Following Nintendo's outline of its E3 plans last week, we got rather optimistic and hopeful about the Nintendo World Championships 2015, stating that the E3 event could be just the beginning. We cited the ongoing success of the truly global Pokémon tournaments as a potential blueprint, suggested that the Wii U could be the centrepiece in order to boost the system's popularity, and that Nintendo could do something special to promote the new system's games. Our argument was that this E3 event could be a launchpad for future global events that take in regional tournaments and utilise online resources - all of which should be possible with Nintendo's partnerships and current experience.
That could still happen, but we're a lot less optimistic that such ambitious plans are anywhere near the agenda having heard the details today for the Nintendo World Championships 2015 Qualifiers. They're taking place at just eight Best Buy locations, and will use the Championship mode in Ultimate NES Remix on 3DS to find eight winners that'll join eight guests at the live finals at the NOKIA Theatre in LA on 14th June. The only consolation is the scope for an interesting live event, "which will be a multi-round competition with a variety of Nintendo games".
Hopes that Nintendo would have rolled out plenty of heats at Best Buy stores around the US and a unique competition game build have fallen by the wayside, as a result. There's a whiff of last-gasp planning to proceedings at this stage, with limited scope that suggests this was a relatively late decision; it's as if Nintendo booked the NOKIA Theatre but dawdled on the actual event until it was almost too late. If this has been organised at a month's notice then, absolutely, this event is pretty much as expected.
Our optimistic viewpoint had hoped for more, however. We'd hoped this had been in the works for a number of months, that Nintendo of America was aiming to make a big splash and really build a frenzy of excitement ahead of E3. In hindsight that was unrealistic, though it's certainly disappointing to come to that conclusion.
The problem with this eventual outcome and the backlash from many online is of Nintendo's own making. We've highlighted before that nostalgia is powerful, and the company can use it as a strength but also suffer the consequences if it's underutilised. The E3 reveal video was watched over one million times within a few days, and it placed the Nintendo World Championships right at the heart of its message. Of course there was going to be excitement, that was the whole point.
The issue is that if you're going to play on nostalgia, you can't then serve up an offering so underwhelming in comparison to those origins. The 1990 event - as far as we can tell from multiple unofficial histories - had 30 qualifying events in 29 cities; each had three age categories, and 90 finalists took part in the iconic finals, captured so wonderfully in the video below.
Nintendo's mistake is simple. It brought to mind an event that's gone down in folklore, so the fair assumption was that it had plans to go all out for the 2015 iteration; sure, it would be unlikely to match that exact scale, but the issue is that the announced qualifiers don't even come close.
The logo and video have been a mistake, in that respect. Though many - arguably the majority - of potential viewers of the finals in 14th June won't care, those that are most devoted to the company seem to be - in many cases - disappointed by the outcome.
With an event that seemed targeted to its most faithful fans, Nintendo has gone from successfully building excitement to deflating all concerned in a remarkably effective way.
Our final initial reaction is a little more positive, though - we still hope that the live event in LA will be a lot of fun, and will hopefully draw a good crowd. Nintendo should take the opportunity in the next month to come up with a solid line-up of challenges for various games, ideally on Wii U if they're being blown up on an arena's screens. As for requests that some have made for a special demo download with a Championships build to be released on the eShop, perhaps we shouldn't hold our collective breath on that one.
Nevertheless, we'll be tuning in for the live event - it should be a fun slice of E3 silliness, though it could have been more.
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I just want Star Fox U to come out by the end of the year.
I agree. There isn't even an event within 500 miles of where I live in Central Michigan. Why have such an event if only so few people will be able to even participate?
Nintendo has dropped a lot of balls as of late and that meaning the last 5 years or so.
That's a fair assessment @ThomasBW84. I hope the finals are notable and not "meh" my dreams of a new game reveal have been dashed methinks.
Haha, well said @BLPs.
@Jayvir Agreed. I'm in the Mid Michigan area,just sucks that stuff like this never happens in Michigan...
@Shy_Guy Considering Grand Rapids is a HUGE metro area, you'd think it would be a given, but no events ever come here T_T
@Jayvir I know right? I'm in the Lansing area and we never have stuff like this here,I would totally go to Grand Rapids just to compete,but nope,it won't happen
Another point to bolster the idea that NOA's not competent. They definitely don't jive with the Japanese headquarter's values...
