OK. So Nintendo's E3 Digital Event is over, around 50 minutes of reveals, puppets and release dates. We saw plenty of Star Fox Zero, had new games in the Zelda, Metroid and Animal Crossing franchises, and a long Mario montage at the end. Intriguingly, though, the franchises weren't exactly delivered in familiar, much loved forms.
In case you're curious, below are all of the games that were shown in the broadcast; some others, not listed, have been shown elsewhere.
Wii U
- Star Fox Zero (Wii U)
- Super Mario Maker (Wii U)
- Yoshi's Woolly World (Wii U)
- Xenoblade Chronicles X (Wii U)
- Animal Crossing amiibo Festival (Wii U)
- Mario Tennis Ultra Smash (Wii U)
- Skylanders Superchargers (Wii U)
- Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem (Wii U)
3DS
- Metroid Prime: Federation Force (3DS)
- Hyrule Warriors Legends (3DS)
- Fire Emblem Fates (3DS)
- Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer (3DS)
- Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam (3DS)
- The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes (3DS)
- Yo-kai Watch (3DS)
So those were the games, what did you think? We want to know your thoughts on the presentation as a whole, and your reaction to the revealed game line-up. Hit us up in the polls and comments below.
Comments 602
Loved it BUT.. Retro??
I don't want to talk about it, ughhhh
Disappointed. I was always going to get Mario Maker and Hyrule Warriors 3ds, not fussed about anything else shown. E3 isn't over yet!
Where was retro's game?
What's with all the disappointment? People have been wanting a new Starfox game for years. But now, the second Nintendo give us one, everyone starts complaining?
I guess Game Theory was right. Gamers don't know what they want these days...
When they showed the AC amiibo being scanned I immediately jumped up... Only took a few seconds later for my excitement to go away.
Wow. That was worse than even my worst case scenario expectations. Loved the puppet presentation but the content was a huge let down. It was almost all stuff we’d seen before. Zelda and Metroid are two great, single player adventures, but they’re turning them into multiplayer focused games and putting them on the 3DS. A mash up of Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi, again on the 3DS which was my pick of the small bunch, and then a Mario Sports games. I love Mario Sports games but that’s all you have to announce for the Wii U? Don’t get me wrong, I’ll buy and play, and probably enjoy the 4 new games announced here, but… they’re just kind of underwhelming, you know? Good to fill out a schedule, but… wow.
I think they’re done with the console. Zelda WILL come out, but it’s going to a Twilight Princess situation and be an NX launch title.
Loved the opening with the puppets, just fizzled out after that. Felt like Nintendo was saying we are phasing out the Wii U.
Absolute shambles and a giant middle finger to Wii U owners. I wanted to trust Nintendo again after getting burned on the Wii but my mistake I guess. Sold the Wii after a few years for a 360 and never looked back and going to do the same now but get a PS4.
Worst ever.
Ive almost lost faith in their abilities to produce. We want a paper maruo so they mash it with the one game most of society wants to see abomished. We wamt animal crossing wii u so they give us a board game? Then metroid... unbelievable. Just go curl up and die.
The three franchises I wanted to see are now guaranteed not to please.
Show was entertaining, but I really thought something would be ready for us to play. That is the sad part.
What happened to all those so-called third party partnerships? And all those games that we didn't know we wanted?
The puppets were great, but everything else was absolutely horrendous.
It was unbelievably, indescribably bad.
Don't get me wrong: lots of games I want, but those were the ones I already knew about. There were zero new announcements that interested me, both on the 3DS or Wii U.
Seriously, Animal Crossing: Mario Party Edition and Mario Tennis as the sole Wii U announcements? Get the hell out of here.
@TheHumbleFellow Starfox and Mario and Luigi: Paper Jam were the only good games in there, that's why we are dissapointed
Disappointed. There were some mildly interesting announcements, but no megaton announcements. Zelda U being delayed really hurt this, and Retro is still MIA.
My issue is that the Wii U only had games that we already knew about, which was my concern. Star Fox wasn't a surprise for me.
I honestly think my hopes were too high. Was hoping for Mother 3, F Zero, a full Metroid, and needed a surprise. Also wanted Paper Mario for Wii U.
I'm quite baffled at how little they actually showed of substance. We already knew of most of the titles, despite the fact that knowing dates is nice. The fact that they seemed to rely on games we already knew is disheartening. One of their big announcements was an Animal Crossing Mario Party knockoff and Mario Tennis? Really?
….
Call me disappointed...
I'm genuinely let down. Why did they have a Mini Direct so recently, and announce things like Mother coming to the eShop and launching it on Sunday..... And then save NONE of that for the Digital Event? I literally can't understand. Everything they already told us made me think they were coming out guns blazing for this Digital Event considering how much they announced beforehand. And instead, almost only titles we already knew about... An awkward interaction between Reggie and someone from Activision. I don't even know. I really am extremely let down. Not a single reveal that got me remotely excited about Nintendo's future.
Disappointing overall for sure. Quite a few games shown I'm not that bothered about. On the plus side Star Fox looks awesome. The style was nuts, in a good way, but there just weren't enough interesting game announcements. Still, I'm too busy having an absolute ball with Splatoon to care too much.
Bad, Nintendo! GO TO YOUR ROOM!
This isn't just the worst E3 showing this year, this is Nintendo's worst in ages. It's extremely clear that they are going to release NX next year. The E3 showing was almost entirely games we already knew about, and of the few new games shown, not a single one was of a AAA development level. They are quite clearly following standard Nintendo procedure--once the new console is announced, they notably and drastically drop support of the current one as the build up for the new one.
Way too many games with Mario slapped on the cover. This will mark a year with three retail released Zelda games (and people have the nerve to argue with me about how Nintendo has been turning it into an annual or yearly franchise), and no mention of Fatal Frame, Devil's Third, or anything from Retro.
Those Metroid games are like a slap to the face, but they'll still probably be better than Other M.
Great for Star Fox Fans, meh for every other Fan
Is it possible we might get SOMETHING new in the following days at Treehouse? We need a Splatoon again, shake things up.
This company is being run by Muppets!
@TheHumbleFellow
I loved Starfox, but other than that there wasn't a whole lot else that I found exciting.
@TheHumbleFellow just because one out of 15 games is good shoupd be a reason to jump with joy? Im STOKED for Starfox, Im PISSED about everytbing else. ALL of it.
Bye bye Iwata!!!!
@TossedLlama I'm not even that sad about that but the potential for so much game hype.... wasted!!!
@Peach64
Couldn't have said it better myself.
I'm so disappointed right now, this was absolutely terrible. Nothing redeeming at all.
Animal Crossing Festival was soul destroying by the way. What in the world are they doing to the Animal Crossing franchise?
Disappointed. Trolls will love this topic so I'll comment and bow out. This seems like a company that is throwing in the towel on the Wii u and trying to keep it and the 3ds alive long enough for the NX. Reggie's mention of the NX was his way of saying "wait til next year" imho.
Will give Nintendo credit for sticking with near future. Too many others are going 2016+ and getting raves.
Lackluster, no exciting reveals, sickening use of IPs. Seriously?? TWO Animal Crossing spinoffs and singleplayer blastball with Metroid tacked on.
It was a joke!!!! a poorly voice dubbed borefest!
Nintendo fail!
If they didn't reveal most of this in Nintendo Directs, people would be happier. I was hoping for more exciting new stuff (Mario Tennis doesn't count) for the Wii U. We pretty much knew of all of the major stuff already. The 3DS seems a little more promising with Zelda: Three Swords Adventure and a new Paper Mario.
all this crap was already announced almost, im actually like... wow? why would you announce all this stuff before and then do not even a good rehash of it. Some was ok, but my money will stay in my pocket this year for the most part
I thoroughly enjoyed the digital event. Wasn't as amazing as last years, but had some nice reveals. I'm not sure why everyone was so overhyped though. They said specifically they would be focusing on games that were going to release between now and the first of next year. And there were plenty of surprises.
@jakysnakydx So, a new Mario Tennis and a M&L crossover with Paper MArio is not good enough for you?
Selfish...
So much disappointment. Especially after how good last year was.
@TheHumbleFellow
Gamers do know what they want but Nintendo doesn't know what gamers want on the Wii U. Instead of a cheap Animal Crossing Party Game they should have made a real AC game. Still no Metroid, still no JRPG's like on the 3DS.
Hardly any suprises at all...and I really wish that Metroid Prime would come to Wii U instead of the 3DS. The 30th Anniversary of Mario was neat to watch though.
@S-Miyahon Um, if I recall, the fans have been pestering Nintendo for Starfox for YEARS now. Now they give us it, and you're saying that they don't listen?
How selfish are you?
was meh, dissapointing, but all the games itself werent really bad
The puppet stuff was pretty funny. But everything else was garbage.
The biggest letdown for me was that Animal Crossing Wii U game ending up being a dumb Mario Party knockoff. Very furious about that. It was literally like a huge slap in the face.
Not the Animal Crossing anyone wanted.
Not the Metroid anyone wanted.
What an awful E3. One of the worst ever.
No 2016 games = terrible decision
Fans wants more then just only Star Fox.
Very poor especially after Sony yesterday. Starfox looks fun but graphically average at best oh and where has Zelda Wii U disappeared to. I would put good money on that being shifted to the NX Twilight Princess style, it's clear that Nintendo has largely given up on Wii U especially when the best it can come up with is a board game nobody wants as well as another Mario Tennis
damn there isnt a lot of good to say about what I just saw. Sure im buying star fox mario maker and xenoblade but that video was just a snoozefest.
And really nintendo you are gping to troll us with animal crossing mario party. Do you think anybody wanted that?!?
This was worse than my most negative expectations. It's almost funny that I thought it'd be a great direct. #NotFunnyAtAll
I'm very disappointed. The only games that I know I'm gonna get are Super Mario Maker, Animal Crossing Happy Home Designer, and Yoshi's Wooly World. Skylanders and Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival are tempting, but the fact that the Skylanders games are crazy expensice and Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival requires an Amiibo for each player makes me unsure if I wanna get them.
If i tell you guys how i feel about it at the moment, ill get banned for using inappropriate language.
I just hopr that it was all a joke and they announce a new, hour long direct for the week to blow us all aways...thats basically what keeps me sane at the moment.
Are there going to be any more reveals? What of Dragon Quest? Or indies like Terraria? No VC either. Quite disappointed tbh.
Nobody's really going to have an opinion of games from e3 reveals. Xenoblade ended up as my favorite game on the poll simply because they revealed it early and I know pretty much everything about it already from trailers, PLUS there's a valid release window. But ironically, the same kinds of people who got Xeno X first when they wanted Zelda Wii U... they got Skyward Sword first back in 2011 when they demanded the first Xeno game, so the tables have kind of turned. As I keep saying, you guys asked for it.
For the next year or so I'm getting Zelda U... and that's it I'm afraid... and I only own a Wii U!!
Still better than Ubisoft. This Event felt like a year's worth of Directs in 60 mins, it's so weird Nintendo would do this
I got Star Fox, so I'm rating the show good, but not great.
That being said, I hate 3-5 year dev cycles with this generation. Like I want Xenoblade, but I've been hearing about it for years now. We heard about Mario Maker last year. We already knew about most of which was shown.
As for new stuff:
Zelda: Triforce - hooray it has online, so it on my watch!
Mario vs Luigi RPG - Hey an RPG, so that's good
Tennis WiiU - REALLY? NEEDED A NEW SPORT FOR THIS GEN!
Animcal crossing thing - It's a thing, no thanks.
Amiibo... just stop
Metroid 3DS game - Intrigued
3DS lineup looking good. ALrady new about FE, but want that. Hyrule Warriors was leaked, but I'll pick up that version since it has all DLC from WiiU. B/c that's what DLC is folks, it's stuff that should have been in the game from the start.
So B-, but that grade is heavily helped by Star Fox.
E3 sale going on now. For 3DS, at least, the following:
Animal Crossing - 20.99 (from 29.99)
Fantasy Life - 27.99 (from 39.99)
Fire Emblem Awakening - 27.99 (from 39.99)
Kid Icarus: Uprising - 24.49 (from 34.99)
Lego Batman 3: Beyond Gotham - 13.99 (from 19.99)
Lego Ninjago: Nindroids - 13.99 (from 19.99)
Lego Ninjago: Shadow of Ronin - 13.99 (from 19.99)
Lego The Hobbit - 13.99 (from 19.99)
Lego The Lord of the Rings - 13.99 (from 19.99)
Mario and Luigi: Dream Team - 27.99 (from 39.99)
Mario Golf: World Tour - 20.99 (from 29.99)
Mario Tennis Open - 27.99 (from 39.99)
Star Fox 64 3D - 27.99 (from 39.99)
Super Mario 3D Land - 20.99 (from 29.99)
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds - 27.99 (from 39.99)
The Lego Movie Videogame - 13.99 (from 19.99)
Yoshi's New Island - 27.99 (from 39.99)
Mario Tennis - 4.19 (from 5.99)
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons - 4.19 (from 5.99)
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages - 4.19 (from 5.99)
Yoshi - 3.49 (from 4.99)
Not up for going to check my U.
Very disappointed.
No "New" games
Awful presentation in every way.
@TheAceofMystery At this rate, it's probably an NX Launch game. Something like Metroid Prime 4 to launch the system would tempt many folks to buy one.
Looks like the Wii U is soon on the "Survive till the next system arrives" phase, so its probably going to be games like this, DLC, and Zelda Wii U as a swansong to fill the time between now and NX....
Okay...how do you go from having one of your best E3 presentations, straight to one or you absolute worst? HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN!? And @TheHumbleFellow we aren't selfish. This was just dissapointing. Most of the stuff shown was stuff we already knew about, and aside from Mario & Luigi Paper Jam, the new titles they showed were just...not very appealing. At least we got Star-fox, though...maybe they should've saved Earthbound Beginnings and the Smash Bros. dlc for the digital event...
I Think I'm still digesting. Honestly as far as purchases go this was a good e3 for me. I know I'm getting paper jam, XCX, FEF, SMTxFE, Yoshi, SMM, star fox, and im considering zelda and the metroid game. From that perspective Nintendo did exactly what they set out to do...sold me some games. I expect any new announcements will happen via directs later. So I'm just going to be content with that. MS and Sony still haven't convinced me to buy their system so I don't think they "won" either. I wish there were earlier release dates but that is about it.
@ericwithcheese2 I SERIOUSLY hope those fall FLAT in their face. Just pure garbage.
of the new material (i.e. notbstarfox or yoshi because thosenwere old news) the absolute only one i will buy is zelda triforce whatever.
@TheHumbleFellow That's a ridiculous sentiment. Just because you like other games in the franchise doesnt mean you have to buy everything in it. People have been clamoring for a new Metroid too, but does that mean everyone should scoop up those horrendous spinoff shooters they showed? No. If the game looks bad, no one has to buy it.
A few new games but overall great games and we got dates for Yoshi and X. Starfox exceeded my expectations and Mario Maker looks big. Plus AC amiibo. Online Zelda.
Wanted more new things but I know Nintendo announces them out of E3.
I'm happy the poll feels the same as i do right now. Cause i feel gutted
In case you didn't realize, the puppet show was to distract you from how little substance there was.
Judging by the amount of people saying they liked the puppets, I'd say it worked.
@VoodooTrumpet I think I'm going to join you bro. The only thing good I can say about my Wii U is Smash Bros. Anything else isn't even worth talking about. I feel like an idiot for choosing the Wii U over the PS4 tbh.
@Kohaku But we don't NEED AC on Wii U. It works better on a portable. New Leaf makes the whole concept of a Wii U game pointless.
Also, did you not see the trailer for Federation Force?
Let's say I don't like to end E3 conferences wanting to play more of a console I don't own than the ones I currently own.
Pretty much all they showed was already announced in one way or another, and the new stuff they showed was definitely not impressive enough. I won't go as far as to say I'm selling my Wii U for a PS4 because there's a lot of stuff I do play like Splatoon, Smash and Bayonetta (it doesn't help either that most of my games are digital), but if I had to make a decision now between one of those two, I'd go for a PS4.
No doubt in my mind they are pushing most of their resources to NX now. We knew about most of those games already and those we didnt arent exactly system sellers.
There seems to be a pattern to nintys e3 showings now, a good year is followed by a rubbish year and so on. I expect next year to be top level
The Direct was a big disappointment. Almost everything was previously announced, and the new announcements were the opposite of what people wanted. People wanted a Wii U Paper Mario, Animal Crossing, and Metroid Prime. Nintendo gave us a 3DS Paper Mario crossover, Animal Crossing Party, and Metroid Prime for the 3DS. They gave us the franchises we wanted, but not in the ways we wanted them, which might actually be worse than if they hadn't given them at all. To be clear, though, I do want Paper Jam, it just isn't what I wanted them to announce.
All that said, I still expect to see more announcements this week. Unlike its competitors, Nintendo's E3 goes for 3 days. There were key components missing from the Direct that have always been present (indies, VC, and the eshop in general). I'd be very surprised if they left things as they are. Within minutes of the Direct ending, they already announced that Platinum is working on Star Fox, and I expect more to come.
They spent way too much with Mario Maker. No true Animal crossing which looked like you need the amiibo to play, no true paper Mario title. Metroid "Prime"... urk...
@FlaygletheBagel Except that this Starfox looks GOOD!
Seriously, what the hell is wrong with all of you?!
@TheHumbleFellow No one is even talking about Star Fox. Were talking about the whole thing! It was awful deal with it.
So it's safe to assume they're saving the main story titles for NX? All the games aside from Star Fox looked like spin offs. While I am intrigued by some of these newly announced games, I'm definitely not jumping for joy. I've got quite a backlog of WiiU & 3ds games so I think I'll survive lol.
Have developer stories or trailers, not both. Ate up time that could have been used for hell, just a release date teaser for Fatal Frame? Devil's Third?
Animal Crossing Party? Why?! And why show Metroid Prime Federation Force without Metroid on Wii U, you know that's going to cause backlash.
The ending was atrocious. No 'one more thing', not even Nintendoland Fireworks bad.
They're going to have to claw back from this one on the next Direct. Not impressed at all.
@TheHumbleFellow
It's not that we're not excited for a new starfox game it's just that the game was confirmed last E3 an update about the game is good but this E3 didn't really have any big new games that made me sit up and get excited.
After Microsoft and Sony bought their A Game I hoped Nintendo had something up there sleeve but after last year it's clear to me that they have give up on Wii U and are now resting all their hopes on the NX to replace both Wii U and 3DS
It transformed into garbage
The Animal Crossing and Metroid reveals were spirit breakers. So few heavy hitters and most of which aren't out until 2016.
So I'm guessing that "NX" will be announced by E3 next year and launch later in the year.
A 4-year lifespan. That's got to be the shortest lifespan of a home console since the pre-NES days... =/
@SavoirFaire @Quorthon @Peach64 @ricklongo
Add up your 4 comments and that's what I have. But wait, there's more:
Why start w/ that NX comment, but not show Zelda U? There is nothing to sell Wii U this holiday, or nexty ear, you need to show Zelda U, even a 3 minute non-gameplay trailer to keep people at least interested. I'v ebeen defendin gZelda U as Gamepad specifi and not an NX game, but now I'm not so sure.
Did Starfox and it's N64 graphics ever get a date?
Reggie - don't say "why wait, you can play it right now" only to say the dmeo is only aviable at Best Buy. that was just an asinine comment if ever I heard one.
Too much 3DS emphasis. Was any one listed as "New" 3DS only to get peopel to buy a new 3DS? At least promote something. FE:Fates looked awesome.
I have no idea what was going on in that Animal Crossing vid. Board game? Daily diary? What? I've been waiting for an amiibo centric game forever, bu tAC amiibo Festival was just a big huh?
I got my 3 dates, XCX, SMM and Yoshi. And amiibo seem to be getting some interesting integration. An dItol dmyself all they had to do was not mess it up, but they did. NX mention, no Zelda U (which we knew, but now I'm worried), Metroid on 3DS.
And the cherry on the evil pie - DK and Bowser as Skylanders. Why make your own amiibo, why not just let Activision put hem in their own toys? At least we might get som estock that way. What the frak are you thinking? Both amiibo adn Skylanders w/ a switch is nice, but why? Why why why?
I expect a big news direct near december time for 2016. I'm preying some more stuff appears in the tree house.
but yeah considering how much stuff they announced over the last few weeks this was weak. Surely they should have kept that Direct micro back
This E3 was very disappointing for me, but you can't have phenomenal E3s like last year without having some low points. I'm sure that with the work they're putting into the NX to supply it with new games, we'll get a good start to the next gen at least. But I agree, there were a lot of heartbreaking moments this time around.
@MikeW
Nintendo IS a toy company.
http://kotaku.com/the-amiibo-problem-1702811182
Dissapointing. Paper Jam and StarFox Zero were the only things that made me smile. Nintendo, you seriously need to step your game up.
What i thought about Nintendo's E3? Hold on, let me take my PTSD meds first...
I'm beyond excited for Star Fox — seriously excited — but the lack of a real metroid is... Well... Less-than-desireable/tolerable.
Im also excited about Fire Emblem (both systems) and the Paper Mario game but man... There could have been so much more!
So I sold my Wii U a year ago because I wasn't happy with the game library but looks like I'll be getting another for star fox and some of the other games that came out since I abandoned it. I'm sold, Nintendo... I don't know how, but I am.
Wii U is dead after 2015
Of course it was too much to hope for a new Kid Icarus.
At the end of it all, I now have a release date for Xenoblade Chronicles X and I am really looking forward to it. I'm happy for that, and the lack of new interesting games did not lessen my Xeno-hype. Bring on December! Heck yeah, Xenoblade!
Star Fox is great too, but Xenoblade!
Just feel like Nintendo is not even trying, I even think Super Mario Maker is a bad anniversary title and having to wait till December for Xenoblade is not even cool I don't think I even want it having to wait that long . UGLY JUST UGLINESS ..
The Wii U is dead.
@jakysnakydx "I SERIOUSLY hope those fall FLAT in their face. Just pure garbage."
Cute.
Well I'm excited about Star Fox, Fire Emblem: Fates, and Xenoblade Chronicles X. I want to be excited about Mario and Luigi: Paper Jam, but after playing the slightly disappointing Dream Team and the abysmal Sticker Star, I just don't have any faith that this entry will be good.
@MikeW How so? Zelda is coming after 2015 and Xenoblade and Star Fox are right at the end of the year, you fool! 2015 is where it gets real!
Nintendo took 3 classic IPs; Zelda, Metroid, and Animal Crossing and created some gimmicky half baked games out of them. Throw in some JRPG teen drama games and a few Mario games no one was looking for and you have Nintendo @ E3 2015. I'm excited about the games we already knew were coming out and StarFox. But everything else? bleh
Although I was immensely disappointed by the presentation, I do still love Nintendo.
@DroothR
Not true, good sir. Both the original Xbox and GBA were replaced at the 4-year mark. Thankfully, their replacements both had serious longevity. So there's an upside, huh? The last two consoles to be replaced as quickly as Wii U, were replaced by industry juggernauts.
@TheHumbleFellow That's a matter of opinion. Personally, I thought it looked incredibly bland. The ships look like plastic toys, the world looks uninspired, and the gameplay is pretty much exactly the same, minus a few strange additions (like walking around on two feet). One of the few Nintendo games I was ever bored from just looking at it.
The METROID game no one wanted
The ZELDA game no one asked for.
Animal Crossing in name only.
Nintendo are only half listening. They understand people are clamouring after franchises but they're purely slapping a name onto bad looking games. They are determined to re-use assets to cut costs and save money. They have little faith that games will sell which is why they are cutting corners.
The transformation that was spoken of was an illusion. Yuck
animal crossing as boardgame... no good at all.
Metroid as a multiplayer game.... what the hell.
Xenoblade.... old news, will proberly be my 2nd last game for me. Zelda last.
Party game zelda for 3ds... no sell for me.
Skylanders amiibos... who cares.
No retro announcement... maybe i'am wrong, but did they not promised that?
Their best games this gen have been released on their little moneymachine 3DS, when the should have been on their home console. I could mention atleast twenty 3ds games I would rather play on the big screen instead of the small low-res screen.
Nintendo have given up on their home console for good, this was the final nail in the coffin for a longtime fan like me. Too bad. RIP.
I love Nintendo and after Sunday thought they were going to top the awesome things they did last year. They didn't. The surprises did not work for me and a metroid game with no samus is something that just hurts the heart. I also do not like the wait on xenoblade.
