@cra1g0s I don't see anywhere they said the current Primary/Secondary consoles mechanic would stop working.
So this sounds completely optional. And it's more for what it actually says: Lending a game to another console, where the game will be used without internet checking for 2 weeks, while disabling the game everywhere else.
@RupeeClock Did they say anywhere that the old Primary/Secondary account integration would stop working?
I didn't catch that, not even in the virtual card info page from their official site.
I thought this was more of an alternative way, not replacing the current existing mechanics, of making a console in your family group have a game without checking online without use for max 2 weeks in a row, while the game being unplayable everywhere else of course.
@rvcolem1 Erm. Nintendo rarely do this. Once Wii U launched, there were no first party title released for Wii.
Only exception would be 3DS, where several first party games still released after Switch launch. But they were still unsure of Switch's success, and they kept telling people 3DS would coexist with Switch.
Once Switch seemed a success, they stopped support for 3DS.
@Bobb It's just Sony & Nintendo vs Microsoft & Sega.
After the SNES Playstation success, which got all the Konami, Capcom and Square Soft / Enix hits; Sega merges with Microsoft and develop the competitor against the "Nintendo PlayStation 64", the "Dreambox".
Then the "Nintendo PlayCube" comes out and crushes Microsoft & Sega's dreams. Exclusives like Super Mario Sunbeams and Mario Kart: Going Commando make the console sell like hot cakes. Even Zelda: Kingdom of Liberty makes the Zelda series more popular in the west.
It's all love and money printing between Sony & Nintendo until someone at Nintendo proposes a less powerful machine, but with broader audience target. But that happened around 2009 instead of 2006.
@splinters I mean. The PS2 sold 10+ million in the last 10 years, it seems. I can't see the Switch stop selling right after the Switch 2 releases. It will outsell the PS2 even if it takes 5+ years from now.
@IceClimbersMain Bosses were extremely easy in Astrobot and also very formulaic. Not sure what you're trying to say when most were about as bland as Mario's.
None would release games for PS4 by now if people didn't keep purchasing them. If they can't get a game like "No rest for the wicked" to work and look fine there, they are simply and plainly bad developers.
@Max_the_German While there are still lots of games releasing on PS4, even this year, we can just assume some devs just want to release on the newer gen, which is PS5.
I looked at gameplays and trailers of the game, and there's nothing I think couldn't run on PS4.
@Member_the_game I don't care if you attack Nintendo, they aren't a family member.
I was just guessing what I believe is the reason for them to release DX versions (make more money because most Wii U games there didn't have a large user base to begin with in order to being successful in sales).
@Member_the_game While it's obvious they re-released the Wii U games because they are a company and must make money, the Wii U sold 13 million consoles. While the Switch already sold around 146 million consoles.
They didn't sell us "again", they re-released and sold games that a lot of people didn't actually play when they were released on the failed console not many bought.
Even if many of those 146 million consoles are double dips and everyone bought 2 Switch consoles, that's still 73 million vs only 13 million.
I, for one, have not bought any DX game that I had already played on Wii U. But I'm glad lots of people got to play Mario 3D World, Pokken and soon Xenoblade Chronicles X (among many other ports) for the first time.
@Keman PS4 was old and Sony was already marketing PS5. Of course they said "Old PS4 can't run that"
PS4 could run it if they actually cared about it. It's not a very heavy game when it comes to talk about how many characters or things are happening on screen.
@kkslider5552000 Imagine you are a 6 year old kid in 2020 and you get to play classic games like Super Mario Bros. 3 or Zelda ALttP in your Switch subscription app your parents pay for you.
Ten years later, in 2030, you want to play those games again on your Switch, just like you did when you were just a kid. And, oh, surprise, the Switch online services are long gone because the newly announced Switch 3 won't be backwards compatible because of specs shenanigans, and they will redo the whole monthly retro releases thing from scratch.
What will you do then if you really want to play those games again?
What will be of your Zelda ALttP save data you made while playing with your dad, looking together for the heart pieces, who already passed away because of a sudden illness? Better forget it.
@VoidofLight Even if that description in Steam could seem ChatGPT, it's as nonsencial of other things human beings actually write.
You can't just start saying humans are perfect and write 100% coherent descriptions all the time just for the sake of saying "that's AI" on something you don't like.
But yeah, the cat designs look like AI. Description is just a lazy human writing.
@MrCarlos46 Yes. There's lot of people commenting everywhere about how they think the Switch 2 will come with European SNES-like colored buttons.
Because of recent releases mostly, like the Paper Mario remake, and Mario & Luigi. Although Mario & Luigi has always had that button color pattern. Not sure if there are other recent games that do the button colors.
