How long will it still be possible to redownload previously purchased content in Nintendo eShop for Wii U or the Nintendo 3DS family of systems?
For the foreseeable future, it will still be possible to redownload games and DLC and receive software updates on Wii U and the Nintendo 3DS family of systems.
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Not only they say this, but I've been replaying some Kirby Planet Robobot, which I just redownloaded last month. So, I know this first hand.
The update advice before the eShop closure came from other users online who had no clue and thought Nintendo would drop redownloads. And/or also people letting others know some updates would not be able to download anymore, because they were treated like a separated game/app and you had to first download once while the eShop was still up so you could redownload it later.
Mario Kart 7 had something like this, I think, and some other 5 games, but it was only a handful of those cases.
I'm sure Nintendo will someday remove the ability to redownload previous console games, but the Wii released back in 2006 and you can still redownload WiiWare and VC titles you bought. There's no reason to think Game Key Cards won't be able to redownload game data in 20 years given that example, even if Switch 3 isn't retrocompatible. Only big reasons that could cause that to happen: apocalyptic event or bankrupcty.
@Jeronan The eShop still opens, but there are no games (for purchase), and there's the notice you can no longer add credit nor buy games. It doesn't close automatically the eShop app.
You can still enter Menu > scroll down to Redownloadable Software > Redownload any game you had previously bought.
Voila! You'll be able to download all your games right now as of May 7th, 2025.
It has always been like this since the shop closed for 3DS and Wii U. I also just redownloaded My Pokémon Ranch on my Wii last week just for checking it out, because someone else said that wasn't possible. It is.
I mean. Maybe there are some countries where what you say happened, but I know for a fact that in USA, Japan, the UK and basically all European eShops allow you to do this.
@Jeronan Please investigate before spreading false information.
You are still able, as of right now in May 2025, to redownload digital 3DS games you bought when the 3DS eShop was still available, from Nintendo servers, by official methods (just open the eShop on your 3DS, enter your profile and look for you purchased games list). And yeah, including game updates. Also, you can still download the game updates themselves if you own cartridges.
Also, you can still redownload Wii U games in your Wii U (previously purchased of course), also Wii Ware games in your Wii (a 19 year old console), and also DSi Ware games in your DSi.
In fact, you may still redownload Tetris (GameBoy) in 3DS if you bought it when it was available. And that game was removed from sale years before the 3DS eShop closed.
Again, please investigate before spreading false info. Thanks.
@KociolekDoSyta Okay. Then I don't understand what people is whining about if you will still be able to re-download Game Key Cards data, at least for the next 20 years.
What's the problem then? If nothing lasts that long.
@larrythumbs Actual Swich 2 game cards (with data inside them) are rumored to be using flash type storage. If true, they will degrade very fast, so they will only be okay for 20-25 years. As in, in 20+ years, game cards will stop working (will have very slow read speed, so, won't work). So you also don't "own" anything with the Swich 2 cards with data in them.
That's not different than Nintendo shutting down servers for redownload in 20+ years.
Info: WiiWare and DsiWare games can still be re-downloaded (if bought before stores closed) right now, even after 19 years of the Wii launch. So no, Nintendo won't close down Switch 2 re-download abilities in less then 20 years (unless they go bankrupt or an apocalyptic event happens).
Nintendo’s Tetsuya Sasaki explained to GameSpot that game-key cards aren’t permanently tied to a specific Nintendo account. The games can be inserted and played on any Switch 2 console, allowing them to be borrowed, rented, and even resold.
“So key cards will start up on the console or system that it is slotted into, so it’s not tied to an account or anything,” said Sasaki.
@WhiteUmbrella For the latest part, most PS5 and Xbox disc games need to be INSTALLED in the system before playing (even if the game data come in the disc), because the disc read speeds are just so slow for some games.
You usually fill a 1TB drive with 5 or 6 games, even if physical (AAA games, most are 120+GB when installed). I see no difference here, filling the 256GB included in the Switch 2 will take 5-6 games.
@DanijoEX-The-Kumiho It's not really obvious. Aside from Joy cons not being able to be attached to the OG Switch because of being smaller physically then the Switch 2; the USB C port, the charger and the HDMI, have no reason to not work on a OG Switch.
