer either.
And if we HAVE to mention PC, I got a powerful gaming rig as well, but I never game on it because I hate PC gaming, but I just like having in the event I want to.
Re: Nintendo Aims to Avoid 'Notorious' Smart Device Business Models With Its Releases
@Yorumi well that's why gave the user base theory as well, as I know the server theory may not have been very sound. I'm not much of a CoDer, but doesn't Splartoon maps rotate in a similar fashion to the aforementioned? I believe Titanfall was the same way.
Another theory I have, and I think I've seen it stated before, is that they weren't done refining/tweaking the all the stages and modes but they pretty much had to rush the game out the door with what they had at launch which if is the case is pretty crappy, but I understand the logic as they would have absolutely nothing to launch in May otherwise. I'm not even going to touch the legal aspect as I don't know if someone does or doesn't have a case. In the end, and I'm probably not alone in this, but i feel like there's enough content to justify my purchase. Also, it's not like I'm being charged beyond my initial investment, so there's that. You're clearly the minority in this situation, and probably blowing this out of proportion to be harsh for harsh sake.
Re: Nintendo Aims to Avoid 'Notorious' Smart Device Business Models With Its Releases
@Yorumi Concerning Splatoon: Not sure how it's a scam. Is the drip feed of content slightly annoying? Maybe. But having played the game, the model is fine as it is. The only thing I wish at this point is that all the maps available were eligible for rotation as opposed to every four hours. Also I'm far from an expert in this field, and it's pure speculation on my part, but I'm thinking it has more to do with preventing server stress and testing it as they add more modes/maps. That and the Wii U user base is so small (so by extension the Splatoon user base) they don't want to further thin it out between modes and maps. The scam would come in if the content was locked on disc and they charged you for content/modes... Sort of like how Capcom went under fire for locking Street Fighter IV disc content behind a paywall I think?
Splatoon amiibo, from what I've heard from others, as I've yet to use them in game, is nothing more than merely reskinned challenges/gear. So it's something a little extra for those who've invested in amiibo. Which is fine by me. It gives my $35 purchase some purpose should I delve into that. Nintendo is in a no-win situation there. They either don't utilize it right/enough to some or some feel it's locking them out if content mo matter how minor or trivial. I'm far from saying Nintendo does everything right because Nintendo, as I know for sure they have their gaffs, but I think in the case of art least Splatoon it's being criticized sort of unfairly.
Re: Hyperkin Is Working On The Ultimate Wii U Pro Controller
@shani I never got the whole wireless lag argument. Most games are developed with wireless controllers in mind, so you gotta think Nintendo, Capcom, et al has accounted for that.
Re: Pokémon Shuffle is Heading to Android and iOS, to the Surprise of No-One
4.5 million downloaded, sure - but I've always wondered how many people have actually played vs how many people have the app on their 3ds because spotpass? I've never opened mine...
This is a good little revenue builder for Nintendo. Smart move. Even if it's not a shocker. I may actually download it so I'll have something to do when I need to kill time.
Re: Yoshi's Woolly World Cuddles Up to Fourth Spot in the UK Charts
Glad to see Yoshi do so well. Batman? Yea, that's not much of a shocker. Like I said the other day, I love the latter, but boy do I miss the Gamepad map/inventory management functions of the Wii U Arkham games! Going back to the old way, makes Knight seem archaic. 😜
Re: Australian Rating Confirms That ZombiU is Shuffling Its Way to Xbox One
@Royalblues I'm still trying to figure out what happened to the other 368 XBoxes
Re: The Current State Of Virtual Reality Just Isn't Fun, Says Nintendo's Reggie Fils-Aime
Sorry I'm late, just here for the comments...
Re: Editorial: Cheer Up, There Are Some Exciting Games on the Way
@rjejr true. But did we forget that they've shown XCX at E3 for the past few years now? And even dedicated a whole what? 1-2 hour Treehouse segment to it last year? I'd say the public has seen enough. All that's needed is a quick 90 second blurb and a release date. Marketing and commercials will take care of the rest. If they plan on a marketing push being it's their big holiday game, I can't see why they wouldn't.
Re: Editorial: Cheer Up, There Are Some Exciting Games on the Way
@rjejr Concerning XCX: I'm glad it only got a brief mention. They showed way more than enough for me over the last couple years to know I want it day one. All I wanted at this point was a date and I finally got it.
