Other companies, I would say this is about streamlining and such. But not EA. This can only be to have a controlled environment so they aren't shouted off the stage when they announce their next perversion of what gamers want.
Is Activision still doing one? They took a beating at they're own con doing the same thing.
Looking back, I'd say Xbox one's multimedia stance was culturally too soon (people weren't ready for it) and technically too late (smart TVs scooped most of the functionality it was adding). I don't see what's in it for Nintendo besides access to titles Microsoft publishes. Is that enough?
...Or is this how the industry evolving away from proprietary hardware happens? Microsoft makes a streaming only box that can download eShop stuff, Nintendo makes their next console compatible to double as an MS streaming box.
The more cartoon the character the more they always suffer from this treatment. Except for Kirby because what realistic thing do you do besides make him out of soft stuff? DK's alright but I want to nitpick on Peach.
Two questions: 1) do the other regions get exclusive gear of their own? 2) Can people order the exclusive gear in-game? If the answer is no to both then we have a problem. Splatoon is one of the few reasons Nintendo's online service is worthwhile to gamers. They should be making sure those experiences are as misery free as possible.
Normally I'm annoyed by year-to-year metrics because they're usually based on the business world's obsession with an out of context demand to always do better.
Maybe Nintendo is going to look keep an eye on Starlink's races to gauge interest in a full Starfox GP. It wouldn't be the first time they made full games off another's alternate game modes.
Wow, Gavin apparently has feelings about 3DS support now. Even if it is just waiting for the official cut off, let it have it's darn swan song. Not all of us throw out our old systems and games when the next thing comes around.
@SwitchForce Did you actually read the article? It was marveling that Amiibo is successful despite all other toys-to-life series had failed and died. Starlink was called out by name.
It's too bad about Starlink. They were the only T2L series that felt like actual toys. So much so that could've run it as a toy line first. Just imagine, replace the controller dock with a powered handle that knows the attachments and played appropriate voice and sound effects with button presses (basically what Kamen Rider has been doing forever). Then turn around and go "those toys that are already around? Use this little controller dock and our tie-in game actually uses them!"
But they botched the launch pretty hard and wanted too much for more pieces. I didn't go after more until the drop.
It's a wise move to hold on to it as a would be budget system. But it's not really being supported, just kept alive. Without new works, it's existing on the strength of it's back catalog.
@coned I was drawing from the armloads of titles they release every week the store. It doesn't have to be a hard 30, but are you honestly content with 3? Moreover, there has been talk of them expanding to other systems so they have plenty of titles to work with.
First of all, they never should've made online multiplayer part of the deal this generation. They pushed rolling it out for so long it became gating something we used to have. It's not even a huge loss for me, but it still cheeses me off. It's just not how you make friends. If there were signs of marked improvements to online play then I'd consider it a fair trade, but if it's there I haven't heard of it. In fact Splatoon's issues have been getting worse.
Now then. If they really want to sweeten the deal; open up the VC library! Drip feeding made sense when VC was a side hustle in the store, but as a library you pay to access it'd be okay to throw down 30+ titles a month. Oh, and I keep referring to it as Virtual Console because it should preserve the stuff we enjoyed from VC. I have no idea if save states and such aren't already there, but such things should NEVER feel like a lesser of features we enjoyed in the past.
Okay... I'm curious. I guess. I can't get hyped to just the promise of "something", I'd like to know if it's even in my wheelhouse of interests.
The problem with unannounced games is they are also unhypeable games. They've driven the internet wild with title screens. Oh wait... I just made myself sad.
Yeah, fine okay, you want something locked in first. But if they're coming this year there must be something tangible to see by now.
If Nintendo had a better account system I wouldn't mind a personal version of the Switch. But this is Nintendo, so to get your games on it from the console version or vise versa, you probably have to purge all trace of your stuff on one of them, because Nintendo has zero concept of a game system being shared and how that comfortably works. They came closest with Wii U and 3DS, but that was entirely on accident.