Star fox excites me but that more was from the treehouse event and after platinum is the one making it was announced.
Even if I did not see and kind of attend the playstation event I would still be disappointed. maybe the treehouse can be the saving grace for them this e3.
Only thing missing was some Virtual Boy VC titles for 3DS
No excuse that was just absolute crap. Trust me, i'll be glad if I don't see Mario for a couple of years now...
Who asked for animal crossing board game?
Who ever it was I wanna hurt you! Lol
Worst digital event ever!
@Crimzonlogic That is what people said about 2014 at the 2013 E3 direct and then at the 2014 E3 direct, they said it is 2015 and now we are saying at the end of 2015 it is where it gets real....
It is now clear Nintendo have given up on the Wii U and most real Nintendo games will be released on the NX. So glad I sold my wii u before it becomes worthless.
They will announce other titles during regular nintendo directs. They have been trying for years with the directs to make the big reveals during directs instead of E3. Anyone remember a few years ago when the direct 2 weeks after the E3 was 10x better???
I'm just going to take a bit of a break from Nintendo overall after this. This was extremely depressing. The only thing that is keeping me from quitting altogether, is the fact that they said that this E3 will only be focused on 2015-Early 2016 release titles. Which gives me some hope for next year, but until then, the only game I will pick up, will be Super Mario Maker and Starfox. That's it.
Please Nintendo, I love you and wish you only the best, but please, don't disappoint next year, like you did this year...
I think the worst part is that Nintendo's E3 week basically started with freaking Shigesato Itoi. I though that was forecasting an amazing showing, and then they do this.
I still cannot believe it.
This digital event is blatantly starting what wiinu gamers can expect between now and June next year. Any MAJOR franchise in development is being developed for NX now and will be showcased at E3 2016 for a 2016 holiday release. I'm indirectly pleased with this E3 just for this pure fact
Star Fox and Paper Mario looked good. Just about everything else though, either I'm not in the target audience (Animal Crossing etc) or it was just downright disappointing (Metroid).
Stuff, Nintendo. Come on. You were up against FFVII of all things.
@OneBagTravel
You are dead on with this comment
Looks like it's all about NX for Nintendo's future. Awful presentation.
I would have hoped they would put more time in full versions of AC, Zelda, and Metroid instead of these half-***ed ones. So now we have to wait another 2-3 years on a real Metroid, AC, or Zelda game? What a waste!
@ikki5 @S-Miyahon Did you not see the games I mentioned? THOSE are why it gets real! Those are going to be gems! You guys seriously aren't exited for those? For shame! I guess I'll be having a blast playing those while you guys are moping around wondering why you don't have any games to play because you don't like them...
@TheHumbleFellow It's pretty much everything else BUT Starfox that disappointed everybody...
I think the worst part is that Nintendo's E3 week basically started with freaking Shigesato Itoi. I though that was forecasting an amazing showing, and then they do this.
I still cannot believe it.
@PrincePeach92 i already did twice
The only thing Nintendo 'transformed' at E3 was my excitement into disappointment.
@TheHumbleFellow But we knew about star fox and have seen a million mario maker trailers now. E3 is about dropping bombshells on the audience. Xbox did. Playstation did. Nintendo tries to make us want an Animal Crossing Amiibo board game. The metroid game looks terrible and nothing like a true metroid game. The whole digital event was a combination of "yes ive seen this show us something new" and "what the heck is this?!". Star fox and Mariomaker will be awesome and im looking forward to playing them. But can you not see how disasterous this was. There was nothing else major announced.
It was pretty much a waste after the Star Fox reveal.
So disappointed. Didn't get to watch it live, skipped most of it watching later. Just huge letdown, even worse letdown than expected.
My take from this is that Nintendo's throwing in the towel on the Wii U. Honestly, there were two new games announced for it, both of which are "meh". Right now, they're rallying all their efforts on NX projects which we'll see more of next year.
For me it was the worst E3 by Nintendo that I can remember. Probably even worse than the Wii Music one...
The muppets were great though and the highlight of the whole event...
Dont know what to say.....I got no reason to buy a New 3ds now when 1 exclusive title on it....No must buy 3ds games or wiiu games this year except for starfox and the new zelda game maybe. I guess i buy a 2ds and play the games that is still good on it.
@OneBagTravel couldnt have said it better myself.
Not really disappointment since I didn't expect much this year...but boy the Wii U is dead. Didn't expect that.
I'm sure Star Fox will be great but they are really not trying to sell anymore consoles. Basically just giving owners one more game every 3 months and that's it...
Overall, the presentation itself was...underwhelming. Nintendo made fans expect a lot of great surprises for the Wii U's library, but instead we got a ton of unoriginal 3DS games. Nintendo, I thought you promised wii U owners would be satisfied with their systems! You're beginning to lose my faith. Where was QOL, NN3DS exclusives, and Zelda Wii U?! Star Fox looks great, though. Thank you for that. But everything else? Underwhelming, that's for sure. VERY underwhelming.
It was refreshing to see a lot of the 3ds titles having online multiplayer. They started off saying how they were focusing on titles you can play in the upcoming months, yet nearly every new title shown off is a 2016 release. Yet none of the titles were really even all that good looking.
Maybe some more reveals will come in the next few days but the year is looking subpar.
Super Mario Maker looks so awesome I can forgive Nintendo for their e3, but I'm very disappointed.
I was hoping for Mario Maker on the 3ds and was a bit disappointed to see the next Paper Mario game as a Mario & Luigi title. But I'm really looking forward to the the new Zelda and Fire Emblem games. I'll probably also pick up Metroid if it offers a good single player mode.
It was so disappointing I wound up playing Pokemon Shuffle for most of it, waiting for the interesting games to get announced, which never happened. The only good games presented were ones we already knew about last year. Was really hoping this might be the year for a new Punch-Out!! too, sigh.
@TheHumbleFellow It's not about Starfox, do you think that's all anybody wanted? It has nothing to do with "not knowing what they want" everybody was expecting more. Game Theory doesn't know anything, he overthinks video games for views
Yeah this wasn't a great E3. They focus too much time on amiibo's and Mario Maker. Where was footage of Fatal Frame V? Just sucks we didn't get the Metroid "Prime" we wanted,or F-Zero. So I guess we won't get those maybe until the "NX"? I guess next year will be better with the NX and some games from that. Oh well...
@Quorthon Almost right. Mark my words, NX will release in 2017 so that the new games for it are more fleshed out and not rushed - the big thing that hurt both the 3DS and Wii U at launch.
In the mean time, 3DS will be carried by 3rd parties and the occasional port from Nintendo, as well as one last main series Pokemon. The Wii U will just get whatever games they have left in development (Pokken Tournament?), and then Smash DLC. Lots and lots of Smash DLC - probably $120+ worth.
This is all a horrible dream and when I wake up I will be greeted by the real conference. Please let this be the case.
@Crimzonlogic Great! Two or three games in the next six or more months that will maybe be good, and then one more great one before the console is dead in the water. In what world is the Wii U's lineup just now "getting real?"
Meanwhile there are literally hundreds of great games coming to other platforms. Nintendo's is dead in the water at this point, but I guess that's not really a surprise.
@TheHumbleFellow It's not about Starfox, do you think that's all anybody wanted? It has nothing to do with "not knowing what they want" everybody was expecting more. Game Theory doesn't know anything, he overthinks video games for views
@S-Miyahon Sorry, it came across that way.
This must be the second or third worst Nintendo E3 conference ever.
this was there worst e3.and i'm a huge nintendo fan.
Disappointed overall. Too much amiibo that we wont be able to find, Animal Crossing Wii U is a Party Game, Metroid 3DS shovelware, no Fatal Frame or virtual console announcements, VERY little focus on SMTxFE and Xenoblade, way too much focus on Mario.
The muppets were fun.
I'd give it a C, where Sony was an A- (EA was a D, MS a B)
Am i supposed to be happy? Cos' guess what, i'm not happy with a home console with one or two great games each year, and nearly dead not even three years after its release...
For three years, i was expecting a Fire Emblem makin' the best use of the gamepad for all my best strategy moves... for three years i was expecting scanning in Metroid thanks to the gamepad gyros... two very simple GAMEPLAY ideas to give the Wii U some good reasons to even exist...
If after this mess, Nintendo thinks i'm gonna buy their "NX" !!! Well, sorry, but they just got one long-long-time fan out of the game...
Star Fox, Yoshi, Mario Maker. That's it for me. I'll buy Metroid fed, but only to support the franchise I love, so that one day we may see Samus return again. Also, where the heck was devil's third? What a crappy e3.
Not much in the way of surprises. It was a pretty tragic presentation.
Just looking at the games:
Wii U
Star Fox Zero (Wii U) (we knew already)
Super Mario Maker (Wii U) (we knew already)
Yoshi's Woolly World (Wii U) (we knew already)
Xenoblade Chronicles X (Wii U) (we knew already)
Animal Crossing amiibo Festival (Wii U)
Mario Tennis Ultra Smash (Wii U)
Skylanders Superchargers (Wii U)
Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem (Wii U) (we knew already)
3DS
Metroid Prime: Federation Force (3DS)
Hyrule Warriors Legends (3DS) (we knew already)
Fire Emblem Fates (3DS) (we knew already)
Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer (3DS) (we knew already)
Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam (3DS)
The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes (3DS)
Yo-kai Watch (3DS)
They gave us 6 new games... 6!!! Really Nintendo?? Why on God's green Earth did you shove Mother 1 under the carpet like that before the Championships?? That was more hype than anything in the Digital screw-up...
Just looking at the games:
Wii U
Star Fox Zero (Wii U) (we knew already)
Super Mario Maker (Wii U) (we knew already)
Yoshi's Woolly World (Wii U) (we knew already)
Xenoblade Chronicles X (Wii U) (we knew already)
Animal Crossing amiibo Festival (Wii U)
Mario Tennis Ultra Smash (Wii U)
Skylanders Superchargers (Wii U)
Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem (Wii U) (we knew already)
3DS
Metroid Prime: Federation Force (3DS)
Hyrule Warriors Legends (3DS) (we knew already)
Fire Emblem Fates (3DS) (we knew already)
Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer (3DS) (we knew already)
Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam (3DS)
The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes (3DS)
Yo-kai Watch (3DS)
They gave us 6 new games... 6!!! Really Nintendo?? Why on God's green Earth did you shove Mother 1 under the carpet like that before the Championships?? That was more hype than anything in the Digital screw-up...
Retro Studios new game could have saved the entire Direct. It is very sad to say it but it has been staring, (at least me) in the face for a while now.... 3rd party support for Nintendo systems is all but extinct. I see Nintendo ending up like Sega within the next 6-10 years. By that I mean that they will become a software developer only. It really pains me to say that but look around everyone it is true!
I think the event could have been better with they'd saved the Earthbound, Blastball and Smash Bros stuff for the Digital Event, as opposed to the Nintendo World Championships and the Smash Direct. It was underwhelming, but nowhere near Wii Music levels of bad. Also, I think you all had your expectations set way too high. You all wanted Mother 3, F-Zero, Star Fox, Metroid, NX, Zelda, Bayonetta and everything else under the sun at the very least, which was ultimately your downfall. I came into it without expecting anything over the top, which made the Event better for me, as stuff like Star Fox and Paper Jam were more pleasant, surprising reveals. So, in short: Underwhelming, but nowhere near as bad as you yahoos are making it out to be.
Is it a rule now at Nintendo HQ that all games have amiibo integration? WTH???
@Peach64 it's what I feared when responding to @rjejr earlier. Showing stuff we've already seen. I give them an A for production but a D for the content. Pretty underwhelming overall.
Who voted "I loved it, awesome". I think you're lying to yourself. Just kidding. Overall it was pretty disappointing. It's probably the worst E3 Direct/Press Conference since 2013 and I think it was more disappointing than that.
The best NEW game is probably Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam.
PS: The puppets/muppets theme was good at the beginning but after that it was useless I don't think it helped with the flow of the presentation. I enjoyed the Robot Chicken version more.
@FlaygletheBagel @FlaygletheBagel There are way more games besides those, too. Those are just the really big ones that I am SUPER FREAKIN' hyped for. I'll personally be satiated for a long time with just Xenoblade, honestly. Can't. Freaking. Wait. Bring on December.
I wouldn't say there are hundreds of "great" games. Hundreds, sure. But great? nah.
In all I think the event was a little bit of a letdown from last year. Just my opinion below, but here it is anyway.
PROS:
-Muppet characters and Star Fox references were great, amazing!
-Footage of Star Fox Zero was also great and hype enducing.
-Developer interview with Shigeru Miyamoto and his inspirations for Star Fox.
-Skylanders figures for DK and Bowser that dual function as amiibo
(Hopefully Activision produces them so stock is more available).
-Love for the 3DS with some nice upcoming titles.
-Dates given for several upcoming games.
-More upcoming amiibo like pixel Mario.
CONS:
-No big announcements of new IP for Wii U. Really not much we weren't expecting.
-No word from Retro Studios or others on anything they are doing, aside from those we are already aware of (Good-Feel, Koei Tecmo/Team Ninja, etc). Sure Hyrule Warriors was leaked and that wasn't really Nintendo's fault.
-Trailers for Fire Emblem with not much that hadn't been shown already.
-Metroid Prime game shown in beta was lackluster and unfinished, very different from canon games. Little explanation in this case was a bad thing.
-More upcoming amiibo like Pixel Mario. While some may not want them, many do but it's difficult to believe stock will be more readily available on these.
very mediocre
You know, Microsoft's conference deserves more credit than it gets - their content is coming this year and early next year. Sony may win due to The Last Guardian, Shenmue 3, and FF7 remake, but none of those are coming anytime soon. They're late 2016-2018 games. Horizon Zero Dawn looks great. Hopefully it comes in 2016.
Basically, Sony's conference may have been hype, but the disappointment will set in for people when they realize how far away it all is. 3rd party games that are on the XB1 mean nothing.
Lol. I'm fine with what was shown. Star Fox, Yoshi, Mario Maker, Splatoon, it's a good year as far as I'm concerned. But I have very few gaming needs as I play a lot of retro games in a year, so I guess I'm not the average fan.
@Quorthon three retail Zelda games this year? You do realize the Wii U one was delayed to next year, correct? Unless I'm missing something, we're getting two, not three (and one of those two is a crossover).
Anyways, yeah, I was pretty disappointed, it was mostly games we already know about, and the announced games didn't deliver what I wanted from those franchises... And god, more Amiibo support for Amiibos I can't get. I'm getting honestly irritated with Nintendo lately...
Not as good as the last two E3 events for sure. It's not that Nintendo doesn't have great games scheduled to come out, it's disappointing because we all knew about most of those games and we wanted something new that would blow us away. I'm actually just as pumped for Super Mario Maker as I was for Mario Kart 8, DKC:TF, Smash, and Splatoon. I will buy that game on day one! I also thought Star Fox looked kind of bad in the actual E3 presentation, but I stuck around to watch the Tree House people play it and it looked a lot better. I'm actually thinking that I'm happy to be able to buy those two games for my Wii U by the end of the year. Combine that with Xenoblade!
I was disappointed for the tennis game and animal crossing game though. I've had enough of party games and watered down sports titles.
The 3DS has Fire Emblem!!!!! It was previously announced but it's still coming out.
They made it clear that this was about 2015 and not about 2016...so maybe we'll be blown away by the first Nintendo Direct of 2016?
@Atlantidas The worst part is that many of the games they did talk about might as well be iOS games! That Happy Home Designer nonsense, Amiibo Festival (literally the last thing anyone wants to have a festival about is amiibo), and even that nonsense Metroid Prime game might as well be bite-size mobile games.
I probably jinxed it. I never watch these things but the one that I actually carve time out to watch is a dud. Sorry folks!
I'm excited for Star Fox, SMTxFE, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Yoshi's Woolly World and Mario Tennis. So that's not too bad for games to be excited about, but disappointing in terms of looking forward to actual surprising reveals. And my wife is really bummed about no Animal Crossing U.
I'm going to soon this positively and say that I'm happy I don't have a bunch of games to buy this year. Seruisly, though, this borders on E3 2008-level bad.
I was expecting much more interesting games to 3ds but even that failed
@ShadJV The 3rd Zelda game is already out - Majora's Mask 3D.
@jjmesa16 let's look at the positives for a sec. At least we didn't get this level of suckatude
Haha, gamers just get more & more spoiled and entitled. It may not have been the best E3 we've ever seen, but maybe just think about what you DO have as opposed to what you don't have. If developers just did what everyone said and were basically our puppets then there would be no room for surprise and mystery. Plus let's not forget that E3 is not over yet.
@FlaygletheBagel I agree about all those games. I'm not excited about any of those.
I really thought the wii u had a lot of life and fan service left in it but I was dead wrong. I think we are only going to see what we already know for the system until the NX. I lost a lot of faith in Nintendo just now even star fox I can't believe they are just remaking the 1st one with a few added effects.
Goodbye Nintendo.
Shocked at how little new stuff was shown , although I appreciate they stated it was for upcoming games only. Starfox still looks a bit rough. Xenoblade still looks great. What have Retro been working on or have Nintendo just been holding them hostage ? Should have cut the developer chat and shown trailers for Devil's Third and Fatal Frame. Mario Tennis was a surprise , but why bother ? Mario Strikers would have been a better idea in my opinion. Still hoping more announcements will be made during the next few days , but so far so meh.
Kinda lame this year, oh well. The good news is Star Fox, Metroid and Zelda (just because it's not what ppl had in mind doesn't mean they won't be great games), and all the other games we already knew we're coming.
Still much to look forward to. But ya, not NEARLY as good as last year...
I can't get onto the main page; too many people here to vent their rage and disappointment, by all accounts.
Kinda lame this year, oh well. The good news is Star Fox, Metroid and Zelda (just because it's not what ppl had in mind doesn't mean they won't be great games), and all the other games we already knew we're coming.
Still much to look forward to. But ya, not NEARLY as good as last year...
Kinda lame this year, oh well. The good news is Star Fox, Metroid and Zelda (just because it's not what ppl had in mind doesn't mean they won't be great games), and all the other games we already knew we're coming.
Still much to look forward to. But ya, not NEARLY as good as last year...
The good:
The Meh (cause we've known about them already):
The Meh (stuff we didn't know):
The Weird:
The slaps in the face:
Kinda lame this year, oh well. The good news is Star Fox, Metroid and Zelda (just because it's not what ppl had in mind doesn't mean they won't be great games), and all the other games we already knew we're coming.
Still much to look forward to. But ya, not NEARLY as good as last year...
There are great Wii U titles coming out. Super Mario Maker, Star Fox 0, Xenoblade. All three are coming out by the end of the year! Am I missing something?
I'll agree with everyone's disappointment because there was a lack of new announcements that blew us away but it's not that we're getting nothing.
@TheHumbleFellow Star Fox is a great looking game with lots of potential, but other than that, they were SO far off from delivering what they promised beforehand: Reggie said they would be showing MANY games and Miyamoto-san said they would be showing multiple new games that make better use of the GamePad.
As for your comment to @Kohaku: "Also, did you not see the trailer for Federation Force?"
Yes we did and it sucked major b@lls. I don't know what you saw, but to me personally, it is an insult to the Metroid Prime series to make it into some cutesy anime-like multiplayer shooter with below average graphics.
A new Mario Tennis and Paper Mario is nice and will surely be entertaining games, but over half of the presentation consisted of a rehash of titles that we've already seen before or knew about. The other two companies released info on nearly double the amount of titles. Some of these series may not be to everyone's liking, but still; they had action packed presentations.
So yeah, I think that people that love Nintendo and would like to see them win or succeed again for a change have a VERY good reason to be HUGELY disappointed.
Majorly disappointed by this E3, especially after last year's epic presentation. Several reasons why I'm letdown:
-Star Fox was the only exciting/interesting thing there.
-Zelda Wii U was NOT shown, just going to show that they revealed it entirely too early last year.
-The Wii U's Animal Crossing game is NOT an Animal Crossing game, but rather a Mario Party knockoff.
-Nobody wanted a new Mario Tennis.
-No new 3D Mario game! It's the 30th anniversary! I thought for SURE they would announce the next 3D Mario, especially since the EAD Tokyo team has been working on it ever since 3D World released. Super Mario Maker is all fine and dandy, but I wanted an ACTUAL Mario game to go alongside it.
-Where were all the new Wii U announcements that Iwata promised??
Things I did like about the presentation:
-Yoshi's Woolly World and Super Mario Maker have release dates now.
-The Mario & Luigi/Paper Mario crossover looks interesting and was really the only new announcement that caught my eye.
Overall I'm incredibly letdown.
Grow up, all you whingers. It wasn't good but let's not get all emo over it. Time to face facts - Nintendo is a profit driven business and Iwata's mandate is to squeeze every cent he can out of us consumers until NX is ready to cover Wii U's lacklustre sales. This means less focus on a traditional Animal Crossing game with a one off purchase price and limited DLC and more on whipping the Amiibo cash cow. This also means less focus on WiiU games and more support for the bouyant 3DS. They've tried keeping everyone satisfied (cos they know a mere five new games each isn't enough for you) and in a gasp attempt to stop you all moaning, they've started merging all their franchises to give each of your favourites some representation on this gen- as Nintendo inhouse don't have time or support to work with each IP individually to your expectations - hence FZero DLC in Mario Kart, Mario & Luigi with Paper Mario, AC with Mario Party, Fire Emblem with whoever designs an Anime style game...stop moaning at Nintendo and Iwata - it's not their fault they have shareholders who expect yearly growth after we've all thrown our wallets at them all for decades. They cannot please you all and god you are all so very spoilt! Have you all forgotten a time in your lives when being given a single game a year felt like a blessing?
@kingofthesofa No doubt Nintendo is stocking up ammo for the NX at this point. Retro Studios are probably being moved to the next platform, same with all Nintendo's other AAA devs. My prediction (and not so much a prediction as it is a near-certainty): there's literally no chance we'll see anything new from their AAA first party studios on Wii U. I hardly even expect Zelda to be exclusive to Wii U at this point.
I would say I was disappointed. Judging from how they spread announcement with near E3 micro direct, Smash direct and some NWC announcement, that suggests that they have plenty of stuff for E3 digital event, but damn... expectation shattered.
To be fair though, this Nintendo E3 reaction could be better if we have no leaks. The HW 3DS and Smash leaks is an utter let down, that bring the surprise down, while that could gain good reaction from fans.
As for my reaction on the whole events:
They have plenty of an exciting moment, but then was let down a few second later. The puppet show is pretty awesome, but Miyamoto puppet looks a little creepy to me.
Honestly, I dissapointed because of high expectation, but not really bad E3 if we consider every show Nintendo had here. NWC is awesome! I'll be hoping for some more announcement during Treehouse Live.
What it all boils down to is this: Nintendo didn't need an E3 presentation. All the games people are excited for are games that we already knew about. If you don't have anything else to show you may as well not have done a direct.
I already was going to get Yoshi, Mario Maker, Xenoblade X.
The Mario & Luigi game was the only notable title for me, which I still think is weird.
Also no King K. Rool announcement for Smash. I am disappointed.
@Sir_JBizzle - I never had a chance to reply to your earlier email - I couldn't get onto NL for the last hour, I think the ND was so bad it broke the internet - but I was going to write - "how do you like me now?". I think thats a car or beer cmmerical. Maybe both?
Do you think @BLPs drank himself to death while watching it, I haven't seen him comment today.
Oh, that Wii Music vid never gets old. but we DID get that kind of "suckittude" today, Animal Crossing amiibo Festival. Yes, it was that bad.
@TheHumbleFellow
yeah, but three things:
-star fox was almost the only exciting thing
and lastly, it looks kinda ugly for wii u standards...i was expecting something beautifull like super mario 3d world
The Animal Crossing game was the worst part of the show. I was certain they would transition from happy home designer to a WiiU version where you could import your designs into the game using the amiibo. Seems like a perfect use of the functionality and a way to upsell another game and figures/cards to users. Think about how easy it would be to populate your town with the characters you want and design their homes. But that seems like a wasted opportunity (maybe a Wii U AC is still coming but wasn't ready to show). I don't even know what the game is supposed to be even.
This is especially dumb since NOA just tweeted you can design town facilities as well in HHD. Major missed opportunity.
Honestly this year's digital event is pretty meh. The only big announcement is Star Fox. The rest of the titles are either we already know about or small titles. A party AC game? Really? Sony and Microsoft' presentation was way better.