Unfortunately Japanese culture has a tough time recognizing what a "genuine" individual in America looks like... And their culture is based on recognizing the genuine character of a person through the professional presentation of that person's self.
Honestly, I'm thinking Reggie's mannerisms and professionalism impressed them directly, but they don't realize that he's not really in touch with the community and he's not nearly as competent as he portrays himself...
It's probably just that NOA's sold out, and the folks in Kyoto haven't yet realized it.
Come on you morons at Nintendo, you're trying to land a plane here with no landing gear. NES Remix? As if people don't whine about that game enough on the WiiU, they give everyone the 3DS one to play. Really awkward. This whole event has crashed and burned. Is it because there are too many fans now and they can't accommodate everyone so they figured why not make it smaller? Or are there no fans anymore?
I really don't see the big stink being kicked up. I'm not even remotely mad. It's a cool E3 event, what were you guys expecting? Something of the scope and scale of the event 25 years ago?
That's completely unrealistic and it's on you for the following "disappointment."
I'm sure the event will still be fun to watch leading up to E3.
This is so dumb Nintendo. You can't even keep the leaderboards running on the Wii-U version of the NWC. You could have thrown in something from Splatoon and Mario 3D World, and maybe a Smash Bros or Mario Kart track, and rent out venues in 30 cities to host the competitions, but you had to be all lame-O and put zero effort into this.
I'll just stick to playing my NWC 1990 and NCC 1991 repros from RetroUSB.
@Shy_Guy I'm up in the UP. Wait, why are you laughing?
@Vineleaf You have my condolences. You practically live in South Canada.
@Jayvir At least then we'd have more Tim Hortons. Don't even have that.
Oh, and it snowed this morning.
@gojiguy FINALLY, someone with sense about it. Yeah, I wish there was a Best Buy closer to me holding this, but I'm not gonna get mad about it. I completely agree with you.
Man TW, thats one depressing headline and accompanying article. Much like my "lame" post yesterday, but sincere. Sinecerly depressing.
And for all the people in Michigan, nobody cares about bailout country, Nintendo is probably afraid to go to Detroit, and Grand Rapids is in now way "big".
My sister has lived in Lansing for about 20 years, Im a big Lugnuts fan, but nobody really expects Nintendo to care about Michigan, sorry.
@BLPs
LOL 1up for you!
@Shy_Guy - Michigan is well represented on Nintendo Life today........
They probably should have allowed a couple online wild card participants to win trips to E3 to help make it more accessible but it still will be an awesome thing for the 8 winners
Last year's E3 Smash Tournament was a lot of fun to watch. And that was 100% invitation only.
This year, they open it up to the public to have a chance to compete and people are upset? Anyways, even if it was 29 cities, people would still complain.
Personally, I am more interested in watching the competition on the 14 than having a chance to participate. Even if it was in my city, I doubt I would be good enough to win. I also imagine that the people who are good enough/serious enough about this, would travel to their nearest location to participate.
It is more than anybody else in the industry is doing.
Geez, Nintendo is bad at everything lately. It's almost like they don't want us to pay attention to E3 this year.
To be completely fair, Nintendo never promised anything large. It was the fans that overhyped it to be something it's not. Look at other non-Nintendo fan sites or search "Nintendo World Championships" on Twitter, and you'll find plenty of people excited about this, minus the small amount of locations.
This is essentially another case of "Nintendo Direct Syndrome", where the fans overhype something and have too high of expectations, expecting something they were never promised in the first place.
Oh who cares it'll be fun, maybe it will lead to a bigger tournament thing next year.
@IceClimbers
Exactly!
@IceClimbers
Ha, Nintendo Direct Syndrome.
"Nintendo told us stuff, therefore it's automatically good news and it proves the naysayers wrong!!"
This was the reaction to a Direct that featured no new games and was punctuated largely by "we're just going to make lots more DLC."
So basically the guy who wrote this is upset because his Nintendo Championship fantasy (which was based no evidence, just blind optimism) isn't going to happen?
Cool.
Really, i am wondering if they kind of came up with the idea late and then just didn't have time to plan for it. Really, all these announcements for it to me just spell them rushing to get it all set up without much planning.
I'll miss the forest for the trees with this comment: I'm stunned that Nintendo is working with Best Buy on this. My Best Buy only has a nearly empty quarter shelf dedicated to Nintendo games, half of which are used Wii games. There is an appalling lack of offerings. So why Best Buy? Why?!?!
