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@AverageGamer We're never going to agree then, because your concept of broken and mine are completely different.

Nice discussion anyway.

@AverageGamer In what world?
Rematch, Fae Farm, Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker, WarioWare Move it and The Evil Within are all rated 75 and are vastly superior games.

The Thaumaturge is rated 74 and it's definitely better than Star Wars Outlaws.

I don't know where you got the idea that a game below 75 is broken, but it's factually wrong.

@AverageGamer I see where you're coming from, but I disagree.

The game has a rating of 75 on Metacritic. For me that's way too high. This game is mediocre in every possible way.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and ours are quite different.

This game to me is a boring mess.

It looks bad, the AI is brain-dead, the characters are unlikable, the shooting is limp without any impact and the stealth is absolutely terrible.

If anything I think this game was overrated.

Real time battles and hardcore Pokémon experience? I very much doubt that. It will be another soulless cash grab.

@ImpromptuR
Let me reassure you, your complaint is one of the most nothing complaints I've ever read in my life and the only reason I commented was to point out the absurdity of it.

Nintendo doesn't care, I don't care, and most of the Southern hemisphere does not care.

As someone who lived in the Southern hemisphere for most of my life, the season being different than mine in a video game event was never something that bothered me or my friends or any other human being I've ever met.

@ImpromptuR I guess they could rename it to: "Summer event, or Winter event if you like to complain about small, irrelevant matters"

Common Nintendo L.

It runs just as well as the game does!

@JH64 That's the thing, it didn't have to.

It was a new concept making console games portable, something that is not new now.

Also Breath of the Wild. It came out on the Wii U, but nobody bought the Wii U.

Mario Kart is expected in every console. Zelda is a system seller and Breath of the Wild is a game that will be in history as one of the most influential games of all time.

@Supadav03 Agreed, but Nintendo shareholders don't see it that way. Capitalism always wants the numbers to go up.

@BTB20 That is an absurd exaggeration of my argument and it wasn't present at all in my comment. Stop exaggerating for drama. If you paid attention to my comments you would've noticed I even stated the Switch 2 will sell a lot, just not as much as the first one.

The Switch was extremely successful due to its quality games, but let's not deny the ability of being a console and a portable definitely made it unique and boosted its sales.

The Switch 2 has slightly improved specs, looks the same, the mouse novelty will go largely unused, it barely has exclusives, most games coming to it are inferior versions of games already present in other consoles. There's also the key cart solutions and the £80 games.

It won't stop it from being successful because it's Nintendo's new console, but Nintendo is making every possible effort to make it less appealing for consumers.

Now, on a personal note, I think it's an absolute crap console that is overpriced, without games and it has no inherent appeal besides being the "new console".

@rockodoodle I know people who are casuals who don't see the point of a Switch 2 because it looks the same.

It's not just about graphics, it's about being considered unique and justified.

The Switch 2 doesn't differentiate itself enough from the Switch to stand out as much as the Switch 1 did.

This is not going to make it an unsuccessful product, but if just 20% of people don't seem it worthy enough for an upgrade, that's 30 million units.

Edit: I also heard people complaining about the price of games. When the Switch released in the UK new games were £50 on average, they're now at around £70. This is a "little brother" or "kids" console with very high prices (from a parent point of view). I have a friend whose son has a Switch and he has absolutely no plans of buying the Switch 2 because in his mind it's more expensive for the same thing.

Don't underestimate the power price has on people not buying products.

@Joshslone7 I never said it's going to be unsuccessful.

I also don't think consoles need to sell more and more, but I doubt Nintendo shareholders agree with you and me.

I'm just pointing out that the Switch 2 feels pointless and I don't think the Switch 1 being the most successful console of all time has to do with it.

It's severely underpowered, it has almost no new features compared to it's predecessor, game key carts are ridiculous and it has no games.

The numbers lie as the success is attached to the Switch 1. This console is a lot less now than the Switch 1 was at its time.

The Switch 1 sold 150 million units and for a while Mario Kart was the only first party Switch 2. There are very few games for the Switch 2 and the direct was pathetic.

My prediction is the Switch 2 will sell absurdly well for the first few years due to people wanting to upgrade the console, but it will severely slow down as the novelty of the Switch is gone and the Switch 2 is not as new and appealing.

I could be wrong, but I don't think the Switch 2 will come even close to the Switch 1 in units sold. It has too many caveats to be a "true evolution".

At first I felt a bit of FOMO for not buying a Switch 2 when Nintendo offered me one, but after this showcase I'm really glad I didn't.

Very few exclusives, ridiculous game key shenanigans, and games that look and play much better on a PS5/Series X/PC.

The Switch 2 hasn't come even close to justifying its existence.

I'm so happy I didn't buy a Switch 2.

Barely any exclusives and sometimes a worse deal than buying a Switch 1 game.

When a new Zelda comes out in 4 years and the console actually has games, I'll buy it.

@Dr_Lugae That's not what I said, don't straw man me, please.

They could keep the destructible objects but reduce graphical fidelity a bit to increase performance. Or they could add a performance mode to give players the option like many developers do nowadays. There are other possible solutions that don't require sacrificing gameplay.

What a copout comment. As if there are no developers that prioritise performance AND playability.