If they have it they certainly should. It would be a nice salve to distract from the fact their first crack at MP4 is officially going down in flames before it took off.
Okay, good to lock in the cast if they're that confident they have a winner. They definitely got the look of a Pokemon world down, but I'm going to be giving a hard stink-eye if they don't sell how battles work in a realistic world.
Please don't. I like Mario Run, you can that's not what he's talking about. "Continuous stream of revenue" means one thing, whale hunting. And no game made to court whales is good for non-whales. Ever. It's tolerated on smartphones because they're literally giving you the game for free. They're still just as bad design wise as AAA games trying to ape it. Either game play is deficient without a constant infusion of money, or there's some attractive element that's requires actual gambling to engage with it. Or the do both and said element is integral on some level. Nothing about these designs are nice to the consumer. It looks lush now because there's been plenty of whales in the sea, but like AAAs making games so expensive only record-breaking success counts as breaking even, the monetization method will someday hit the wall.
I remember the article talking about how the culture at Nintendo and Japan in general worked, and as an America I found it horrifying. I can totally see a creator with a strong sense of independence wouldn't slot in their. Hope he learned some useful lessons from them at least
If there is an absolute wrong choice to make, these guys will make it.
Part of it is ye olde rock and a hard place. They have to present themselves as confident, even when behind the scenes they are in full panic mode. This wasn't an "I don't know about this" they could gradually win over with full reveal and movement, this was a flat out NO.
Sonic is a cartoon character, he does well as a cartoon character. Un-cartooning a cartoon character is a delicate process. People are only now realizing now how eff'd up some Pokemon would look in the flesh and that's paying close attention to their actual designs.
When you opt to redesign it, it says you have no confidence in the original material. Which says you don't know what was so appealing about the design in the first place. Which says you don't know what you're doing.
Wow, thinking about it, you never hear about the goings on with Nintendo branches outside the big three (and sometimes Australia). After the mess with this jerk (and cronies?) is settled, I suspect RU and other locations with a lot more outward facing.
I get they want to push the Switch, but there should be more energy toward 3DS than keeping it around and a token game now and again. There is plenty of stuff on the Switch eShop, that could perform fine on 3DS and given the scaling of some designs I bet they were originally intended to.
Please don't go too deep down this rabbit hole. Straight forward DLC is the gateway drug to harder monetization strategies.
Nintendo already sniffing at season passes, saying you could quit any time. But they never do. If they start convoluting pre-ordering with alternate bonuses, we will need to have an intervention.
If we do nothing, they'll be just like the other AAA junkies. Gutting or compromising their titles' content and mechanics, financially abusing their users, all for their shareholders next fix because no amount of sales are enough anymore.
Three games per month is a joke and a sham. If they had offered the spread of their existing virtual consoles from the start, even just the NES stuff, I might have been moved.
Safe to say the mass outrage made them decide to reveal it. But was this always the plan and they didn't "think" it was a selling point (plausible since Nintendo sometimes does seem to understand the common folk) or did they quickly add it?
I can see why, but considering Nintendo is abandoning the values that handhelds used to harbor (less power, but cheaper to buy and develop for), I would've figured there was still a viable market to be exploited. I know plenty (including Nintendo) feel the Switch covers that void, but as a handheld it is the most delicate thing they have ever created. If I had a Switch back when I had my gameboy it would've been dead within a year. Nevermind the cost makes "each person has their own" prohibitive.
The game plagued the absolute most by people abusing it is not getting cloud back ups because people might abuse it. At this point just let us have it. We already know you aren't doing jack to make it any better.
Sigh. It's not a bad lineup, but we already got thorough NES libraries on our 3DS, Wii, Wii U, and NES minis (with and without modification). And what is the point of drip feeding them? Again? This is a service; you're already getting money upfront.
At first I wanted to bemoan them going to the dark side, especially after ignoring all the good sides of internet resources (a very Nintendo thing to do). But then I started thinking, his words may have a different read.