Ugh...just read Star Fox has NO online multiplayer.
I wanted to vote for Star Fox but damm.....Fire Emblem touched me! I wish there was a way to change votes......
Honestly, all of the new stuff shown in the Digital Event could have been shown in the Mini Direct.
I realy enjoyed it
I'm honestly rather pleased, bad E3 = less money for me to spend.
This was a great E3. I had no prior expectations, which allowed me to enjoy the show.
These days, Nintendo is like the clingy ex-wife, who desperately keeps trying to seduce you even after turning her down time and again! You can't help but feeling sorry for her, especially because of the history between the both of you...But thank god there are 2 hotter ones begging for your attention!
@TheHumbleFellow Most complains aren't about starfox. See the polls. I think most people have one of the following reasons:
-no new pokémon game
-the new metroid
-no NX
I WAS HORRIBLE. Mario Tennis?? Animal Crossing Party game? Another party game??? STOP IT.
Only Zelda Triforce Heroes, Yokai Watch and Xenoblade did it for me. Metroid was a kick in the b****.
It was terrible, probably the worst since the Wii Music disaster of... 2008 was it?
All of the interesting games we knew about already, it was kinda cool to see starfox I guess, but the gyro controls were a total turn off for me.
At least there will be some happy people in this comment section
I have never felt so sad and horrible watching a Nintendo Direct/Digital Event. Seriously, I am always super happy and hyped but I felt GUTTED. my face was trying to run away from my dying body.
I dont get why most of the people are so negative...
nintendo made a new starfox and a new metroid and there is coming a never released eardbount!!!
and to think about all those new games that are coming like Yoshi woolly world and mario & luigi.
Not. Good.
I actually liked this e3.
Worst. E3. Ever.
It feels like Nintendo truly is abandoning the WiiU. It's a sad day
Oh and the pacing was horrible. I normally love how Nintendo's shows are better than Sony and Microsoft (like last year) but this was just...ugh..
It really started going downhill for me once all the Skylander talk began.
There were no big reveals. Mostly everything that got shown were titles we already knew about (ie: Xenoblade, Mario Maker, Star Fox).
And do we seriously need another Mario Tennis game? Those games were fun back in the day but enough already. Where's my super awesome cool solo-adventure Metroid game????
Where was Retro????
@JaxonH - You watch it in your car at work? Always interested in your opinion even if we usually don't agree. (Though I think technically we always agree on the glass having half, you just say half-full and I say half-empty ) Pretty close to how this one plays out I think. (OK, maybe my comments have the glass empty and shattered to pieces buried in a landfill, but I did get my dates, and that's really all I wanted.)
@MoonKnight7 - I'm giving you a 1-Up just for the formatting alone. (it probably helps I agree w/ everything you said.)
I think that Nintendo thinks Mario Maker is a much better concept than it actually is.
I can't be the only one who thought the puppets theme was going to extend to actual Star Fox visuals? I mean everyone remembers the puppets on the original box, Miyamoto even reiterated later how Thunderbirds was a huge influence. You make Mario out of Paper, Kirby out if clay and Yoshi out of wool ... why not have a puppet style Star Fox?
That was my first let down, it grew from there. Which is not to say it was all bad. Just not exciting. And Animal Party Crossing along with Metroid: Not Really were real gut punches.
Worst thing about that Metroid? As a new IP I'd be hyped! It looks good! But it is not Metroid! It makes me sad to think they understand so little what a special thing they have with that franchise that they felt this was a good route for it to take
It was utterly terrible, especially the Metroid trolling.
Well Mario Maker, Xenoblade & Fire Emblem are their best upcoming games by far atm.
Sorry Nintendo. You blew it.
@Tender_Cutlet I generally agree Nintendo really didn't have a 100% choice with this sh*tty Direct. The Wii U has been burning a tremendous hole in their pockets since it came out and they need to shift their development teams to a platform that has a prayer of selling better. That means no more AAA games, and a handful of crappy games to hold us over until the next platform arrives. Even Starfox looks distinctly bland and stale, like an up-rezzed N64 game with some minor tweaks to the gameplay. And that's what happens with very little development time and a company whose best teams have long since moved on to the next platform.
It's a disaster for sure. For me, this Direct has made me rethink if I even want to support the NX. Maybe if people don't buy the NX, Nintendo will stop making gimmicky hardware and focus on what makes them special: their games.
I just bought a wii u a few months ago, but Nintendo is already giving up on the wii u. So i guess i should give up on nintendo?
Leave it to Nintendo to never fully utilize a system that could have so much promise. The same games from them as on their old systems, just repackaged, but thrown in amiibos. I dont want aniibos i want great gameplay. You use to be cool Nintendo.
@Yorumi I actually think the gyro controls will be good if they are like Splatoon, but hopefully they have the ability to go traditional (I think this was mentioned but don't remember). No online is inexcusable for this game. Could have all sorts of cool modes with the vehicle transformations.
No seriously when does it start? There's no way that was it.
As upsetting as it is to me, I feel that they've actually gone and killed the entire Metroid franchise. It's unsurprising that the series is doing poorly if they hold off from making games for almost a decade at a time, and when they finally come out, they're sub-par. We'll see. I look forward to seeing reviews of Federation Force.
No Zelda - lets face it it's not happening on Wii U.
No Metroid on Wii U
Almost no RPGs a all
Animal Crossing bloody Party! - My wife is the worlds biggest AC fan, and she is not even remotely interested in that.
The 3DS line up was reasonable, but Wii U is dead, not even on life support. They might as well have held a wake. They are so obviously in a holding pattern for NX now, but this isn't how to retain fan loyalty.
Disappointed as all heck. And I didn't even have large expectations to begin with.
@Ngamer
"I dont get why most of the people are so negative...nintendo made a new starfox and a new metroid..."
You cannot be serious... You realize only Star Fox fits this "new" theory. I don't know wtf that other thing was, but I assure you, it was not Metroid.
More amiibo announced without addressing the issue of stock shortages, and Starfox looked, in terms of visuals and depth of character, incredibly lacking.
For Nintendo's 'big' game of the show, I was left wondering, 'WHAT THE HELL HAVE THEY BEEN ACTUALLY DOING WITH THIS GAME FOR A YEAR?!' Looked like a Gamecube or Vita game. It lacked a fundamental base of detail, which I found incredibly disconcerting, even aggravating.
Pffff.........Need to go cool off.....
Everything is already been said: nice puppets, poor content. Now let's assume for a second that Nintendo will releasing NX next year. How many people do they actually think will buy this new console or whatever it may be. Maybe Nintendo is saving up ZeldaU as a release title for NX and to attract buyers. But since i bought every Nintendo console since day one i feel a bit cheated with my WiiU with only a handful of titles. I'm playing the heck out of MK8, pikmin and Splatoon etc. But i fear for what's coming up. I'm in doubt if i will support NX. Nintendo is losing my interest because all these spinoffs they showed today are way too kiddy for my taste (and age LOL). I get Starfox and XenobladeX when available but that's seems to be it for a long time. And oh yes, i hate Amiibo. These kidstoys screw the experience. I totally understand the revenue model of Amiibo but to me this is just an artificial way to create interest without making something really interesting; a decent game. In other words, plastic crap. I think i'll startup an old classic again.
@TheHumbleFellow a lot of these games were revealed at the last E3 and the rest we either already knew about or were underwhelming.
@Sir_JBizzle You think that was worse than this.
http://images.nintendolife.com/news/2015/06/metroid_prime_federation_force_is_the_metroid_game_you_didnt_expect_or_perhaps_want/attachment/0/large.jpg
lol
Sorry, I can't embed images from my phone.
I must be the only person who preferred this over the last several E3 conferences. Star Fox, Fire Emblem, Zelda, Super Mario Maker all have me excited. The Direct was not very good, but it is better than last year, maybe better than 2013, and better than 2012.
I'm watching the Treehouse right now and the Metroid game actually looks like more fun than initially thought! Sort of an Monster Hunter for dummy's
The Metroid spinoff looks actually pretty good. They're playing it on the Treehouse stream.
@Webby-sama - All those Lego games on sale on 3DS and still no Lego City Undercover (I forget the subtitle)? Why did they even bother making it if they are never going to try and sell it? Do they think 3DS owners will for some reason seek it out?
So disappointed!
Get four amiibos to play an Animal Crossing board game!!
@Atlantidas I feel you.
I've been a die-hard Nintendo fan since I was a kid. I've been called a blind fan boy from all my friends but I didn't care because I knew Nintendo would always have their major franchises to keep themselves (and myself) going. I started doubting them this year since but then the prospects of E3 got me super excited for all the key franchises that SHOULD'VE received a new game...
Nintendo isn't going to have many of their core fans left if this is how they keep going. If they want to make tacky, multi-player games for kids than good for them, but I don't know how much more I can take before I give up on them altogether.
I have a question.
Will this survey results be sent to Nintendo? Will my vote even matter?
Because they really need to see this. The entire direct was a trainwreck from start to finish. Im saying all that because i care.
Terrible jokes and skits with the puppets and overall very disappointing showcase of games killed me.
Back to Splatoon. I'm just not sure it can sustain the Wii U by itself for another 6 months.
I'm predicting loses for the fiscal year. Unfortunately if you recently bought Nintendo stock, you might be loosing a fair amount of money.
@rjejr
Haha, thanks. I tried to keep it as simple as possible.
What's with all the Metroid hate? On the face of it, it's a good idea - take a well regarded franchise (Metroid), put it out on their standardbearing platform (3DS), give it a legacy link to Metroid Prime Hunters and really push the coop mulitplayer strategy they're seemingly in pursuit of...noone's whinging about the (only) Zelda announcement which is basically the same premise with ALBW and Four Swords...
As many people have said before me, a terrible Digital Event for Nintendo this year. Star Fox looked cool, but that was it. Metroid Federation Force and Blastball were jokes, Animal Crossing Amiibo Party is an insulting, Amiibo cash-in, and I dislike the idea of Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam so much I'm seeing red. I wanted a Metroid game, and a Paper Mario game, but this wasn't what I meant... Oh well. Mario Tennis looked kind of cool...
@BLPs - We were all just worried about you BLPS. And I did notice you catching a lot of flack last night during the PS4 stream, but I don't think of you that way, you just seem like an intelligent person w/ a sense of humour. Too bad intelligence is so frowned upon in the gaming community, it's right up there w/ religion and politics, follow the sheep.
I'm disappointed, but I should point out that I've never been a Star Fox fan. So don't lump me in with those people who "don't know what they want".
@Steel76 It's infuriating, isn't it? The Wii was a casual console and a misfire, but I personally gave Nintendo the benefit of the doubt and bought the Wii U, hoping they'd make it worthwhile. And man, nothing has made me come so close to losing my love for this company. What a waste of my time and money.
After this last presentation, I've begun seriously considering selling my Wii U. I've got a wedding to save up for anyway.
@MoonKnight7 Looked like a random game with the Metroid name attached. Probably so it would be a complete waste of money and development time.
It was bloody awful. RIP Wii U.
That was brutal. It seems all attention has been diverted to the NX, but in the process this has sunk the Wi U for good. I assume they will attempt to tread water until Holiday 2016, but that's not a good idea. Not with a beefed up PS4 and Xbox One taking over for good. I was hoping for VC, an explanation of the Club Nintendo replacement, and a release schedule filled with retail releases and a heavy dose of VC and indie. Instead, there one time to catch the common customer was totally wasted. I haven't bought a Wii U game since the start of the year, and I don't feel like putting money into something Nintendo deems dead at this point. And I'm strongly against doing that with the NX, because I don't want to be fooled like this again. I'm extremely disappointed and sad.
@FlaygletheBagel You won't get much for it. lol
@BLPs If you don't mind me asking, what happened?
Trying not sell my Wii U, don't take me bad guys, I still want SMTXFE, Wooly World, and Xeno X. But to me feel like the last year of the Wii.
Well, I actually liked it. It was a bit underwhelming, but there are a lot of games released at the end of this year that I would really like. I'll be entertained.
Worse than 2003, probably not quite as bad as 2008.
I suppose the main thing to take from it is Wii U is maybe not dead but on life support, and we may see NX on shop shelves earlier than many are expecting because that's where Nintendo's effort is going now.
@Coproll I completely agree with u. Its hard to invest in NX, when Nintendo didnt provide more content and titles for Wii U. I could see why third parties wouldnt invest in nintendo if the company itself won't even invest in its own gaming console.
Hmm, bit of a mixed bag for myself but interesting nonetheless.
Loved the Puppets idea and super excited for Yokai Watch, Super Mario Maker and Yoshi Woolly World. As for the rest, certainly not as epic as previous years and I can under the disappointment with Animal Crossing, Starfox, M&L x Paper Mario and Metroid shown.
Still gonna keep an eye on them anyway, as there's some interesting ideas there. Just a bit more variety would have been nice though.
RIP Wii U. At least we're getting Xenoblade and Fire Emblem x Megami Tensei in your final year.
I wouldn't be surprised if the NX is out by Holiday next year.
Some people are so easily pleased. They should come work for me. I will pay you "well".
Rubbish Nintendo E3. But I expected it. StarFox looked "better" on the N64.
I had a bet with a Nintendo fanboy who produced all sorts of "evidence" that the NX will not be released until Winter 2017.
After this E3 I am pretty sure I will win this bet (it's good beer money) and NX will be with us by Nov 2016.
I am disappointed because although I knew without third-party Nintendo will have 1% of the number of games on the other consoles, I still expected more. To not have a Zelda game after three damn years in a console's life is unforgivable in this era.
This E3 will be all 3DS and Wii U games we already know are in development.
I am 60% sure Devil's Third will be now be cancelled.
It seems the Wii U is going out like it came in, with a whimper.
I now look forward to the NX. C'mon Nintendo.
That Metroid game should have been called something else and launched as a new IP. Calling it Metroid, yet alone putting it under the Prime series, is just sowing seeds of discontent and ire from the fans. The only way to salvage that is a Direct previewing a proper console game which I don't foresee happening.
The behind the scenes of what inspires Miyamoto and how Mario used to be made was fascinating, I'd like to see a full documentary of such information.
I tried to justify that it wasn't bad for an hour and couldn't
2012/2003 levels, almost like 2008.
and @Hotfusion, 1 week ago I would completely disagree with you, but now, yeah I do believe about 2016 release.
@AVahne
They must have fled Wii U. Again
I was initial upset, but after talking a walk and deciding to grow up and not pi$$ and moan about everything I didn't get, there was actually ALOT there that I did like! Super Mario Maker, Star Fox Zero looked awesome (not n64-ish, do you even remember what n64 graphics looked like?!?) Xenoblade Chronicles X, Mario and Luigi Paper Jam, new Animal Crossing for 3ds, awesome 8-bit Mario amiibo, Animal Crossing amiibo, Skylanders and Nintendo's amiibo teaming up! Overall it was good for everyone, adults and kids included, not just adults. There where obvious disappointments though, namely Animal Crossing amiibo festival (3ds game should have been the wii u game) and "Metroid Prime" Federation whatever that garbage was, but otherwise, not bad! This year's E3 was kinda all around disappointing with barely an good surprises.
How anyone could justify AC: amiibo Festival as a good idea is beyond me
Boring and dissapinting. It is obvious that Nintendo doesn't have faith on Wii U anymore. That's very sad.
It's definitely not as strong as the past few years, but it was far from the worst. At any rate, it does feel like Nintendo is in the transition phase where they dont want to throw too many of their strongest games onto the Wii U and would rather push whatever they're holding back onto the NX.
I doubt anything could've "saved" this presentation because there's always unrealistic expectations along with everyone's eyes on the NX.
The puppets were a great start. Then it went downhill.
Sell your WiiU while it's still worth something and buy a PS4. We aren't getting ZeldaU anytime soon. They are probably saving it as a launch title for the NX. Deliciously fresh and sweet yarn games...
I like how there is no fanboy talk now. Nintendo did so bad that even the haters aren't haters and the fanboys aren't fanboys.
I can't remember the last E3 Nintendo didn't mean anything to me. And as a Nintendo fan and Wii U owner, it truly is a sad state of affairs when I'm coming out of E3 thinking of Microsoft. I mean, they're actually making me consider getting a non-Nintendo system for the first time since the SEGA Genesis because of that Rare collection and both South Park games.
knowing starfox will have no multiplayer was the last thing... 100% disappointedd... big letdown, rip WiiU
@jjmesa16 Yep, should've done it sooner honestly. I dumped way too much money on this system. Gamecube adapter and controllers, a couple Pro controllers, a bunch of Wii Remotes, Classic Controllers, Ethernet connector, and so on. I'd be lucky to make even a third of what I spent back.
@FlaygletheBagel
True that. Wait til NX is announced with a launch range to make the SNES blush and then see how many of these naysayers keep their promise to pass on Nintendo...
Oh good. It's not just me then. A Nintendo fan who hated the show from start to end.
@MKCustodial You won't be disappointed. Unlike Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony listen to feedback and make their consoles among the best gaming ecosystems out there. I own a PS4 and I flip it on every day. The Wii U I haven't used in months. And that's coming from someone who grew up with and loves Nintendo.
@TheHumbleFellow its definitely not Star Fox we're upset about. It's pretty much everything else.
As usual, neat but nothing special. Nintendo seems hung up on puppets and Robot Chicken to carry them.
"Hey it's Reggie remember when he said ass that one time!"
@Toadthefox
exactly, everything we saw in the presentation feels rushed, shallow and not even close to the golden gameplay like we all know nintendo can bring us. i simply don't understand why they think that we will buy all this and simply hop to the next console when it's released. i will check every game that comes out and take my words back when i'm wrong but for now it feels like cheap talk and totally disconnected from the fanbase, completely. i rather look at a crappy presentation full of great games then a muppetshow with this news. they should put there creative energy in making great games instead of over the top marketing.
TERRIBLE. This was Nintendo's last chance to keep me a fan, but now I think this is the nail in the coffin for my interest in video games. Starfox looks decent, but nothing else was impressive even slightly. Starfox will probably be the last game I ever buy aside from possible smash bros games of future generations.
@TheAceofMystery Agreed
@MKCustodial I'm a huge Nintendo fan, I didn't think this year was that bad, but I'm leaving thinking of PlayStation 4 is a great console, and trying to help my "Nintendo is awesome, they'll do it, you'll see!" lil kid in me from saying "well, that was.....yup....looks at playstation conference WOW, COOL!!!" and yea, I haven't strayed much from Nintendo since Sega Genesis, but I have a feeling that is soon to change...
The 3DS is alive and the Wii U is dead.It should be the opposite because the 3DS is way older. I made the right choice at getting a 3DS at launch and the wrong choice at getting a Wii U.Nintendo made so many Wii U promises and utterly failed to keep them.the 3DS will be remembered as a great gaming system that stood up to the smart phone market and did very well. The Wii U will not be remembered much at all,except for 3D World,Zelda Wii U and Mario Maker.
If they showed Animal Crossing U, I would've automatically thought of this E3 as a good one. Since we got...something else...I can no longer say that. I am rarely disappointed by Nintendo but I just wanted one thing. ONE THING! And they let me down.
Overall disappointing. The only games I'm interested in getting that were shown was Yoshi's Woolly World, Mario Maker, and Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam. 2 of those were shown at E3 2014.
Also, I'm not trying to be racist here but I'm not into all of the anime style games they showed.
@PrincePeach92 About Animal Crossing? Me too.
Why would they make a Metroid game without Samus!!!!????
Why would they spend a quarter of the presentation on a game that's already been released in many parts of the worold, that was in last year's E3 and then show a developer interview longer than gameplay itself??
Why would they shy away from the regular formula of Animal Crossing which has been extremely successful and then make a stupid party game out of it?
Why would you waste so much time talking about amiibo in SKYLANDERS?
Why did they just stick up their middle finger to the Wii U and all of its faithful owners??
I just don't get it. I've been a die hard Nintendo fan for years but I can't express how disappointed I am in them right now. If it weren't for some good 3DS titles, this E3 would've been a complete disaster.
If you say that was good, or even passable, you a drone of the lowest order.
How Nintendo can hear people begging for a new Metroid and then present them with some goofy sports thing is just baffling.
This was proof positive that not only does Nintendo not understand where the industry is or is going, but they don't even understand their own audience's wants. They kept trotting out those muppets like it was cute or funny, then ended with a 10-minute montage of YouTube idiots. Completely out of touch.
@NandN3ds I just bought a Wii U a couple months ago, and I'm sorta regretting not waiting and saving for a PS4. I love my new nintendo 3ds xl, Nintendo is doing everything right with that system, but Nintendo's home consoles just aren't what they use to be. Even showing Xenoblade Chronicles X and that isn't enough to make me say "wow" anymore.
I thought the direct was a mess. They created a lot of goodwill through the Earthbound release and Nintendo Championship before this, but it wasn't carried through to the main showing. There were a few good announcements, but ultimately, I wasn't impressed.
What WAS that? Starfox is nice to see again but it looks a generation out of date. Why did we need to see so much Mario Maker? We already had an hour of seeing why it was awesome during the NWC finals. The new Zelda looked a bit gimmicky, but I enjoyed the Four Swords titles. SMTxFE didn't have much new, but we saw it a few months ago so no complaints there, FE: Fates is getting localized (hopefully without the split versions) so that's good. Yo-Kai Watch, Mario Tennis, Animal Crossing... doesn't interest me, really, but can't complain. Paper Jam looks like a hoot, hopefully they learnt their lesson with Sticker Star. But dear god, Federation Force is a slap in the face. I'm fine with a new portable entry in the series, since I adored Hunters. But I think Hunters looked more visually attractive, and the gameplay shown in the Treehouse part after the show looks bland and uninteresting, as well as nothing like a Metroid title. Absolutely the biggest disappointment of the show for me. A bunch of games they already had in the pipeline were never brought up (Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon had a trailer shown shortly after the show, Devil's Third is out in August and still nothing about it, Fatal Frame is another). Square Enix, Sony, and Bethesda walked all over Nintendo this time.
@Ninty4thewin Amiibo is the last way Nintendo found to milk its fanbase....
I am honestly done with that.... I wanna games, variety, quality, new IPs, not toys and Mario-Masterchef collections....
It started out amazing with the puppets and Star Fox Zero, then... what happened?
Stuff like Metroid Prime FF could've used some context; like "why did they decide to go in this direction with the series?" While stuff we already knew about got developer stories...
It didn't feel like an E3 presentation overall, just an hour long Direct. WAY too many games didn't need to be in the presentation.
Nintendo, you're better than this!
Nintendo has always been my number one video game company, but now, I'm glad I never bought a Wii U and bought a PS4 instead. At least my 3DS will keep me company for the next year.
Also, where the bloody hell is Devil's Third?
Did I miss something? Didn't everyone complain when nintendo didn't do multiplayer and now that they are people are still mad?
@atomicjuicer @Nintend0ro It wasn't THAT bad. It had some high points and some low points.
HIGH POINTS (for me, anyway):
Star Fox Zero
Zelda: Triforce Heroes
Metroid Prime: Federation Force
Mario and Luigi: Paper Jam
LOW POINTS (Again, just my opinions):
Yokai Watch
No Zelda U
No Amiibo restocking, More amiibo support
Buy a New Nintendo 3DS Xl it has a huge games library and is going to be around for a long time.
Ahem
Nintendo is doomed!!!
When I started watching seeing starfox I was SUPER HYPED. Then everything else was horrible. The new Wii u animal crossing thing is pretty much an insult. I saw animal crossing and I was hyped, then it was a board game. At the end when they were going on about Marios 30ty anniversary, I was just hoping they would say 'one more thing' and do Galaxy 3 or Sunshine 2, but nope.
Get a ps4 lads.... I started the gen with the WiiU but one year ago I got a ps4... i do not regret it.... I am actually playing everything I want and more..... you will always find something that satisfy your taste.... dunno, maybe because I am over 30, maybe I changed my tastes, but I have enough of this blablablahing about the same stuff years after years, like Mario and Zelda and another Mario and party games.....
Sorry to repeat my-self, but Firefox without Multiplayer is just stupid... actually very stupid....
@MasterBombad
Metroid Prime: Federation Force is a spinoff.
Pretty underwhelming and very 3DS heavy and not much Wii U
I am interested in the 3DS Hyrule Warriors but not much else. Oh well I have plenty of other games to play anyway.