Okay, I know why only 8 locations is more germane, but had to get that off my chest.
@Quorthon Even worse when it's a 3DS Direct and Nintendo fans go wild with expectations for Metroid Prime 4 and a bunch of other Wii U games, then jump at Nintendo's throat when they focus on 3DS games in the Direct like they said they would.
They could have done more than 8 locations. While doing one at every Best Buy would be impossible, why couldnt they expand it to 16 or 24?! Or maybe even one in every state? That way everyone would at least be within a few hours of one.
As it is, the closest one to me is over 7 hours away if I drive. And it's in less than two weeks, so even if I were to try and go, I'd have to quickly make plans and ask off of work. I don't know about where you work, but a lot of places prefer you to ask off well in advance, and less than 2 weeks isn't that.
So while I initially had planned to probably have to drive about an hour to get to one, and gladly would have, 7 hours is way too much just to play NES Remix at Best Buy.
This really echoes the emotions of the diehard fans who get excited about Amiibo and limited edition hardware and then find out that there's almost no way to get ahold of them. Nintendo has been doing a great job building hype, but repeatedly "dropping the ball" is making a lot of their most loyal customers very bitter.
@gojiguy why is it unrealistic? Nintendo themselves hyped it up as if it were going to be like that event 25 years ago. Nintendo has more resources now than they did in 1990. This could easily have been a bigger thing than it is.
They could have run the first round entirely online and really opened things up.
@bizcuthammer Nintendo didn't "hype it up"- you did. That's how hype works.
I saw the E3 video, took in all the information, enjoyed it, and here I am reading about the best buy locations and the games playable and having a perfectly fine day. I expected it to only be select Best Buy locations, and I knew it couldn't be as big simply due to the time frames.
It's really not something to get angry about, guys. It's video games.
I hope you guys can still enjoy watching the event when it happens.
Did I read something wrong? I thought it said Ultimate NES Remix would be used for all but the final round which would feature "a variety of Nintendo games." That's what it said, right? Why is that bad?
I have to agree. NES Remix is such a wasted and lame choice. I like retro games, and they were great for the championships back in 1990, but the thing is back then they were actually new games. And a new championship deserves to have new games, with new memories.
I take issue with THAT more than the number of Best Buy locations. Of course I do believe this is something that should have been announced months ago and allowed many more qualifying tournaments before hand.
With all that said, it's better than nothing. And I'll definitely be watching this E3.
Well, my hype for the NWC is slowly crawling up after it horribly crashed this morning. I guess I'll just stay tuned to the finals on May 30th, but I'm definitely not holding my hopes up high for a "one-of-a-kind" event.
The number of Best Buy stores participating is abysmal, though. Only 8 out of a thousand shops?! Oh well.
Makes sense that they want to streamline the Championship - too many qualifying posts would make the balance rather unfair with average players in outpost towns getting Finals spots over more densily populated areas with larger talent pools.
@BLPs
Nailed it, but allow me to stick my two cents on before I go. I live in Utah (COMBO BREAKER!) and I think last year we had like maybe one Best Buy do the Smash Event. So in all honesty while I was hyped, I kinda expect disappointment as video game fan in SLC, its not a huge city by any stretch of the imagination, but we could get the bone thrown our way occasionally!!! So yes, while a little disappointing, I will live. And who knows??? Maybe if this one is a huge success in those 8 areas, maybe we'll see a much larger one next year. Seriously people, we need a little less doom and gloom around here!
@BLPs Ah, your comment needs more + 1s.
@rjejr Detroit isn't even big at this point.....but Michigan still is awesome
Seriously if you have the event in Chicago, Pittsburg, Cincinnati, Cleveland, any are close enough for the bulk of Michigan to make it to if they want and still easily available to other states but metro Detroit is a tough sell because of the geography. We just aren't centrally located for anyone other then Michigan.
@JaxonH that truly is the more puzzling aspect of this and the fact that they aren't utilizing and showcasing the Wii U's library.
I don't get the outrage.
I think it's important to remember that the Ultimate NES Remix is just for the qualifiers. The actual event will be using several games according to Nintendo. We'll have to wait and see, but I think it will be interesting.
Though there will be less people, I think a big part of it will be watching the event online. More people can watch it without going to the actual event, and I think that's what Nintendo might be aiming for.
@BLPs you sir, are a scholar and a saint. Well said.
It's muted because the Wii U is muted, Nintendo are not the world champions they once were. So let's just sit back and enjoy it - here's hoping for a well presented and organized final.
