
If you've been browsing social media for the past few days (heck, let's not kid ourselves, past few years) you'll have seen plenty of prognosticating about the arrival of the Switch successor.
The latest whispers suggested that Wednesday 8th January was the first sensible day after the holidays for Nintendo to finally pull back the curtain on 'Switch 2'. With everyone across all territories back in the office, it made sense to put all the rumours to bed with an official reveal in early January.
But here we are, knee-deep in news about the console, yet none of it's coming from Nintendo.
Nope, it's peripheral manufacturers who are delivering the goods, or at least the only details going. Accessory maker Genki flagged last week that it planned to show and discuss Switch 2 and its lineup of peripherals at CES 2025, and they've made good on their promise. In fact, Genki's trailer gives us probably the most polished look at the unannounced hardware we've had.
The firm's rendering of the system is naturally enclosed in its upcoming "NS2" case — let's not forget the whole reason so many accessory makers are eager to get out ahead of an official announcement — but the general layout conforms to the leaked details we've been seeing since the first supposed hardware shots appeared online back in September.
And it's not just Genki. Peripheral companies all over the place are getting in on the act. Dbrand was the first out of the gate, of course, and today Funlab has jumped on the bandwagon:
Elsewhere, Felipe Lima of Universo Nintendo claims to have an accurate mock-up of the final Switch 2 logo, as provided by a source. It looks essentially the same as the logo we've been seeing for weeks (a big '2' whacked beside the Joy-Con symbols) and there's a more-than-decent chance it's legit, too.
With this total frenzy of details and speculation, the big question is WHY AREN'T YOU JUST ANNOUNCING THE THING, NINTENDO!?!?!? Are you going to sit back while every case manufacturer on the block pulls the same stunt? Surely as the platform holder you want to get out there and get a handle on the messaging before every chip has been torn down, every transistor counted, every secret revealed? Getting all your ducks in a row is fine, but the reveal was planned months ago, surely? You've got the trailer sitting on a hard drive ready to go, right?
It's perplexing, infuriating, exhausting... but maybe 'frenzy' is the key word there. The internet is getting a little unhinged (well, a little more than usual, if that's possible), but you can't buy this sort of marketing. #NintendoSwitch2 is trending very nicely thank-you-very-much, and Nintendo's team has done precisely nothing to get it there.

It's also worth remembering that, from a certain perspective (and assuming the authentic-looking leaks are true), this is perhaps the least exciting Nintendo system reveal in the company's history. Don't get us wrong - we're hugely excited to see the final product and drool over insanely hi-res official renders, and we cannot wait to finally get our hands on this thing and play new games on new Nintendo hardware. It doesn't get much better than that!
But, from a plain old hardware perspective, it's looking like exactly the thing we were speculating was in the works five years ago when we were dreaming of 'Switch Pro'. Bigger screen, more power, 4K upscaling in the dock - you name it, it was rumoured long, long ago.
That's what you get with an iterative update with a sensible name and a sound business plan to make as many units as possible before launch. New Nintendo hardware is never dull, but this one doesn't even have the namesake gimmick of autostereoscopic 3D screens. This has been the most known of quantities for ages.
Yet here we are, all on absolute tenterhooks awaiting the official acknowledgement and announcement. Nintendo must have planned for this — you don't manufacture millions of machines and manage to keep them totally under wraps — which means this is all part of its plan. Nintendo will not be rushed.

And really, what is the rush when what you're revealing is essentially 'another one of those'? Switch 2 has the potential to be up there with the best of gaming's number twos: Sonic 2. PS2. Galaxy 2. We love a good '2' (ahem), but being a known quantity is the nature of the beast with direct sequels.
Nintendo's biggest problem is avoiding the reveal being a total anticlimax, so it's natural that everyone — including us — wants them to just get on with it. But having been in this state for so long, and with the console apparently exactly what we thought it would be half a decade ago, perhaps an anticlimactic reveal is inevitable and this is the best approach they've got. Like any good DJ, Nintendo is waiting to drop the needle when the crowd just can't take it anymore.
