Dragon Quest XI S: Echoes Of An Elusive Age - Definitive Edition Is No Longer Exclusive To Switch

I mean, too bad for the Switch (it's losing one hell of an exclusive), but good for the game itself as it deserves to be played as much as possible. An absolute classic.

Curiously missing out that it’s a straight port, no visual boost included. So you can play a version on PS4 with better visuals or one with more content. Absolutely bonkers.

No biggie. Just glad to have it on the Switch!

Good, more people will be able to play it. Really enjoyed this one.

More people have an opportunity to play this great rpg.

Only platform fanbois could be salty.

Honestly, that’s great. Id rather many people get to experience this great game than not

I'm not into Dragon Quest myself so I've never played it beyond the demo, but I know how highly regarded this one is. The more people who have the opportunity to play it, the better!

It was never Nintendo's to begin with.

Some of the responses seem to think that Dragon Quest 11 is not currently on the other systems.

I see this as a net positive. Dragon Quest 11 is a fantastic JRPG and more people need to buy and support it for the work that went into it.

Wait, do owners of dragon quest 11 on PS4 and PC have to buy this or is it a free update? Sounds like they have to buy the game again which is lame because it's not like this is P5R or anything, the additions while nice are minor.

I'm sure this is great for the 12 people with an Xbox One in Japan!

It's quite cool for Xbox gamers that this is going to Game Pass. Compared to the beginning of the gen, the Xbox One is looking like a much stronger platform for fans of Japanese games (although I'd still like to see it become more competitive on the exclusives front, like the Xbox 360 was).

There's already blowback from the Playstation community about this version being visually identical to the Switch release. While it's true that DQXI S isn't quite as pretty as the base version of the game, the 2D mode, extra content, QoL improvements, and soundtrack that doesn't make your ears bleed still makes it the superior version of the game by quite a distance.

I'm actually ok with this. Dragon Quest 11 is one of my favourite games ever. I'm glad more people will get to play it. I'm also happy that Square will receive more sales for the game so hopefully that means Dragon Quest 12 will get released, too!

This version has been an exclusive for about a year so it's not a huge loss.

I almost bought this game but the voice acting was way too annoying for me.

The game wasn't even that exclusive, it's just the same game but with extra contents. Nothing really that worthwhile to argue about. Exclusives are not relevant anymore anyways since publishers are more and more greedy. Sony are starting to put their exclusives on PC and Xbox are putting theirs on Switch and mobile so it's not an exclusive only world anymore. You could basically stream all those games on Switch anyways.

@Chowdaire they have to buy it again. It was confirmed it wasn’t going to be an update. Really crazy they do that but I guess they reworked the game. Also, it’s a port of the switch version so only frame rate really improves.

@retro_player_77 Are publishers greedy, or are people also blindly buying this stuff?

@TG16_IS_BAE Why not both?

Honestly if I can get a game on Switch over the PC (and it runs decent) I'll always choose it on Switch. The pure convenience of being able to play like an hour or so in bed before sleep is worth it.
I put in over 100 hours into Dragon Quest XI and I doubt I would have done that on PC.

Kind of sucks, but at least other gamers get to enjoy what we’ve known all along with this game-now if only the reverse could be true and a few of the exclusives on other systems would come to Switch like P5 Royal, RE2, RE3 remakes, etc..

Well, I guess it's time to throw away my switch.

Good to hear as it means more people will have access to an amazing RPG and the Switch version still offers the most flexibility in play considering it's both handheld and home console. Unless the PS5 somehow overtakes the Japanese market (which seems unlikely against the Switch), I have a feeling Dragon Quest 12 will be on Switch at launch considering how the console has dominated over there and it's the country's biggest RPG series.

The more the merrier. I loved this game and I’m happy more people will be able to enjoy the best version of it.

Why would I ever choose to play a game on PS4 or Xbox when it's on Switch? Massive downgrade.

Good for folks who don't have a Switch I suppose.

Glad more people get to play this. Still need to play this on Switch myself.

Hey, that’s fine. Other non-Nintendo players get to play this masterpiece of a video game.

This is great news, it’s a fantastic game and everyone should have a chance at playing it regardless console of choice.

Besides, when I buy a game for Switch, I don’t do it out of exclusivity, I do it because I can play it anywhere.

@nessisonett Don't forget the graphical downgrade version having actual music. A bit of a circus the DQ series, inn'it?

@retro_player_77 Thats what I’m getting at

Great, now that one of our best third-party games of 2019 is now multi-platform...
GIVE US KINGDOM HEARTS 3!!!

I always thought the “S” stood for “Switch” - that title will be weird on other systems.

This is just the version with the handful of extra DLC and audio that was only on the Switch version. Main game was not exclusive to Switch.