@IceClimbers 100% agree Nintendo never really promised anything. Plus people seem to constantly ignore that this is just the qualifying round and there will be multiple games for the finals. Also you cant expect them to be everywhere you know. I amguessing they went with NES Remix because it has the closest resemblence to the original NWC game plus its more controlled and more difficult to cheat. Seriously you people were expecting them to have Smash Bros and freaking Splatoon?
First off Smash had a tournament last year so having it again would just be redundant
Splatoon still is a relatively unproven IP and then there would be the hassle of organizing teams
Also BLP hit the nail on the head as well I honestly dont know why I keep coming back to this site sometimes it feels like there are so many damn pessimists, doom sayers, and negative nancys who spout the same regurgitated spiel we have heard over a million times now its practically like a broken record
Honestly I do think this is just a result of Nintendo Direct syndrome
The only thing I'm a little dissapointed in is the fact that their using NES Remix. And ONLY using that.
I was thinking that we'd get Mario Kart 8, Super Mario 3D World, Hyrule Warriors, Super Smash Bros., or heck, maybe even a Splatoon bonus round or something.
But NES Remix and only that? Let alone, the 3DS version?
Nope, not for me.
@DBPirate Apparantly reading comprehension is hard for people here on the internet
this is incredibly disappointing. why does Nintendo never seem to do the things that could help them make money? this could have been the gaming event of the year, now it's nothing
Loving the reactions from all our fuming American brethren - upset cos the qualifiers aren't in your backyard!? Well noone's handing out free trips to California over here in Europe! Guess those of you who forwhatever reason cannot make the interstate road trip will have to watch it all from the couch like the rest of us.
I think it was a poor choice for Nintendo to compare this to the previous world championships, but with only a very limited number of shops and using NES Remix games instead of modern games. Perhaps giving this a different name to the Nintendo World Championships would have left less people disappointed, but the name did a good job of getting people talking about this and building hype. It still feels like a missed opportunity and there's plenty more Nintendo could have done with this.
Look at it this way, in a couple of years who's gonna give a flying f*@#k? Good for those that can get to it. I live in Finland and do I have the face of someone who gives a sh*t whether I get to participate or not? NOPE: It's up to Ninty how they do this and whether the make a clusterf*@ck of it or not. Just be happy for those that get the chance. C'est la vie!
@BLPs spot on!
Nintendolife need to quote that at the end of of their Articles, save us having to read Q's bullsh#t
@FLUX_CAPACITOR I'm aware of your Nation's vast scale, dude. Even so, an 8hour drive (shall we call it a road trip?) is considerably more viable than a cross Atlantic flight to attend (each round!) of these events for us much neglected Europeans. All things considered, your gas prices are so low right now, I'd be all over that if I lived in your neck of the woods.
lol because it's completely realistic for Nintendo to host an event that was as large back when they were at the peak of their popularity. durrrr.
@PokeMario I for one I am very disappointed, I live in Dallas so I will be doing the qualifiers, but if I understand correctly it will be 8 regular players, and then 8 invited players that are professional and/or celebrity, they are making a mockery of themselves by even comparing it to the previous championship. I mean I am 35 years old, it almost seems like Nintendo is phoning it in for the rest of the Wii U cycle
Maybe Nintendo's just testing the waters.
@Wolfgabe You have a point there.
@BLPs that was beautiful. Well done, sir!
@BLPs Ha! Well said. If only there was a way to thumbs up your comment.
Well said, @BLP but the only criticism I have is not nearly enough words in bold type
Anyhoot given it's an E3 event, I didn't really expect them to go all out, but it makes sense to start off small and if it's a rousing success, they can go bigger in subsequent years. I have to agree with @JaxonH in that Remix 3DS was a really odd choice. If you had to do that game, at least make it the Wii U version.
If Nintendo have no time to develop a Wii U remix of current games, they could have used the SM3DW time trials or even Tropical Freeze, as the latter would have tied back to the Donkey Kong Country tourney they had at Blockbuster Video way back when.
Just make it invitation only if hardly anyone can participate. They hyped it up quite a bit and then scaled it back by 1,000. Lame.
@Danrenfroe2016 Fair enough, I think they are trying to do something different and are just using the same title for namesake purposes.
@Jayvir Agreed. The nearest event from me is almost 1000 miles. Needless to say, I won't be attending. It's strange that there is no event in Denver, as it is one of the major cities in the midwest. It's still 200+ miles away from me but I would definitely consider attending.