Just be careful out there. Switch's getting wild.
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Hopefully they have some master plan figured out to blow us all away. At least the software end of it can still do that since that’s been almost totally silent.
That 2 logo is not great 😝
I do feel like other people revealing it first is going to take a lot of the excitement out of the announcement. They really should've announced it before sending out the details to accessory manufacturers, even if it was just a hardware reveal without the software yet. Kind of embarrassing if the logo's already out there too.
Yeah I think Nintendo is flirting with anti-climax here. But the software will save them! New Mario covers all sins!
@MSaturn A while back there was a rumour that the Mario Odyssey team was working on a 3D Donkey Kong platformer instead...
More time for developers to cook perhaps? Last I heard, some indie devs still didn't have a dev kit.
Keep in mind that we knew about funny screen controller months before E3 2011.
It’s these constant rumour articles and whispers and spec leaks that are getting out of hand. I’m ready when Nintendo is ready, I still have plenty of backlog right now anyway.
(Plus, I’m a grown-ass man and I can wait until the end of March, which would be the very latest…)
From what we've seen the past few days, it looks more or less like a Switch (1), just bigger. So yeah, you could argue it's basically just a Switch Pro (think OG 3DS to New 3DS progression) and not something entirely new.
If so it will be entirely down to the games to prove it's worth buying.
P.S. I didn’t even read the article because I know it won’t give me the answers we’re all eventually anticipating 🤷🏻♂️
My guess is they're having issues with the launch lineup. There's been rumors about Nintendo internally delaying it from 2024 because they couldn't get the games ready. And since one of the rumored games is an open world 3D Mario... yeah I could see that pushing the Switch 2 launch an uncomfortable amount of time. Remember how painful it was waiting for BotW and TotK and they had multiple delays? Probably a similar scenario here, they just don't want to publicly announce a delay of a new console, so they just gave us a wide window and it's panned out to be the worst case scenario.
All these leaks are free publicity and hype that Nintendo doesn't have to pay for.
Easy.
It isn’t all about the hardware. It’s also about the software. And that remains a complete mystery so far.
Everyone acting like things leaking about the system is going to hurt it are out of their minds. The amount of people that are on the internet looking at leaked gaming info is such an extreme minority of people who already had their mind made up about buying it or not. Same thing happens with the big name phone brands and yet the vast majority of people find out about it only when it's officially announced and it has no impact on sales. Everyone needs to cool it imo
@shgamer Fzero alone would make it worth buying.
You know it'll happen 😉
@batmanbud2 I hope so for you, if it's your "thing"
I'm so torn on how I feel about this. Its disappointing to see its virtually the same look as the original, but what were we expecting with next Switch look?
On the other hand, if Nintendo is remaining quiet in these leaks, that makes me believe they have a feature set and/or game list that is sure to knock our socks off.
Other than the mystery of the C-button, I can hardly get myself worked up about the new system reveal. For me, it's all about the games. This is an iterative console, akin to the SNES, Gamecube, and WiiU.
I'll save my uber hype for Nintendo's next revolutionary system, i.e. the big VR headset, the Nintendo Super Virtual Boy!
Followed most of these articles in recent weeks. Some leaks might be genuine, some might not. Hasn't spoiled my excitement because the real excitement is the new games that will be available.
All about the games people.
It will be pretty underwhelming when the announcement drops. Granted, we have no idea, only vague clues about the system seller games coming in the first year. We also have nothing major coming in February, so something has to be announced this month. Maybe in the next 2 weeks. When in doubt we always get a direct in February so maybe then
I think it's probably a good thing that the whole "it just looks like the first Switch" thing is out in the open ahead of the official reveal, as that's not exactly going to spark a lot of excitement anyway. They just need to kill it with the software lineup.
more things are revealed every day what is nintendo doing.. as a company nintendo is so stubborn it's there way or the highway as far as nintendo is concerned..