@Quorthon can you not be disappointed and also apologetic at the same time? That's the boat I'm in. By and large I was disappointed with the Digital Event, but some of the games they showed I was genuinely interested in. And obviously interested in the ones they neglected to show. Of course I own a PS4, X1 and PC also, so maybe that's why my mindset is the way it is, not to mention it's painfully obvious Wii U production is winding down.
Re: Editorial: Cheer Up, There Are Some Exciting Games on the Way
Digital Event aside, there are still some great titles on the way, I'm even interested in a few titles that they showed on Tuesday. So I'm not sweating too much, as I'm just going to enjoy the 18-24 months the Wii U has left. The Wii U has had some great games in it's short time and I don't regret my purchase one bit.
That said, part of me wonders if they left Devil's Third and Fatal Frame off because they're saving it for another, special Direct? They're mature games and didn't really fit the theme they were going for this week (whatever that was). Though I have a feeling that the absence of Devil's Third means that it's slipping to sometime in 2016 or beyond. Fatal Frame has a vague Fall date, it may suffer the same fate.
Though @rjejr may be on to something.
Re: Satoru Iwata Didn't Apologise For Nintendo's E3 Digital Event, Says Reggie Fils-Aime
@rjejr To be fair, Reggie was probably asked about the tweet. Considering it's E3, and in America, it's technically in his jurisdiction. So it's his responsibility to spin (if that's what his comments were) He just can't not answer the question if it was indeed brought up. (sorry for the bold text Haha) That would be am admission of some kind of guilt. Really he's in a tough spot, Reggie was probably going to get ridiculed no matter what answer he gave.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Nintendo's E3 Digital Event?
@RandomNerds Awww I got a mention! I didn't think my comment was overly negative. I was trying to add a little levity to the comments section.
Re: Star Fox Zero Doesn't Have Online Multiplayer, Yet
Translation: We didn't have time to put in multi-player in
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Nintendo's E3 Digital Event?
@jjmesa16 let's look at the positives for a sec. At least we didn't get this level of suckatude
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Nintendo's E3 Digital Event?
@Peach64 it's what I feared when responding to @rjejr earlier. Showing stuff we've already seen. I give them an A for production but a D for the content. Pretty underwhelming overall.
Re: Feature: Nintendo Wins at Its Own Game - A Review of the Nintendo World Championships
@rjejr Horizon is actually the one game that made me take pause and gave me a "wow" moment. I was telling @JaxonH yesterday that it sort of reminded me of a Monster Hunter game (which could very well be far from the truth) I wanted more stuff like that.
I'll admit, CoD switching sides was surprising, but at the same time wasn't, as it was missing from the MS presentation so I figured it had to go somewhere. I mean who would leave CoD hanging. Lol
Most of the other stuff like Batman, Uncharted, Street Fighter V and what not, I already knew about and have made up my mind I was getting, so it really didn't do anything for me, which if anything is my one fear for Nintendo today - announcing a bunch of stuff they already talked about. So I suppose that was my main hangup with Sony's E3, despite it's strengths.
And I say this as a (and I'm sure you've seen me use this term before) rounded gamer, someone who owns and plays all three systems... So I'm totally not speaking from a fanboi POV. but hey, I can't be mad at you about FF7R man. Everyone had that one or two things they flip their table for. Mine is Zelda and Batman.
Re: Feature: Nintendo Wins at Its Own Game - A Review of the Nintendo World Championships
@rjejr "The Last Guardian.
FFVII remake
Shenmue 3
Game
Set
Match"
Maybe I'm missing something, but I just don't get it. Those games are more like a "finally!" to me than any conference winner and two of them aren't even platform exclusive. That said, Shenmue does have me excited, even if my excitement over it has waned over the years.
Re: Nintendo Apologises for eShop Issues Caused by High Super Smash Bros. Traffic, Urges Patience
I tried a couple times in the first thirty minutes, then I left and walked my dogs and took care of house chores. Came back in a couple hours and things went off without a hitch. You don't pay for Nintendo's online, so I'm willing to take the trade off of the servers crashing with a popular release. It's after all not the end of the world...