HDMI revisions are retrocompatible with devices with older HDMI specs.
Chargers are "intelligent" in a way they wouldn't pass more energy than needed.
And there's no reason the USB C port inside the Switch 2 wouldn't be compatible, other than a intended way to prevent it connecting to the previous console.
@NintendoByNature Daemon X Machine Titanic Scion along with some games from other publishers were confirmed to be game key cards in Japan. There was no official telling about that not being the case in other countries.
@Yomerodes you're right, but no need to have "duplicate game data". It's just that the upgrade pack loads only if it detects a Switch 2 console. Otherwise, it doesn't.
@-wc- Upgrade pack loads from the game card depending on if it detects a Switch 2 or an OG Switch console. That's it. I mean, if this article is to be believed.
We are not sure, yet, if this is a special case where the publisher/developer asked for special Switch 2 cards that can be inserted in the OG Switch or if all Switch 2 Edition cartridges will be like this. We'll know when everything releases.
@Zuljaras Playing the devil's advocate, I hope it's some kind of linking between Switch 2's serial code and the cartridge ID, and that it happens every time you change to a new console, just for identification purposes against Nintendo servers.
Otherwise, it could be something very wrong, like actually linking the game only to one console and not work on anything else.
@Zuljaras We'll see when it releases. But statements from Nintendo themselves suggest otherwise. It's just the data needed to be download, like a game update.
Even if you emailed Nintendo, they usually give copy-pasted answers most times not answering the actual questions.
PS5 physical games also get copied to internal memory, even if the data is in the disc, or download big day one updates, and you still need the disc inserted to play in 99% of the cases.
@Znake You mean like in 20+ years? We can still re-download Wii Ware games on a Wii, and that's a 19 year old console, whose shop games can't be purchased anymore.
I think it's a lot of time okay for re-downloading games. And until they actually remove Wii servers altogether so Wii Ware aren't redownloadable, we won't actually know the time it would take for Nintendo to remove Switch 2 servers.
@GamerOG77 They are afraid they won't be able to play the game when they are 120 years old and Nintendo is long gone (so, no servers for re-downloading the game data).
@Arawn93 I don't care about temporary ownership (like not really owning the games because they'll disappear from their servers one day in the future), because I'm also temporary.
I can still re-download Wii Ware games I bought on the Wii Shop. And that's a 19 year old console by now.
If they support re-downloading your games 20 years from now, it's good enough for me.
@RupeeClock They already confirmed Switch 2 Edition cartridges will actually have all the data in the card, including the Switch 2 upgrade. At least for their first party games, that is.
I'll just end my take saying it's not fair comparing Mario Kart to GTA6. For both games. Each of them got their own demographics targets.
Also, I've found lots of GTA (in Reddit) fans still calling Nintendo a "kids console" and "how could a kid console be that expensive". That's why I started talking about you thinking of Mario Kart as childish.
@Yoshi3 I mean, you said after the price cut, it was still selling with profit for each console.
Sony is selling PS5 Slim (with disc drive) bundled with Astrobot at USD$510 (right now it's USD$449 due to an ongoing sale). So they could have sold Astrobot for only USD$10, but sold it for USD$70 separate from the console.
That's outrageous! I need the $60 extra I paid for it back now.
"The 3DS was originally sold for a profit, however slow hardware sales, forced Nintendo to invoke a drastic price cut - just months after launch. While sales spiked, this also meant that Nintendo, at that time, was selling the 3DS at a loss."
They sold it at a loss, even if not for a long time because after selling so many, it became profitable. Yeah, yeah, the strategy Xbox and Sony do. Whatever.
@Jhena Thing is these aren't really Zelda games. These are Musou games, which is basically a 3D hack and slash game. It's just that these feature Zelda characters and games.
Link will playable in this game for sure, even if latter in the game.
@Dom_31 It will be another What If case. There's no way they leave Link unplayable here. And the only way for making him playable is having that What If set up.
@GoldenSunRM The start of the game (from Age of Calamity) makes it very clear we are witnessing a "What If" or "alternate timeline" events created by the little guardian (forgot its name) traveling to the past when Zelda awakens her powers for protecting a weakened Link from being killed by a Guardian.