@Pastellioli We're back to Game Boy era. Every Game Boy before the Advance looked pretty much the same, just with different sizes and colors.
Original Game Boy. Game Boy Pocket. Game Boy Light. Even the "succesor", the Game Boy Color, looked pretty much the same.
So, it's not farfetched to say this could very well be the real deal. Larger console, possibly with default multi-colored buttons on the joycons and improved inner specs. After all, it's their most recent successful console, so... Don't fix what isn't broken.
If they deserve credit for their masterpieces, everyone deserve credit for what they do, no mater how "small" you see their jobs when compared to supposed "art".
We need the name of the harvesters in every apple, every tomato and every fruit out there.
Each book, aside from the author, needs to also include the people who operated the printing machines.
@greengecko007 I make apps as a developer. I've never been credited nor do I care about being credited. I'm paid for it and that's it.
But I'm a none that isn't famous or anything so I can't complain. I don't want to complain, anyway.
What is laughable is that someone is "entitled" to be given credit because of the industry they work on or because they are famous. But some others aren't because working on a different industry or because they aren't known.
When someone whines about not being given credit but it's already a very famous individual, it sounds to me like "Look at me! I'm already famous enough and get lots of money, but I still need to remember all of you how I did that thing, or how I did 40% of the thing you like so much to watch/listen/read, and I don't care if little Jimmy helped me in the other 60% but I won't comment on that"
@greengecko007 ...only if they weren't paid and worked for free. Otherwise, they are just "laboring and producing valuable goods" just like any other worker from any other industry.
If they made those arrangements for free, that's art. Pure art. But they didn't. They were paid by someone else (a company in this case) for making something. That's their job.
Also, if you start getting into the very fine details. What if 15 persons worked on composing an arrangement for one song? Would they need to also explicitly state what exactly each of them made/thought of?
It's just stupid waiting for getting credit for working, like you're entitled to it even after you were already paid for it.
@RupeeClock Some people are already playing that game without issues in both Yuzu and Ryujinx. It had random crashes, but most problems were resolved when disabling automatic updates and tweaking some options.
@Brianst0rm He was given a loss, not disqualified.
Also, this isn't EA or Ubisoft you're talking about. And while of course there could exist problems, it's not as wrong as a company as those and others.
This was a highlight of the Direct. I actually loved to see this with so much improvement in both graphics and gameplay (softer controls from how it looks).
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Re: Nintendo Announces 'Virtual Game Cards' For Switch, Unlocking Digital Lending
@cra1g0s I don't see anywhere they said the current Primary/Secondary consoles mechanic would stop working.
So this sounds completely optional. And it's more for what it actually says: Lending a game to another console, where the game will be used without internet checking for 2 weeks, while disabling the game everywhere else.
Re: Nintendo Announces 'Virtual Game Cards' For Switch, Unlocking Digital Lending
@RupeeClock Did they say anywhere that the old Primary/Secondary account integration would stop working?
I didn't catch that, not even in the virtual card info page from their official site.
I thought this was more of an alternative way, not replacing the current existing mechanics, of making a console in your family group have a game without checking online without use for max 2 weeks in a row, while the game being unplayable everywhere else of course.
Re: Poll: So, How Would You Rate The Nintendo Direct For March 2025?
@lyle_catcliffe Metroid Prime is not everyone's cup of tea. At least not mine.
I'm more than happy with the new Tomodachi Life, even if announced so early.
Re: Bonkers Metroidvania 'Rusty Rabbit' Now Has A Switch eShop Demo
@Serpenterror You say the dev was fired? Or you say the dev could be fired?
Re: Game Vouchers Won't Work On Switch 2 Exclusives, Says Nintendo
It's obvious this is because the console is new, the games are new.
Game Vouchers were introduced after two years of the Switch 1 being released.
They'll probably do the same and allow game Vouchers or release a similar offer after two years of the Switch 2 release.
This is like something pretty obvious. They want to charge full first and see how it does before giving discounts.
Re: Nintendo Talks About Future Switch Support Ahead Of Switch 2 Launch
@rvcolem1 Erm. Nintendo rarely do this. Once Wii U launched, there were no first party title released for Wii.
Only exception would be 3DS, where several first party games still released after Switch launch. But they were still unsure of Switch's success, and they kept telling people 3DS would coexist with Switch.
Once Switch seemed a success, they stopped support for 3DS.
Re: Don't Worry, Nintendo's Thinking About Affordability With Switch 2 Pricing
@Coversnail Adding to what the other user said, the Nintendo Switch had an official MSRP where I live (on release) that was the equivalent to USD$550.