Also why is a competition this big (in Nintendo's eyes) not on Wii U? Seems like a major championship should be held on a home console, not a handheld. Plus the Wii U needs more publicity (although I don't think anyone, except for hardcore Nintendo fans who probably already own a Wii U, will care about the World Championships).
They definitely missed the ball on this one. However the Best Buys will certainly be crowded all day so Nintendo will undoubtedly use the successful attendance numbers in a future press release, even though they could have had a lot more if they did a few more stores.
Considering they are using something as simple as NES Remix, why not make a small free downloadable one-time use app for 3DS & Wii U that allows contestants to enter, play for a high score and then automatically upload to Nintendo. They could still do the cities for anyone who doesn't have a console but the app would allow everyone who has a 3DS or Wii U a shot. People who really want to enter but don't have either machine could either go to the public competitions or ''gasp'' buy a 3DS or Wii U (it would be their choice). Either way, it allows everyone a shot and turns it into an actual "world" championship. Not sure about everyone else but that seems like a cheap efficient way to give the fans access to the competition. Just a thought
@mjc0961 No, his comment was right on the money. People on here, myself included, have kept spouting the same discussion/argument over and over again for the past few months. In retrospect, it does seem like a broken record. Having legitimate gripes with Nintendo is one thing, but we've gotten to the point where it's just doom and gloom talk that we've all heard a million times now, and it's rather unnecessary.
I'm all for healthy discussion of things, but let's mix things up. Constant doom and gloom talk hurts Nintendo more than it helps them at this point. A lot of us could be better about pointing out the positives in things as well as the negatives.
I'm stoked about this, my fiance and I got off work that Monday and we're driving 400 miles to Illinois! Nintendo Road Trip!
@mjc0961 I'm not sure I'd say his comment was insulting, seeing that he is an active user of this site, he is probably sick of seeing all the negative comments that seem to appear on many articles (I'll admit even though I try to stay positive I've had my share of the negative comments and was probably too harsh in them, whether they were directed at Nintendo or another company). It does get a bit redundant seeing so many comments spewing negativity towards Nintendo. He probably could have given the same message without the sarcastic tone used in his comment, but I wouldn't necessarily call anyone who agrees with his statement a "fanboy".
@BLPs Not that Nintendo would ever do exactly what you said. Especially if those last lines spell out either sarcasm, out-of-context and/or unnecessary. Seriously, toast with corn flakes? Was that really appropriate?
It's entirely up to Nintendo as a company to do what they believe or think is worth making a profit. Them being outright self-destructive? Let them be, the backlash from their fans and supporters, and the consequences of their decisions should serve as an eye-opener for them; if not, let them dig themselves deeper. Can't stand their decisions both in marketing and game development but still playing their games? Drop all support and place them on Sony and M$ if you think they can do no wrong. Tired with gaming already? Good, then find or do something that is really time-worthy and more productive. Seriously, just what exactly do you see in gaming?
I can go on and repeat myself to any pessimistic person, including myself, about this. But them going third party like Sega? Unlikely to happen for as long as they have the money in making more hardware and have made money through other fields, like toys, cards and the recently announced theme park.
@gojiguy They... kind of hyped it up with their E3 information video. Like look what Reggie did in it to "get ready". They had a whole kind of "pump" video for it's announcement that they were bringing something back after 25 years.
These reaction are too good to be true. I'm surprise people excepted any less.
With the qualifers on the 3DS I have to wonder if this is even worth watching- I live only a few miles away from one of the locations. Unless they have something special set up I would only be watching contestants staring down at their screens throughout the day. I can see enough of that just stepping outside... Anyway, I wouldn't participate myself because:
1) I was never a top player and now my reflexes are older and slower
2) I am otherwise engaged the day of the final round in the 0.0000000001% chance I actually won the local preliminary
Actually, I did win a local TG-16 play challenge once. I actually came in 3rd the first day, and won the second but was still a little miffed that it was because the 1st-place player the night before (yes we both competed again) got a lower score and my own still didn't beat his from the day before.
I'm not so bothered by the number of locations as I am by the selection of NES Remix.
Ah well, it is a missed opportunity. They can still put on a fun show, though. Hopefully whoever hosts it does a good job, and doesn't 'McHale' it.