It was awful. And embarrassing. They pretty much dug the grave for the Wii U. I'm really hoping that at next year's e3 not only do they announce NX but they also reveal HUGE games coming at (or near) launch like a true Mario and Metroid. Because they clearly have nothing to show for Wii U anymore.
@IceClimbers
And what's supposed to fill the dead space between June 2016 and November 2017? Nintendo doesn't have anything to prolong the Wii U in that time, or they'd have shown something. The big problem with thinking the NX will come in 2017 is that we are currently looking at a Nintendo that will literally have nothing to show at that time. Third parties aren't here. Ohh, Skylanders and Just Dance. Ppff. Even indies are walking away.
Hell, we didn't see what Retro is working on--that's a pretty big red flag, particularly since DKC:TF came out in 2014--which means Retro has already had a good year, possibly more to work on their NX title. All Nintendo showed at E3 was smaller games easily handled by smaller interior teams, and other titles--like Xenoblade, StarFox, Project Treasure (hey, where the hell was that?), SMTxFE are being handled entirely or in large part by external studios.
Nintendo has more than enough internal development set aside right now to prepare for a 2016 NX release, and every indication is that is precisely when it will show up. There is not enough games or momentum to carry the Wii U beyond this point next year. 2016 is clearly the last year for the Wii U.
Unless NX launches in the first quarter of 2017, every indication we have points to fall 2016. On top of which, there was also Iwata's statement that they will be "back in Nintendo-like profits" for the fiscal year ending March 2017. No doubt, a big part of that plan, is the NX falling squarely in that window, because the Wii U and 3DS will not do it.
Now, November 2017 could happen, but all the evidence and indications we have right now point to 2016. Lack of games for Wii U, lack of AAA titles for Wii U, no new AAA Wii U announcements at all, a focus on smaller games, and a focus on 3DS games indicates that Nintendo is getting ready to push the Wii U aside next year. Not later.
Hell, they replaced the GBA at the 4-year mark, and it was performing a lot better. The remainder of 2015 and 2016 for the Wii U mirrors the final years for the N64, GameCube, and Wii. The titles we have remaining are being spread out to cover some space while Nintendo preps the new system.
NX: November 2016.
Look at the XBO and PS4 (and PC for that matter). There are games announced straight through 2016, filling out 2016, and towards the end of the year. Nintendo barely has that for this year. The NX is coming sooner rather than later. All the available evidence points to a 2016 release, and this dismal, small-game-focused, no AAA, toy-centric E3 points directly to that.
We didn't get new Metroid games. We got new Metroid teasers, stopgaps. Two more Zelda games operating in exactly the same capacity. Hell, even Miyamoto himself noted that the next major (AAA) Mario game will be for the NX, which indicates that they are developing it now, if not well into development of it.
I don't want to come off like I'm picking on you, but the only that seems to be given for why anyone thinks the NX will arrive in 2017 is repeating this mantra of "5 year cycle, 5 year cycle" despite that the Wii had a six year cycle and the GBA had a 4 year cycle, and the original Game Boy lasted over a decade. There is no evidence that Nintendo is going to wait until 2017 for this thing. None. There are countless indicators that it is vastly more likely to arrive in 2016--especially the slim showing of this E3, with no new franchises, notable absences (like Retro), and several smaller-scale games that could be delivered without taking attention away from NX game development in-house. The biggest red flag is just the blatant lack of 2016 content for the system. Like the last year of the N64 and GameCube, which both featured very, very few releases, notable or otherwise.
Stupid pink thing in Animal Crossing Happy Home Designer.
(Animal Crossing Mario Party? Wt*)
I'm excited for Paper Mash and Hyrule Warriors 3DS though xD
Star Fox Zero had me pumped..!!!
....until Miyamoto-san started talking about gyro controls......
I'm quite surprised about the reactions when I mostly see people hyping pretty much everything in Nintendolife. Like Mario Kart 8, good game but there are many better racing games.
3DS Metroid might have been something people do not expect from the series but it really looked like a fun multiplayer title. Star Fox looked very good as well as many other games we've heard about already. Then there were great looking new titles like Mario & Luigi Paper Jam and that 3-player Zelda (you know, it's been OVER 10 YEARS since Four Sword Adventures).
Animal Crossing Party thing wasn't too impressive but that really sums up the entire AC series anyways: play one of them and you've seen it all.
Seeing animal crossing on the wii u made me jump out of my chair. It was only then I realized it was a party game. Guh. Why? We just got mario party 10.
@arnoldlayne83
Couldn't agree more. Actually you should get any other console or PC (and Wii U if you must have Nintendo games).
However, Nintendo is enough for some people who ONLY want to play Nintendo games.
Sales of the Wii U tells me that number is NOT very big as I am sure a good portion of the 9m+ own another console. I own the PS3 with the Wii U.
I am currently building a mid-range gaming PC. Will pickup a PS4 later when Uncharted drops.
I will also pick up the NX. I think it might be the last console as we know it from Nintendo.
As a 3DS (with some Wii U and PS4) gamer, I'm very pleased. Not 100%, but a solid 80% pleased. Some great and really weird 3DS titles I couldn't have dreamed of! Metroid (which I just rewatched the trailer) looks a little rough, but its early yet and Level Up Games did make the one of the prettiest game on the 3DS (Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon) so I do have some confidence (unlike the rest of you folks). Mario and Luigi Paper Jam looks...nuts. I'm not going to preorder that one...I need to see more and decided if I need it (which I kinda do), TriForce Heroes looks like an expanded idea on Four Swords and with Online, it could be a sleeper hit. (That I'm so buying, will be hard to brake away from Fallout 4 though...) Then Chibi Robo Zip Lash and Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon (and everything Atlus is giving us), its gonna to be an expensive year for my 3DS (which is prefect....for me, not my wallet)
And that isn't even mentioning Fire Emblem Fates! Still need to get Codename STEAM first, (support Intelligent Systems little guy/new IP!)
The Good:
The Bad:
I don't want to jump the gun, in fact I think a lot of the games have potential. The 3DS Zelda, Fire Emblem, Yo-kai Watch, etc. BUT, everything else shown didn't have any context behind it. I don't want to hate the Metroid and Animal Crossing games that are coming out but as it stands they have done absolutely nothing to make them look appealing to me. Pretty weak as far as trailers for these games. Also, I'll admit that even the Starfox trailer didn't look all that great. And finally, I'm very annoyed that amiibo is being crammed into every possible Nintendo game at the moment. I know they're selling well, I just personally could not care less about them, especially after the continuous stock issues. I'll wait to see more on all these though before I come to conclusions.
@DBPirate
It's not racist to be against anime-style games. I also don't have the taste for them. Racist would be if you didn't like games "with all those racial minorities of some kind." Anime is just an animation style.
That I find highly annoying 98% of the time.
It looks like they took out the wall mechenic from zelda, hopefully not, but it wasnt in the trailer. Another thing, wheres the code name steam dlc? Or more fire emblem amiibos? Ethier way i dont like how its an unfinished game. Wasnt it supposed to be 2015 only? everything was 2016, Also why does nintendo never release games in the summer?
Where Was RETRO?
This was probably anyones worst showing at e3. Absolutely horrible. Honestly would anyone want to pick up a wiiu after watching that? I believe the wiiu is officially dead and NX will be its replacement. Zelda and Metroid will be launch titles. Hope Im wrong and later in the week they surprise everyone and show off more unannounced wiiu titles, but I doubt it.
Very disappointed.
I know why they don't do the live conferences anymore lol. Still wish they had a little section of the titles that may be getting localized, Final Fantasy Explorers, maybe even the DBZ game that got released over in Japan, and still included Yo-kai watch.
How in hell did this come together?! The start carried a lot of promise with the funny puppet intro, and StarFox Zero, despite the mediocre visuals, looked really fun. And then it went downhill at terminal velocity.
I mean, is this Federation Force bulls**t really what Nintendo considered a worthy revival of the Metroid franchise?! Am I really gonna have to admit that Other M is no longer the worst thing that happened to Metroid???
And the same goes for everything that isn't Super Mario Maker - nothing but sad jokes and slaps in the face. Animal Crossing goes Mario Party, Paper Mario becomes a gimmick slave for the next Mario & Luigi, Fire Emblem Fates is becoming increasingly japanotypical (in a bad way), FExSMT starts to look really stupid in terms of character design (Chrom is a demon ninja - DAFUQ???), Zelda Triforce Heroes is a wannabe Four Swords, Hyrule Warriors Legends shows that Tecmo Koei never really bothered to utilize the WiiU's power, and just to ice the f**cking cake, Mario Tennis was deemed important enough for an E3 event - but not FATAL FRAME!!!
Seriously, the only things that weren't a plain insult to the fanbase were Yoshi's Wooly World, Star Fox Zero, and Yo-Kai Watch. Period.
@4stringsteve Yeah Dragon Ball would have been a no brainer
@Hotfusion I fear that WiiU will be my last from Nintendo...
I will wait at least 2 years before jumping into another N console.... I need 3rd parties and good hardware, not weird controllers and mainly 2d platformers/party games
@Quorthon There's nothing to prove that Nintendo has enough internal development resources set aside for the NX. The 3DS's launch is cold, hard proof of that. The DS's last few years would have suggested they have internal resources at work on 3DS games as all the major games were done by external studios, save for Kirby Mass Attack. Yet their games took too long to come out. We didn't have anything major at launch. Zelda didn't come for 2.5 years after the 3DS's launch. The influx of games only came when the 3DS flopped out the gate and Nintendo realized "oh s***, we screwed up", resulting in them going in all-hands on deck mode and screwing the Wii U over in the process.
So again, they very well could be doing nothing right now. I'd be willing to bet on it.
@Quorthon
I just feel like someone's going to be touchy and I'm going to offend them or something. Never really got all the hype around those sort of things.
@Kaze_Memaryu I really liked the Fire Emblem trailer, i thought it was the standout of the show
Why even bother Nintendo, why even bother. Having no major secret games unveiled kind of solidified Nintendo's lapse into being irrelevant. At least for consoles, as the 3DS still looks to have a healthy amount of games coming. As a Wii U owner, I feel very let down and their inability to salvage this situation has tarnished their brand big time. There are a million things they could have done to fill this massive continuous void of games. I gave them the benefit of the doubt, I gave them patience, but this is my last Nintendo Console sadly. I'm going for the Steam Box I think, unless NX blows me out of the water. Going back to the unveiling video of the Wii U, several features still haven't been implemented which is sad. I love Nintendo, but damn am I disappointed.
@MrMario02 Well, obviously.
But "Why?" is what I would've liked to know. Metroid's never gone in this direction before, and we need more than a short trailer to get on board with the idea of playing a Metroid game without Samus.
@IceClimbers fair enough, forgot about that, my mind doesn't usually remember when remakes come out. I guess including remakes and crossovers, yes, we have three Zeldas this year... But crossovers don't always appeal to core fans and remakes are of already readily available games. Neither have taken many resources from Nintendo (as one was handled by Tecmo and the other by Grezzo).
I was very pleasantly entertained. I think Sony built the most hype with two incredibly large announcements but Nintendo wasn't far behind. And besides, I think it was far more engaging and exciting than Microsoft's presentation. In any event, I think this shows that despite incredible announcements revealed throughout the year with the awesome Nintendo Directs, it pays to have some aces up your sleeve for E3. After last year, I think people expected more. I'm happy but clearly not everyone is.
I guess I'm one of the few who thought it was fine. The Wii U side was a bit disappointing, but the Xenoblade release date and Star Fox Zero content made up for the lack of much else. The 3DS side of it was amazing, though. My friends and I all really enjoyed watching it. It was far better than the snoozefest Square Enix conference right after...
No option for "Nothing For Me This Year"?
In the grand scheme, Nintendo had a solid showing (Smash Direct, NWC 2015 & Digital Event). While everything was spread a little thin over the 3 events and the previous 2 Nintendo Directs (April/May), this was FAR from their worst showing (go back and watch their 2003 & 2008 shows for really bad showings). Overall I was personally pleased (especially Star Fox) but was quite disappointed that Devil's Third was completely ignored and Fatal Frame only came in with an afterthought trailer (that was one of my most anticipated titles). The Metroid game was an interesting surprise but a huge missed opportunity by skipping the Wii U in favor of the 3DS. That would have been a perfect online/local co-op title for the system which was much needed with Call of Duty skipping the Wii U (provided they had revamped the art style to be more in line with the Prime series on Wii U).
Overall:
Microsoft = A: Microsoft was tight with great games and cool announcements (Hololens looks sweet and love the Backwards compatibility)
Nintendo = B-: Solid but needed a lot more punch.
Sony = C-/D: considering 95% of the stuff they showed is freaking 2016 and so much of it wasn't theirs (indie/third party). If I heard "Exclusive Timed DLC" or "On PS4 Platform First", I was going to scream. Sony's was the worst and most boring to sit through.
There were a lot of fun-looking games, yes. But the goal of E3 is to get people excited for what's coming up.
There was nothing exciting in this year's presentation.
@Kaze_Memaryu It's truly a depressing thought to think but, yes, Other M is now no longer the worst Metroid game. At least it had Samus Aran in it!
Anyone think that this Metroid b***hit is just a mock up from the Nintendoland one? They are desperately trying to push out games reusing other ones?
There could still be a Metroid or a F-Zero next year. Nintendo did say they would only show games that are releasing in 2015. There are still 5 big games for Wii U this year.
Maybe they will run another direct to show 2016 after they see media & public reaction to this Direct. Maybe there will be more through the week.
I have to say I was disappointed, especially as there was no news on VC or the new Club Ninty. Just trying to stay positive
@TreonsRealm Nintendo B and Sony C/D ????
Ok mate... we must have seen different events then...
@Royalblues Bloodborne made the deal for me... that game is freaking amazing.... Bayonetta meets dark souls.....
Plus Dragon Age, The witcher and Driveclub, one of the best arcade sim in years. Helldivers and Diablo III are hell of a fun on multiplayers..... and generally you always find somethng to play
Presentation was great; content was lame.
But it's not the end of the world, or necessarily the Wii U, but admittedly it doesn't bode well with that Animal Crossing bilge and nothing new worth looking forward to.
But that XCX trailer was fantastic, so i'm back on that train I reckon, and so am glad my wallet won't be mutilated and I get an opportunity to play through my backlog until that comes out. I'll wait for reviews on Star Fox.
@Hotfusion I've had two consoles since the Genesis days. There are too many good games to be tied to just one system. I'm waiting for Sony to announce a slim model with more storage before I get one. Uncharted and Ratchet & Clank are the ones I can't wait for.
Amiibo is becoming overpriced day 1 DLC hidden behind cute figures. An entire game where you can only play using amiibo? That's the actual price of the game+4 amiibo.
Metroid without Samus? What's next, Zelda without Link?
Starfox looks cool. Nintendo with da barrel roll memes...
Super Mario Maker...Super Mario Maker...Super Mario Maker...seriously, way too much footage of this game. At least make it for 3DS...
Paper Mario x Mario and Luigi? Looks interesting...
Wait, is that it? What about Pokemanz? Pikachu? WHERE ARE YOU PIKACHU!?!!?! Seriously, no new Pokemon game? What are you thinking Nintendo/Game Freak...
@IceClimbers I thought The Last Guardian was confirmed for 2016, granted it was also confirmed for ps3 but you never know. I thought Microsofts was pretty good aside from the slightly pointless backwards compatibility, yeah it's nice but not that big a deal when 360's are so cheap, however I liked the mod stuff for Fallout which I'm slightly jealous about. Also you forget Uncharted 4 which looks truly amazing, granted FF7 is a while away but I never thought I'd ever see it so can cope with a little wait. The lack of exclusives this winter maybe a blessing for my social life with the likes of Fallout 4, Star Wars and Metal Gear.
Nintendo really need to get their act together if they really believe an Animal Crossing board game, Mario Tennis and making slightly Odd Metroid/Zelda multiplayer games is going to compete whilst the real Zelda game hides away seemingly destined to be pushed onto the NX
Was hoping that project robot was going to be a part of E3 as well.
@Royalblues you really should... I am totally hooked.... into ng+ and still wanna play and play and play... fust paced, amazing graphics and environment, the combat is sooo satisfying.... GOTY for me...
@BLPs - I highly recommend a nap. I don't know how any of you EU/UK guys survive E3. Oh well, time to go rewatch the ND w/ my kids. I'm guessing it will go better w/ them, they should b every excited about the SKylanders amiibo. I'm buying those, but I'm just treating them as eSkyaldners toys, not amibo. (We have about 70 Skylanders and 5 amiibo)
I have a question about the title that was propably the most disappointing for everyone (or maybe that was Metroid): is Animal Crossing Party thing going to be a full price retail title that you can't play without amiibo?
@A01 All of this!
The Nintendo system is a second system to me, so I'm not as devastated at this E3 as some others, it came out with some fun titles but I know its just winding down. I'm surprised how bad Nintendo came out at this E3 though with some of their IP decisions. It looks like Wii U's future isn't looking great outside of Zelda. The other systems are only going to get better game libraries next year, and by the time those games come out Wii U will probably be dead at that point.
@Yoshis_VGM Agree with every single thing you said there. I'm a big fan of the Mario & Luigi games and that was the only thing that I got genuinely excited about (that was new).
That seriously sucked! Give us a Zelda U trailer and you might just get some of your fans back...
It is weird to think that the Wii U is basically on its final stretch of its life span and nothing to show for it.......
What a disappointment. Sure Zelda was confirmed for Wii U but I definitely see that getting the Twilight Princess treatment and being released on both the new and old systems. And even still that is one great game left announced. Star Fox was underwhelming as hell and let's hope to god that Retro isn't working on another DK game. This is coming from a guy who adored the DKC games from them as well. Metroid was much better fitted for a trilogy. We don't need another DKC trilogy. We need Metroid or F-Zero. And Metroid isn't going to happen with that mediocre blast ball they showed. What a middle finger to Metroid fans. That would have been good and all if it was released alongside a new full fledged Metroid game, but it wasn't......
Reggie said he'd "give us the games we didn't even know we wanted". He gave us the games we didn't even know we didn't want.
@arnoldlayne83 I understand that certain parts of the world have a natural preference for Sony but if you're looking for stuff from Sony in 2015, their show was AWFUL. If you were looking for vague promises and 2016 titles, Sony nailed it.
They led the show with a title from 2007 (originally the PS3 poster child) and the game barely looked any different from the original PS3 reveal (8 years ago!) yet we are supposed to be excited for it? Morpheus felt like an Oculus Rift copy (which it largely is) while the Hololens is a true game changer that doesn't blind you from the outside world while playing. They even tried to make a big deal out of Final Fantasy VII Remake which only just began development making it a 2017/2018 title at the earliest!
I will agree that they deserve a solid B+/A- if your looking at 2016 and beyond but considering that we still have half a year left of 2015, they utterly failed to make any type of compelling argument to buy/own the system in 2015.
The Digital Event had some interesting announcements but not the level of energy we got from the competition or even Nintendo's 2014 video. Need to hype it better next year Nintendo.
Disappointed on a significant level. What they did to Metroid is something I won't quite get over. Until they announce an actual Metroid game with Samus.
@IceClimbers
You think Nintendo is doing nothing right now? Nothing is what they brought to E3. It's been pretty obvious for months now that Nintendo is shifting internal teams, and Miyamoto's "next Mario, next console" quip came last year.
Nintendo has made a lot of mistakes, but I don't think they're going to spend an entire year having no reason for anyone to look at their game console (which is what would happen if NX was held off until 2017). The last time Nintendo had a powerful launch was with the GameCube. It wasn't just the 3DS or Wii U that had sluggish, "where are the games?" launches. It was also the Wii and DS. The same with Sony and Microsoft. No new console launches at 100%. Nintendo will have plenty to prepare for the NX to launch next year to be a perfectly average, even solid console launch. Especially is Zelda U also becomes Zelda NX, which, given how well that worked with Twilight Princess, they'd almost be stupid not to do this.
Nintendo has also been quieter with new Wii U and 3DS games than they were with the Wii and DS at this point in their lives. Sure, they showed a lot of 3DS games--many of which are ports, already released (like Yokoi Watch), or built on existing engines. They are releasing games which do not require their full attention, because their full attention is elsewhere.
Preparing for NX to launch in 2016.
We are not seeing remotely their full output from their internal teams right now. Not even close. Because those guys are working on NX games. The complete lack of any announcement of any new AAA-level Wii U games at E3 is very telling. If the NX was slated for 2017, they'd have announced some more new games to fill out 2016.
They didn't do that.
@TreonsRealm
Sheenmue to me sounded like a demonstration that Sony is listening its fanbase and pushing projects.
Morpheus was into the conference for less than 10 minutes (not like this Mario Maker that took 30 minutes or more.... every f***ing interval between two games there was a mario maker stuff). The Sony conference had a great pace, there was a ton of announcements and bombs. The lineup is solid from now till 2016, and Sony has no problem about software drought.... they have a queue of developers that wanna publish on the platform....
@bezerker99
I'm pretty sure Other M will still be the worst. Because it directly assaulted Samus. These things are lazy cash-grabs, but at least they don't appear to be designed to ruin Samus as a character.
Aunderwhelmed. Happy about paper jam and star fox though.
@Quorthon I Agree.... it really looks like they have nothing left for WiiU..... now I really believe the new console will come very soon....
I'm just plain appalled. I eagerly waited for this day for what? Yeah Xenoblade Chronicles X is awesome - but we already knew about that. Yokai watch getting localized was on my wishlist too. And I legitimately jumped for joy with that one. But everything else was just not for me.
Star Fox looks interesting - that new 3DS Zelda game too. But you can't have Sony showing off No Man's Sky or Microsoft showing Fallout 4 and expect Mario Maker to hold it's own. I mean really: what was that?
It seems to me that Nintendo just wasn't listening this year. Which is sad because I wish them the best. But they'll soon realize that not every one of their fans goes ga-ga for Mario and his many different iterations. Even if it is his anniversary.
So only two games in that entire video (which amounted to no more than 5-6 minutes in total together) made me happy. The rest was just saddening. I just feel that Microsoft knew exactly what they were doing this year; Sony was experimenting and Nintendo was just doing handstands for kicks.
I can't believe I'm saying this but I think Nintendo really let down it's fanbase this year. The indies have me more excited for what they have coming and that's a big warning sign for Nintendo.
@BLPs An amiibo can't be your girlfriend friendo.
@DBPirate
I don't get the Anime love, either. Most of the "adult" anime I've seen still has stories written for immature 10-year-old boys, devoid of character development or depth, and largely filled with swearing, violence, and nudity just to garner that adult attention. Way too much of that crap feels like this to me.
This is the reason why Playstation and Xbox are selling very well while Nintendo struggles in the charts month after month. This is the biggest gaming show of the year and this is the best they could do?
No wonder people think Nintendo is a third-rate video game company that gets by peddling out of date hardware and games starring their aging mascot. Why would anyone go out and buy a Wii U based on what Nintendo showed off?
If someone who was considering a new system was sat down and was asked to pick a PS4, Xbox One, and Wii U based on E3 press conferences from this year, who in their right mind would pick the Wii U?
I love Nintendo, but they are so out of touch with what their fanbase wants, they would not have a clue if a neon glowing ball marked "Metroid" or "F-Zero" hit Iwata in the face.
If this is the best Nintendo can do at the biggest gaming show of the year, and the NX is supposed to be shown off at next year's E3, then I'm deeply worried about Nintendo. Despite all their claims to the contrary, its clear they still don't get it, and from the looks of it, they will keep getting shoved into a corner while Sony and Microsoft take all the gaming press and get all the attention.
I don't hate Nintendo, I just wish they would do better.
This was their chance to come out with guns blazing, to show the world that despite the negative news about them, they are still very much a major player in the video game business.
Instead, they come out firing a nerf gun and helped fuel the fire that they are out of touch with the very fanbase that helped sell the Wii U and 3DS to this point and the only reason why they are not going the way of Sega is because they can sell little plastic figures of their characters.
I just don't get it. There is no excuse for such a poor show from Nintendo, especially when Sony and Microsoft had such good shows.
@Noonch LOL
@Arthedain I also want to know what Retro is working on!
@BLPs Damn i was kidding take a joke funny man.
I am going with most of the press and gaming sites on this one (even Forbes who I rarely agree with anything they write but..) I would give it to Sony.. just.
Sony - MS - Ubi - Everyone else - Nintendo.