So, yes, price in Japan could be chepar than USA or vice versa.
Re: Random: Shuhei Yoshida Reminisces About Playing Sony's First 'SNES PlayStation' Game
@Splash_Woman I also liked that Crafted World.
I can't believe none here will know about "Medievil : Twilight Maiden" and how it eclipsed "Zelda: Flute of Power" sales.
Re: Random: Shuhei Yoshida Reminisces About Playing Sony's First 'SNES PlayStation' Game
@Bobb It's just Sony & Nintendo vs Microsoft & Sega.
After the SNES Playstation success, which got all the Konami, Capcom and Square Soft / Enix hits; Sega merges with Microsoft and develop the competitor against the "Nintendo PlayStation 64", the "Dreambox".
Then the "Nintendo PlayCube" comes out and crushes Microsoft & Sega's dreams. Exclusives like Super Mario Sunbeams and Mario Kart: Going Commando make the console sell like hot cakes. Even Zelda: Kingdom of Liberty makes the Zelda series more popular in the west.
It's all love and money printing between Sony & Nintendo until someone at Nintendo proposes a less powerful machine, but with broader audience target. But that happened around 2009 instead of 2006.
Re: Nintendo Switch Hardware Sales Pass 150 Million, With PS2's Record Still A Way Off
@splinters I mean. The PS2 sold 10+ million in the last 10 years, it seems. I can't see the Switch stop selling right after the Switch 2 releases. It will outsell the PS2 even if it takes 5+ years from now.
Re: Review: Guilty Gear -Strive- Nintendo Switch Edition (Switch) - A Fine Port & A Bold New Step
I remember people saying in some subreddit "the switch can't run this game, it would look very bad" (using worse insults).
When there's a developer's will, there's a good port.
Re: Random: Astro Bot "Almost Outdid Nintendo At Its Own Game", Jokes Reggie
@IceClimbersMain Even with that second phase, they were easy. I thought that was one of your complaints for Mario bosses.
I enjoyed them, but there was no difficulty at all in Astrobot. That doesn't make Mario games harder, but still.
I'm just addressing your complaints. At times, Astrobot was fairly obvious and easier than Mario, while some other times, it was indeed harder.
Re: Random: Astro Bot "Almost Outdid Nintendo At Its Own Game", Jokes Reggie
@IceClimbersMain Bosses were extremely easy in Astrobot and also very formulaic. Not sure what you're trying to say when most were about as bland as Mario's.
Re: Ori Dev Asks Nintendo Fans If They Want 'No Rest For The Wicked' On Switch 2
@Max_the_German There are lots of games still releasing on PS4.
https://www.pushsquare.com/guides/new-ps4-games-release-dates-in-2025
None would release games for PS4 by now if people didn't keep purchasing them. If they can't get a game like "No rest for the wicked" to work and look fine there, they are simply and plainly bad developers.
Re: Ori Dev Asks Nintendo Fans If They Want 'No Rest For The Wicked' On Switch 2
@Max_the_German While there are still lots of games releasing on PS4, even this year, we can just assume some devs just want to release on the newer gen, which is PS5.
I looked at gameplays and trailers of the game, and there's nothing I think couldn't run on PS4.
Re: Nintendo: Switch 2's Backwards Compatibility Feature Is The "Best Direction" For Consumers
@Member_the_game Okie dokie, have a nice day.
Re: Nintendo: Switch 2's Backwards Compatibility Feature Is The "Best Direction" For Consumers
@Member_the_game I don't care if you attack Nintendo, they aren't a family member.
I was just guessing what I believe is the reason for them to release DX versions (make more money because most Wii U games there didn't have a large user base to begin with in order to being successful in sales).
Re: Nintendo: Switch 2's Backwards Compatibility Feature Is The "Best Direction" For Consumers
@Member_the_game While it's obvious they re-released the Wii U games because they are a company and must make money, the Wii U sold 13 million consoles. While the Switch already sold around 146 million consoles.
They didn't sell us "again", they re-released and sold games that a lot of people didn't actually play when they were released on the failed console not many bought.
Even if many of those 146 million consoles are double dips and everyone bought 2 Switch consoles, that's still 73 million vs only 13 million.
I, for one, have not bought any DX game that I had already played on Wii U. But I'm glad lots of people got to play Mario 3D World, Pokken and soon Xenoblade Chronicles X (among many other ports) for the first time.
Re: Nintendo: Switch 2's Backwards Compatibility Feature Is The "Best Direction" For Consumers
@Member_the_game Before the Wii U -> Switch generation change, everything was pretty much retro-compatible for Nintendo when they started with disks.