There's no need to sacrifice one to focus on the other. It just reads as an excuse for eventual poor performance.

@Beetlebum91 I remember that! It's crazy that Bethesda chose that criteria to give or not give the bonus. Especially because Obsidian had a time pressure to pump the game out quickly and had to release it in a very buggy state.

For me it was a really unfair situation for Obsidian.

The important question is, does it matter? Who takes Metacritic user scores seriously?

I'm generally quite suspicious of scores of 0 or 10, because they're generally out of spite or blind love for a game.

It's much more constructive to read what's written on a review than to check an arbitrary number that has no meaning by itself.

All according to plan. Pump the price to £80 so we'll be thanking them when a game comes out for £60 as if it's cheap.

Nintendo is making sure I'll be buying a lot more games on the PS5.

@donv2135 In short, no.

People are dissatisfied and they have a right to express their opinion.

If you don't like it, it's easier to not read the comment section.

The GameCube graphics look even more GameCubier!

What an amazing feat of technology!

Such a generic PR statement.

Doug Bowser is Nintendo's Phil Spencer.

I love Fantasy Life, but Famitsu's scoring criteria is a dartboard with numbers from 5 through 10.

Game Chat is a huge mistake.

People wanted to communicate using their Switch, but not at this performance cost.

Completely not worth it.

Yong Yea is the perfect example of when connections trump talent.

Hayter as always doing an amazing job!

Yong Yea is a terrible voice actor and his voice does not match Kiryu at all.

It's unfortunate because the rest of the cast is really good.

I'm glad not everything Nintendo is doing is an own goal. This is actually quite convenient.

@sanderev Here's a cool tip, no one is forcing you to read the comments.

As someone who doesn't exactly understand how eBay works, can't we just report them?

Is scalping allowed by eBay?

@nhSnork @WheresWaveRace I misread the article and did not understand the DLC was included. That was my fault. Deleting the original comment.

Amazing game!

This addition definitely increases the value of the subscription.

@MamaSymphonia You're grateful you're able to? You shouldn't be grateful, we should live in a society where buying games is a choice, and not a privilege.

You're very accepting of financial opression by the powers that be

@electrolite77 Your response is huge wall of text which could be summed up with a shrug.

Historically when people stop consuming products because they're price gouging the prices come down.

Nintendo is arrogant because they know they don't need to discount their products. If a message was sent to them, they would lower the price or discount it more frequently.

Don't forget that when the Switch came out, it's games were cheaper than PS4 games.

They're doing this because they sold 150 million consoles and a ton of games. If they fall, they'll be humbled like they have been before.

@electrolite77 If you come from a poor country you feel the impact of these changes much more. I used to live in one, £20 increased here is a fortune increased in these countries.

I think you don't know what you're talking about.

"If someone wants to pay the $80 for MKW, they aren't some useless corporate simpleton,"

You are correct, you're just a person that sees cost through your financial situation whilst ignoring the fact that most people have less than what they used to have.

It's not being corporate, it's just lacking empathy.

The console price is completely fair.

The game prices are ridiculous.

I have, which is a bit unfortunate.

I won't be pre-ordering, but I know that people want it and haven't received an invitation.

64 GB games and they offer a 256GB micro SD with their console. Nintendo's generosity knows no bounds.

@Chlocean did you completely ignore my reply?

The console price was never the problem.

There's no justification for the price of their games.

@Chlocean It's Nintendo's flagship console that also happens to be a handheld.

The price of the console is not absurd, the ridiculous price of its games that are technologically inferior and constrained to a 64GB cartridge are.

@BTB20 Every new game doesn't come to the Switch.

You're comparing the Switch with a console from 2013 and don't see the problem?

Cool

@johnvboy By your overall comments it really seems like you're completely biased in favor of Nintendo.

We'll talk in 4 years when the Switch 2 sales will be trailing well behind the Switch.

@GrailUK No problem. I wasn't the friendliest either. Most of my frustration stems from the fact that I love Nintendo games and I feel they're taking advantage of me and every Nintendo fan because of our nostalgia and love for their IPs.

I think you're right about the price cut. If they cut the price of the console a few years down the line it will definitely revitalise interest in the console.

@johnvboy Because Nintendo also had a N64, a GameCube and a Wii U that failed.

You're very narrowly focused on the success of the Switch without analysing Nintendo's past failures.

The Switch 2 won't fail, but the novelty is over.

There's much less reason to buy a Switch 2 than there was to buy a Switch. The casual market made the Switch and they won't be so keen to buy a console that's so similar with very expensive games.

@GrailUK "Let me try to spell this for you" I can do without your condescending arrogance.

The Wii U had a similar strategy and failed miserably.

Let me spell this out for you:

The Switch was a completely new concept when it came out, the Switch 2 isn't. The novelty is dead.

The Switch sold buttloads during COVID, for obvious reasons.

The casual audience won't upgrade to a Switch 2 without a very good reason as the consoles are way too similar.

The Switch 2 is not going to fail, but it won't be the success the Switch was by a longshot.

@Oldstalk I know I can't. That's my point.

The Switch 2 is already lagging behind the PS5 when it comes to performance.

Imagine how games like GTA VI are going to run on it.

Third party support is going to disappear real quick for them.

They're going to get Indies and miss most 3rd party releases, especially when the PS6 drops.