Otherwise, it would have been a pointless and depressive game because the outcome was Ganon killing all the Champions, and puting a comatose Link in the recovery shrine.
@Yoshi3 You said they don't have a real reasoning for charging more because Mario Kart World probably has a low budget compared to other games.
We don't know the budget. But we at least know layoffs of hundreds of employees aren't as usual in Nintendo, like they are for Sony, Xbox and other western studios.
If they don't do layoffs that often, they need more money for keeping their employees. Their estimated budgets are miscalculated.
We don't even know how much time MKW has been in development. For all we know, it could have started since the original MK8 release on Wii U back in 2014.
@Yoshi3 You measure games quality with their budget? What?
First. Nintendo never discloses budgets. Rarely at least. That 50 million is an estimated, even you said that.
Who tells you that estimated value isn't miscalculated by people that think similar to you "that childish game can't possible need more than $50 million to make".
The Last of Us 2 $220 million budget was the actual amount Sony disclosed. Did they say that didn't include directors and CEOs bonuses?
Unlike Sony, who layed off 900 people from several studios in 2024, including Naughty Dog's, Nintendo hasn't laid off any significant number of people, or at least not similar to those Sony numbers. They actually need to pay their developers, which means the miscalculated budgets by "industry experts" could be very wrong.
Edit: Just to add, there are way better games than "The Last of Us 2" that could be used as examples. At least "RDR2" would have been a better example.
@The-Chosen-one No. Lots of people still think this way: "looks kind of childish = anyone can develop it in 1 month with no budget", "realistic bloody game = oh, lots of effort and always a masterpiece".
That's a sad reality. So they'll pay $100 for any "realistic looking game" just because they think automatically it got a lot more of effort to develop.
@Yoshi3 So, just say it. You think that of Mario Kart World just because it's "childish looking". And, heavens forbid a "childish looking" game as actually hard to develop and needed lots of effort from lots of people to actually work with all that packed content. Right?
I guess your examples for "better developed games" will be Metroid Prime 4 and any "realistic" PS5 game.
@Oracles_fanboi Key difference is you could not use the console without having a stable internet connection every single day when Xbox One was announced, and that the only way to not require internet was on an Xbox 360. They backtracked after all the backlash of those comments.
In this case, they are just saying you may still use or buy an OG Switch if you don't like/can't buy the Switch 2. Which is not the same at all.
@HammerKirby I mean. I already Googled a lot. I can't find when Bravely Default (the first game) was released in Switch OG. I think it was never released on any Switch before this release, which I thought was a straight to Switch 2 release.
@Anti-Matter So that's like in 20+ years from now? Yeah, I'm fine with that.
I can still re-download my bought WiiWare games from the Wii Shop Channel. And it's been nearly 19 years since then. Even games removed from sale I bought before.
@HammerKirby Maybe they are just greedy. I don't think they'd want to release 10GB Doney Kong Bananza on anything bigger than 16GB card if they can cut costs.
@Ganon821 Thing is Tariffs will have an effect in USA's pricing of the Switch 2. It's hard to leave politics outside a news article that talks about that.
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Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Tells Studios "Do Not Underestimate The Physical Edition"
@Thomystic Switch 2 cartridges seem to be using NAND Flash for storage.
That doesn't last as long as a SNES cartridge, for example. So, expect a life of 20-25 years, maybe even less.
Re: Buy Deltarune On Switch And Get The Switch 2 Version "At No Additional Cost"
@johnedwin What? Why are you commenting that on this article?
This game is a full digital game without cartridge or Game Key Card.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Tells Studios "Do Not Underestimate The Physical Edition"
@Jeronan I add this:
https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/57847/~/wii-u-%26-nintendo-3ds-eshop-discontinuation-q%26a
From that link:
How long will it still be possible to redownload previously purchased content in Nintendo eShop for Wii U or the Nintendo 3DS family of systems?
For the foreseeable future, it will still be possible to redownload games and DLC and receive software updates on Wii U and the Nintendo 3DS family of systems.
====
Not only they say this, but I've been replaying some Kirby Planet Robobot, which I just redownloaded last month. So, I know this first hand.