@Dr_Corndog
So true. The aim is to turn people on to your products. Ultimately the winner is really the one that sells the most consoles after each E3. Last year Nintendo took the moral victory, but no way won the war. People liked what Nintendo did in 2014, but even that wasn't enough to force many consumers to buy a console they obviously don't really want because the content doesn't excite them.
@Yorumi
I'm aghast, to be honest. I mean, I didn't expect them to topple MS or Sony because their consoles are entering their major growth period while the Wii U is in it's decline, but I never expected it would be quite this bad. The vast bulk of their showing was games we knew about! Xenoblade for the third E3 in a row! No major teasers, no major announcements, and not a single newly revealed game was of a AAA caliber or even close.
Fatal Frame, Devi's Third, Project Treasure, and that Pokken Fighters were all totally ignored. Not only did they manage to show very little of anything remotely noteworthy, but they even whittled down the showing to what amounted to a proclamation of "we make games for kids, and nothing else." The hubris surrounding Mario Maker as "if you want to make games, you'll like this!" is staggering. It's like they haven't heard of LittleBigPlanet or Minecraft or Project Spark or the dozen(s) of other similar titles.
And I'm flat-out amazed that Retro didn't show up. I'm quite convinced now that whatever they're doing, it's for the NX.
When I get home today, my son is going to to ask how was the Nintendo E3, and I will hold him by the shoulders and and let him know, that everything will be alright, there will be better days, as soon as I can afford a PS4
I thought it was Animal Crossing DLC for Mario Party 10.
The presentation itself was by far the best part of the event; it was light-hearted and fun, the puppets were fantastic and Nintendo has continued to embrace the fact that they're the Dad Joke of the modern games industry (which is great). Most of the games shown were things we knew about already, which was a little disappointing, but having fewer surprises at E3 is a price you have to pay when you have Nintendo Directs every 2-3 months (and that's a price I'm more than willing to pay, personally). I was actually pleasantly surprised at how strong a showing the 3DS had; Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam, Fire Emblem Fates, Yo-Kai Watch, Tri Force Heroes, Hyrule Warriors Legends and even Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer all look like a lot of fun.
That said, a little piece of my soul died with the revelation of Metroid Prime: Federation Force. Next Level Games are solid developers, but it's been a long time since I was this crushed by a new game reveal.
@BLPs
Ha ha, at least Destiny was showing new stuff. Xenoblade was basically saying "yeah, still exists."
You know what's even more pathetic? Nintendolife spent the past week writing articles about "franchises we would like to see at E3 and why they should (and some will) be there". None showed up. But the guys believed it so hard it sounded like Nintendo we all know finally woke up and decided to hear what players want. Like beating a dead horse.
I don't have enough hands to facepalm properly.
Not a lot of companies brought their A game to e3 this year, but most at least had some major announcements. Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft though are held in different regard though since they are major console publishers who have far more at stake. That means even more so for Nintendo who is in the worst position overall. They needed a strong performance to help keep buzz of the U alive especially with a lack of titles on the horizon. Sony announced sequels to major franchises, Microsoft had their big announcements, meanwhile Nintendo spent the show going over the same stuff we've been seeing for months. They keep mentioning Mario's 30th anniversary like its going to be a huge event yet all they do is breath Mario Maker down people's necks. They showed off Starfox to start and it felt like the show ended there. The new announcements were mainly niche multiplayer titles and 3ds stuff. Metroid Federations looked to be a game that just borrows the name and could of been called anything else. Mario Party 10 hasn't been a big success, so its hard to imagine an Animal Crossing iteration that uses Amiibo that most people can't get ahold of being anything more grand. They spent 30 minutes talking about useless crap rather than fleshing these titles out to make them look more appealing. Zelda U gets no love during a stage they need people to maintain excitement for it even if its due out next year. This was just a business as usual Nintendo Direct with far more useless filler. No wonder Iwata ditched it. Reggie said transform was the company theme this year, and it felt like a continual transformation of a company who just doesn't care anymore.
@Quorthon I get the same impression, but I'm still worried as we had a similar run up to the Wii U albeit later in Wii's lifespan but even though, Nintendo still wasn't ready and to this day still doesn't have a great or big first party line up. Yes Mario Kart and Smashbros are fantastic but for me Mario 3d World was fun if not on the level of a Mario 64 or galaxy and we still await it's Zelda or a sniff of a Metroid.
I hope they have learnt their lessons for the NX and have games ready for it, after all most of us buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games. Also please don't make me buy a million different types of controller and if I never see another wii remote I'll be a very happy gamer
As I said elsewhere: their biggest mistake was not showing Zelda U, IMO. That, and not securing Shenmue 3 as an exclusive. They would have won E3 AND the internet just with that one, probably.
@BLPs Sorry to hear that,hope you feel better.
Welcome to negative town
@Jellitoe No kidding. I'm in no rush to buy a new console and I already have a Wii U, but Nintendo really fumbled the ball this time.
There is a reason why the Wii U is struggling so badly. I don't know if I'll get a PS4 or Xbox One in the future, but one thing is for sure.
Nintendo is not making me want to go and buy the NX or any other new hardware that they are working on.
Sony and Microsoft for all of their faults tend to have a pulse on what gamers want. Nintendo just looks like an out of touch company getting by on their past.
Even Sega at their worst was not this badly out of touch. I... I just don't get it anymore.... Is this really the same company that sold the NES and SNES?
What happened?
@Caryslan It happened that they think they are still trying to sell NES and SNES.....
Yup, Nintendo's E3 wasn't that great. It was just meh.
Dreadful for Wii U owners, after this generation is over I'm done with Nintendo
@Jellitoe
"When I get home today, my son is going to to ask how was the Nintendo E3, and I will hold him by the shoulders and and let him know, that everything will be alright, there will be better days, as soon as I can afford a PS4."
LOL! That was a good one. You have given me the most laughter out of this terrible day.
It wasn't terrible, but it definitely was lackluster. sigh
@Quorthon You're being extremely optimistic. It's far more likely that Nintendo is doing nothing right now, or working on mobile games. Again, all of the major games for the DS at the end of it's lifespan were externally developed, barring Kirby Mass Attack. That would suggest that they were hard at work on 3DS games. They proved that they weren't.
They've already proven that they can work on absolutely nothing, or take an extremely slow approach. The same pattern can happen here. The evidence may point to their resources being on NX games, but that doesn't mean they're working hard on them for 2016, or even 2017 for that matter.
It's entirely possible that NX releases in 2017 while the Wii U gets nothing other than a few small games and Smash DLC. Or the NX launches in 2016 and has little to no games other than Mario and a Zelda U port until 2017/2018.
Also, the Twilight Princess approach won't work again. People weren't happy with having cross gen games for the PS4/XB1. They won't be so accepting of a cross-gen Zelda, especially when they could just pick up a Wii U for cheap and play it. If they are, then those people are highly hypocritical because they are partaking in a "it's ok because it's Nintendo" thing after lashing out at others for that.
The Smash presentation and Mario Maker at NWC were singlehandedly better than the Digital Event. At least Nintendo provided me hype there.
Future looks bleak for Nintendo. I am very curious what the investors have to say about this fiasco! i think Nintendo CEO's have a lot to worry about the coming months!
I guess not even fanboys will dare argue that Wii U isn't dead now... only two new games has been announced for Wii U in all of E3... Mario Tennis and Just Dance 2016
Nintendo completely crapped the bed this year. Not sure what they were thinking. This was their worst E3 since the Wii Music fiasco.
I mean, I'd take Mario Golf over Mario Tennis any day of the week. Console tennis got tiring on the Gamecube—the race to see who could get a powerup first. Ah well. There's still plenty to play, especially on the DS.
All this talk of transformation. The sly mentions of the NX and mobile platforms. Focus on amiibo. it's clear the Wii U is entering its last full year of support and that the games announced were the least important part of this Digital Event
@Cyberbotv2 exactly! Whether the wii u is a success or not is now irrelevant. Nintendo needed to keep supporting it so they do not tarnish their brand but that's just what they did. The PS3 had a terrible launch but they addressed the backlash and sucked it up and saved their brand and turned it around. Nintendo has burned their die hard fans time and time again.
I did not like this ND very much at all. Most of the games that I have any passing interest in were already known about. The only exception is the Zelda Triforce Heroes (I really think they should re-release the Gamecube 4-Swords on 3DS...)
Should we start a poll on "what was the worst / most disappointing part of the ND?"
For me it would be the end. I kept thinking that Reggie must have saved a good game for last, perhaps a new 3D Mario. But no. Just a bunch of people playing Mario tunes. 4 minutes of my life that I will never get back. Go away Reggie and come back when you've got some new fun games for my Wii U.
I loved the Muppets. I was disappointed that LoZ Wii U wasn't mentioned...
However, it would have completely overshadowed Super Mario Maker, or Star Fox: Zero.
-I'm not sure why the treehouse is always refers to "64" as the original Star Fox...
-Before E3, there were a bunch of people ranting and raving about how much they wanted Metroid Prime.
@IceClimbers Agreed. Even though Microsoft didn't have anything mind-blowing, they did a good job of filling their release calendar with exclusives. Sony has most of their games coming next year with not a lot coming out this year. Nintendo actually has quite a few games for the Wii U coming this year, but next year is pretty vacant, which would have been a good place to release some big games people were hoping for (Metroid, 3D Mario, F Zero).
Hated it with a passion. We've been hearing about Mario Maker, Yoshi, and Xenoblade for over a year - two years in the case of Xenoblade - so they're a big disregard. Mario Tennis? Casual bait. Animal Crossing amiibo whatever? What an insult to people who dearly wanted a dedicated Animal Crossing for Wii U.
Speaking of insults, I can't think of a bigger one in recent years than whatever that Metroid 3DS game is supposed to be. And it actually has the METROID PRIME moniker attached to it to make it worse.
Star Fox looks like everything I thought it would be: a disappointment. On a rail and completely predicated on gyroscope controls. So little of what was shown during the Treehouse was free roam controls. The game looks like a chore.
The only game announced that looks halfway decent is the Mario X Paper Mario crossover.
This E3 just REEKS of Nintendo finally declaring the Wii U a failure and basically tipping their cards that they're flushing that turd in favor of NX. I cannot believe the term 'NX' was even uttered during the Direct whereas there was no mention of The Legend of Zelda on Wii U when a year ago it was the sure fire highlight of Nintendo's planned 2015.
I was in denial a few months ago, but I'm sure now. NX is coming next year, not 2017. The Wii U is Nintendo's Sega Saturn and the next Legend of Zelda will get the Twilight Princess treatment. It'll still release on Wii U, but it will be ported to be a launch title for NX - the same way TP was for Wii. Mark it down.
Nintendo is just setting us up for the mobile gaming apps that NX will bring and pumping us with more plastic figurines.
@TheHumbleFellow Well, if it had truly wowed then it would have shut everyone up. I think it's safe to say it isn't going to persuade anyone to get a Wii U over another console.
Really disappointed. 3DS will be okay but the WiiU looks dead.
I'm really happy...well, a new Wii U game and a small peek at Zelda would have been nice.
But 3DS got good stuff. Zelda 3 Swords got me screaming, and I have been dreaming about a game like that Federation thing. Well, it looked a bit repetitive and I don't like area defence games, but it's fantastic to see two new co-op games in one presentation, and perhaps it still has time to get some more meat around it's bones.
One thing is making me sad though; I don't have time to play all the games, that I want.
Terrible.
Xenoblade is the only good thing.
Edit: Forgot Fire Emblem
Still incredibly bad.
Oh yeah, and the Star Fox makes my summer a long torture, and I wish that autumn would come sooner.
I wasn't completely happy with the way things turned out at this E3, but I don't think people should jump on the Wii U is dead now boat. If you look more into the content that is being released on the 3DS, this looks to be leading the direction for what content will be released for Wii U/NX in the future. That would be dedicating projects with multiplayer that is to Nintendo's standard for their cherished IPs. I'm not surprised we haven't gotten a new Metroid in a while for home console, I wouldn't want one unless they could provide the multiplayer experience that was in Hunters, so I don't expect that to come any time soon. Also, it didn't help that Nintendo revealed half of their projects up to a year prior, tends to make the masses expect the same amount of surprises even with all the content. I'm looking forward to Star Fox, and hopefully getting that multiplayer aspect from 64 back again, and with all these projects slated for this year, half of the Nintendo IPs are already taken care of, so next E3 will have some good ones that haven't been touched in a while.
This year's E3 was AWFUL. I expected so much more. Perhaps a Animal Crossing title for Wii U? When they showed the Animal Crossing amiibo being scanned, I jumped out of my seat and screamed. And then... the next scene showed... Mario Party?? WHAT THE!!! I'm beyond disappointed. I also wanted to see a trailer of the upcoming Zelda game. But... nope. Oh, and what about Pokémon Z? I've been waiting for, what seems like forever for a new Pokémon game. I love Nintendo, I really do. But this presentation was just lazy and repetitive.
Well honestly I wasn't blown out my pants and really had to take a seat back and analyze everything before I made a judgement. I think that what Nintendo does well is concentrates on games that are being released in the near future, but I still feel they need to hype what is next in store as well. One thing that made me happy is that they are still pushing the 3DS, and that makes me happy that the new 3DS I just bought won't go to waste, they are focusing on more multiplayer games on the 3DS as well which is cool. I loved 4 swords and looking forward to more multiplayer Zelda. Game wise for the WiiU I am happy because I just got splatoon, there's more reasons then ever to enjoy smash, can't wait for tourneys. I like seeing the collab with platinum for star fox and absolutely adore Mario Maker. But I do def think that Nintendo would have benefited from a HUGE announcement ala Zelda WiiU or whatever Retro is working on. They really needed to talk about Zelda more!
I was very disappointed with the event overall but by now I'm used to being disappointed by Nintendo.
Was I the only one who enjoyed the show and wasn't disappointed!? I really can't see how "horrible" it went down as you all say and no, I'm not trolling or anything. I'm pretty much honest at this point.
But there is something else that wonders me; Why are you still here? Why are you not selling your Wii U and 3DS and go over to Sony and Microsoft if you all are so disappointed by Nintendo? Wouldn't that be the next logical step?
To me, Sony couldn't convince me with their games, because they had no appeal to me whatsoever, not even Uncharted 4, which was actually one reason to possibly buy a PS4 slim... but now, this bubble is burst as well.
For me, and this might sound weird for some of you maybe, Nintendo is the only developer I still like. I can imagine that this bothers some of you and other can maybe not understand why, but it is the truth. The PS3 had a lot of titles I liked, but the PS4... none.
Now, you can call me whatever you like, down-vote or hate me for liking Nintendo, but I can't change my feelings or likes. Maybe my likes are different that yours about games, but I won't and will not follow the herd or change my mind just because some people say so. That wouldn't be me anymore.
So if you guys hate Nintendo for this, that is your decision and I won't try to change you. But the question stays... why are you still here if Nintendo disappointed you so much?
There were many issues with this year's e3, many highlighted above, but for me the biggest one was that more than half of the Wii U reveals were games we already knew about - and that was very disappointing.
I love Nintendo for doing things their own way (great puppets!) but they really need to start listening to their fans. Look at the other CEOs at E3 saying (rather nauseatingly) "we listen to you and thanks for your feedback, etc, etc" but at least Phil Spector has kept Xbox in the game by actually listening. It feels like Nintendo don't listen. e.g. The 'hardcore' want a new HD Metroid and your platform is failing. Do the math! Fine, concentrate on releases for this year but you have to build some buzz and on that front this was a massive missed opportunity. Sony's show was a lot of distant promises but they built some buzz. I got halfway through this presentation and started thinking about PS4. That's not a good sign.
@Vineleaf Maybe it's just all a sick joke. Maybe it's just a mode for Animal Crossing Wii U. Maybe it's...ugh...forget it...
Wow, so many assumptions. "Nintendo is dead" and "Nintendo's future is bleak" are not statements that anyone should be saying based off of a "here are SOME game coming out this year" type of presentation.
Seriously, I'm not impressed by some of the games, but I doubt Nintendo's future is sealed because they've chosen to make a party game out of Animal Crossing. It'll just be a "meh" game. So what.
@Yorumi and a more objective fact: When in a e3 (biggest videogame conf of the planet) you got only 3 NEW games announced for a platform Mario Tennis, Just Dance 2016 and whatever AC is, considering your chronical lack of games, there is something wrong... very wrong
Only 2% thought it was awesome? I will admit I didn't care about the Fire Emblem, Animal Crossing, And that Japanese-speaking game in the middle, but I still thought it was amazing overall.
Lol: Someone must make a montage (maybe they did already) with the puppets walking while you hear SHAME, SHAME, SHAME (Cersei's walk of shame)!
Either way, the most pleasant surprise of the entire E3 Nintendo-wise, was the coming of the first Earthbound to the west!
And everybody who says Nintendo needs good games or they are doomed, that's not the case anymore! They go mobile, releasing free-to-play (with microtransactions) Pokemon nonsense for eternity. And earning LOTS of money in the process! How the mighty have fallen...
"I love Nintendo for doing things their own way (great puppets!)"
The Miyamoto-one was a bit scary though. But overall a fun and original idea.
"I am very curious what the investors have to say about this fiasco!"
They will cheer, because Nintendo finally goes mobile. Money, money, money, that's all that matters!
Maybe they'll unveil new games later on in the week? rip wii u hype train, 2013-2015
Nintendo still makes great games, and without a doubt everything shown here will be fun.
They just have a bad way of presenting it when it counts.
Rip wii u! Let's just hope NX isn't the last Nintendo console ever!
Rip wii u! Let's just hope NX isn't the last Nintendo console ever!
@Yorumi I'd say that less than 2% would buy an Xbone,including me if I could buy another console.This E3 did make me regret my Wii U purchase for the first time though.I have calmed down a little bit.I realized that there are good Wii U games coming now,but not enough for me to recommend anyone but hard core Nintendo fans to purchase it.The 3DS did well though.I do recommend people to buy a New Nintendo 3DS XL.My plan for next generation is to wait for a year and buy their next handheld ,then wait even longer to buy the next Nintendo console.
@foobarbaz There was just an article saying that Zelda Wii U will stay on Wii U.
@SnuggleMon We're still here because, I assume, we love Nintendo and are emotionally and financially invested in their platforms. All we ask is that they make good on that investment and today's presentation felt like Nintendo is ready to move on from Wii U already which is a bit of a slap in the face. Sadly, I agree with a comment above; today only made me think twice about buying into NX.
I'll keep the Wii U and download games on sale - and it'll join my Dreamcast as a beautiful child.
Was I the only one who liked the new metroid game? I mean, calling it metroid was a horrhorrible call, since like nothing about it revolves around Samus aron, but I loved the idea of a metroid multiplayer. I know I'm probably going to get alot of hate for this post, but In all the metroid games, I felt really lonely, and this changes it dramaticly. Does anyone else feel that way?
I feel genuinely hurt! I've loved this company since I was a child. I can not believe what is happening. As far as I'm concerned Nintendo have one last chance with me. Magical mystery tour it up and I'll never buy Nintendo again.
@BLPs Yeah, was that Ubisoft? At least they made a joke about it. The men in suits were nauseating in their effusiveness. But after today, man, I wish Nintendo would at least SAY they're listening.
All of this suffering inspired me to pick the 10 best/worst reactions to Nintendo's E3 Digital Event and post them on RandomNerds.com: http://rndnerds.com/1IjuDDw
Shout out to @Peach64, @jakysnakydx, @Atlantidas, @Wouwter, @ericwithcheese2, @Einherjar, @OneBagTravel, @BXXL, @Sir_JBizzle, and @Kaze_Memaryu
"But after today, man, I wish Nintendo would at least SAY they're listening"
The time of listening is absolutely over! They really need to bring the stuff that we want!! You can't please everyone, I know. But the way they are doing now is just silly.
@arnoldlayne83 @Yorumi
I feel like I saw something completely different that all of you. Is my taste for video games so horrible? I know that I repeat myself like a broken record when it comes about this, but I never gave a damn about graphics. I guess this is no longer something I can enjoy with so much negativity around me.
@Boxmonkey
It has nothing to do with loyalty that someone likes a game, which is not as powerful as maybe other games. This is call 'having a different taste', nothing else and no, Nintendo is not doom as you like to display so well. There is always a way to solve a problem, whether you believe this or not. However, it is sad, that you have to use insults to manifest your reasons. That makes you very believable. Not everyone like the same, we are different, but to attack those only to convince them that their are wrong, is just pitiful.
@Mario_Fart
I really can't believe this after all those negative comments and hate paroles. Sure, as I said above to @Boxmonkey, not everyone like the same as others and that is okay, but to get so aggressively really scares me to be honest and people can call a wuss, I don't care. However, it worries me that people getting so mad about video games, so insanely angry that I see them with forks and torches burning down the Nintendo HQ for not getting what they want. Maybe it takes not much to make me happy, but then again, is that something bad?
While it wasn't the best, I think people are forgetting that we don't just rely on E3 anymore for new reveals.
We've been getting Nintendo Directs for almost like two years now. Just because it's E3 season doesn't mean anything and everything worth announcing is going to be shown today. Just a thought.
Side note: Star Fox looks great and I thought the puppet idea was really charming and cool.
@Henmii I know, right? Apparently Iwata has been on Twitter to respond to the negative feedback, saying the company "will work to better meet your expectations." Dude, how much time do you need?
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/06/16/e3-2015-iwata-wants-you-to-know-nintendo-takes-your-opinions-seriously?utm_source=IGN%20hub%20page&utm_medium=IGN%20(front%20page)&utm_content=17&utm_campaign=Blogroll
Super surprised how many people seem disappointed. The puppets were amazing, and there was a lot of cool stuff.
The only thing else I would have wanted was a combo disc of mario sunshine and luigi's mansion and a proper paper mario 3.
It wasn't bad, just disappointing.
Woww, over 463 comments of hate! Well, I agree, terrible show. WiiU is dead from May 2016, NX will be E3 showing in June 2016. And as I have been saying since the delayed Zelda U. It will be made for the NX and will NOT come to the WiiU at all for Christmas latch 2016. They would be stupid to do a release of it on the WiiU and NX cause no one will buy the NX at launch then.
Mario tennis? Give me a break. That should be on a sports mix disc now a days.
All pants. Think I'll be giving the NX a year or two before I decide if I get whatever it is as Nintendo are CLEARLY out of touch with what we want.
Thank God I have a ps4 and xbone.
I can't wait to read an editorial for these polls. I sure hope that Nintendo's poor showing is because they are hard at work on the NX.
@Onion851 Great, I'll go buy a puppet and entertain myself with that '-)
C'mon guys, Nintendo is far from dead. The Wii U, yes, probably, but not Nintendo.
If they are going to stay in the home console business they need to seriously deliver with the NX. They know it, we know it, everyone knows it.
Another console that performs like the Wii U and they are definitely pretty much a hand held, mobile phone gaming company going forward.
They are deluded fanboys that to this day think the Wii U will sell 20m... hell it would be lucky to get 12m. At 25K a week globally and absolutely no software to move consoles, that is even harder now after this E3 which is looking to pretty much to confirm the eminent arrival of the NX.
I saw a post on reddit that had the perfect summary of the event. Here is what he posted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhe3vSe-mmw
@KARNOVsSTACHE That's exactly what I did, I got really excited and then when I realised it was a board game I was gutted!
@BLPs Fun indeed. If this goes on, you can't call yourself a fan of Nintendo in public without getting stoned to death. You know, there was not one game I bought for a Nintendo console that disappoint me unlike some on the Xbox 360 or PS1 and PS2.
The 3DS is amazing! A new Zelda and Metroid is everything I wanted!
Disappointment of the year. Felt more like a standard Nintendo Direct than a freakin' e3 presentation.
Nintendo is gonna have a pick your poison decision soon: release Zelda U on both Wii U and NX, resulting in the game not being a reason to buy the system, or making it NX only, resulting in Wii U owners being royally pissed.
Interesting that they release a new 3ds but yet no new content in plans that would really maximise it , what was the point? also i mean if there is any time to show what the future holds this is it , nintendo straight dumped any hype for the rest of the year, it also shows that nintendo are clearly far behind the times and proves why n was dumped by most third party devs , if i was nintendo i would announce a new console and soon, why wait and waste money they cant afford to lose because nobody is going to rush out and get the wiiu now and the 3ds game releases are so slow most lose hype and interest.
@BLPs - "sensor bar cable"
Use the cable from the WiiChat mic, that doesn't serve any purpose anymore. The police wouldn't even know what the murder weapon was when they found it.
Best E3 yet.
everybody forgot to vote option one on the last poll.
