Pat_trick

Amazing game!

This addition definitely increases the value of the subscription.

@MamaSymphonia You're grateful you're able to? You shouldn't be grateful, we should live in a society where buying games is a choice, and not a privilege.

You're very accepting of financial opression by the powers that be

@electrolite77 Your response is huge wall of text which could be summed up with a shrug.

Historically when people stop consuming products because they're price gouging the prices come down.

Nintendo is arrogant because they know they don't need to discount their products. If a message was sent to them, they would lower the price or discount it more frequently.

Don't forget that when the Switch came out, it's games were cheaper than PS4 games.

They're doing this because they sold 150 million consoles and a ton of games. If they fall, they'll be humbled like they have been before.

@electrolite77 If you come from a poor country you feel the impact of these changes much more. I used to live in one, £20 increased here is a fortune increased in these countries.

I think you don't know what you're talking about.

"If someone wants to pay the $80 for MKW, they aren't some useless corporate simpleton,"

You are correct, you're just a person that sees cost through your financial situation whilst ignoring the fact that most people have less than what they used to have.

It's not being corporate, it's just lacking empathy.

The console price is completely fair.

The game prices are ridiculous.

I have, which is a bit unfortunate.

I won't be pre-ordering, but I know that people want it and haven't received an invitation.

64 GB games and they offer a 256GB micro SD with their console. Nintendo's generosity knows no bounds.

@Chlocean did you completely ignore my reply?

The console price was never the problem.

There's no justification for the price of their games.

@Chlocean It's Nintendo's flagship console that also happens to be a handheld.

The price of the console is not absurd, the ridiculous price of its games that are technologically inferior and constrained to a 64GB cartridge are.

@BTB20 Every new game doesn't come to the Switch.

You're comparing the Switch with a console from 2013 and don't see the problem?

Cool

@johnvboy By your overall comments it really seems like you're completely biased in favor of Nintendo.

We'll talk in 4 years when the Switch 2 sales will be trailing well behind the Switch.

@GrailUK No problem. I wasn't the friendliest either. Most of my frustration stems from the fact that I love Nintendo games and I feel they're taking advantage of me and every Nintendo fan because of our nostalgia and love for their IPs.

I think you're right about the price cut. If they cut the price of the console a few years down the line it will definitely revitalise interest in the console.

@johnvboy Because Nintendo also had a N64, a GameCube and a Wii U that failed.

You're very narrowly focused on the success of the Switch without analysing Nintendo's past failures.

The Switch 2 won't fail, but the novelty is over.

There's much less reason to buy a Switch 2 than there was to buy a Switch. The casual market made the Switch and they won't be so keen to buy a console that's so similar with very expensive games.

@GrailUK "Let me try to spell this for you" I can do without your condescending arrogance.

The Wii U had a similar strategy and failed miserably.

Let me spell this out for you:

The Switch was a completely new concept when it came out, the Switch 2 isn't. The novelty is dead.

The Switch sold buttloads during COVID, for obvious reasons.

The casual audience won't upgrade to a Switch 2 without a very good reason as the consoles are way too similar.

The Switch 2 is not going to fail, but it won't be the success the Switch was by a longshot.

@Oldstalk I know I can't. That's my point.

The Switch 2 is already lagging behind the PS5 when it comes to performance.

Imagine how games like GTA VI are going to run on it.

Third party support is going to disappear real quick for them.

They're going to get Indies and miss most 3rd party releases, especially when the PS6 drops.

@Rice Consoles from 2013. The Switch is from 2025 and is already worse than a console from 2020.

Imagine when the PS6 drops. No game is gonna run on Switch 2.

Imagine how GTA VI is gonna run on Switch 2, if it releases there. They're losing a huge chunk of the market.

The Switch 2 is already starting with compromised ports for games that can run on the PS4. How long until they lose 3rd party support like it happened with the Switch?

Nintendo is doing everything it can to force people into buying games digitally.

This is supposed to be a new generation and their cartridge can't fit a PS4 game, it's pathetic.

The Switch 2 is becoming less appealing every day.

@Duboiss I agree with you.

That's why I see a glimmer of hope in this price increase.

It might create such a difference between AAA and smaller game prices that people might start buying other games because they're cheaper.

It happened in the past, and hopefully it will happen in the future.

@Duboiss So you're willing to pay whatever price they want for this unique experience?

There's a point consumers need to think and put their foot down on prices.

If everyone follows the logic you're presenting, Nintendo can keep increasing their prices however they want.

We do have a voice and we do have power, after all if we don't buy their products, they don't make money.

Look at the Nintendo 3DS. Nintendo had to slash its price because no one was buying.

Only £65 for a 7 year old game that released even on the Wii U?

What a bargain!

I know there are upgrades to it, I still think it's far from justifying its price.

This games looks drab, bland and boring.

Even if the gameplay is great, the art direction is not doing it any favors.

@westman98 Ah, fair. That make sense

Opposite to their pricing.

@AlonditeFE That is a really unfortunate truth.

People just want more of the same and new ideas are rejected without a thought quite frequently.