The update advice before the eShop closure came from other users online who had no clue and thought Nintendo would drop redownloads. And/or also people letting others know some updates would not be able to download anymore, because they were treated like a separated game/app and you had to first download once while the eShop was still up so you could redownload it later.
Mario Kart 7 had something like this, I think, and some other 5 games, but it was only a handful of those cases.
I'm sure Nintendo will someday remove the ability to redownload previous console games, but the Wii released back in 2006 and you can still redownload WiiWare and VC titles you bought. There's no reason to think Game Key Cards won't be able to redownload game data in 20 years given that example, even if Switch 3 isn't retrocompatible. Only big reasons that could cause that to happen: apocalyptic event or bankrupcty.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Tells Studios "Do Not Underestimate The Physical Edition"
@Jeronan The eShop still opens, but there are no games (for purchase), and there's the notice you can no longer add credit nor buy games. It doesn't close automatically the eShop app.
You can still enter Menu > scroll down to Redownloadable Software > Redownload any game you had previously bought.
Voila! You'll be able to download all your games right now as of May 7th, 2025.
It has always been like this since the shop closed for 3DS and Wii U. I also just redownloaded My Pokémon Ranch on my Wii last week just for checking it out, because someone else said that wasn't possible. It is.
I mean. Maybe there are some countries where what you say happened, but I know for a fact that in USA, Japan, the UK and basically all European eShops allow you to do this.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Tells Studios "Do Not Underestimate The Physical Edition"
@Jeronan Please investigate before spreading false information.
You are still able, as of right now in May 2025, to redownload digital 3DS games you bought when the 3DS eShop was still available, from Nintendo servers, by official methods (just open the eShop on your 3DS, enter your profile and look for you purchased games list). And yeah, including game updates. Also, you can still download the game updates themselves if you own cartridges.
Also, you can still redownload Wii U games in your Wii U (previously purchased of course), also Wii Ware games in your Wii (a 19 year old console), and also DSi Ware games in your DSi.
In fact, you may still redownload Tetris (GameBoy) in 3DS if you bought it when it was available. And that game was removed from sale years before the 3DS eShop closed.
Again, please investigate before spreading false info. Thanks.
Re: Former Assassin's Creed Lead Isn't Happy About Switch 2's Game-Key Cards
@WhiteUmbrella https://www.theverge.com/news/644803/nintendo-switch-2-game-key-cards-trade-borrow-resell
Nintendo’s Tetsuya Sasaki explained to GameSpot:
“So key cards will start up on the console or system that it is slotted into, so it’s not tied to an account or anything,” said Sasaki.
Did you even read this part?
WILL START UP
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Tells Studios "Do Not Underestimate The Physical Edition"
@KociolekDoSyta Okay. Then I don't understand what people is whining about if you will still be able to re-download Game Key Cards data, at least for the next 20 years.
What's the problem then? If nothing lasts that long.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Tells Studios "Do Not Underestimate The Physical Edition"
@larrythumbs Actual Swich 2 game cards (with data inside them) are rumored to be using flash type storage. If true, they will degrade very fast, so they will only be okay for 20-25 years. As in, in 20+ years, game cards will stop working (will have very slow read speed, so, won't work). So you also don't "own" anything with the Swich 2 cards with data in them.
That's not different than Nintendo shutting down servers for redownload in 20+ years.
Info: WiiWare and DsiWare games can still be re-downloaded (if bought before stores closed) right now, even after 19 years of the Wii launch. So no, Nintendo won't close down Switch 2 re-download abilities in less then 20 years (unless they go bankrupt or an apocalyptic event happens).
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Tells Studios "Do Not Underestimate The Physical Edition"
@larrythumbs If a Nintendo representative said that, you could say bye to lots of third party ports/games.
Re: Former Assassin's Creed Lead Isn't Happy About Switch 2's Game-Key Cards
@WhiteUmbrella https://www.theverge.com/news/644803/nintendo-switch-2-game-key-cards-trade-borrow-resell
Nintendo’s Tetsuya Sasaki explained to GameSpot that game-key cards aren’t permanently tied to a specific Nintendo account. The games can be inserted and played on any Switch 2 console, allowing them to be borrowed, rented, and even resold.