I'm not sure he's entirely encouraging them to embrace it so much as telling them to be mindful of it and learn to adapt to the presence of subscription services in their world.
Huh, I wonder if there's going to be fanfare with each system Switch surpasses. Gamecube will be easy and N64 is likely before it's lifespan peters out. If it takes the SNES I'll be incredibly impressed. After that it's the one that had a decade to itself and the literal phenomenon that non-gamers thought was cool.
Smash character reveals are as smart and tactful as Overwatch's character movies. More so with Smash because the pastiche of Nintendoness is like snippets of the Emissary sequel we never got. Everytime is such a rush of joy. This show did it's job reinforcing how ultimate this version of the title is really going to be. I long for an on disc version of this the soundtrack (I suspect they'll probably never bother with a buyable electronic version -they made the Switch do it).
Comments 864
Re: EA Replacing Its Press Conference With Multiple Live Streams At This Year's E3
Other companies, I would say this is about streamlining and such. But not EA. This can only be to have a controlled environment so they aren't shouted off the stage when they announce their next perversion of what gamers want.
Is Activision still doing one? They took a beating at they're own con doing the same thing.
Re: Random: Here's What The Game Boy Might Look Like If It Was Designed Today
It's a lovely design, though I'm not crazy about the flat a button and circle D-pad.
Re: New Nintendo Labo Kit Introduces VR Gaming On Switch This April
The best part is that all of these things were part of the initial reveal and none of us thought about VR as the application.
Re: Guide: The Best Value amiibo For Your Nintendo Switch
That reminds me, I never tracked down a Callie or Marie. I'm so close to going Splatoon complete.
Re: Detective Pikachu Concept Artist Draws Realistic Sobble From Pokémon Sword And Shield
It leans too real animal to feel right. I'm sure if they did get into the movie(s) they would give them a lot more passes to feel right.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo And Microsoft Working Together Isn't As Crazy As You Think
Looking back, I'd say Xbox one's multimedia stance was culturally too soon (people weren't ready for it) and technically too late (smart TVs scooped most of the functionality it was adding).
I don't see what's in it for Nintendo besides access to titles Microsoft publishes. Is that enough?
...Or is this how the industry evolving away from proprietary hardware happens? Microsoft makes a streaming only box that can download eShop stuff, Nintendo makes their next console compatible to double as an MS streaming box.
Re: God Of War's Art Director Is Still Posting Incredible Realistic Smash Ultimate Designs
The more cartoon the character the more they always suffer from this treatment. Except for Kirby because what realistic thing do you do besides make him out of soft stuff? DK's alright but I want to nitpick on Peach.
Re: Splatoon 2's #GearForAll Social Media Movement Fights Exclusive Japanese Content
Two questions:
1) do the other regions get exclusive gear of their own?
2) Can people order the exclusive gear in-game?
If the answer is no to both then we have a problem. Splatoon is one of the few reasons Nintendo's online service is worthwhile to gamers. They should be making sure those experiences are as misery free as possible.
Re: Early NPD Figures Suggest Nintendo Outperformed The Competition In January
Normally I'm annoyed by year-to-year metrics because they're usually based on the business world's obsession with an out of context demand to always do better.
So I'm glad this factored in practical meanings.
Re: Random: The Conspiracy Chatter Is Growing: Maybe There Is No Star Fox Grand Prix
Maybe Nintendo is going to look keep an eye on Starlink's races to gauge interest in a full Starfox GP. It wouldn't be the first time they made full games off another's alternate game modes.
Re: Feature: Please Understand: Unpacking Nintendo's Vision For Metroid Prime 4
Wow, Gavin apparently has feelings about 3DS support now. Even if it is just waiting for the official cut off, let it have it's darn swan song. Not all of us throw out our old systems and games when the next thing comes around.
Re: Feature: Just One More, Honest: The Unlikely Endurance Of amiibo
@SwitchForce Did you actually read the article? It was marveling that Amiibo is successful despite all other toys-to-life series had failed and died. Starlink was called out by name.