GameCube -> Wii -> Wii U
If the Wii U hadn't flopped, I'm pretty sure the following console would have still been retro-compatible, even if only with digital titles.
Re: Nintendo Believes In "Giving Proper Credit" After Backlash Over Donkey Kong Country Returns HD
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Re: Retro Staff Credits Removed From Donkey Kong Country Returns HD, Forever Entertainment Confirmed As Devs
@Altaria_97 Retro Studios is a first party developer, that is, a subsidiary of Nintendo. It's like they basically are part of Nintendo as a whole.
Any logo you see in any game after the credits that says "Nintendo", they are included in there.
Also, I know I wouldn't want my name in a half assed port of a game I worked on in the past.
Re: Rusty Rabbit, From The Creator Of Psycho-Pass, Is The Most Bonkers Metroidvania Ever
Kirby: Planet Robobot on steroids, with a bit of SteamWorld Dig.
Re: Rumour: Ubisoft Has "More Than Half A Dozen Games" Planned For Switch 2
@Keman PS4 was old and Sony was already marketing PS5. Of course they said "Old PS4 can't run that"
PS4 could run it if they actually cared about it. It's not a very heavy game when it comes to talk about how many characters or things are happening on screen.
Re: Rumour: Switch Virtual Console Was Apparently Nintendo's "Original Plan"
@kkslider5552000 Imagine you are a 6 year old kid in 2020 and you get to play classic games like Super Mario Bros. 3 or Zelda ALttP in your Switch subscription app your parents pay for you.
Ten years later, in 2030, you want to play those games again on your Switch, just like you did when you were just a kid. And, oh, surprise, the Switch online services are long gone because the newly announced Switch 3 won't be backwards compatible because of specs shenanigans, and they will redo the whole monthly retro releases thing from scratch.
What will you do then if you really want to play those games again?
What will be of your Zelda ALttP save data you made while playing with your dad, looking together for the heart pieces, who already passed away because of a sudden illness? Better forget it.
Re: Talking Point: Everyone Else Is Busy Revealing Switch 2 - What Gives, Nintendo?
@SurprisedRobinChu The thing is, it isn't a problem for them.
Re: Catly Developer Says Game Does Not Use Generative AI, Blockchain Tech, Or NFTs
@VoidofLight Even if that description in Steam could seem ChatGPT, it's as nonsencial of other things human beings actually write.
You can't just start saying humans are perfect and write 100% coherent descriptions all the time just for the sake of saying "that's AI" on something you don't like.
But yeah, the cat designs look like AI. Description is just a lazy human writing.
Re: 3D Print Of Rumoured 'Switch 2' Design Gives Us A Closer Look At OLED Size Comparison
@MrCarlos46 Yes. There's lot of people commenting everywhere about how they think the Switch 2 will come with European SNES-like colored buttons.
Because of recent releases mostly, like the Paper Mario remake, and Mario & Luigi. Although Mario & Luigi has always had that button color pattern. Not sure if there are other recent games that do the button colors.
Re: 3D Print Of Rumoured 'Switch 2' Design Gives Us A Closer Look At OLED Size Comparison
@Pastellioli We're back to Game Boy era. Every Game Boy before the Advance looked pretty much the same, just with different sizes and colors.
Original Game Boy. Game Boy Pocket. Game Boy Light. Even the "succesor", the Game Boy Color, looked pretty much the same.
So, it's not farfetched to say this could very well be the real deal. Larger console, possibly with default multi-colored buttons on the joycons and improved inner specs. After all, it's their most recent successful console, so... Don't fix what isn't broken.
Re: Soapbox: How Nintendo Unexpectedly Taught Me To Love Gacha Games
@Vyacheslav333 I got lots of characters in Fire Emblem Heroes since it launched in 2017.
I've paid zero. Nothing. Nada. So far.
I don't understand how someone could pay 60+ dollars for what's actually free in game if you just wait.
Re: Eiji Aonuma Explains Why Zelda's Gameplay Takes Priority Over Story
@Anti-Matter I hated FFX story. It's full of facepalm moments.
Re: Random: Kit & Krysta Discuss The "Drama" Behind The Switch Reveal Trailer
@Rozetta They asked for a price? Like actually knowing the price of the console? Or what?
Re: Come On, Where Are The Composer Credits in 'Nintendo Music'?
@-wc-
If they deserve credit for their masterpieces, everyone deserve credit for what they do, no mater how "small" you see their jobs when compared to supposed "art".
We need the name of the harvesters in every apple, every tomato and every fruit out there.
Each book, aside from the author, needs to also include the people who operated the printing machines.