Anyway, finished it on PS4 sold it and got the PC one for my collection. Not playing the entire game over to play a few extra story quest.

Same reason I never bought it again on Switch.

It appeared first on PS4 and 3DS.

Who cares?

Awesome, more people get to play it.

I’m glad that more people will be able to enjoy the game.

@Crono1973 It sucks on other platforms due to MIDI music

Well they had it before switch without the extra content so don't really see an issue with giving it to them. Kind of hilarious they don't get a dlc and have to rebuy the game though, way to stick it to them

Great news! Don't know how much it will sell, but it's obviously the best version of the game, so the more people that can experience it, the better.

This is great news. As many people as possible need to play this game!

@N8tiveT3ch LOL... PRE-0RDER CANCELLED!!!

I'm glad that timed-exclusives are becoming more common these days.

This.. This is Outrage! why would Square Enix Takes away exclusives from the switch! i'm not giving them any of my money anymore! shame on them! #SayNotoSquareEnix #DontbuyanythingfromSquareEnix! #ShameonSquareEnix

Third party games should be available on multiple platforms for as many fans as possible to be able to play. There's games I'd like to see on the Switch too like Persona 5 and the first Kingdom Hearts.

I always thought Nintendo paid for the extra content in XI S and published it. Either way, it's a phenomenal game so I'm glad more people get to play it.

It’s sure to sell 100 copies on the Xbox.

This is great for PS4 and Xbox owners, I hope they get Octopath too and I hope we get Nier on Switch(if possible)

@nessisonett weird enough that those are pretty much ports from a port.

It kinda sucks that the definitive edition additions weren't just an update or DLC for PS4 and PC.

@Ralizah oh yeah the soundtrack is beautiful; I can’t imagine a midi soundtrack.

@jobvd pretty sure this was a Sony exclusive before it came to switch...

Excited to play the definitive version on PC! As well as it is optimized for the Switch, I always found myself wanting the luxuries PC brings: unshakable FPS, higher resolutions, etc.

Is this a completely new game? Because everyone here is acting like this game is completley new to the other platforms.🤨

DQXI came to the other systems first anyway. We got the superb definitive edition on the Switch which is one of my most played games ever on the system. They are just getting the "better" edition later whilst having had the actual game before Switch anyway.

It's actually fine and a little surprising why this didn't happen on the other systems earlier. Good that more experience it. Loved playing it in handheld.

thats good for the company and more people can experience this game , now can we have ff7 remake on switch ?

Third party exclusives really are stupid anyway. Why would you limit the amount of people able to play your games?

For first party games I can see why.

@playstation_king you must be pretty young boi. Dragon quest was Nintendo exclusive before SoNY PlayStation even existed.

@Thwomp_Stomper @Chowdaire Because Square Enix doesn't know what a DLC is.

@jobvd I know originally it was a Nintendo exclusive I've played them all since 3, I was talking about this dragon quest specifically

@TreonsRealm the game has been out on pc and ps4 for a long time

@playstation_king was a lesser version

Im glad i have it for the switch what a Gem!
And this game deserves to be played on every console.

Terrible port to the PS4. Not even a free upgrade. Happy to have it on Switch but not happy my PS4 friends are getting a bad deal.

@jobvd um DQ11 was on the PS4 first my guy.....you can own more than one system......

@JSDude1 it doesnt work like that you cant complain that its going on other systems and then beg for games that have no chance of being on the switch. RE2 and 3 cant even run on the switch neither can Royal

@kalosn not gonna happen stop begging

@ferroreo yet people whine for other games knock it off

@sanderev I 100% agree with you. The only exception is when the console owner foots the bill for the development like Bayonetta.

So they got Hero in Smash for advertising purposes and then port it to other consoles, Square are smart can’t knock em!
Love this game I hope more people get to experience its charm and fantastic soundtrack, it really is top tier RPG voice acting and characters are perhaps the best I’ve seen in years. Playing this made me think GameFreak need to step it up in quality

@NintendoPok uuuuuummmmm dragon quest was Nintendo exclusive before playstation even existed. And the version the ps4 had is a different one and vastly inferior. I OWN IT.

I can see that selling a whole 6 copies on Xbox in Japan.

Well if there getting this then I want GTA5 etc. etc. etc. etc.

@nessisonett but the definitive edition on PC/XB/PS will have the all the benefits of visual upgrade (4K, possibly 60FPS on XB Series X, TBC on PS4) & all the extras from the Switch version, so I'm not quite sure what you mean? It's the best of both worlds.

God damn it. Why SE? I haven't bought a version of DQXI yet because I didn't want the crappy music from the PS4 or the massively downgraded visuals of the Switch. How hard would it be to put out an actual definitive version instead of making people choose if they want the superior visuals or audio?

So Square Enix are doing to PS4 owners what Atlus did with Persona 5 R?