Re: Feature: Just One More, Honest: The Unlikely Endurance Of amiibo
It's too bad about Starlink. They were the only T2L series that felt like actual toys. So much so that could've run it as a toy line first. Just imagine, replace the controller dock with a powered handle that knows the attachments and played appropriate voice and sound effects with button presses (basically what Kamen Rider has been doing forever). Then turn around and go "those toys that are already around? Use this little controller dock and our tie-in game actually uses them!"
But they botched the launch pretty hard and wanted too much for more pieces. I didn't go after more until the drop.
Re: Nintendo Will Continue To Sell The 3DS, As Long As There Is Consumer Demand For It
It's a wise move to hold on to it as a would be budget system. But it's not really being supported, just kept alive. Without new works, it's existing on the strength of it's back catalog.
Re: Nintendo Planning Ways To "Boost The Appeal" Of Switch Online Service On A Yearly Basis
@coned I was drawing from the armloads of titles they release every week the store. It doesn't have to be a hard 30, but are you honestly content with 3? Moreover, there has been talk of them expanding to other systems so they have plenty of titles to work with.
Re: Nintendo Planning Ways To "Boost The Appeal" Of Switch Online Service On A Yearly Basis
First of all, they never should've made online multiplayer part of the deal this generation. They pushed rolling it out for so long it became gating something we used to have. It's not even a huge loss for me, but it still cheeses me off. It's just not how you make friends. If there were signs of marked improvements to online play then I'd consider it a fair trade, but if it's there I haven't heard of it. In fact Splatoon's issues have been getting worse.
Now then. If they really want to sweeten the deal; open up the VC library! Drip feeding made sense when VC was a side hustle in the store, but as a library you pay to access it'd be okay to throw down 30+ titles a month. Oh, and I keep referring to it as Virtual Console because it should preserve the stuff we enjoyed from VC. I have no idea if save states and such aren't already there, but such things should NEVER feel like a lesser of features we enjoyed in the past.
Re: Nintendo Confirms It Has Unannounced Titles Set To Launch This Year, Delays Not Anticipated
Okay... I'm curious. I guess.
I can't get hyped to just the promise of "something", I'd like to know if it's even in my wheelhouse of interests.
The problem with unannounced games is they are also unhypeable games. They've driven the internet wild with title screens. Oh wait... I just made myself sad.
Yeah, fine okay, you want something locked in first. But if they're coming this year there must be something tangible to see by now.
Re: Nintendo Has "Nothing To Announce" On The Rumours Of A Switch Mini
If Nintendo had a better account system I wouldn't mind a personal version of the Switch. But this is Nintendo, so to get your games on it from the console version or vise versa, you probably have to purge all trace of your stuff on one of them, because Nintendo has zero concept of a game system being shared and how that comfortably works. They came closest with Wii U and 3DS, but that was entirely on accident.
Re: Random: Looks Like Amazon Didn't Get The Memo About Metroid Prime 4
Since I made my preorder while Amazon Prime still gave video game discounts I don't mind.
Re: Splatoon 2 Hackers Are Disconnecting Opponents To Claim Victory In League Battles
If it turns out Nintendo is in fact cooking up a way to target and ban cheaters, I would happily throw money at their online service.
Re: Rumour: Metroid Prime Trilogy For Nintendo Switch Is Ready To Be Released
If they have it they certainly should. It would be a nice salve to distract from the fact their first crack at MP4 is officially going down in flames before it took off.
Re: Legendary Has Already Begun Work On A Detective Pikachu Sequel
Okay, good to lock in the cast if they're that confident they have a winner. They definitely got the look of a Pokemon world down, but I'm going to be giving a hard stink-eye if they don't sell how battles work in a realistic world.
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About The Metroid Prime 4 Delay?
I'm fine with this. I hope someday we get to see what they originally came up with. I'm sure unseen64's cancelled senses are tingling.
Re: Metroid Prime 4 Development Scrapped, Will Be Restarted Alongside Retro Studios
THIS is... kinda refreshing in a way.