I'll happly take this E3 over sony basicly being like "you want x game? GOGOGO Kickstart it" or MS being like "360 support, coming but it will be limited to whateve games we feel like work"
@bofis
Indeed.
Can't help but feel sorry for those who only have Nintendo wii u systems. You're in for quite the dry season. This is why I say the wii u should be a secondary console for someone.
@Yorumi Ever thought that people buy Amiibos and other "toy to life" miniatures because they are collectors and like to have them on the shelf? For me, this a great treasure, but again, I can only speak for myself, not for anyone else.
About those games you mentioned: Star Ocean 4, Final Fantasy 7 remake, KH3, Horizon, No Man's Sky, Fallout 4, Star Wars Battlefront... I watched the trailers and gameplay videos but none of them were my cup of tea.
Star Ocean 4 - never interested me.
Final Fantasy 7 remake - I played the original, why playing it again?
Kingdom Hearts 3 - I tried the series, had no appeal to me, even though I am a Disney fan.
Horizon - It looks like Monster Hunter and I dislike this the Monster Hunter games.
No Man's Sky - Has no appeal to me.
Fallout 4 - I dislike FPS, their boring to me.
Star Wars Battlefront - Not a fan of it.
"...beloved franchises or unique games..."
I see nothing unique in one of those games you mentioned. They are all dull and feature nothing special, that would convince me to buy a PS4 or Xbox One. But this is me, if you like this, more power to you.
@Skullcruncher Speak for yourself and not for others. My Wii U is more active than my PS3 and seriously... dry season? I don't need a new game for each month of the year.
Loved the puppet stuff but boy what a let down for the Wii U! This digital event won't motivate people to buy the console. Yes I want Star Fox and Mario Maker but I knew that before this presentation, I will get Woolly World when its cheap. Really feel Nintendo has let Wii U owners down this year AC Amiibo festival looks to almost a skin laid over Mario Party which is only meant to shift amiibo. Mario Tennis makes no sense its already on the 3DS Mario Strikers would have been a much better choice. Adding Amiibo to Skylanders could be a smart move but people are not going to buy a Wii U just to use them in that game.
What has been going on at Nintendo last year they were possibly the star of the show this year the dud. Plus why waste time with a developers story on Wooly World when they did that last year, just lazy Nintendo
I love Nintendo games but I want my hour back! Boo-urns!!!!
I'm glad you asked. Here's what I thought of Nintendo's Digital Event:
THIS WAS BASICALLY THE MOST DISAPPOINTING AND UNEXCITING NINTENDO PRESENTATION/DIGITAL-EVENT AT E3 EVER...EVER!
Dear Iwata,
You cannot pull the wool over my eyes with a bunch of utter filler sh*t thrown together by D teams; so don't patronise/insult me by wasting my time with muppets, retreading footage of games I've already seen a bunch of times, a collection of obviously hastily thrown together filler crap with big franchise names slapped onto it, and trying to press my nostalgia button with ill-conceived trite like people playing the Mario theme or whatever.
Sincerely,
Kirk Douglas Johnston.
The Star Fox game was also a major disappointment. It's exactly the Star Fox game I feared Nintendo might make and the one that I never wanted—basically a re-skinned N64 looking game with some of the crappier elements from Star Fox 2 added in. It doesn't deliver on the Star Fox game I was hoping for in the slightest. It's not visually striking or technically impressive in the slightest, whereas the original absolutely was for its time. It adds in the all-range mode crap, which I've never liked and certainly not the way Nintendo has done it. It looks sightly clunky and fiddly, which the original absolutely was not. It lacks any kind of genuine epicness. There's zero online multiplayer and even though that's not a big deal to me personally I still think the game should have had a proper online multiplayer mode. I want basically Star Wars in the from of a shooter video game but just with Nintendo characters—instead I feel like I'm getting just a generic unimpressive shooter with a couple of forced gimmicks. Not a single part of the game genuinely stands out or impresses in any meaningful way. Total disappointment.
Nintendo should be ashamed at that Metroid 3DS game announcement, and that Animal Crossing abomination. Seriously? Just make a legit game instead of these mini-games.
I said this in another topic, but let me ask it here. Do people really see this E3 as being worse than the 2008 Wii Music fiasco? I enjoyed the presentation, and sure not everything revealed was amazing, but come on people, look at the big picture! This is hardly the worst E3 presentation from Nintendo.
Don't we still have another day? what I mean they have tomorrow as well to announce stuff, it'll be Okay I guess as Nintendo do the Directs I love them but E3 was supposed to be the show case for them to show new important stuff. I am looking forward to Super Mario Maker but I still think that they can or should have a very special anniversary title coming along. In some ways Nintendo are danmed if they do and danmed if they don't. I reckon Nintendo will do a special direct nearer the time to celebrate all things Super Mario....
@Samuel-Flutter Yup.
I mean if someone goes and counts games shown or whatever then technically it may not be worst (I dunno)—it's def bottom 3 without any shadow of a doubt—but to me it definitely felt like the least impressive, most boring and genuinely disappointing Nintendo E3 ever. It literally left me cold, whereas 2008 just left me disappointed.
Anyone claiming this was the worst E3 for Nintendo ever, I point to you E3 2008. THAT was bad. While this one was by no means good, I got what I wanted, simply because I never set expectations for anything too high. Although, I will admit that AC Wii U announcement was pretty horrendous, and I'll gladly save my bells for another game, namely SF0, which was way better than most people here are acting like it was.
Not dissapointed. There's a new Starfox, a new Paper/Mario & Luigi, a cool new Zelda multiplayer (Four Swords was awesome, are you kidding? I can't wait to play this with a friend), and we finally have solid evidence of the elusive ShinMegami/Emblem game being in the works. All great stuff.
And no need to worry, Zelda(WiiU) is still coming, they don't have to keep repeating themselves.
But....Metroid....hmph....it seems that Nintendo likes to innovate, and I get that (that's even going back to NES and R.O.B. days). So...the Other:M was a stinker...and they've been shying away from making another Metroid game ever since. Maybe innovation isn't the answer. Maybe they should stick with the 'Tried and True' formulas with this one. Same thing goes for F-Zero. C'mon, Nintendo, don't be shy! You know those games were awesome back in the day, you can do it!...again.
@TheHumbleFellow Don't you even understand that this is simply not the Star Fox game many of us wanted. I mean can't you even see it with your own eyes. If this were on Xbox One or PS4, especially if were basically treated like the biggest reveal of their presentations, it would be literally laughed off the stage. Well, actually; people would be so utterly shocked that I imagine there would just be pure silence. Nintendo only got away with this because it was for the underpowered Wii U and because Wii U owners are so desperate for both a new Star Fox game and indeed any new Wii U game announcements that clearly they'll basically settle for anything at this point. It's not totally crap but if we're being truly honest here, it's a bit of a turd and absolutely nowhere near the Star Fox it could and indeed should have been.
@BLPs - Dylan can keep you company.
@Mario_Fart,
Iwata "please undastand" again?
@Kirk I dunno I just remember that E3 was cringe inducing. I couldn't believe what I had just witnessed. I just felt embarrassed for Nintendo.
@Takatomon Actually, it was hugely disappointing for this Star Fox fan.
@Samuel-Flutter Oh it was cringe, but this E3 literally left me cold. It wasn't just bad, it was kinda soul-destroyingly bad.
@MitchVogel do you think there's a risk that nintendo will burn out there fans with the abandonment of software for their current consoles the same way sega angered there's by constantly abandoning hardware?.
@FlaygletheBagel
I personally still don't think NX will be released until 2017 , although I can understand why people think it might be on the shelves before then. This E3 has been pretty meh overall for me. From a Nintendo point of view , the Digital Event set off well with Starfox , muppets and Zelda 3DS, but then meandered to a finish. The pacing was off. I do think Super Mario Maker and a suitable price cut could shift a few consoles , but they should have had less developer chat and shown trailers for Devils Third and Fatal Frame instead. The Shin Megami trailer didn't have full subtitles. The Skylanders and Amiibo stuff should have been swapped with the Smash Bros and Nindie Demo announcement from before E3. Xenoblade still looks great to me , but that Animal Party Crossing Mash Up Thingy , not sure. The 3DS fared a lot better in my opinion. I think people are disappointed because there wasn't many new Wii U games shown , and the Metroid game wasn't from Retro and on Wii U ; but this is not the worst E3 Nintendo's ever had. If anything they played it too safe overall. Still hoping for a surprise or two during the next few days.
@Will-75 Yup, agree. Super Mario Maker looks like a really fun game in its own right but as basically Nintendo's only Mario 30th anniversary thing, its very underwhelming. Christ, Microsoft gave gamers 30 years worth of classic Rare games in one glorious bundle, 30 great past Rare games for just $30, just to celebrate Rare's 30th birthday. Nintendo fell far short of that for its most important, biggest selling and most beloved mascot. I was genuinely hoping Nintendo might have a new Super Mario World type thing, possible a 2.5D version, or all new 3D Mario game for Mario's 30th. So disappointed. Microsoft knocked that one out the part imo, whereas Nintendo dropped the ball big time.
After thinking some more about this digital event, I'm still disappointed but I have a feeling Nintendo will rush out a direct within the next month to try and put right the wrongs of this one. Im not saying it will have major news like a Zelda U release date but maybe some more footage and DLC announcements or Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon etc.
I just cant see how anyone at Nintendo could have thought this was a good digital event to show as a normal direct it would have been poor at E3 its unacceptable, know were near enough games, to much time on developers stories and games we already knew about!
That was incredibly awful. Anyone that said they loved it are seriously lying to themselves and all of us.
I thought the Animal Crossing board game looked pretty distinct from Mario Party but wasn't crazy about it. SMTxFE looks really cool but I can't tell what the gameplay will be like. Metroid FF looks like a lot of fun, just not the Metroid game anyone really was hoping for.
@InterwebUser Or they're just lost in some fantasy land or something
I feel a bit betrayed, they seem to be ditching the Wii U after Zelda, and without a 3d Mario or proper Metroid in sight. And certainly not a peep about my beloved F-zero
Bethesda's and EA's were better.
I don't think it was awful, per say, it was just disappointing. I mean, c'mon. Last year we had Smash Bros, Splatoon, and amiibo. Did we honestly expect this year to top that? Loved the puppets, btw.
Although, yeah.... I'll admit, the Animal Crossing party game was a punch in the gut.
If they play catch up this summer with proper titles in their best series, that would be great, but I kinda doubt it...
The biggest issue is: they COULD'VE topped last year. Easily! A new 3D mario, a proper Metroid in 2D or Prime, some Zelda info, and an F-zero remake/GX re-release to make this old fan happy would've destroyed the competetion. But instead we got half-baked ideas and Mario Maker.
@RandomNerds Awww I got a mention! I didn't think my comment was overly negative. I was trying to add a little levity to the comments section.
Haven't seen the presentation, but have seen what was announced.
1. I believe Nintendo said this was going to be focused on games coming out the rest of 2015, so I'm not surprised that the event was a letdown for most people.
2. That said, the "unannounced games" they kept pumping over the last few months were underwhelming to say the least. Mario Tennis, and 2 Amiibo games. Come on.
3. I've said this before but we really underestimated just how unprepared Nintendo was to make the jump to HD.
4. Another thing that has been said before: Nintendo doesn't really care about the press conference portion of E3. If they are going to take that approach, they need to have more directs and make sure to have new footage, news, etc in these directs.
5. The lack of any big announcements has me wondering if everything but Zelda is being pushed to the NX? Are the games we expected/hoped for(next Metroid, whatever Retro is working on, next 3D Mario, etc) already pushed to the NX and being developed for that system? What exactly is this mysterious device? Do they actually believe they can support 3 different consoles when they've had so much trouble getting games onto 2 consoles and have the bare minimum as far as 3rd party support?
I think literally everyone that's upset needs to chill out.
We ARE getting Directs in the future that will announce more Wii U games. It's not like this is the only announcement of games Nintendo has.
Also, a lot of people are complaining about stuff that we didn't hear much about. Like, at all. We saw FOOTAGE from Metroid Prime Federation Force and everyone wrote it off.
You see, this is why I go to E3 with no expectations. I see what I see and I'm surprised by the surprises. You all apparently go into E3s and Directs expecting Metroid Prime, Super Mario Galaxy 3, Zelda U, Pikmin 4, New IPs 1-6, Announcement for Splatoon 2, all third parties returning on their knees, Final Fantasy exclusivity, new hardware, every game from Japan localized, Mother 4 (3 bundled in), New IPs 7-10, and a patch for analog triggers.
If you set the bar to impossibly high standards, you'll always be disappointed. Always. And you guys ALWAYS are.
Geez.
8/10. Good showing. Still buying a PS4 at some point though because I refuse to miss out on Horizon: Zero Dawn.
@TheHumbleFellow Star Fox isn't the problem. The problem is Star Fox is basically the ONLY NEW game announced that wasn't mediocre. That's what I and lots of other people think, anyway.
@Quorthon @Yorumi On the bright side, Microsoft solved an issue that kept coming up when discussing the NX - backwards compatibility. We kept saying Nintendo would have to ditch it because they'd have to switch to x86 architecture to get 3rd party support. Well, they could just approach backwards compatibility the way Microsoft is doing now. Unlike Microsoft, who has to deal with 3rd parties possibly not wanting to partake in it to sell remasters, Nintendo's the only one who supported the Wii U, so they can ensure backwards compatibility of 99% of the library!
Anyways, what was your favorite game from E3 in general this year? My personal favorite has to be Horizon Zero Dawn. Game looks incredible.
Starfox looks terrible. I had high hopes...argh. I hope the SNES original gets a virtual console release.
I was convinced we were getting AC WiiU. Gutted. Gu-tted.
No mention of the next Pokemon either. I'd have been so excited to see a new Kid Ucarus, Wave Race or Golden Sun also.
Anyway, just started a new town in AC:NL, so much do to in Splatoon and Mario Kart 8. And, I really should get around to finnishing Mass Effect, Uncharted and Baldurs Gate. It's not like I'm stuck for games
@kyuubikid213 I would love to agree with you but the fact is that Nintendo had to follow Microsoft and Sony at E3 and still seem relevant. As you can tell from the feedback online, they failed to excite their own fans, let alone anyone else. Where does that leave Wii U? Maybe they do have some unannounced games up their sleeve for the console but they had all eyes on them today and they blew it. I'll feel better tomorrow after a good night's sleep (dreaming about Star Wars Battlefront probably. Jeez, look at Star Fox compared to Battlefront and weep).
Their most fully realized train wreck yet. Tragic stuff.
@SnuggleMon well the PS3 is now a last gen console and many developers have stopped supporting it. This is probably why you use your wii u more often.
And the wii u line up is looking pretty dry right now, especially when compared to what the competitors have. Which is why I stated if you only have a wii u your gonna be a bit disappointed.
@Mario_Fart
Star Wars: Battlefront, looks beyond amazing. I'm buying a PS4 just for this game. The footage is mind blowing.
"Games we never thought of wanting"? I'm calling false advertisement on that one. There's a reason we never thought of wanting some of these games they announced. Cause WE DON'T WANT an Animal Crossing board game or a half-assed 3DS Metroid Game or a Legend of Zelda: Three Swords that looks boring as hell.
@andyg1971 lol that's awesome and you're absolutely correct! Muppets & morons!!😃
This will not help wii u sales at all!!
@Mario_Fart I'd weep if Star Fox was supposed to compete with Battlefront and if Starfox looked bad. But since neither of those are true, I'll be fine.
As for Nintendo's relevance, it would have been impossible to do without Zelda (which Nintendo already said wasn't going to be shown) especially next to Fallout 4, Uncharted 4, Battlefield, and Halo. Of course, those are all the big guns. I imagine even with Zelda, "relevance" would be a challenge.
I'm satisfied with this Digital Event and I look forward to more information on all of these games in Directs in the future. Anyone who isn't was expecting Nintendo to give them the moon as well as free games for buying the Wii U.
@Fandabidozi Same, see you on Hoth!
@Samuel-Flutter Ok, but they also said they were going to announce games we NEVER THOUGHT OF WANTING. As in a surprise. We didn't get nearly enough surprises to warrant that boast.
Alright, phew... Time for my official rant on this presentation. I apologize in advance for the wall of text and I hope despite my rambling that you might give this a read!
I've been a Nintendo fan ever since I played Super Mario 64 with my younger brothers growing up. I owned an N64, then an SNES, a Gamecube, a Wii, and today a Wii U. So needless to say, I've been around the block with this company and Nintendo has been my absolute favorite brand ever since I was a kid.
But this presentation is the lowest point at which I've ever seen this company.
I thought this presentation was even worse than the Wii Music debacle of 2008. Because at least then, even if they misread the audience that attends E3 and delivered an embarrassing presentation, they had the casual audience to sell that garbage presentation to. But right now their console has pitiful sales and they're in no place to act prideful and exploitative. Yet that's exactly what they looked like during that presentation. Literally every move they made was an arrogant and incorrect one.
Starfox looked average at best. I'm not a graphics-obsessive person, but after seeing a game as beautiful as Mario Kart 8 or Super Smash Bros. running on Wii U, there's literally no excuse for Starfox to look so ugly. The visuals and gameplay are not only nothing new, but to me they looked plastic, sterile, and fake. It was unusually soulless. Ironically I felt it perfectly set the stage for the rest of the presentation.
Then Nintendo made it abundantly clear they have virtually no plans for the Wii U in 2015 and 2016 beyond what we already know about. They practically revealed nothing. This doesn't really come as any surprise to me though - it makes sense that they're shifting their development teams to the next console, and that we won't see anything of consequence until next year's E3. But if that were the case, and they really had barely anything to show, why did they even show up at E3 and do a Digital Event at all? Simply by being at E3, Nintendo created the expectation of giving us something bigger and didn't deliver. It looks especially bad alongside conferences like MS's and Sony's, which revealed a significant number of amazing looking games.
But the worst, the worst part of this conference were the games they did show for Wii U and 3DS, and moreover, what those games communicated about Nintendo in general. Fans have been pleading for a new Metroid, a new Animal Crossing, a new 3D Mario, and so forth. So instead, Nintendo gave people (1) Animal Crossing X Mario Party, (2) a shoehorning of Mario into Skylanders, and (3) a Metroid Prime 4-player shooter that doesn't have anything to do with Metroid beside the name and the fact that it's in space. It came across as exploitative, arrogant, and ignorant, as if Nintendo felt they could slap the name of their "sacred IP" onto anything and it would sell like hotcakes. It's almost as if execs sat in a board room and said, "People want Animal Crossing on the Wii U. I know what they'd love! Let's make a Mario Party game and put 'Animal Crossing' in the title!"
Look, I get the reality of the situation. Nintendo wants all their dev resources on the next platform, and because of that, they have to provide games that serve little purpose besides existing as stopgaps. But from an outsider's perspective looking in, it communicates that while Nintendo may be listening to some feedback out there in terms of what franchises people want to see, they're too out of touch to see that they're not delivering anything people want. They communicated a complete disregard for their fans in this presentation.
Lest anyone think I'm jumping the gun on that claim, compare this to the way Microsoft handled their press conference:
It almost seems antagonizing.
And did anyone notice when Reggie was talking to the Skylanders guy and, as if to show off the fact that he's cooperating with a third party studio, he sarcastically said, "So as you go through this collaboration with Nintendo, the company that is very protective of its franchises, that always likes to have total control, what was that like in terms of working with us to bring these fabulous experiences to life?" It was pretentious and it felt like NoA was only cooperating with Skylanders so that they could protect their own ego. They're not cooperating with Activision out of mutual partnership or business flourishing, but rather to patch their own ego and retaliate against criticisms. It looked incredibly insincere and selfish.
Whatever. I'm done with them. This nonsense, the artificial amiibo scarcity, the increasingly sketchy DLC practices, the abysmal Wii U support, the gimmicky consoles, the Youtube Creators Program, the arrogance, the ignorance, the pompous ego. I'm through with it. I went ahead and listed my Wii U for sale on eBay, and I think I'm going to put that money towards an Xbox One instead. And they're going to find it very hard to sell me an NX, or any console in the future.
@TheHumbleFellow The problem is, you're focusing all your arguments on Starfox and nothing else. The fans didn't pester Nintendo about a LoZ: Three Swords, or an Animal Crossing party game or even a new Mario Tennis.
@FlaygletheBagel
clap clap
A rant delivered with a cool head, yet from the heart of a real Nintendo fan. I applaud you, sir. That was fantastic, and blisteringly accurate.
Everyone complains but I'm sure a lot of the games coming will be pretty damn awesome. I am very excited for Mario Tennis, Yoshi's wooly world and Mario and Luigi Paper Jam There are a few other titles that also look promising. I still love you Nintendo.
Nintendo rocked E3 last year and made a company wide attempt to bring great life to the Wii U. After a strong year of sales and improvement, they turn their back on friends and abandoned the Wii U. That entire presentation was about the 3DS and Wii U games we already knew, save some AC party game and Mario Tennis. Last year, Sony and MS were actually giving respect to Nintendo and viewing them as a competitor. It's hard for them to take Nintendo series when this weak slate of games is given and the company is already, within 3 years, moving on to its next console. My PS4 will last half a decade or longer! I've decided that my wallet will do the speaking. I'm tired of complaining, i'm tired of feeling rubbish as a consumer and i'm tired of defending Nintendo as a blind fan boy. I will not be buying most of these games and I certainly wont do it on day 1 to make them feel better. NX? Yeah, right. I love my Wii U and the games so I will keeping that around for a long time. I may consider an NX when they have a big library of games. I certainly wont be helping Nintendo recover profits on day 1 when the next console launches. For shame Nintendo, for shame. Just offering us lameness and asking us to smile.
@IceClimbers
I guess we'll have to disagree on the ZeldaU/NX thing, but not only do I think it'll work, but I think Nintendo fans--more than any other group out there--love to rebuy games or have cross-gen, multi-gen titles, remakes, and re-releases. Twilight Princess Wii destroyed the GC version in sales. This is a gamble that Nintendo, I'm quite confident, will make. You know, if Nintendo has demonstrated one thing over the years, it's that they totally don't know how to read statistics or market economics. Which means they'll look at TP's better Wii sales and all they'll see is "put Zelda on the upstart console=sales."
At any rate, I think this was at the heart of the game's delay from the very beginning. I mean, in addition to the regular usual Nintendo delays.
I see where you were going with the "they're doing nothing" comments now, though, ha ha. At least I think so. I haven't been particularly confident about the launch of the NX as is and.... I just realized they didn't talk about the Club Nintendo replacement stuff AT ALL. What the hell? We've been waiting for that information forever.
Anyway, my biggest E3 draw is not particularly original. Fallout 4 and Horizon: Zero Dawn which looked really, really cool--I just hope they tone down all the chatter from the main character. That was kind of annoying. Oh, and Transformers: Devastation. Ha ha, yes! I'm going to have to pick up that graphic novel collection. Somehow I missed it.
One of the worst E3s in ages and I don't just mean for Nintendo. The NX can't come soon enough.
@kyuubikid213 Obviously this isn't the only tie Nintendo announces games but it's supposed to be the BIGGESST one because it usually is and it is usually hyped to be. People are dissapointed every year but if this many are that's how you know there is a serious problem.
This was a terrible E3 for Nintendo, not 2008 bad but just pacing games shown time wasted on stuff people just didn't want to see. I just felt they got it so very wrong this year which is a shame as 2014 was good.
I originally thought it was good that they had a seperate video for Smash Bros as it freed up the video for other things. Honestly, it would have been so much better if they had just included the Smash stuff in the E3 video as that would have been very exciting. Star Fox is good but needs a lot of work. It moves too slowly. I am already sold on Super Mario Maker. The World Championships did that for me. Reducing Animal Crossing to a board game that is amiibo based? A Metroid game without Samus? That weird Pokemon style game? Mario Tennis, in winter? Nintendo dropped the ball. We will no doubt get Nintendo Directs throughout the year but E3 is a time where they have to bring their A game and they just didn't do it. There are a lot of games in there so it isn't terrible, just massively disappointing.
With the exception of l Paper Jam, the new stuff shown here just wasn't cricket. Not to mention that there was way too much focus on games we already know about.
Son... I am disappoint.
2 most exciting games, Mario Tennis and Star Fox, haven't been improved upon since the N64.
I'd bet a lot of money on Zelda being delayed onto the NX.