Great game. The more who experience it the better.

Bought this months ago. I've not got round to playing it yet,its still in the wrapper 😀

@SilentHunter382 True, however those games blur the line between first and third party. And even then I can see them being released on other platforms as well, as with Microsoft releasing their games on the Switch and / or PS4.

oh well the vast majority of Nintendo fans never played Dragon Quest 11 S so why would they care about definitive edition going to other platforms plus Dragon Quest 11 was never a Switch exclusive in the first place

@NintendoPok yes I can. There are many “impossible ports” to Switch at this point. Plus as I stated, even though I kind of dislike this fact. I am still happy other gamers get to play DQ 11.

And it is £34.99, not bad, might get it on Xbox instead of Switch as I had too much to play around it's original release. Must admit Microsoft have done a good job in their presentation, looks like Xbox for next gen.

The big news is that Dragon Quest is coming to Xbox for the first time so another Japanese franchise that will be able to reach a wider audience is always good news. Xbox has got Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts and Dragon Quest now.

I find the framing of this perplexing. This game literally exists on other platforms, just not with the extras. Did Nintendo or SE ever refer to this game as an exclusive to Switch? I know why gaming sites do this, but it's still hilarious to see people fall for this trap.

This is great. More people deserve to play this!

This good news for everyone — more people will get to play it, and on their preferred platform. They should probably have put in the effort to offer the PS4 version plus the added content though...
Now give us a proper FFXV in return. Don't tell me it can't be done. I've seen the Witcher III on Switch.

Forget the Switch Tax, the Playstation Tax is king now. Fans that bought DQXI on PS4 at launch for $60 can now........buy the Switch version for $60 as well to get the non-beta version!

@sikthvash It’s not, the S version on PS4 will not have improved visuals, it has the Switch graphics.

@nessisonett But it says 'Please note, however, that the resolution and frame rate are at least as good as they were for the original PlayStation 4 release' - meaning that it's not going to get an additional boost in performance, but it will be just as good as the vanilla version which ran at 4k 30 FPS, albeit checkerboard rendering and upscale rather than true 4K*.
*EDIT: on the Pro model of course. Presumably 1080p / 30FPS on base console, but also 1080p / 60FPS option on Pro. No mention on specifics for XB1/XB1X/XB Series X or PC, but I suspect they will be adjusted accordingly.

@sikthvash "[Dragon Quest XI S is] a port of the Nintendo Switch version, so the graphics are not the same as they were for the original Dragon Quest XI on PlayStation 4. Please note, however, that the resolution and frame rate are at least as good as they were for the original PlayStation 4 release."

That’s the full quote there. Essentially, the models won’t be updated and possibly things like lighting, shadows, effects too. It’ll be the Switch game upscaled to a stable 1080p running at 60 FPS.

For those that have played both....how significant are the upgrades in the Switch version? I actually own both the base PS4 version and the Switch version. I do appreciate the graphical differences in the base version, and the MIDI synth does make me want to bludgeon anyone nearby. But beyond those two issues, assuming 2D mode doesn't interest me, how significant are the rest of the changes?

I still haven't played the game. I played the Switch demo (and kept my full copy in the shrink wrap for now) and am deciding what version to ultimately play.

@NEStalgia If you're a fan of the first, the additional companion scenarios more than justify a revisit. There's a slew of new content ranging from QoL fixes to additions to the campaign. Some of its new content is restricted to the 2D mode, but that's not to say it wasn't enjoyable.

As you can probably tell from my PFP, I'm a DQ fan. This'll be my 3rd time buying the game. Personally, I can't wait to replay it. DQXI wound up being one of my favorite games to come out in the last decade, so I might be a little biased in recommending it.

@nessisonett True, then it remains an ambiguous statement. one would think they'd be making one game with all the bells and whistles, and then they scale it to suit each hardware iteration; for sake of argument, using made up figures, the Switch gets a 900p with FXAA & Low Res Textures, whereas other versions on PS4 / XB will benefit from better graphical options, but they all stem from the definitive edition would be best experienced on next gen / PC hardware. It's weird if they've isolated all these other features to a different version. It's possible something got lost in translation, so I guess we should wait for further clarification. If I'm right, then it's a win win situation and you'll have to buy me a Curly Wurly. If you're right however, well I will be shamed for all eternity & I'll have to play Cooking Mama: Cookstar till my eyes burn & we can both have a little cry about how we were short changed by Square Enix =0p Have a good weekend!

@sikthvash I’ll hold you to that 😂😂

@nessisonett Gawd I hope I win 😂

@NintendoPok Never say never! But heh, I can wait to at least see them bringing The Story So Far. They've just released Re Mind this year after all, so it's just a matter of time.

I was just thinking about getting Dragon Quest XI on Switch and now I'm wondering whether to wait for the PS4 version. Need more information for now as the statement they made about graphics isn't quite clear to me.