We all deserve credit.
Re: Come On, Where Are The Composer Credits in 'Nintendo Music'?
@greengecko007 I make apps as a developer. I've never been credited nor do I care about being credited. I'm paid for it and that's it.
But I'm a none that isn't famous or anything so I can't complain. I don't want to complain, anyway.
What is laughable is that someone is "entitled" to be given credit because of the industry they work on or because they are famous. But some others aren't because working on a different industry or because they aren't known.
When someone whines about not being given credit but it's already a very famous individual, it sounds to me like "Look at me! I'm already famous enough and get lots of money, but I still need to remember all of you how I did that thing, or how I did 40% of the thing you like so much to watch/listen/read, and I don't care if little Jimmy helped me in the other 60% but I won't comment on that"
Anyway. Whatever.
Re: Come On, Where Are The Composer Credits in 'Nintendo Music'?
@greengecko007 ...only if they weren't paid and worked for free. Otherwise, they are just "laboring and producing valuable goods" just like any other worker from any other industry.
If they made those arrangements for free, that's art. Pure art. But they didn't. They were paid by someone else (a company in this case) for making something. That's their job.
Also, if you start getting into the very fine details. What if 15 persons worked on composing an arrangement for one song? Would they need to also explicitly state what exactly each of them made/thought of?
It's just stupid waiting for getting credit for working, like you're entitled to it even after you were already paid for it.
Re: Round Up: QUByte Connect 2024 - Every Switch Game Announcement
Rage of Dragons Neo looks suspiciously similar to Blades & Battles. Hmm...
Re: Switch Emulator Ryujinx Might Not Be Dead, Despite Nintendo's Takedown
@RupeeClock Some people are already playing that game without issues in both Yuzu and Ryujinx. It had random crashes, but most problems were resolved when disabling automatic updates and tweaking some options.
Re: Rumour: Switch 2's Codename Believed To Be In Latest Pokémon Data Leak
@GrailUK they already shared their stance on AI. They aren't getting near that anytime soon.
Re: Nintendo Sound Clock: Alarmo System Update Now Live (Version 2.0.0), Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@rjejr You 10 years ago:
"I can just imagine all the Ntinedo employess looking over the cloud data saying - oh look, rjejr is gettin' some tonight"
Re: "Unsportsmanlike Conduct" Sees Pokémon TCG Player Eliminated At World Championships
@Brianst0rm He was given a loss, not disqualified.
Also, this isn't EA or Ubisoft you're talking about. And while of course there could exist problems, it's not as wrong as a company as those and others.
Re: LEGO Unveils 'Great Deku Tree 2-In-1' Zelda Set, Pre-Orders Now Available
Its MSRP is the equivalent of USD$453, where I live.
WTH Lego?
Re: Video: Digital Foundry Talks 8-Inch 'Switch 2' Screen, Joy-Con Compatibility
@progx If they had released the Switch Lite with HDMI support, I would have bought that. Sadly, they didn't.
Re: 'Switch 2' Will Be An Iterative Evolution And Will Cost $400, Predicts Analyst
Mexico. I was a cashier when it launched. I earned the equivalent of USD$260 monthly. 48 hours of work per week. The console was USD$550.
Re: 'Switch 2' Will Be An Iterative Evolution And Will Cost $400, Predicts Analyst
I got my V1 Switch at the equivalent of USD$550 (that was its MSRP on launch where I live). It costed me around 500 hours of work to gather the money.
Re: Sea Of Stars Developer Sabotage Replacing 'The Completionist' NPC
First world problems.
Re: Random: Super Mario Bros. Wonder Mod Swaps Out Blue Toad For Rosalina
@blindsquirrel This can be done on a real console with a real legit Super Mario Wonder cartridge.
Modded firmware, of course.
Re: Eiji Aonuma Comments On The Possibility Of A Playable Zelda In The Future
Everyone likes to forget about Spirit Tracks. Only one comment about It before me.
Re: Cult Of The Lamb Announces Sins Of The Flesh, Its "Next Free Major Content Update"
I thought they were still deleting their game from digital stores.
Re: Switch Online N64 Controllers Have Been Restocked In North America
I don't see where it was restocked in Mexico.
Re: Soapbox: FOMO Nearly Ruined Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom For Me
@Purgatorium I see what you did there.
I hate acronyms, anyway. It's a stupid and cheap way to talk or write anywhere.
Re: Video: Mario Vs. Donkey Kong Side-By-Side Graphics Comparison (Switch & GBA)
This was a highlight of the Direct. I actually loved to see this with so much improvement in both graphics and gameplay (softer controls from how it looks).