“So key cards will start up on the console or system that it is slotted into, so it’s not tied to an account or anything,” said Sasaki.
Re: Former Assassin's Creed Lead Isn't Happy About Switch 2's Game-Key Cards
@WhiteUmbrella For the latest part, most PS5 and Xbox disc games need to be INSTALLED in the system before playing (even if the game data come in the disc), because the disc read speeds are just so slow for some games.
You usually fill a 1TB drive with 5 or 6 games, even if physical (AAA games, most are 120+GB when installed). I see no difference here, filling the 256GB included in the Switch 2 will take 5-6 games.
Re: Switch 2's Dock Isn't Compatible With The Original Switch, According To Nintendo
@DanijoEX-The-Kumiho It's not really obvious. Aside from Joy cons not being able to be attached to the OG Switch because of being smaller physically then the Switch 2; the USB C port, the charger and the HDMI, have no reason to not work on a OG Switch.
HDMI revisions are retrocompatible with devices with older HDMI specs.
Chargers are "intelligent" in a way they wouldn't pass more energy than needed.
And there's no reason the USB C port inside the Switch 2 wouldn't be compatible, other than a intended way to prevent it connecting to the previous console.
Re: Marvelous USA Confirms Its Switch 2 Physical Releases Will Contain The "Full Game"
@NintendoByNature Daemon X Machine Titanic Scion along with some games from other publishers were confirmed to be game key cards in Japan. There was no official telling about that not being the case in other countries.
https://x.com/gematsu/status/1915117805499777329
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@RubyCarbuncle Yeah but when? It's still TBD.
It's been 20 years (nearly) since the Wii release. If the Switch 2 game servers are okay until 2045 I'll be okay with that.
Re: Switch 2 GameCube Controller Compatible With Other Games, But There May Be Some "Issues"
@Galaxy2IsTheGOAT Yes. You may play any game using the Switch Gamecube adapter.
Re: Rune Factory: Guardians Of Azuma Switch 2 Cart Will Apparently Also Work On Switch 1
@Yomerodes you're right, but no need to have "duplicate game data". It's just that the upgrade pack loads only if it detects a Switch 2 console. Otherwise, it doesn't.
Re: Rune Factory: Guardians Of Azuma Switch 2 Cart Will Apparently Also Work On Switch 1
@-wc- Upgrade pack loads from the game card depending on if it detects a Switch 2 or an OG Switch console. That's it. I mean, if this article is to be believed.
We are not sure, yet, if this is a special case where the publisher/developer asked for special Switch 2 cards that can be inserted in the OG Switch or if all Switch 2 Edition cartridges will be like this. We'll know when everything releases.
Re: Uh Oh, It Looks Like Select Switch 2 Games Won't Support Cloud Saves
@Sebos this is exactly the reason. The same reason Pokemon games never ever get to have any kind of save backup officially.
The official Virtual Console 3DS releases of the Game Boy games didn't have a save/restore state button, like every other game.
They don't want people duplicating items easily.
Anyway, that seems weird for Bananza. Maybe there are ways to share items or something, and that would be the same reason.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@Zuljaras Playing the devil's advocate, I hope it's some kind of linking between Switch 2's serial code and the cartridge ID, and that it happens every time you change to a new console, just for identification purposes against Nintendo servers.
Otherwise, it could be something very wrong, like actually linking the game only to one console and not work on anything else.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@Zuljaras I stand corrected. Thanks.
This actually raises some questions.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@Zuljaras We'll see when it releases. But statements from Nintendo themselves suggest otherwise. It's just the data needed to be download, like a game update.
Even if you emailed Nintendo, they usually give copy-pasted answers most times not answering the actual questions.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@Alcea Just like a physical cartridge, yeah.
PS5 physical games also get copied to internal memory, even if the data is in the disc, or download big day one updates, and you still need the disc inserted to play in 99% of the cases.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@Alcea Game Key Cards can be booted without a Nintendo account and without your console being online.
Given you download the data beforehand, of course. After that, no more online needed at all.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@Znake You mean like in 20+ years? We can still re-download Wii Ware games on a Wii, and that's a 19 year old console, whose shop games can't be purchased anymore.