I agree there’s no rush, but we could see a Direct this month, maybe as soon as next week.
@8bit-Man
The launch line-up is indeed a big source of the excitement beyond the hardware.
Honestly? I do not care when the announcement comes; I just want to know what software we are getting!!
Never really been too fussed about what the hardware is going to be, so most of the rumours have had little interest.
I'm excited to see the launch lineup of games, the actual exciting part of the video game hobby.
And I'm very interested in the price when that gets announcedt,though perhaps worried is a better term to use.
Nintendo's watching all us fools be wrong and they're gonna reveal Wii U2. ;P
(Please no, Nintendo, I want that Switch successor, whatever you call it. ;_; )
We’ve seen a 3D print out of a slightly larger Switch. Undoubtedly that will be the Switch 2, but without the games we don’t know the stuff that matters.
There's nothing more frustrating than being a Nintendo fan and trying to figure out why Nintendo makes the business decisions they do. From punishing die hard fans for harmless fan art, litigating instead of just creating, squeezing every last cent of profit from underpowered hardware, and spewing acid on anyone that dares touch their IP. Nintendo's business practices are frustrating, annoying and sometimes infuriating. But they're not nonsensical. They know that their strength is the games and their IP's and the entire business is there just to protect and reinforce that, because that's all they have. The Switch 2 was always gonna be what it is, and its not groundbreaking. The real seller of the Switch 2 are the games, and Nintendo wants to showcase an impressive line up from the beginning. So they don't care if people leak the hell out of the system, but there's a reason we haven't seen any game leaks yet.
Come on, the thing could leak in it's entirety the day before it's planned release and Nintendo would still not acknowledge the leaks. And quite rightly so. Folk are just chasing clicks. Aaand I hate to break it to y'all, but it's probably the same tiny bubble that's clicking. Controlling the message to Switch 2 grifters is piffle. What are they talking about. They'll be controlling the messaging to the broader audience thank you very much. Let the couple of hundred Famiboard posters and the dozen or so folk churning out videos from reading said forums have their melt downs I say. I mean...whoreads a forum post or a tweet and thinks "I can make a 20 minute video on this". Worse still, who watches the 20 minute video instead of just reading the post lol.
@canaryfarmer Maybe that's the name -
Nintendo Switch?
And you pronounce it with the lift in your voice like you're asking a question. Imagine everyone's comparisons to the Wii U confusion then!
@tdub154420 A true Nintendo fan just appreciats the games they make. A nutcase tries to figure out how they operate. I mean, they like to surprise their fans. They take risks trying to be different or do something new. And the problem with that is noone has made all the mistakes yet. But that's their DNA. Where's the sense trying to figure that out. Or maybe that's all there is to figure out. Just be thankful someone isn't trying to standardise the video game industry so they can profit easier from it. It's quite nauseating to hear folk on Youtube claim they know how they work...and be wrong time and time and time again.
@AG_Awesome I'm counting on it. I hope it blows us away. I was pretty excited about all of that for Wii U. Some of those features were better supported than others.
I don't really mind, once it's properly announced I'll pay attention, just hoping for a screen as good as the current OLED out of the gate (in addition to more great games of course).
I still think it’s entirely possible that we’ve still only seen speculative mockups. Only because every leak looks a little different, and we haven’t seen the full console face on convincingly. Could be wrong, but Nintendo not scrambling to take stuff down is kind of an indicator. They can totally strike down and ruin these third parties….so why aren’t they? Idk, all kinda fishy
I pretty much just want to buy the thing now please. my OG switch needs to rest
Am I the only one avoiding Switch 2 spoilers? Like, I fast scrolled through this article in case there are leaked photos in it. I'm really hoping to make it to the Direct for my first visual and details on the device. Also, does NL consider these spoilers? Is there a spoiler alert policy or "reveal spoiler" functionality?