It does raise the expectations for what is coming out though.
Re: Nintendo Spreads The Message About Blue Toad's Return To New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe
Nice, but why not take the opportunity to make it any color toad, or even Toad
Re: Random: Nintendo Confirms Only Toadette Can Wear The Super Crown, Bowsette Officially Debunked
Like that'll stop them
Re: Future Business Shift Could See Nintendo Move Away From Home Console Development
Please don't. I like Mario Run, you can that's not what he's talking about. "Continuous stream of revenue" means one thing, whale hunting. And no game made to court whales is good for non-whales. Ever.
It's tolerated on smartphones because they're literally giving you the game for free. They're still just as bad design wise as AAA games trying to ape it.
Either game play is deficient without a constant infusion of money, or there's some attractive element that's requires actual gambling to engage with it. Or the do both and said element is integral on some level. Nothing about these designs are nice to the consumer.
It looks lush now because there's been plenty of whales in the sea, but like AAAs making games so expensive only record-breaking success counts as breaking even, the monetization method will someday hit the wall.
Re: Downwell Creator Leaves Nintendo To Pursue Indie Development
I remember the article talking about how the culture at Nintendo and Japan in general worked, and as an America I found it horrifying. I can totally see a creator with a strong sense of independence wouldn't slot in their. Hope he learned some useful lessons from them at least
Re: Nintendo Switch Surpasses Lifetime PlayStation Vita Sales Within Japan
I'm not surprised. If anything I'm a touch worried Nintendo will misread this and do nothing to improve their eShop or online set up and such.
I recall once hearing talk Switch was designed to be gunning for Vita's stake in Japan (don't ask me why), so congrats?
Re: Sonic Movie Writer Tells Everyone To "Relax" After Poster Backlash
If there is an absolute wrong choice to make, these guys will make it.
Part of it is ye olde rock and a hard place. They have to present themselves as confident, even when behind the scenes they are in full panic mode. This wasn't an "I don't know about this" they could gradually win over with full reveal and movement, this was a flat out NO.
Re: The Upcoming Sonic Movie Has Received Its First Poster, And It's Strangely Muscular
Oh... What horrors have they created?
Sonic is a cartoon character, he does well as a cartoon character. Un-cartooning a cartoon character is a delicate process. People are only now realizing now how eff'd up some Pokemon would look in the flesh and that's paying close attention to their actual designs.
When you opt to redesign it, it says you have no confidence in the original material. Which says you don't know what was so appealing about the design in the first place. Which says you don't know what you're doing.
Re: Sakurai Reveals Why Kirby Was The Only One Who Survived The Smash Ultimate Apocalypse
Basically what Lockstin said on Gnoggin.
Re: Feature: Inside The Twisted And Abusive Culture Of Yasha Haddaji's Nintendo Russia
Wow, thinking about it, you never hear about the goings on with Nintendo branches outside the big three (and sometimes Australia). After the mess with this jerk (and cronies?) is settled, I suspect RU and other locations with a lot more outward facing.
Re: Reggie Defends Continued Support Of 3DS Line, Believes Next Gen Of Players Need To Start Somewhere
I get they want to push the Switch, but there should be more energy toward 3DS than keeping it around and a token game now and again. There is plenty of stuff on the Switch eShop, that could perform fine on 3DS and given the scaling of some designs I bet they were originally intended to.
Re: It Looks Like Nintendo's Generous Supply Of Post-Release Game Content Is Set To Continue
Please don't go too deep down this rabbit hole. Straight forward DLC is the gateway drug to harder monetization strategies.
Nintendo already sniffing at season passes, saying you could quit any time. But they never do. If they start convoluting pre-ordering with alternate bonuses, we will need to have an intervention.
If we do nothing, they'll be just like the other AAA junkies. Gutting or compromising their titles' content and mechanics, financially abusing their users, all for their shareholders next fix because no amount of sales are enough anymore.