I think it's a lot of time okay for re-downloading games. And until they actually remove Wii servers altogether so Wii Ware aren't redownloadable, we won't actually know the time it would take for Nintendo to remove Switch 2 servers.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@Jaw005 In 20-ish years? That's okay for most people, or at least for me.
I can still re-download Wii Ware games I bought on Wii Shop Channel back in the day. The Wii was released 19 years ago.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@Arawn93 Thanks.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@GamerOG77 They are afraid they won't be able to play the game when they are 120 years old and Nintendo is long gone (so, no servers for re-downloading the game data).
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@Arawn93 I don't care about temporary ownership (like not really owning the games because they'll disappear from their servers one day in the future), because I'm also temporary.
I can still re-download Wii Ware games I bought on the Wii Shop. And that's a 19 year old console by now.
If they support re-downloading your games 20 years from now, it's good enough for me.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@RupeeClock They already confirmed Switch 2 Edition cartridges will actually have all the data in the card, including the Switch 2 upgrade. At least for their first party games, that is.
https://www.ign.com/articles/switch-2-edition-games-contain-both-the-game-and-the-upgrade-on-the-cart-nintendo-clarifies
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Comments On Switch 2's "Hefty" Price Hikes
@Yoshi3 Have a nice day.
I'll just end my take saying it's not fair comparing Mario Kart to GTA6. For both games. Each of them got their own demographics targets.
Also, I've found lots of GTA (in Reddit) fans still calling Nintendo a "kids console" and "how could a kid console be that expensive". That's why I started talking about you thinking of Mario Kart as childish.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Comments On Switch 2's "Hefty" Price Hikes
@Yoshi3 I was trying to be sarcastic. I forgot the /s.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Comments On Switch 2's "Hefty" Price Hikes
@Yoshi3 I mean, you said after the price cut, it was still selling with profit for each console.
Sony is selling PS5 Slim (with disc drive) bundled with Astrobot at USD$510 (right now it's USD$449 due to an ongoing sale). So they could have sold Astrobot for only USD$10, but sold it for USD$70 separate from the console.
That's outrageous! I need the $60 extra I paid for it back now.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Comments On Switch 2's "Hefty" Price Hikes
@Yoshi3
https://gamerant.com/nintendo-selling-3ds-profitable/
"The 3DS was originally sold for a profit, however slow hardware sales, forced Nintendo to invoke a drastic price cut - just months after launch. While sales spiked, this also meant that Nintendo, at that time, was selling the 3DS at a loss."
They sold it at a loss, even if not for a long time because after selling so many, it became profitable. Yeah, yeah, the strategy Xbox and Sony do. Whatever.
Re: Nintendo: Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment Is A "Canonical Tale"
@Jhena Thing is these aren't really Zelda games. These are Musou games, which is basically a 3D hack and slash game. It's just that these feature Zelda characters and games.
Link will playable in this game for sure, even if latter in the game.
Re: Nintendo: Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment Is A "Canonical Tale"
@Dom_31 It will be another What If case. There's no way they leave Link unplayable here. And the only way for making him playable is having that What If set up.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Comments On Switch 2's "Hefty" Price Hikes
@Oracles_fanboi I didn't insult anyone in any way on any of my comments, though, yet you just called me a "sheep".
If I can pay for it, I will. If some people need to stop eating for getting a new console, well, they shouldn't.
If I was starving, I wouldn't waste my hard earned money on anything else than food.
Re: Nintendo: Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment Is A "Canonical Tale"
@GoldenSunRM The start of the game (from Age of Calamity) makes it very clear we are witnessing a "What If" or "alternate timeline" events created by the little guardian (forgot its name) traveling to the past when Zelda awakens her powers for protecting a weakened Link from being killed by a Guardian.
Otherwise, it would have been a pointless and depressive game because the outcome was Ganon killing all the Champions, and puting a comatose Link in the recovery shrine.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Comments On Switch 2's "Hefty" Price Hikes
@Yoshi3 The Last of Us 2 wasn't made from the ground up if we start talking about that. Yet they had a $220 million budget according to Sony.