It really feels like corporations make gaming more a more unappealing as time passes.

I'm glad I have old consoles and indie games exist.

Nintendo, Sony and the other big ones seem really keen on extorting as much as they can.

Early adopters and Nintendo fans will definitely buy the console.

The problem with the Switch 2 is going to be having long legs. A lot of Switch owners are casual gamers ans and parents who don't want to spend a fortune on games.

There's also the fact that more likely than not a PS6 will release early in the Switch 2's life and will divert the attention from it. Third party games will be more graphically demanding and the Switch is severely underpowered.

I think the Switch 2 will be to the Switch what the 3DS was to the DS. A success, but not a massive one like it's predecessor.

@AlonditeFE

That's a fair point. But I also think it would open a new range for AA games.

AA has basically vanished because it was squeezed between AAA and Indies.

Now they can establish themselves in the 40-60 range while the small indies can offer lower prices.

At the end of the day, if games like Undertale and Stardew Valley were priced at $30, I doubt they would have succeeded as much as they have.

A lot of people frown at old school graphics and limitations and for indie games to thrive they need to offer competitive prices.

Square Eniz tried to go AAA with the pricing of their 2D-HD games, and while the strategy initially worked, their more recent games failed to garner enough attention.

The exception being Dragon Quest, but Dragon Quest is a Behemoth in Japan.

It's going to be good for smaller developers and bad for AAA ones in the future.

These games will have to justify their price more than ever, while a smaller developer can make a solid game for $30 and people will love it's pricing.

With the exception of flagship titles, the AAA is struggling and it's going to become even harder with these ridiculous prices and competitors with smaller, more efficient and creative teams will thrive.

Also, Nintendo has officially beaten Sony and Microsoft in terms of greediness.

This looks 10x worse than Astrobot, and that was free.

Nintendo is showing peak greediness with the Switch 2.

@Jeronan And AGAIN, the Zelda games are getting better resolution, frame rates and better lighting just like Forbidden West, God of War and Spider-Man.

It's not a remake, it's not even a remaster.

The only difference is the wording used.

@Jeronan Fair enough.

I would still qualify the Zelda updates in the same group as Horizon Forbidden West and other PS5 games that were upgraded for free.

I agree with your point on the other ones.

It's to announce that from 2026 their games will increase in price by $30 per year.

@Jeronan Is Breath of The Wild a new game? Tears of the Kingdom?

Your argument fell apart in your first sentence.

Edit:

You're also wrong about them just being made compatible, they had some minor graphic and frame rate improvements.

Witcher 3 was entirely revamped for the PS5.

Horizon Forbidden West was also improved.

Some of the improved games were free upgrades for a long period before you had to pay the $10.

I bought my PS5 less than one year after it released and upgraded a lot of games for free, even disc based ones.

@westman98 You're wrong.

My proof:
https://www.pushsquare.com/guides/ps4-to-ps5-all-games-with-confirmed-free-upgrades

This list cites dozens of games with free updates.

In fact most of them were free when the PS5 released.

Remember when the PS5 released and most upgraded games were free? People were kicking off about the few ones that were paid.

This and the base price of games is putting Sony's greediness to shame.

I guess the wonderful art justifies the ridiculous price!

They have a less powerful console and they're effing the market by skyrocketing the price of their games. They've just opened the pricing floodgates.

From now on, only discounted or used games.

Screw you, Nintendo.

£75 for a game? That's greedier than Sony, and they have the more powerful console.

It's really nice to see that dozens of games made the list.

The Switch truly is a wonderful console.

My choice was Tears of the Kingdom, which I know is not very unique, the Zelda games have been in my life ever since I was a child.

Oh my god! A feature that exists for decades on other consoles?!

Welcome to the 21st century Nintendo!

Looking at the draw distance and the frame rate, I thought it was running on a PS2!

Thank goodness.

Every project gets better without Inafune's presence.

It makes me hopeful for a solid game.

Bad graphics, poor performance, sound effects that are 30 years old and no voice acting.

That's what you would expect from this small indie studio.

They've stopped buying/selling used games and now this.

It's like the CEO is trying to speedrun destroying the company.

@Not_Soos I'll derail and then retail at the end XD

He's been in litigation several times for groups that have disagreed with him, he banned the word "cis" on X because he called it a slur, which fair game, but those are not the actions of a "free speech absolutist".

There are several examples of him supporting governments that practice censorship but he doesn't care because it favors him financially.

He's more accepting of criticism than certain groups, but he clearly censors and intimidate in certain cases. After doing some research I see him as a hypocrite. I advise you searching for his lawsuits and the governments he supports and reach your own conclusions. You might end up disagreeing with me which is totally fine.

Fantasy Life! I really liked the relaxing vibe of the originalz also the idea of having several different professions with different gameplay styles always appealed to me. Games that do that are super rare and only FFXIV comes to mind when I think about it.

I am cautiously optimistic about the game too, because as you said, Level 5 is not the same it was a decade ago.

I'm still hoping for a good game because Fantasy Life occupies a very specific niche that no other developer seems to be willing to fill.

Fingers crossed!