@kalosn it can barely run persona 5 scramble please stop

@JSDude1 no you cant youre entitled.

@jobvd OK

@NintendoPok PROVE IT: How am I entitled? Because I have free speech? Because I say something you don’t like? Are you American, because not only am I not “entitled” (whatever that is supposed to encompass), but I have the first Amendment. So step off, or prove your point, since you made the accusation:

@NintendoPok
Performance is actually stable of the majority of time, it just drops some frames during some moments. The only real problem was frame-pacing, and that's something different.
Also, Persona 5 Scramble runs on a different rendering engine, while KH3 is Unreal Engine 4, the same engine as DQXI in fact. That means additional tools for optimisation are present.

I know what you're thinking, "why can't I just buy a PS4 or wait for a PS5 to enjoy the Kingdom Hearts series?"
Well, apart from the fact that the Switch offers portability, I just want it there for reasons. Maybe it's just a fan's dream on seeing a main Kingdom Hearts game on a Nintendo console....
But I'm not necessarily begging for it, it's just a wish I have. Now that I think about it, maybe I need to think more about the other systems as well, and how a Switch version can coexist with another. That's why Divinity: Original Sin 2 got cross-save support with the PC version.

I can own other hardware to play it, but I wouldn't say the same for the people who only buy one hardware from one of the coompetition. I mean, "fanboys" right?

@JSDude1 totally agree, I'd even take remasters of RE2 and RE3 on the switch

It doesn't matter. The ten best games on PS4 and XboxOne are:

Dragon's Dogma
The Witcher III
Dragon Quest XI
Divinity: Original Sin II
Cuphead
Axiom Verge
Crypt of the Necrodancer
Assassin’s Creed: Rogue
Shovel Knight
Ashen

And they have all been ported to the Switch. The ten best games on the Switch, however, are not all playable on PS4 and XboxOne. Super Mario Odyssey and Breath of the Wild, the two best games of this console generation, come to mind. Astral Chain is up there too.

@TheWingedAvenger I agree with most of what you say, except Astral Chain.

Astral Chain isn't that good at all. Barely a 20 hour game with little to no replay value.

I personally wouldn't even rate it in the top 20 games available on the Switch.

@MisterKorman Yes, thankfully Phil Spencer (Xbox) has achieved Japanese support in the last two years: Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts and Dragon Quest.

Cool, glad I didn't make a purchase on the psn sale this week, i can wait for this to turn up instead

@NEStalgia "Forget the Switch Tax, the Playstation Tax is king now."

Haha, yeah. I am now instantly wondering how those crazy fanboys are going to justify that one, because "obviously", that's totally different from what's happening on the Nintendo Switch...

Absolute betrayal. Going to make a poorly shot facebook video of me dropkicking my Switch.

@nessisonett

Really? The graphics won't be improved? I can't believe that.

Edit: Just saw your other comment with the quote. That is mad and extremely lazy on the devs part.

@MisterKorman Yes, it was a disaster with Don Mattrick but.now with Phil Spencer Xbox looks alright 😀.

@RPGamer This game was on PS4 before it was on the Switch. How does that constitute getting exclusives from PS and XBox when the game itself wasn't exclusive in the first place? Just some of the content was exclusive.

@Isaix Switch DEFINITELY needs to get Nier Automata. I still don't understand why that game isn't out on Switch yet.

@TheWingedAvenger Ummmm no. Those aren't the best 10 games on either of those systems. Just wow!

@Stude

Let others enjoy as well

@RPGamer Nothing wrong with wanting exclusives from others. I was only pointing out that DX11 wasn't exclusive to Switch in the first place. So that wouldn't be a trade off between the consoles. That's all. I do think games like Persona, KH, and others should come to Switch. Also any good notable games that aren't first party to go from Switch to other platforms.

NIce probably get it on pc. Hopefully they will make a DQIX Sentinels of the Starry Skies HD or remake for switch probably one of my favorite games on DS!

@RPGamer Well, any kind of fanboy, actually. I'm more of a multi-platform person, so I don't defend or attack any single console or group. It's pointless and petty. In general, my sentiment is that you should just play what you like, and enjoy whatever system(s) you own, long as you don't slam people that don't enjoy the same things as you do.

@TheWingedAvenger axiom verge is the ***** I agree, best metroidvania ever made that's not metroid or castlevania

@RPGamer Oh, don't get me wrong: not saying that you were doing that, just speaking in general.

Aside from that, I agree, although hate is a bit of a strong word. I thoroughly dislike them, but I'd sooner pity them than hate them, because I wouldn't be able to enjoy my life being so short-sighted, so I can imagine how hard it must be for them (or for the people forced to live with them), to live like that.

@RPGamer Likewise.