I can just repeat the words that fit on pretty much everything Nintendo has been doing in the last 3-4 years: "Wasted potential" That's why I'm very pessimistic on Mario Maker. It's something that could be the greatest thing ever but I just know that these two words will probably be fitting for that one too. :/
@BLPs The reason people are repeating themselves is because Nintendo has been repeating the same mistakes and just doesn't learn anything...The doom and gloom is coming from the fact that they keep on going down the route they are going right now and lose the connection to consumer even further.
I never expected anything huge. To the average gaming consumer Nintendo is pretty much a has been. Hell, I still expect far less than was speculated.
I do have a lot of love for Nintendo but they seriously have to rebrand their outdated image that no one apart from its hardcore fans cares about.
Great another event I'm skipping on Nintendo's E3. I thought the treehouses were enough for me to skip...
I'm feeling guilty that one is near my house. I just consider myself lucky and there marketing scheme worked on me because I just bought the Nes Remix on 3DS. I can't wait to get that nerdy pin. Heck, I have been practicing maybe I can win(cross my fingers). I just need to play this game 24/7. After all, I'm in training. My body may not be ready but my fingers will be. Wish me luck everyone. Please don't hate on me.
How on earth would it be worth the money to have it nationwide?
I sense that many had way-too-high expectations of this event.
@rjejr I live literally 5 mins away from downtown Detroit. My area's not bad but i wouldn't want to move a little further north from here.
Should have done some sort of online thing somehow instead.
This is just silly.
I think once again people are jumnping to conclusions you assume this wont be noteworthy at all because of the fact they are using NES Remix despite the fact they clearly stated this would be the qualifying round and that there will a bigger variety at the finals. The reason its not online is because of the potential risk of cheaters and that its much more difficult to cheat in a more controlled environment. Also you people seem to forget Nintendo is not really at the top of pile like they were in the 90's In a way this event reflects that
@Spoony_Tech - It's late, go to bed.
I know Detroit is survivng it's banckrupty, but if I just started naming 8 cities off the top of my head I don't see Detroit being one of them. If they were doing 25 then yes.
New York
Dallas
Philly
Boston
St Louis
Chi-town
Denver
San Fran
LA
Miaimi
Cincy
Austen (I dont know why, there's always stuff in Austen TX)
Whatever mid-west city Mall of America is in (begins w/ an M)
Seattle
I'd have Detroit 2nd tier w/ Houston, Phoenix, Albuquerque, Pitt, N Orleans, San Diego
8 cities isn't a lot. That's on Nintnedo, not me.
@JaxonH - "I have to agree. NES Remix is such a wasted and lame choice."
Look, we agreed again. Though I posted that yesterday, dont' remember where I even used the word "lame". Too late to find though, maybe tomroow, I'm exhausted.
@Gerbwmu - I think I covered most of those cities in reply #95.
3DS? So I'm guessing that people with human sized hands need not apply?
@Jayvir While we're definitely cool, I wouldn't say Grand Rapids is all that "huge."
Yet.
I just wanted to be post #100.
This is the same half-hearted offering I see in anything Nintendo of America tries to do. No bang, just whimper.
I didn't really care to begin with, so... eh.
All that matters to me is whether or not the E3 presentation will keep me on edge.
I resonate everything in this article. i fond it continually ridiculous that fans are able to see obvious plans for many scenarios that manufacturers do not. This could of been a huge opportunity for Nintendo, It still might be but when something hasnt been around for 25 years and the fever for it is still there then its pretty obvious you need to capitalise on its popularity.
I can only think the plans were drawn up extremely last minute. Nintendo themselves have run much, MUCH larger tournaments than this.
I'm sure they'll get their fair share of promotion done at the finals, with some Mario Maker action at the very least, but now it really just comes off as a very limited competition for 8 people to win a place alongside Nintendo on stage while they show off their games, rather than an actual Tournanent.
@gojiguy Couldn't agree more, with both your posts.
It's a pity alright.
After thinking about it, I think I understand why the number of stores is this low and the game is such a dud...
Nintendo wants to present itself as the alternative, the game company that appeals to everyone, but in presenting itself casual they overshoot it (again) and the counter themselves.... E.g.:
If Nintendo wants to present itself as THE alternative, they should EMBRACE the competitive scene.
Why? Because they are masters at making simple games that anyone can understand! We all know it and that's why we all hate the way this event is going!!! A lot of people play DOTA, but many more don't understand it. Everybody understands the endgame of Super Mario, Starfox...