I feel like we may not get a reveal until after DKCRHD releases.
Also, Wii U was way different. So much more than an iteration on the Wii. It introduced a lot of ideas and forms of gameplay and connectivity.
I really hope Nintendo does the official reveal before someone can leak footage from an actual new game. That would suck.
What if Nintendo resets their internal countdown every time something gets leaked? Like if you're trying to practice and improve at something, i.e. 10 basketball shots made before I stop, and if I miss, I have to start all over. Maybe they push back the reveal one week every time we see someone else share info about the console?
Kind of early in the year to complain about this. Back when they announced they would reveal the console by March 2025, people clung to the hope that it would be revealed before then.
That was their mistake.
The hardware at this point is largely irrelevant. Exclusive Software and how the hardware utilizes new technology are the selling features. Don’t pretend like you know everything yet.
I don’t see any problem:
Result: Nintendo will stick to its plan, rightfully so.
Maybe they’ll show it when everyone stops whining about it
@Ristar24 That’s all I want these leaks to address is if there will be an OLED version at launch. As massive an upgrade as the new hardware will be, it’ll feel like a downgrade in a way going back to LCD. I don’t want to have to upgrade AGAIN down the line in another year for the OLED version.
@AussieMcBucket That makes zero sense. They run a business, they’re not bratty 12 year olds.
@AussieMcBucket The "?" logo in the image is fun and Would Support 😄! I meant the 'official' logo linked in the article!
When Nintendo finally reveals the thing I hope we have more of a focus on software in the initial trailer, because we seemingly already know most things about the hardware
We all know now what it looks like and does and its rough capabilities and power.
The games now is where Nintendo need to take the action. What are the release day games from Nintendo in house AAA studios.
One thing for sure if they release without a new Nintendo in house AAA studios game 3d platform like Mario or DK I probably won’t buy day one.
Metroid 4 will be on original Switch
And third party games that have released on other consoles already like the Batman just won’t cut it.
And why? It’s been 8 long bloody years for the Switch 2 and only one new 3d Mario platform from Nintendo studios on original switch.
If we don’t get one on console release, frankly it’s a joke and what else have Nintendo in house studios been doing for the last two years, on vacation.
@AussieMcBucket It won't be, but in another place some suggested Swiitch as the name, lol.
As many other comments have said, I bet the launch presentation will be as much, if not more, about the release titles.
Sorry but only the naive listen to these rumours. Wait for the actual announcement instead of being strung along like a puppet by liars.
Part of me hopes that they reveal all the leaks were fakes, secretly being fed to businesses by Nintendo to suss out who they can cut ties with.
You answered it: free marketing. Nintendo gets it all the time thanks to their mystique they've managed to cultivate. All that has to happen is they don't say anything, don't have a direct when people expect it, and the fires stoke themselves and continue to do so no matter how long it stretches on. It's incredible, really. And surely their team is seeing this unfold again.
@N00BiSH yeah just whip their licences away… 😂
The switch 2 already has the biggest free advertising ever 😂 Nintendo is just sitting back and scrolling trough all the Adds. They just have to reveal the machine and some games and they are done lol.
The latest rumour going round now, is an April release date by the third party firms.
No games have been shown or leaked really. Shareholders want to avoid 30 day returns on 2024 purchases. Hardware is pretty similar, so clearly Nintendo is not concerned with hardware leaks when no software has been shown yet.
@GrailUK that's my thing - even if thousands of ppl are talking about it, there are millions of switch users who don't follow or doesn't hold too strong an interest, everyone's probably still playing with their holiday presents without a care
Honestly, I need this announcement soon or I'll go nuts. Again.
Still hyped for a new console from Big N and some fresh games.
@AussieMcBucket upward inflection in a proper Aussie style, it could catch on...