Nintendo right now seems indicative of a lot of Japan, have a contempt for a lot of their customers. They are to buy and shut up. The World Championships nonsense represents nicely how they haven't moved on from the booming 90s where the consumer didn't mind so much as they had money in their pocket. These days, you can't afford to be a dick.
@AVahne The third party partnerships are clearly the mii costumes and Ryu in Smash. That's what? Three different parties? Seems legit to me.
@DiscoGentleman : That's what I usually think, but this really sucked. I'm not sad or anything, but I'm definitely not excited. I don't care about any of the new stuff, and only like two of the old things. I never even cared about Star Fox. I'm only glad they announced it because like you said "hysterical babies" begging for it every year.
@PokeTune Really?! I've only had a Wii U for 7 months. Sigh.
@FlaygletheBagel Don't apologise, it's good to vent. You can add their region locking practices to that list though.
@RandomNerds Youre going to hear from my lawyer
You know what, as disappointing as the show was, they did something that most shows didn't do this E3. All of the games Nintendo announced showed gameplay footage. The Sony/Microsoft conferences showed pretty pictures and videos and people lapped it up but showed very little, if anything, of the actual games. People are excited for Dark Souls 3 when they showed a dead knight waking up, that is all. Thank you Nintendo for actually showing how the games run. Just, maybe show games people wanted to see next time.
@Quorthon Oh I agree that they'll go for Zelda being on both Wii U and NX. No doubt about that. Sure, it might work for Nintendo fans, but will it work for other gamers? That's where people might not be as impressed, but it's who they so clearly need.
About them "doing nothing", I suppose I'm being really pessimistic due to the 3DS launch and just general disappointment from the Digital Event. Totally possible that they have stuff ready for launch, and I hope they do. Not just some big hitters, but some of Nintendo's lesser seen franchises as well (Sin & Punishment, F-Zero, etc). Gotta have variety.
Definitely agree with Fallout 4 and Horizon: Zero Dawn. Those look great. ReCore could be interesting, just need to see some gameplay. For Honor and Unravel get honorable mentions from me as well.
So disappointed. Starfox looked generic, no surprise game reveals worth getting excited about, and the new 3DS Metroid looked mediocre at best. I was looking forward to this conference all day. :/
Damnit, Nintendo you needed to bring the big guns and show everyone how awesome the Wii U is, but instead you showed people stuff no one cared about. The only thing that was pretty cool is Starfox,HW3D,LoZTH,M&LPJ,and Mario Maker and the worst part about it is that they had a amazing Smash direct before the digital event, which made you think that they had something big planed but no. They could saved it by showing Zelda U, a new F-Zero, a new 3D Mario,and of course Mother 3.
I was pretty disappointed. While I did like SMT X Fire Emblem, Fire Emblem Fates, Star Fox, Xenoblade Chronicals X, and Yoshi's Wooly World, I knew that all those were coming out. We got almost no announcements of any fresh unheard of games. Star Fox was great and I'm happy with what I saw, overall I'm pretty disappointed.
@kyuubikid213 Okay well first of all, Nintendo doesn't make many new announcements over the course of the year, we maybe get 1 or 2 major game announcements in the middle of the year and a bunch of shovelware, pretty much anything big is usually reserved for E3. So when we get an E3 as underwhelming as this one, it's a sign that the entire year is lacking. And of course people expect big games, you need big games to maintain momentum and keep people's attention. No one's saying we need 50 billion megatons, but they should have at least 1 or 2 per year.
@Yorumi Definitely looking forward to Battlefront. The lack of space battles and Clone Wars era is definitely annoying, but hey, gotta save something for the inevitable sequel, right? I'm a major sucker for Star Wars stuff haha.
@Ibrahim77X Yes but at that E3 there was literally no games we wanted. I'm personally excited about a few of those reveals. Granted there was hardly anything new, but that doesn't stop some people from wanting them.
Every year I expect Nintendo to blow me away at E3 and just because it was a slight breeze doesn't make it worse when there was no wind at all. I can understand the disappointments from people wanting new Animal Crossing and Metroid games, but given Nintendo's current plight did you really expect some grand unveiling? Especially when they said they would focus on the rest of this year.
I think we all need to take a deep breath and calm down. Too much blood has been shed today.
To be honest, I believe this overall E3 performance was to be expected. The capital alliance with DeNA made one of two possibilities the most likely outcome for E3 showings this year: either Nintendo was going to start parting the curtain concealing the results of the back room deals between these two companies this year, or we were going to see a glimpse of the death throes of Nintendo as a relatively independent company with no absolute reliance on the stock and dealings with other companies (beyond hardware suppliers, of course). As we have now seen, the latter was the case.
This has been a long time coming, and the information dealing with Nintendo's future earlier this year pretty much sealed the deal in my mind. Wii U and 3DS may be my last Nintendo consoles at this point... However, I will always be a fond retro gamer for Nintendo, and will continue to enjoy the modding communities and PC-related news with Nintendo.
All good things must come to an end. Nothing lasts forever.
How many of the people defending their E3 presentation are actually going to go out and buy the "Metroid", Zelda 3 Swords, and Animal Crossing Party games? lol
Put your money where your mouth is.
I'm going to be completely honest, I knew this Digital Event was going to be this dissappointing. I have a feeling if Nintendo didn't show so much so early this would have been a hell of a lot better. Everybody was excepting Nintendo to have something big since Nintendo was already getting out some games. It also the fact they was forcing on 2015 and early 2016 games. I feel, you know what, I know Nintendo have some things up there sleves that are probably coming out near mid 2016 or late 2016 that people will lose their crap over. tl;dr, Nintendo doesn't have much lined up for the rest of this year, which we already knew was probably going to be the case, but Nintendo should have at least shown Zelda or at least say something a game they working on that's in alpha.
@OneBagTravel I'll be getting Zelda and probably Animal Crossing since I will be getting the amiibo anyway. "Metroid", I need to see more. It looks more like a sequel to the DS title Hunters.
I love that they showed StarFox Fire Emblem and Xenoblade but none were a surprise. Zelda and Metroid are interesting concepts but they look more like mobile games and or Nintendo Land attractions. Since I play my 3DS on the go, I prefer games that designed to be single player experiences.
I wish ACHHD was implanted into a full blown Animal Crossing game because those are the kinds of things I want in Animal Crossing. I am not happy about the Animal Crossing meets Mario Party thing though. We already have Mario Party and Wii U Party for that.
Paper Mario and Luigi should be avlot of fun but I am hesitant to pick it up after Sticker Star. T
They used up way too much time on FExSMT. We've already seen it and it would have worked well in a standard Nintendo Direct. I honestly wonder how many people will not it though. Nintendo sure is pushing it hard.
I couldn't care less about Skylanders and Mario Tennis.
I am glad to see Hyrule Warriors getting some more love but I want to know how much new content we will see.
Yokai Watch could be fun but it isn't exactly my thing.
I love that they showed StarFox Fire Emblem and Xenoblade but none were a surprise. Zelda and Metroid are interesting concepts but they look more like mobile games and or Nintendo Land attractions. Since I play my 3DS on the go, I prefer games that designed to be single player experiences.
I wish ACHHD was implanted into a full blown Animal Crossing game because those are the kinds of things I want in Animal Crossing. I am not happy about the Animal Crossing meets Mario Party thing though. We already have Mario Party and Wii U Party for that.
Paper Mario and Luigi should be avlot of fun but I am hesitant to pick it up after Sticker Star. T
They used up way too much time on FExSMT. We've already seen it and it would have worked well in a standard Nintendo Direct. I honestly wonder how many people will not it though. Nintendo sure is pushing it hard.
I couldn't care less about Skylanders and Mario Tennis.
I am glad to see Hyrule Warriors getting some more love but I want to know how much new content we will see.
Yokai Watch could be fun but it isn't exactly my thing.
@OneBagTravel I'm going to be buying Zelda and maybe "Metroid". I will never buy the Animal Crossing game because I'm not going to support Nintendo literally doing on disc DLC. They're times I will support Nintendo and I won't
@OneBagTravel
My purchasing decision depends on the information we'll get in future Nintendo Directs. None of the games look bad by any stretch and I'm still appalled by the childishness of some of...those people.
To properly answer your question, I'll probably pass on Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival as I don't always have friends around to play such a game. The Zelda game looks interesting and, so far, I see no reason to NOT buy it. It's still Zelda after all. Stacks are just going to be a new tool to solve puzzles. As for Metroid Prime: Federation Force, it does look interesting and I will probably grab it after I've heard what the game will offer to the lone player.
All it probably would have taken was one small reveal that they are working on the next 3D Mario game or one of their less known IPs and people would have been singing a different tune. I think that we need to remember that Nintendo reveals stuff throughout the year and we are going to be getting more information on Zelda WiiU later in the year and most likely some more surprises about games that we didn't know they were working on possibly by the end of Summer. I do think they could have had a much better Digital Event if they released games on the Eshop at a temporary discount as they showed the new games. For instance after the Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam trailer they could have then announced that "Mario and Luigi: Partners in time" and "Bowser's Inside Story" would be available on the Eshop when the digital event was over for a discount lasting for the week or something like that. I also would have love to be able to get Metroid: Zero Mission in NA. Seeing how much hype Earthbound Beginnings raised I think they could really do more surprise Eshop releases and have a completely different feel to their presentations. Generate hype for the new game in the series by making more of the classic games in the series available at the same time as the announcement.
@FLUX_CAPACITOR You misunderstood me completely. This has nothing to do with E3. The E3 showing is merely a symptom of the underlying problems, not the cause. I never said Nintendo as a whole is dieing, I said that Nintendo as we know it is going to cease to exist by next year's end as a result of the capital alliance with DeNA.
WHERE IS RETRO????!!!!!
Can't understand the hate for Legend of Zelda: Triforce Heroes. We already have three single player focused Zelda games on 3DS, this is refreshing and quite frankly really fun looking. It's not "ruining" the franchise and it's hardly a "rip-off".
The new Metroid looks interesting but let's be honest, it's not Metroid.
The Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi crossover also looks like a lot of fun, I'm not sure about whether I'll get it but I'll definitely consider it.
@IceClimbers
The company has been surprisingly aloof in dealing with gamers, their fans, and the industry as a whole for a couple generations now. So, the "doing nothing" concept is more apt than I was saying, so to speak. I think this comes from, in large part, their latter-day "not competing" bullcrap and their failure to understand how the industry was changing way back in the 2000s.
It does feel like they're doing nothing half the time. But there's such a total lack of content in this E3 and recent Directs that they better be doing something back there. Still. Frustrating. What a terrible showing.
@Mario_Fart
I'm certainly not getting another Nintendo console if they continue with region locking. Enough is enough.
@FLUX_CAPACITOR Mobile business tactics are only a side show for now. They will be a main attraction for the next console(s), and will most likely become the modus operandi for Nintendo's business structure.
@FLUX_CAPACITOR What's funny about that is that Nintendo actually used to blow our minds. Remember when we got amazing innovative games like Galaxy? What happened to those days when games were actually big, bold, and creative?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vhe3vSe-mmw
I really enjoy a lot, isn't the best one but I have a nice feeling all the time and I really love the star fox game, the puppet segments, the new Mario and Luigi game ante new Mario tenis, was a great time for me
What in the world was that?! You messed up big time Nintendo, just look at all the fans you've angered! Good god this has to be the biggest gaming mishap/blunder since Microsofts original Xbox One policy!
While this isn't the end of the world to me, it was still a huge shock to see how Nintendo handled their presentation and worst of all their precious IPs! Seriously, what in the world were they thinking when they made these games? I have no doubt they will be fun games, but this is an insult to various Nintendo fanbases. I honestly can't believe this just happened, seriously hope Nintendo gets it together and does something to patch things up with their fans.
DISAPPOINTED. period.
The games that were shown seemed so odd to me. obviously we had the games we were expecting but the new games that were shown looked very IDK like Nintendo rushed to make whatever game they could in order to actually have an E3 showing this year.
Contrary to popular opinion, I didn't think Nintendo did horribly, only when compared to Sony and Microsoft.
Then again, EVERYONE showed next to nothing. Nothing this year (not a Halo fan, Tomb Raider is just an Uncharted rip-off now and Star Fox seems like a poor man's Mass Effect, but with vehicles instead of personable characters) of any interest, aside from 2 Wii U games already out in Japan.
Microsoft did next to nothing. Pseudo BC (sounds like what they were originally going to do to prevent used games, to be honest), overpriced, overcomplicated PC controller (obviously pandering to the PC gaming crowd) and a bunch of useless talk about VR tech which, let's face it, makes about Sony dropped 5 minutes of a game that has been in development for over 6 years (and it honestly didn't look game changing the way the first two in the series did), a remake that fans have been asking for for over 10 years (and both SE and Sony ignored for at least 9) and barely showed any new content from No Man's Sky (which is still the most vague title in their 'arsenal').
Nintendo showed a few games announced last year and dropped a few shovelware 3DS games to try and fatten the pot. Unfortunately, it's now 1st party titles that are turning to shovelware. Nothing on the NX front (which they confirmed before the show), no new Metroid Prime, Kid Icarus, Pokémon, DK (not a platformer, but an open world game) or any info regarding the New 3DS and whether or not any other games will be released exclusively for it (though I suspect Hyrule Warriors may take advantage of it's specs in a significant way).
Even 3rd parties were lacking.
Ubisoft did what was predicted, with nothing breaking really happening. EA was typical EA. And Bethesda dropped 3 sequels, one overhyped with a rehashed plotline, surprisingly shoddy character models and cutscenes and a recycled combat system. Another was excessively violent and a bit boring, complete with banal AI and simply teeming with old hat gameplay and repetitive gunplay. And the last, a true bright spot, but one so entirely overshadowed by its copy and paste brethren that it was conveniently pushed aside once the brief 'demo' was completed.
Like the E3 before this one and the 15 before that one, this was another year of speeches, multi-million dollar cutscenes and adverts and little substance in the midst. I'm beginning to think that companies like Pixar sponsor E3, just to see who they would like to add to their team of 3D animation movie makers because (like usual) E3 was overly cinematic, under informative, excessively vague and incredibly overhyped. 2015 has been a wash and doesn't look like it'll get much better.
Here's to 2016 friends (considering that's when every game worth anything seems to be releasing)!
I thought this presentation was okay. The puppets were clever, but everything else was...okay. I did feel disappointed in some cases, though.
It was nice to see some footage of Star Fox Zero, new details for Super Mario Maker, a multiplayer Metroid, a new Mario Tennis game, and more footage for other games in development. AC amiibo Festival isn't something I'd want, but I'm not even sure if I'd want another AC game on Wii U if it's still going to continue the annoying realistic elements (I know this is a life sim series, but I want to see the water-flowering and grass erosion out the door for good). I too wanted a Paper Mario on Wii U, but it seems that for now, we'll just have to deal with what Mario & Luigi is giving us on 3DS right now.
Once again, this presentation is overall okay for me. If most of the games in the Digital Event had never shown any release dates nor most of the already-known games had shown any good amount of footage, THEN I would've agreed with the majority and called it a disappointment.
Failure.
Uninteresting new games, games we already knew...
I enjoyed Bethesda's presentation more.
WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS FAILURE!
WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS FAILURE!
This was fantastic
@McoobabWATP Possibly, but SEGA's fall from grace was due to many more factors than just hardware confusion. Nintendo will continue to make hardware because there will always be fans of its IP and its IP is only available on Nintendo consoles. Look at the Wii U; next to no third party support, yet it still sells, though just barely. As long as Nintendo keeps its games exclusive to its consoles, there will be enough people to keep it profitable, simple as that.
While I was disappointed by the overall event. It was nice to see something so whimsical. Also great to see Star Fox looking sharp and Super Mario Maker looks to be amazing. Furthermore it was a fantastic surprise to get Earthbound Beginnings.
The whole Animal Crossing Wii U spot was the most disappointed I have ever been in regards to conference reveals about video games. In the grand scheme of life, that doesn't mean much at all...but it really did feel like the rug was swept out from under the collective feet of all those hoping for a proper release.
Now to don my tin-foil hat a little bit. It was quite a quick response from Nintendo to address the disappointment people where feeling, indicating that they do indeed monitor social media in real time. So they may have seen that the majority of people where quite disappointed that Retro's next game was (EDIT: Could possibly be) related to the DK franchise, and perhaps they pulled that from the presentation. It would explain the bananas well, don't you think? Like I said, tin-foil hat stuff.
Well, in trying to understand the ebb and flow of the video game world, it is likely that a lot of their (Nintendo and friends) resources are being transferred to the NX, and so filler games will be the norm until then.
The only reason I didn't think the Digital Event was that bad is because I want into it expecting absolutely NOTHING and when I say nothing, I mean that. (Granted, it was pretty underwhelming and meh overall.) So although I'd seen practically everything they presented already, I didn't mind because I wasn't expecting to see anything new either. On that front, it was nice to see gameplay footage of previously known titles and to see where they are in the development stages.
Nintendo is still #1 in handhelds (and is the only thing I really love them for) but I lost respect for them, in terms of consoles, a long time ago when Fuhrer Iwata came along — great guy but a bleeping imbecile business-wise. It simply baffles me how he's been allowed to run the ship this long... And should the NX truly be the next system, I don't see that changing anything over there because Iwata's influence and philosophies will still pervade. Iwata approaches gaming systems as if they were toys instead of pieces of technology: waggle controllers; gyro-tablets; cheap plastics; marginal specs (I'm no graphics whore but come on)... It's the 21st century and Nintendo still has no real account system, no hard drives 'cause Iwata's too cheap and instead wants you to buy SD cards to expand memory... What the heck?? Future Nintendo machines may finally get fully-realized online capabilities via the DeNa partnership, though.
If the NX is their next system, my wish list is simple: get rid of the gimmicky control schemes; robust online functionality; contemporary specs; and, for crying out loud, put a darn hard drive in the thing. The Wii U was supposed to be their reentrance into the modern gaming world and they screwed that up royally — mainly by including "Wii" in the system's name. We'll see if Iwata gets it right this time... (But I'm not holding my breath.)
@Quorthon lets hope you're right. but its so sad that i might sell my wiiu before the new zelda game comes out. i need a ps4 so bad.
Seems like nobody is pleased at all. I haven't enjoyed E3 at all this year from anyone. I do think Nintendo are focusing on next year but what exactly that will be is anybodys guess. (Im talking about content not the NX)
Sony and Microsoft have a lot of 3rd party support but like always we know next to nothing about the features of alot of those games.
More games equals more failure.
I am really let down. This E3 was full of misses. I'm not let down enough to say, "Nintendo's finished," or such, but I'm just very dissapointed.
Wow, most of you are just as disappointed as me, but some of the (very) few others really live in denial...
Now, before you call anyone "immature" or something, let me just tell you this: i'm 46, my first Nintendo experience was on a Game & Watch when i was 11, and since then, i've played on ALL their consoles, and know most of their classics...
And with time, Nintendo has given me a lot of first class fun, that's for sure, but also never failed to let me down... and THIS let down will be the final one, cos i don't buy a console who's not even supported by its 1st party maker, and is meant to die when that generation is only beginning... the fact that the next Zelda on Wii U will be its swan song is just a SHAME, a 300 euros shame... and i don't even mention the "Amiibos" nonsense, and all these embarassing details makin' Nintendo look totally out of touch...
So, never again will i buy any of their console: too bad for my most beloved games like Fire Emblem, Zelda, Metroid and Super Marios, maybe, but i'm old enough to know when i should feel betrayed, and how i should vote with my wallet, thank you!
@MitchVogel normally I'd agree but right now the message seems to be "buy a nintendo console and if it sells well you'll get your beloved ip if not here have some spin offs".im not saying those games will be bad but at this point nintendo really had to keep the faithful happy so they can count on them to look forward to the nx.i think a lot of confidence was damaged with this presentation.people don't want to wait till the end of a consoles lifespan for a proper zelda or miss a gen here n there for an ip (proper metroid f-zero etc).times have changed and people like being able to pick up a couple of retail games a month (a lot of folk are still ignorant of indies and eshop games) even if they have to trade in old ones not a couple of games a year and unless you own both bits of hardware which not everyone does then nintendo really aren't offering enough nor are they offering any indication of changing for the better.
Don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to. OH WELL...
What happened to Super Mario Sunshine HD?
@FLUX_CAPACITOR most of those were games announced over a year ago tho.people were looking for a sign nintendo would keep supporting the wii u beyond what was already announced and the 2 new games shown for it don't exactly suggest they do.they look relatively quick to make and that would normally be ok but with the drought of games on wii u people expect the games that actually do turn up on the console to look like they've had an awful lot of effort put in,the animal crossing one in particular looks a bit thin,even star fox seems a bit bare bones the lack of online play (at this point at least) already diminishes it's replayability compared to other nintendo games .
@Spoony
I feel the same way. I've never seen Nintendo look so poor at E3.
@BXXL I'm a bit younger than you, but I'm still an aged gamer that love this expensive hobby. With all the bills to pay it's hard to save something for gaming and I hoped that the Wii U, thanks to more power and HD could have been the definitive console, the one I'd played the nintendo classic series in a new shining light and great third party games. Three years later we still don't have a Zelda, a Metroid, a F-Zero and we must consider ourselves lucky if we'll play the first of it next year. It seems that the only way to be not disappointed with Nintendo is having a PS4 next to it...
I even wonder in what they are investing all the money they get from these **** amiibos...
"cos i don't buy a console who's not even supported by its 1st party maker"
On point.
Feels like Nintendo's Saturn to me. NX could be Dreamcast.
Use E3 bombs wisely.
Looks like no-one told Iwata that 'Nintendoom' is so last year.
@FLUX_CAPACITOR problem is 80% of those games were long ago announced.... SMTvsFE is even on radar since the WiiU Launch.... Yoshi has been talked about already during last e3 and I think it also got a direct.... same as Mario Maker (that hey, it is just an expensive editor after all....), Xenoblade is already in shops in Japan.... what we got about "Nintendo taking care of WiiU for the future" is a Tennis Game (yeppa), Starfox (nothing new again) and an Animal Crossing that, instead of beeing the definitive edition of AC for home console is a Party game (really? after WiiU party and MP 10 the best you can think is another one? when we would like to see a racer like F-Zero, a fps like Metroid, maybe just me, but I would love a new Mario Striker.....
And sorry.... but archiving everything with "Maybe they will show us something in the next future" does not work here... I am seeing facts.... facts are that in the biggest western worldwide gaming event you have shown absolutely nothing at all of new ideas... nothing that can make me (and so many with me) thinking about a bright future for WiiU.....
@BXXL
You are about the same age of my eldest brother who is (or was, maybe still is) a staunch Nintendo supporter.
He pretty much said the same thing. As he put it "Those days are gone, let them rest fondly in the past, Nintendo cannot go back in time".
Let's face it, there's not much Nintendo can do now. After Mario Maker, what is left? We're making our own levels, the magic is gone, we won't be very impressed with another New Super Mario Bros. They're out of ideas, it had to happen some time.
They'll just become a brand like Disney, selling toys as people remember the classics. It was good while it lasted, we'll always have the memories.
Thank-you Nintendo.
As a Wii U owner, the only point of interest was Star Fox Zero. I'm just surprised it's still slated for 2015 (though that may change at any moment).
It was ok. Although, despite not being a fan of either series, I can say that AC amiibo Festival and to a lesser extent, Federation Force, were a big kick to the ba**s. It's just plain insulting. I do want Triforce Heroes, Paper Jam, Wooly World and Super Mario Maker. I might pick up FE. Dissapointing? Yes. Terrible? No.
@FLUX_CAPACITOR maybe I should rephrase that to "supporting the wii u to a significant degree".there weren't several new wii u games announced there were 2,tennis and a board game.those are not the sort of games people were expecting if nintendo were still fully dedicated to the console,many were probably hoping for action/adventure or a 3d platformer that doesn't play like a 2d one ala 3d world.im not saying those games will be bad,but given there's already 2 party games it doesn't instill confidence that the wii u will be around for all that much longer after zelda is released at least tennis helps the lack of sports games.frankly the 3ds had a much better showing paper jam and fire emblem impressed many and personally I think federation force and coop zelda will be lots of fun.nintendo are coming across as tho they have moved most of r&d to the nx and mobile,if the company aren't completey invested in the current product how do they expect the public to bother with it?