I mean come on Nintendo, you say couch multiplayer is what (should) drive(s) people at home to play videogames. You know what the world championships are? One big frakkin couch multiplayer with hundreds of people watching!!
Imagine this:
Jezus Nintendo, I'm in the mood to organise something like this on my own now....
Yeah, personally I was hoping for something that was actually at least as big as the original 1990a Nintendo World Championships. I mean it's now 2015 and surely they could do everything bigger and better, so why not. I mean why not actually make this something genuinely spectacular and show-stopping; an actual major event, like the original.
To me, this is a great example of what I've been trying to describe as the "New" Nintendo vs the old Nintendo. In the past, the NES and SNES eras and even the N64 era to a degree, Nintendo very rarely disappointed and in fact a lot of the time it went above and beyond, like releasing an actual frikin movie as basically a way to promote Super Mario Bros 3. The game, the movie, the "Mario! Mario! Mario!" ad. Now THAT was genuinely brilliant and it delivered! These days it just keeps hinting at potential greatness and then never quite realising any of it.
Nintendo keeps selling itself and its potential short these days, time and time again, and I think THAT is why it's will continue to struggle to excite the majority of modern gamers and especially when it comes to winning back those "lapsed" Nintendo fans, who remember what Nintendo is truly capable of and simply want to see that Nintendo again before they get truly excited.
"Nintendo World Championships"
Should be renamed 'Nintendo US Championships' or 'Nintendo Only-One-Country-of-the-World Championships'...
@IceClimbers They actually promised Zelda, than delayed it, so they (nintendo) have been hyping this specific e3 for nearly a year now. I think the fans have the right to be a little dissapointed.
I'm going into E3 with very low expectations from Nintendo, they've made too many mistakes recently. That way I won't be hugely disappointed.
@SirQuincealot A little? It's the Nintendo cycle. Fans skyrocket expectations then overblow the situation when Nintendo doesn't give them what they want. Is this disappointing? Perhaps, but it's not any doom or gloom for Nintendo.
Regardless of how disappointed you are, gamers and fans will still participate.
@BLPs Best comment ever. Well played sir.
@BLPs Very well said. I'm tired of hearing all this pessimism on the site.
@Grumblevolcano Isn't that what happened before last year's E3? You know, with Nintendo making mistakes (only two retail titles for Wii U), and the appearance of not having anything but Smash? People went in with low expectations last year too....
Wait, I think I got it! Nintendo is purposely making themselves look bad in the run up to E3 to make their presentation look even better!
did you guys really expected a huge national cross event? how so?
Nintendo, at this moment, is on "fan boy" mode which it means everything is to catter to Nintendo fanboys, hence the amiibos (collectable figurines), anime/manga games (fire emblem x shin megamwhatever and xenoblade), DLC instead of new content and the "resurrection" of an old name that is 25 years old.
And in case you didn't notice, Nintendo fanboys are a minority. Why spend millions of dollars in something that will only catter to a handful of gamers? is ridiculous.
@IceClimbers Well there was one key thing which was a huge disappointment from E3 last year, the existence of the 4 month game drought between Mario Kart 8 and Hyrule Warriors. That same thing could still happen this year (3 months for Europe because of Yoshi in late June), with Nintendo using the strategy of Splatoon being an incomplete package at launch to try and make up for it.
I live in Detroit myself (didn't know so many metro Detroit and Michigan people were in here) and it's disappointing to know that even if I wanted to participate in this, I'd have to get to Schaumburg, IL. Would it really have been that hard to have like, everyone else who has an internet connection, compete between certain times, and let those be the qualifiers for the final round(s)? I get that it's celebrating the spirit of the NWC1990, but damn, we don't have to still have a tourney by those "day's standards", do we?
@MikeW They'll probably announce Ultimate SNES Remix for New 3ds with a Winter 2015 release date.
Everyone's tone is overblowned. Look at Fred Savage he had to travel so many miles to compete. Sure there is one close to my house, but this is for E3. You need to get a hold of yourselves. It is not the end of the world. The only thing I find disappointing with Nintendo is the VCs. I love their games and you all do too. So get over it and get hyped for E3.
I'm not sure 8 USA locations counts as a world championship ?
@bherdm That's the spirit!
Say it with me!..."CALIFORRNNIIIAAA!!"
I don't mind them using the retro games, although I wasn't surprised when the full details were given. There are plenty of things they can do to make this better.
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