MKW looks nothing like MK8. And if you think it does, well, that's a lot of bias against it. You just don't like Mario Kart, and that's okay.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Comments On Switch 2's "Hefty" Price Hikes
@Yoshi3 And we will never know the official budget, nor any specific numbers, so you win I guess.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Comments On Switch 2's "Hefty" Price Hikes
@Yoshi3 You said they don't have a real reasoning for charging more because Mario Kart World probably has a low budget compared to other games.
We don't know the budget. But we at least know layoffs of hundreds of employees aren't as usual in Nintendo, like they are for Sony, Xbox and other western studios.
If they don't do layoffs that often, they need more money for keeping their employees. Their estimated budgets are miscalculated.
We don't even know how much time MKW has been in development. For all we know, it could have started since the original MK8 release on Wii U back in 2014.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Comments On Switch 2's "Hefty" Price Hikes
@Yoshi3 You measure games quality with their budget? What?
First. Nintendo never discloses budgets. Rarely at least. That 50 million is an estimated, even you said that.
Who tells you that estimated value isn't miscalculated by people that think similar to you "that childish game can't possible need more than $50 million to make".
The Last of Us 2 $220 million budget was the actual amount Sony disclosed. Did they say that didn't include directors and CEOs bonuses?
Unlike Sony, who layed off 900 people from several studios in 2024, including Naughty Dog's, Nintendo hasn't laid off any significant number of people, or at least not similar to those Sony numbers. They actually need to pay their developers, which means the miscalculated budgets by "industry experts" could be very wrong.
Edit: Just to add, there are way better games than "The Last of Us 2" that could be used as examples. At least "RDR2" would have been a better example.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Comments On Switch 2's "Hefty" Price Hikes
@The-Chosen-one No. Lots of people still think this way: "looks kind of childish = anyone can develop it in 1 month with no budget", "realistic bloody game = oh, lots of effort and always a masterpiece".
That's a sad reality. So they'll pay $100 for any "realistic looking game" just because they think automatically it got a lot more of effort to develop.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Comments On Switch 2's "Hefty" Price Hikes
@Yoshi3 So, just say it. You think that of Mario Kart World just because it's "childish looking". And, heavens forbid a "childish looking" game as actually hard to develop and needed lots of effort from lots of people to actually work with all that packed content. Right?
I guess your examples for "better developed games" will be Metroid Prime 4 and any "realistic" PS5 game.
Re: Some Fans Are Drawing Unfavourable Comparisons Between Switch 2 And Xbox One
@Oracles_fanboi Key difference is you could not use the console without having a stable internet connection every single day when Xbox One was announced, and that the only way to not require internet was on an Xbox 360. They backtracked after all the backlash of those comments.
In this case, they are just saying you may still use or buy an OG Switch if you don't like/can't buy the Switch 2. Which is not the same at all.
Re: Konami Appears To Be Releasing Suikoden I & II HD Remaster On Switch 2
@HammerKirby I mean. I already Googled a lot. I can't find when Bravely Default (the first game) was released in Switch OG. I think it was never released on any Switch before this release, which I thought was a straight to Switch 2 release.
Re: Switch 2 Game-Key Cards Aren't Tied To Nintendo Accounts
@Anti-Matter So that's like in 20+ years from now? Yeah, I'm fine with that.
I can still re-download my bought WiiWare games from the Wii Shop Channel. And it's been nearly 19 years since then. Even games removed from sale I bought before.
I won't be here forever.
Re: Konami Appears To Be Releasing Suikoden I & II HD Remaster On Switch 2
@Riverlution Bravely Default Flying Fairy released on Switch 1?
What? When did that happen?
Re: Konami Appears To Be Releasing Suikoden I & II HD Remaster On Switch 2
@Poco_Lypso Some physical games can't be played without Day One patches. Its kind of similar to that scenario, except you download the full game.
Other than that, you can resell the cartrdige or lend it without problems.
Re: Konami Appears To Be Releasing Suikoden I & II HD Remaster On Switch 2
@HammerKirby Maybe they are just greedy. I don't think they'd want to release 10GB Doney Kong Bananza on anything bigger than 16GB card if they can cut costs.
Re: Nintendo Of America President Says Tariffs "Not Factored" Into Switch 2 Price
@Ganon821 Thing is Tariffs will have an effect in USA's pricing of the Switch 2. It's hard to leave politics outside a news article that talks about that.