Re: Splatoon Storms to Top Spot in Japanese Charts With Six Figure Sales
@Faruko That's pretty crazy how people were thinking Splatoon was going to be like TW101 2.0. Nintendo pushed this game. Hard. No way it was going to sell as low, especially considering the install base now vs a couple years ago.
If Nintendo cared about marketing for all their other games and the Wii U in general, as much as they do for games like Splatoon, they'd probably be in a much better place.
Re: New Mega Man TV Series Blasting Its Way to Screens in... 2017
@DarthNocturnal there was so much wrong with this:
Haha. But all in all, I thoroughly enjoyed Captain N as a kid!
Re: Super Mario Galaxy Out Now on the Wii U eShop in Japan
It's a generation old. It had to be a long stretch for some to think it would get a remaster. Sunshine however is a pretty likely candidate. I could be wrong, but I anticipate an E3 reveal.
Re: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night Confirmed for Wii U
What's this garbage? Third party? Pfft. And this $28 is mighty expensive for an indie game. I'll wait until it drops in price...
Seriously. Great news. can't wait to get my hands on this!
Re: Splatoon's Ranking Battle 'Splatometer' is Supposedly Creeping Upwards to Unlock Mode
@SuperWario #6 is probably the most sound argument I've heard about the "lack of content" it actually makes a lot of sense.
Getting enough folks in the lobby quickly is surely the reason you can only play two maps at any given time.
Re: Lego Jurassic World Pre-Order Freebies Coming To PlayStation and Xbox, But Not Wii U
@sinalefa Haha pretty much this, though I did say a little something.
Re: Lego Jurassic World Pre-Order Freebies Coming To PlayStation and Xbox, But Not Wii U
@ikki5 (comment #51) is how I feel. As a rounded gamer and a person that would have absolutely no problem buying 3rd party games on Nintendo systems and actually have - I cannot, in my right mind, purchase any games that are gimped or has content foregone in comparison to other platforms, if anything, it prevents me from buying that game at all no matter the platform in question.
Concerning Nintendo, if I don't buy that third party game, no matter how valid the reason, that effectively makes me part of the problem. It's really a catch 22. I'm not buying a gimped game that the devs/publishers are giving me for X, Y and Z reasons (depending on what company it is).
Re: Exclusive: Slightly Mad Studio Head Ian Bell Sets The Record Straight On Project CARS Wii U
@Quorthon though the difference with Sony PS3 situation is that they never really lost 3rd parties... at least not the ones that really mattered. The worse thing that happened was MS got the lion's share of timed 3rd party exclusives, (if I'm not misremembering) and lost a few as people preferred to program on the 360 because it was easier and their online infrastructure was better. Sony's biggest problem out the gate was they almost priced themselves out of the war. PS1 and 2 were rousing successes, so I honestly think not as much confidence was as lost as folks like to make it. Really the PS4's primary success came from the PR nightmare surrounding the XB1. And great marketing. Something that if done correctly by Nintendo, they'd be sitting on little more than the what - 9.5 million units that are out in the wild?
Concerning the Wii U, I don't even know what the world they can do to build 3rd party confidence at this point. All but very few have jumped jumped ship and I'm sure they have no intention of jumping back on. Pretty hard to build confidence on a machine that no third party has an inkling of interest in for every reason under the sun. The only move I think Nintendo has at this point, and I've said this before, is listen to the third parties in what they would like to see in the NX and find that healthy comprise between Nintendo's innovation (read: different) and approach in hardware philosophy, and the power and ease of programming that 3rd parties seem to be comfortable with. For all we know that could be going on behind the scenes right now and we're not privy to it because of NDAs and aren't figureheads of any of these establishments. But my guess is every bit as valid as yours. The best thing Nintendo can do now is continue churning out whatever games/DLC they have left slated for the Wii U, move a few more units and move on.
Though my main point is we can say this and that about what's going to happen or what's not going to happen, but despite any opinions you, me or anyone else have, I still think it's fair to say it's all conjecture, as none of us have crystal balls, so all we're doing is spouting predictions.
Oh for the record, I would have been one of those Nintendo fans (and have been) that buys third party games on their platform (within reason). You can't lump us all into the same category, granted I will concede that there's probably very few of us.