Re: Switch Online Is Going To Be The Place To Play Classic Nintendo Content, According To Reggie
Three games per month is a joke and a sham. If they had offered the spread of their existing virtual consoles from the start, even just the NES stuff, I might have been moved.
Re: The 8BitDo GBros. Lets You Wirelessly Connect Your Battered GameCube Controller To Switch
I do believe I would like that. Only way this could be better is if you use both ports at once.
Re: Random: Is The Bowsette Movement Finally Over? Guitarist Rosalina Is Your Next Obsession
No item or anything involved. I feel this is just personality. I could see my girl just kicking back in her civvies with an acoustic.
Re: Nintendo Keeps Switch Online Cloud Saves For 180 Days After Membership Expiry
Safe to say the mass outrage made them decide to reveal it.
But was this always the plan and they didn't "think" it was a selling point (plausible since Nintendo sometimes does seem to understand the common folk) or did they quickly add it?
Re: Sony Will Step Away From The Handheld Games Business In 2019, Leaving It All To Nintendo
I can see why, but considering Nintendo is abandoning the values that handhelds used to harbor (less power, but cheaper to buy and develop for), I would've figured there was still a viable market to be exploited. I know plenty (including Nintendo) feel the Switch covers that void, but as a handheld it is the most delicate thing they have ever created.
If I had a Switch back when I had my gameboy it would've been dead within a year. Nevermind the cost makes "each person has their own" prohibitive.
Re: Soapbox: Nintendo's Excuses Regarding Cloud Saves Aren't Good Enough
The game plagued the absolute most by people abusing it is not getting cloud back ups because people might abuse it. At this point just let us have it. We already know you aren't doing jack to make it any better.
Re: Nintendo Reveals Upcoming NES Game Releases For Switch Online Service
Sigh. It's not a bad lineup, but we already got thorough NES libraries on our 3DS, Wii, Wii U, and NES minis (with and without modification). And what is the point of drip feeding them? Again? This is a service; you're already getting money upfront.
Re: Shigeru Miyamoto Urges Game Developers To Embrace Subscription-Based Services
At first I wanted to bemoan them going to the dark side, especially after ignoring all the good sides of internet resources (a very Nintendo thing to do). But then I started thinking, his words may have a different read.
I'm not sure he's entirely encouraging them to embrace it so much as telling them to be mindful of it and learn to adapt to the presence of subscription services in their world.
Re: Daemon X Machina Producer Believes A Lot Of Modern Games Look The Same
In the immediate present, I'd say it's not too bad. But a few years back when COD-alikes were king it was noticeable.
Re: Hardware Review: Satisfye Pro Gaming Grip for Nintendo Switch
I hope somebody designs an asymmetrical grip for just the joycons. I never felt good about the little square grip.
Re: Gallery: Enjoy These Hyperactive Images From Hyper Sports R For Switch
Looks good. Though they ended on an unflattering pic of rendering without shoes. Her poor ankles.
Re: Patrick Stewart Stars In My Memory Of Us, A Puzzle-Story Game Headed To Switch
Brace your tear ducts, this one is probably going to get heavy.
Re: Nintendo Has Sold Over 700 Million Video Game Consoles To Date
Huh, I wonder if there's going to be fanfare with each system Switch surpasses. Gamecube will be easy and N64 is likely before it's lifespan peters out. If it takes the SNES I'll be incredibly impressed. After that it's the one that had a decade to itself and the literal phenomenon that non-gamers thought was cool.
Re: Donkey Kong Country Designer Shows Off Early King K. Rool And Kremling Art Concepts
And this is why you iterate.
Interesting to see that one close to what we got where the crown was just a natural crest on his head.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think Of The Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Direct?
Smash character reveals are as smart and tactful as Overwatch's character movies. More so with Smash because the pastiche of Nintendoness is like snippets of the Emissary sequel we never got. Everytime is such a rush of joy.
This show did it's job reinforcing how ultimate this version of the title is really going to be. I long for an on disc version of this the soundtrack (I suspect they'll probably never bother with a buyable electronic version -they made the Switch do it).