And I'm hardly despairing about star fox.i think the game looks solid,I never said anything about the graphics,i was merely making a point that if there's not online play a lot of folk won't see it as offering as much value as mario kart ,smash even splatoon ,if it's a short game there'll be a bunch of preowned copies on the shelves within a month online would help in that aspect.such is the way of the modern gamer
XBOX ONE is backward compatible!...I mean come on. To be fair, Nintendo do their own Direct feeds with news every now and again but did little to impress at E3 this year. As much as I love Nintendo, not everyone wants Mario Maker. I think I was pleased to see Starfox announced. They could at least officially update the world on the amiibo shortages but hey.
@BXXL I hear you. I'm going to feel royally ripped off if they drop Wii U already. I've poured at least £600 into it at this point and only had it 7 months and I don't think it needs better graphics. 3rd parties would disagree I guess but I don't really buy Nintendo machines to play CoD so...
I remember seeing an article on Nintendolife that stated Nintendo would only be showing games at E3 that release in 2015. This is why they said no Wii Zelda at E3. This would also explain why there is no big surprises. There are 5 big games (6 if you include Fatal Frame)
Perhaps this is bad idea from Ninty not showing intentions for 2016, but that was communicated.
Would have been good to get more info on the Club Nintendo replacement or VC updates
I have waited till now to comment about yesterday. I rewatched the broadcast, just to help clear my thoughts about it. Just very disappointed overall. Its nice to see the 3DS have a few more games as there a real lack of games for the rest of the year / early 2016. However the Wii U has been left wanting. Yes i know we have super mario maker and star fox. Looking forward to both after watching some of the Treehouse footage of star fox. Xenoblade X is a marmite type of game. You will love it or hate and in europe it will not sale too well (i hope i am wrong as i am going to try it). Zelda is still a long way off and will probably be the Wii U's swansong. The lack of 1 or 2 more big releases hurts - a real Metroid game, F-Zero, Wave race, Diddy kong racing, Mario Galaxy/Sunshine, a real Animal crossing, Mario strikers etc. Nintendo you have a great list to choose from. That's why i and judging by the rest of the comments most people feel disappointment. Also no news on the VC (N64, Gamecube, other consoles TG16 Sega etc). That needs addressing. The Indy game demos is a great idea, but there must be more you can show. The best thing for me to come out of E3 is the backward compatibility for Xbox 360 on the Xbox 1. Now i can upgrade and hopefully take most of me 360 games with me.
@Ootfan98
But it still doesn't make sense. They said it was only about 2015. Yet didn't show Devils Third and Fatal Frame. Then did show 4 3DS games that are scheduled for 2016 plus SMTXFE but no Zelda. Baffling.
They are trying to appeal to old and new audience. They know people in my and above my age group are having children and do not know what to give them. So they are being appealing to parents as well as kids.
People go gaga crazy for puppetry.
@FLUX_CAPACITOR Just look at the rapidly increasing number of mobile type games and shady DLC practices Nintendo are releasing now, then look at the types of games and infrastructure DeNA provides in the mobile market... That's going to be what Nintendo's infrastructure is going to look like. It's not difficult to connect the dots just by looking at their offerings. I never said that was necessarily a bad thing, that's just the way it is. I just don't particularly like that direction for myself, that doesn't affect other people perhaps liking what is to come.
@Yorumi
"All they had to do was give even the tiniest hint that they care about the wiiU and gamers and they couldn't even give one"
It was even worse than that, it almost came across as an exercise in trolling their own fans.
"Hey everyone asking for a new Metroid, great news! Here's a team sports multiplayer game that looks like a mobile game and has the Metroid Prime name tenuously slapped on the box"
"And for everyone excited by the hints of an Animal Crossing announcement. We know what you want and here it is....a Mario Party clone reliant on toys you probably won't be able to buy"
"Mario fans! 30th Anniversary time! We've got some YouTube clips, a game we showed last year and...drumroll please.. .Tennis!"
@TheHumbleFellow Star Fox wasn't the problem, despite all the whining over graphics that really look fine (oh, boo-hoo, it doesn't look as good as maxed out PS4 graphics, big surprise). The problem was the bland set of reveals like the "Metroid" game or a Mario RPG crossover that few want.
After last year's glorious presentation, I think we were all expecting much more tantalising first looks to really get excited about. This one just felt so bland, overall. Mario Maker, Xenoblade, and Star Fox were all that kept me going through it.
@electrolite77 This is exactly what it felt like.
My only comfort is that Super Mario Maker and Xenoblade Chronicles X got release dates.
Now, Nintendo needs to promote Xenoblade Chronicles X more. It's going to be an awesome title.
@electrolite77
It is admirable and sometimes truly mysterious how some fans can be happy (or drink whatever Nintendo pour into their throats) about an e3 like that....
To me, the day after, this conference tells me that the only one that doesn't love WiiU is Nintendo itself..... and also that they do not give a f**** on what their hyper-loyal fanbase ask them....
They are nailing the coffin of WiiU without clearly declare it, and trying in the meantime to milk the fanbase until the last coin, with DLCs, plastic Toys and silly games just made to milk us more and more....
I am done with this... I will get the 2/3 titles I wanna play that I still miss on the console and then farewell Nintendo...
Totally underwhelming to see the fate of Star Fox, Metroid Prime and Animal Crossing.
I love and miss the old Nintendo but currently I believe they'd do better being just another developer. Perhaps only then they could focus on the games and make better games, they know how to do it because they were the best in the past.
Even a day later and I am still fuming about their show yesterday. Not just a slap in the face to us Animal Crossing fans, but literally like a stab in the heart. Most wanted the first true home console entry in the series in seven years, and instead we got that garbage. I was mad yesterday, and I'll be mad again when the game actually comes out - which, by the way, is tentatively listed on Amazon for preorder at $59.99. Even if the price ends up being wrong, the fact that this isn't a free-to-play game is astonishing.
Yesterday's show instills no confidence in the Wii U going forward, for current owners nor prospective buyers. Its a real shame though because they started the week on a great note with the Smash video, Earthbound and the NWC. Then this happens. It's like Nintendo doesn't even care what its fans want, nor do they even seem to be in touch with their fanbase at all. To think Animal Crossing fans wanted that Mario Party clone, or Metroid fans wanted a generic shooter with a Metroid skin thrown on it is almost too ridiculous to believe.
Also, leaving off Devil's Third and Fatal Frame V (the latter of which had an excellent trailer and release date yesterday) is mind boggling.
I'm still getting Super Mario Maker, Fatal Frame V, and a couple others perhaps, but my enthusiasm for Wii U has went right down the toilet... the same place Nintendo seems to have flushed the hopes of two large franchise fanbases.
@Yorumi It will be interesting to research and account for events leading up to this sea change, especially since 2011. We have already done some looking, and there is more yet to be done.
@ericwithcheese2 I totally agree with you and you forgot about Star Fox cheap sequel.
I believe Fatal Frame (Project Zero in Europe) is the best game to be released for Wii U in 2015. They should have paid more attention to it and let us know the release date for Europe.
I agree that Nintendo did say they will only talk about games in 2015 for the Wii U. This in itself confirms they have nothing new to offer but it also defeats the WHOLE purpose of E3, where everyone reveal future LONG TERM projects. That is also why I have been saying all along that the Wii U is being killed off, taking a lot of bullets from fanboys who disagree with me - as they are entitled to - along the way.
While other companies are working their asses off to promote their products the very best that they can by showcasing long term projects Nintendo does the exact opposite.
Whereas Sony and MS are saying to the consumer "buy my console, the future is bright" Nintendo is saying "Our console ain't worth £$%^"!!
I will be extremely surprise and eat humble pie if Devil's Third isn't canned on the Wii U.
@RandomNerds Thanks. I'm glad my rage benefited somewhere. haha
A lot of people are disappointed by the lack of new games announced, including me..
EXCEPT: Super Mario Maker, Star Fox Zero and Xenoblade X - 3 games I will buy in release day this year that I am super excited about. Will buy my first amiibo too (hopefully) if I can get my paws on a the 8-bit Mario.
I only bought Mario Kart on Wii U and AC Rogue on Xbox 360 on release day last year, so that's saying something.
The lineup looks good, but e3 sucked real bad.
Kind of opposite from the others.
@Skullcruncher No, the reason why I only use my Wii U and PS3 is, because the PS4 and Xbox One has nothing for me that would make me buy one of their consoles. That plain and simple. The game on those consoles are bland and boring for me. I can't change this, this is how I feel for those consoles.
@Yorumi I only hate one console company (next to some game devs like Capcom, Ubisoft and EA to call some of them ) and that is Microsoft. I plain hate them for fooling us and trying to spy on us. Sony is a different story; I still have all of their consoles and games and I'm happy with the PS1, 2 and 3. But the PS4... there is simply nothing that makes me buy a PS4. I wish that there would be more than one game to make me pick up a PS4, but that is sadly not the case and I feel it sad because I want to buy a PS4, but not for one game. That would be a waste of money.
"...a game with a gigantic universe..." I had such a game with Red Faction Armageddon and after a while, it gets boring. If you like this type of game, sure why not? I'm not saying that people should stop buying those games but only Nintendo games like Animal Crossing Happy House Designer or Amiibo Festival. Maybe it is just me, who doesn't like the grim and photo-realistic games. The thing with the 60 bucks boardgame is, that is has a theme, that is familiar to me and gives me a smile after a hard day at work, where I can forget my sorrows and worries for the next day, even if only for 2 or 3 hours. Does this stop me from playing Just Cause 2 or Uncharted? No, far from it as I mentioned above with Red Faction Armageddon. But, and believe me or not and take it like you want, those next gen games look just bland to me. I don't know why, it is just the feeling I have and had when I looked at The Last of Us. It was just not my type of tea, I guess and that is why I feel how I feel for Nintendo games. But who know, maybe Nintendo will vanish one day and then, I have to go somewhere else and deal with it. Nobody knows what the future will bring.
Let me tell you what game was made me want to buy a PS4; Uncharted 4. That's it. This was the only games I liked from their look on the PS4.
@Jesh Puppycat!!!
Meh it was a sedate year. A lot on games we already knew about. The most interesting thing is a focus on multiplayer. I wish this was sign Nintendo was evolving and embracing accounts properly. I really wish.
@ericwithcheese2 It's insulting that us Animal Crossing fans don't get a new entry but at the same time will have to pay from $30-$60 for a Mario Party rip-off (and since you need amiibo to even play the game) and buy at least $30 worth of amiibo. If the $60 price tag remains the same, we're looking at a $90 cash grab.
@Franklin
"cos i don't buy a console who's not even supported by its 1st party maker"
So , no Sony or Microsoft for you then
I get the disappointment with the digital event , I do , but the amount of vitriol been unleashed is ridiculous. As usual with Nintendo , most of the disappointment stems from our own expectations of what we think they might show. Anybody selling their Wii U because of one Digital Event is overreacting on a massive scale in my opinion. From now until Xmas there are roughly a dozen games coming to Wii U. Super Mario Maker , Xenoblade , Fatal Frame and Devil's Third will be here soon. Two of those are nailed on great , the other two have potential. There will probably be a direct in a couple of months with some new game announcements from Nintendo. Miyamoto has confirmed Zelda is still coming to Wii U. Calm down people , calm down.
I think they kept too much behind the curtain and focused too heavily on titles that previously have been announced. I didn't need to see Xenoblade Chronicles X, Yoshi's Wolly World, Fire Emblem, or SMT X FE trailer. What I needed to see was Devil's Third and Fatal Frame in action. I wanted to see a little more than a title that might exceed Amiibo Tap in uselessness and being uninteractive (AC Board Game) and Mario Tennis 6.
I think that most people are disappointed by Nintendo showing 2 irrelevant mario games , they could've at least created a gorgeous Mario 3d World 2 or Galaxy 3 or anything in that genre with the resources spent on both of them . Animal crossing amiibo festival was a HUGE letdown , I hate board games , I really can't stand them . I'm happy they didn't announce a new pokemon game cause that is more proof that they are working on something big for the anniversary next year . Everything else was great , and even though the metroid title all of you wanted didn't turn out to be what you expected it's shaping up to be a great game !
But seriously , I feel that they ruined the presentation with the Animal Crossing U and the 2 Mario s. Major disappointment ....
Star Fox 64 is my all time favorite game, and I've waited literally 9 years for a new Star Fox game, so I just hope that it's a good one.
I said earlier, as long as I get Star Fox I'm happy, everything else is just icing on a birthday cake, but if it's a poor game this year's E3 will have been a total bust for me I want to be optimistic about it though
@SnuggleMon well I'm sorry you feel that way about the current gen consoles but sadly your in the minority. Your missing out on amazing experiences that can only be provided by Microsoft/Sony.
Don't get me wrong I love Nintendo games. It's just that Nintendo alone cannot keep up with the variety and quantity of games available through other means.
@Skullcruncher Don't worry, I'm not mad with you. Maybe there will be some games for the PS4 that will convince me to buy a PS4, but at the moment, it does not looks like. I understand you completely that you are disappointed with what Nintendo offers us gamers.... and yes, even if it hurt a lot, I have to agree to this point. It is just that Nintendo was always a part of my life. To lose this, would be a painful as losing an arm. I guess this sounds maybe weird, but it is what it is and how I feel about it.
And with that, I think I said enough. Thanks for your comments, @Skullcrucher and @Yorumi. I only hope that I did not made you angry, because that would be the last I want. You are great people, stay that way.
Part of me somehow still hopes that Nintendo is just trolling us all by delivering such a disappointing presentation that everybody is only talking about that and not about the competitors, and will blow as all away with a surprise direct the next days.
One can still hope, it's better than to face the sad truth that Wii U is over and done for.
@SnuggleMon it's alright. Just wanted to know your reasoning behind your response to me. Kudos for realizing that Nintendo has let its audience down. Your a great person as well and I hope this isn't the last I see of you NL.
"Which was your favourite game in the Nintendo Digital Event? (4,512 votes)
Animal Crossing amiibo Festival (Wii U)
0%
Skylanders Superchargers (Wii U)
0%"
...Yup.
I learned one great thing from Nintendo's E3. After buying Nintendo systems on the first day of release for years I am finally done. I might still buy the nx but it will be well after its released and gets the usual 6 month price drop.
@FLUX_CAPACITOR That's the thing, it's not just one E3. It's been 5 years of nostalgia fueled rehashes, we should be seeing some kind of game on that scale now. Also, Tanabe's comments about Metroid imply that the NX is coming very soon and that Nintendo doesn't care about these kinds of games, so don't hold your breath. If we get any such game (and it's far from certain that we will), it'll be the Wii U's swan song.
@KTT Yeah, it definitely feels like Nintendo doesn't care all that much about appealing to the West. Those big Wii U games we all want to see that have amazing graphics and innovative gameplay? They haven't happened yet, and aren't likely to happen period (we already know Metroid isn't). Their games have become a lot more watered down and they're shifting to handheld and mobile. It's pretty safe to say they're only halfheartedly trying to appeal to us, they don't want to put a lot of effort into making good games anymore.
Like others have said here, I think I wasn't as thrilled at Nintendo's e3 announcements as I could have been because there was no real big surprise, we knew about most of those games. But I think most of the games, aside from the Japanamation stuff in the middle seemed pretty fun!
That said, I really do feel like Nintendo could create a video game that cured cancer and people would complain that it didn't cure AIDS too. Here's some feedback I've seen here or on other sites:
I WANTED MORE FROM MARIO....But you got Mario Maker and Paper jam.....WELL I WANTED SUNSHINE OR GALAXY....Sorry!
I WANTED A METROID GAME.....But you got Metroid Federation Force....WELL THAT WASN'T THE METROID GAME I WANTED....Sorry, they went with a multi-player type Metroid game because people have been saying for a long time that Nintendo is lacking in its multi-player....WELL I WANTED A SINGLE PLAYER METROID....Sorry!
I WANTED AN ANIMAL CROSSING GAME FOR THE WII U....But you got Amiibo Festival....THAT'S NOT A REAL ANIMAL CROSSING GAME....Sorry!
NINTENDO RELIES TOO MUCH ON THE SAME OLD IP'S.....And that's different from Uncharted, God of War, Halo, or Gears of War how?
I WANTED TO HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT ZELDA OR THE NX....You had been told for over a week that there wouldn't be any information at e3 about either of those...YA BUT ALL THOSE 'EXPERTS' ONLINE KEPT SAYING THAT NINTENDO ALWAYS LIES AND SURPRISES US EVEN THOUGH THEY SAY ONE THING THEY DO ANOTHER...Sorry, those 'experts' are idiots.
MICROSOFT CLEARLY WON E3, EVEN THOUGH THEIR GAMES WERE KIND OF LACKING THEY'RE BRINGING BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY TO THE XB1....Wow that's great for all the 14 y/o boys playing COD, but Nintendo didn't have to waste 15 minutes of their e3 presentation talking about backwards compatibility because the Wii U and 3DS have had it from day one.
NINTENDO SPENT LIKE 15 MINUTES TALKING ABOUT AMIIBOS AND I THINK THEY'RE STUPID....I agree.
Hmmm let's see....terrible, horrible and even more terrible!! Wouldn't even know where to begin so I'll leave it at that!!😁😞😭
So no home console Paper Mario? never? ok...
Imho event was ok. Listen kids and gents Nintendo has a profit to made. Its noy hteir fault you bought only 8 milions WiiU. The consolle is goood but it failed to have appeal on target audience. They need to make hd games on tighter budget. If you understand their situation you will finally know that thwy are doing their best. When you are so unhappy why dont you buy their games and consoles and support them. Nintendo futurre is multiplatform and mobile. And NX will be the right step. Also a decent streaming partner like Nvidia Grid could solve the lacking 3rd party support. Its hard to develop for Nintendo on such low user base and when fanboys are not buying 3rd party games.
To sum up...
They pissed off the Metroid fans.
They pissed off the Star Fox fans.
They pissed off the Zelda fans.
They pissed off the Animal Crossing fans.
Still no F-Zero, obviously...
And plenty more time fillers with Mario's name slapped on it.
@Yorumi Nintendo released WIIU years before competition. X360 and ps3 had lower hardware specs as WIIU. It was the strongest hardware and best line-up at that time. And fanboys and fangirls didnt bought. You just stop blame Nintendo and play CoD and Gears on your Xbox
Seriously when fans didnt support years ago the platform, how should nintendo proceed with business? The best way to go mobile and do good console with streaming capabilities asap. Maybe with third party service like Nvidia Grid , SteamOS etc. 3ds success and good mobile future sales can make a game - changer for them. And btw. Its not job of company to buy their products. They sell them well but fanboys and fangirls are having ps4, xone, pc and dont play nintendo games and 3rd party games anymore. This must change if Nintendo needs to survive it will make multiplatform and mobile soon.
Funny how I'm one of the few (or maybe the only one) whose highlight was Federation Force, since Metroid Prime Hunters is one of my favorite games.
The polls speak the truth.
The problem with Nintendo's E3 Direct wasn't the stuff like the muppets, which were actually funny and really well done (those first few mins with the muppets were brilliant—sadly that was about all that was), but the fact that everything that wasn't an actual game was clearly in there to try and distract people from the truth that there basically weren't many games at all to get excited about, and especially if you only own one of Nintendo's consoles. Most of the stuff Nintendo showed was clearly hastily chucked together spin-off filler, designed to make people think Nintendo is delivering all the big franchise titles the fans have been literally begging for, like a new Animal Crossing, Metroid, Zelda and even Star Fox; when in reality almost none of the games Nintendo has shown are actually what the fans really wanted at all.
Nintendo knows exactly what fans mean when they ask for new Animal Crossing and Metroid games, even Star Fox, and it's patronising and offensive to try and even pretend it actually believes it's given them what they asked for with these clearly minimum effort tittles, when it knows fine well it isn't.
Go look at what the other two companies announced and showed in their presentations—both in terms of numbers of titles and general quality; along with a few other bits and bobs they also announced—and by comparison, Nintendo's Direct lineup was an absolute joke...
I mean Nintendo couldn't even match Microsoft's announcement for what it was doing to celebrate Rare's 30th anniversary—offering a massive 30 game pack of classic Rare titles for only $30 (some of them huge titles, in both genuine classic status, absolute critical acclaim and just actual size/scope. I'm talking like a few full Xbox 360 titles here)—and Nintendo is supposed to be celebrating the 30th anniversary of it's by far most beloved character and by far the biggest character in video game entertainment. Super Mario Maker looks great but is that really all Nintendo had to announce at E3 for Mario's 30th birthday—some more footage of a simple 2D Mario level editor/game we've known about and seen images/footage of for over a year at this point.
Nintendo deserves to be called out here and I'm happy to be one of the many people doing just that.
I for one loved this E3 presentation, I was literally over the moon to hear about Hyrule Warriors Legends, though looking at the screen shots graphics can be improved, especially since we know the 3ds is much more capable of good quality games due to the upgrade. Though overall I am pleased.
@Peach64 To be fair, the Zelda multiplayer game looks like a lot of fun to me. I understand why people are upset about Metroid, because this isn't as good as a real Metroid game. But if we're getting Zelda Wii U, Hyrule Warriors, AND this multiplayer game, I say there's no reason to complain as far as Zelda content is concerned.
@Kirk I agree with all of your points except for the Rare 30 game collection thing. That game is a stupid cash-cow. I was so mad to see that reveal. They basically said, "Hey! Remember how awesome Rare USED TO BE BEFORE WE RUINED THEM! Here's a whole pack of games to remind you that you'll never get another good Rare game again!!". I would have taken one new Battletoads or Banjo Kazooie over 30 existing games for $30.
Mario Maker, on the other hand, is offering something completely new that people actually want. Again, I agree with your other points, and I'm not arguing that Mario Maker makes up for the lackluster E3 presentation by Nintendo. Just saying, that Rare collection is a spit in the face in my opinion.
@Femur_Lemur If however you just look objectively at what is being offered in both of those deals, I think it's clear that Microsoft has offered it's loyal consumers a better deal (value proposition) as part of its own 30th birthday celebration of Rare (which as just one of many dev teams at the company now—one that's not seen much love in recent years—I didn't think it would even make that big a deal of) than what Nintendo is offering its own loyal consumers as part of its 30th birthday celebration of Mario (basically the most iconic, beloved and popular character/brand in all of video gaming, and Nintendo's mascot character; the face of Nintendo):
The $30 Rare pack gives gamers 30, THIRTY, full games to explore and enjoy. Forget about whether you've played most of them before or not. It's 30, THIRTY, full games—a couple of which offer a great many hours of gameplay in and of themselves. A few of them even have multiplayer and online too; offering additional longevity.
Super Mario Maker is basically a level editor for old Mario games, and I presume it's also going to cost full retail price too. It's value is going to be in all the user created levels, which is going to add a lot of longevity to the title, but at the end of the day it's basically the same thing as PS4 owners getting a game like Little Big Planet or Xbox One owners getting a game like Project Spark; except it's actually far more limited in scope and scale than both of those games.
Super Mario Maker is going to be a great game and there's going to be some awesome user generated levels, no doubt about it, but it's just one game, and imo it's hardly the brand new 2015 Mario title I personally was hoping for to really celebrate Mario's 30th anniversary. Saying that, I know I'd probably enjoy playing it more than any of the individual games in the Rare pack but that's only because Mario is basically my favourite franchise of all time, which isn't going to be the case for everyone, and in that respect the Rare bundle is likely to have at least one or two games that almost anyone could appreciate and enjoy.
I'm sure many Rare fans wanted to see something brand new from Rare to celebrate 30 years—you obviously being one of those people—but I doubt most of them will be scoffing at a 30 game compilation of most of its greatest titles for only $30.
@Kirk The Rare collection is a good value, you're right about that. The problem is that I already own all of the games that I like on the Rare collection, so there's no need for me to buy it unless I really care about having them all in one place (Which I don't). So while the Rare collection may be objectively a better deal than Mario Maker, the former has no value for me whereas the latter has a lot (like you said, LBP but smaller in scope).
@BLPs Dude, life will get better. Who gives a sh*t about what the low-lives getting you down say. You're better than them.
SFZ was already revealed. "Metroid" was a troll title. So much that people are calling for it to just not be made at all:
https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-petition-for-cancelation-of-metroid-prime-federation-force
Mario Maker looks like it could be years of fun, but we all knew about it. Basically it was a "recap" + some gimmicky Zelda title unrelated to the timeline it seems, all after a delayed Zelda Wii U.
This year Nintendo's shit was not together. Of course, their CEO was dying at the time, so I can cut them some slack.
Show Comments
Leave A Comment
Hold on there, you need to login to post a comment...