Re: Exclusive: Slightly Mad Studio Head Ian Bell Sets The Record Straight On Project CARS Wii U
@rjejr well it was also said early on that some Gamepad features were built with Zelda U in mind so, your argument has more merit. At this point, talking about what game will realise on what platform, like the what the NX us, everything we say is pure conjecture.
@Quorthon, who's to say that Nintendo doesn't already have 3rd parties lined up for NX (whatever is ends up being) or at least in the process? Perhaps is why it gives the appearance of little effort on Nintendo's part? Concerning 3rd parties, it would certainly be of little benefit for them to release any substantial titles on the Wii U, for one because of the tired argument of install base, and now you have a new platform on the horizon. But once again, conjecture.
Re: Reaction: There is a Positive Angle to Nintendo's Splatoon Global Testfire Issues
I wasn't upset yesterday more than just disappointed because I really wanted to play. Lol
Though I wasn't freaking out last night because I came to the conclusion that everybody was trying to get on at one time because it was the only time they could play, unlike the last time where you had the somewhat convenience of picking one of three slots. Then you'd have to wager the popularity of the last sessions brought even more people to try out the game. Considering those factors, this test was probably the most important test for Nintendo as meltdown level failure with the amount of people trying to get on gives them a better measuring stick of how to tackle the servers come launch.
It would've been nice if NoA kept us updated, but my theory is, (and thus goes for NoJ as well) it was late afternoon/early evening here and past dawn Sunday in Japan so that's why they couldn't be bothered by keeping us updated, meanwhile in Europe, most places it's near the middle of the night. Still really no excuse though.
Re: Reaction: Nintendo Dropped the Ball, Not the Mic, With Its Nintendo World Championships 2015 Qualifiers
Well said, @BLP but the only criticism I have is not nearly enough words in bold type
Anyhoot given it's an E3 event, I didn't really expect them to go all out, but it makes sense to start off small and if it's a rousing success, they can go bigger in subsequent years. I have to agree with @JaxonH in that Remix 3DS was a really odd choice. If you had to do that game, at least make it the Wii U version.
If Nintendo have no time to develop a Wii U remix of current games, they could have used the SM3DW time trials or even Tropical Freeze, as the latter would have tied back to the Donkey Kong Country tourney they had at Blockbuster Video way back when.
Re: Nintendo Hoping That Splatoon Will Tempt Lapsed Fans To Splash Out On A Wii U
@rjejr to be fair, does anybody know what a Nintnedo, Ntinedo, Nintneod or Nitneod is?
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo World Championships 2015 Should Be Just the Beginning
@rjejr your comment could have been counter-talking point in and of itself, Bravo!
I have a thought about "games" possibly featured in the NWC2015, what if it isn't any one game, rather a brand new game (basically a Wii U version of World championship) that will be released on the Wii U eShop during E3 week. I'm sure there is some logic fail in my thought process.
Re: Silver Edition Mario amiibo Hits North American Stores on 29th May
Nintendo sure is running with the "Leave luck to Heaven" concerning amiibo. Lol I'm getting a Silver Mario, but this is like what? The fourth Mario variant? The worst part is that three of these variants are nothing more than palette swaps, as they all read as SMB Mario (at least in the case of Hyrule Warriors) time to plan out a Silver Mario could have been used for another reprint. Though I suppose that maybe some of the SMB Mario allocation was used for re-paints, being that it uses the same mold.
@rjejr I'm with you on the silver paint. I remember half joking a good while back (I think with you) that Nintendo would probably make Gold Mario unlock special gold paint in Splatoon, just to ruffle people's feathers because of the lack of Gold Marios in the wild.
Re: Don't Hold Your Breath On Those Marth amiibo Restocks
@tsukipon I'm thinking it's a mixture of greed and demand, you gotta remember the US customers are importing so overseas retailers are adjusting prices to cash in on that. Some places you can't even import from, so I'm not sure why those paticular retailers are raising prices.
Re: Nintendo Unable To Promise When It Can Remedy amiibo Stock Nightmare
@rjejr I'd image they mean shelf space relative to the shelf space their contemporaries receive. It may be different out east, but here in midwest it's maybe 15-20 hooks or 2 smaller shelves underneath the amiibo demo. Of course those are filled with commons like Mario, but it all goes back @ASonic3582 explanation.