I'm losing enthusiasm by the day at this point.
From what we know it looks like being an upgrade rather than a new console and it feels like it is missing that Nintendo magic.
All these leaks mean we won't even get to delight in the surprise of the reveal and quite honestly it is a real shame.
I think they are going with the gta6 approach: the more people are searching for rumors or leaks, the discussion around the switch 2 is bigger than what a trailer reveal would bring
Occam's Razor time: they're not announcing it until they're 100% ready to deliver on what they announce because they are a publicly-traded company. If they announce a 2025 release date and it slips to 2026 it would really hurt the stock price. They're just making sure all t's are crossed and i's are dotted before announcing.
I fully expect to wake up one morning to: oh, ya, while you were asleep, the Switch 2 was revealed in Japan. /shrug
The leans are getting so out of hand that I have a feeling Nintendo is making everyone else reveal the system on purpose just so they can let the software do the talking when they do eventually reveal it.
But as a fan, I am steadily growing incredibly tired of all these leaks, rumors, and whatnot. I just want the lid to be officially be lifted and for this stupid thing to be shown officially already. I don't remember it ever being this bad for their past systems.
They're gonna have to have some really cool features that HAVEN'T been leaked yet to actually make the reveal exciting, because pretty much everything else about the system is already out in the open at this point
Seems I am the only happy to know that Switch 2 will be an iterative console taking it from a great one. I have a massive, beautiful, physical backlog of games that I am ready to play already, now with the Switch, tomorrow with a Switch 2, hopefully with shorter loading times and upscaling on. 🤟🫶
People said the same things about the PS5 Pro when we knew most of the things about that before it was ever officially announced because you cannot keep a lid on something that needs to be manufactured in a factory, but also it didn’t really matter.
I don’t care what the thing IS I want to know what it DOES, and for the most part other than knowing it will do most everything the Switch does because it’s backwards compatible and I guess the superficial ***** I don’t feel like I know that at all. UI, games, new features that aren’t on the old model and how they are used. I don’t feel much of that has been made clear at all.
What are the odds that we haven't actually had a legit look at any part of the Switch 2? Like how did they manage to keep the original completely under wraps until their announcement, but this time it's all over the place?
@Clyde_Radcliffe that would also be very cool.
is it really switch 2 they shown or just 3d print of what they think?
I finding this article and the constant ‘rumour’ articles a bit ridiculous now. How many more lies are you going to print, or is the reveal happening in the next couple of hours?
@Clyde_Radcliffe I thought the rumor was that the game was 2.5D and honestly, I LOVE DK but I don't think that gets prioritized over Mario
People expect Nintendo to announce the Switch 2 a mere two weeks after millions of kids just received the old Switch as a Christmas present? Gamers on the internet always think the world revolves around them.
@MasterGraveheart Wii U2 would've been a cool name for an online service (we, you too)
"That's what you get with an iterative update with a sensible name and a sound business plan to make as many units as possible before launch"
I suspect the sheer "normal and sensible"-ness of that is why Nintendo has been doing weird stuff like Alarmo, they have to "get the weird out".
-I do think we are at the edge of anti-climax. Take the "mouse" thing, if that's true then that's a big twist spoiled, and if it's not real then disappointment.
@Slobbert Hahaha, I was just having a bit of fun. And how does that make one a "bratty 12-year-old?"
@canaryfarmer Haha!
Ohhh. I hate the supposedly leaked logos. It's the exact same, with a "2" next to it. Terrible design.
@sevex based on the reports the Switch 2 was delayed so Nintendo could get the games ready (and build up stock), and that's why it's accessory makers doing all the spoiling (almost certain those black joycons from last week are from the genki mock up)
It's worth remembering the Switch was "exposed" by Eurogamer before it's reveal too.
@sevex It would be such an amazing sleight of hand.
The anonymous leaks are one thing, but I have no idea what's going through the minds of the proper companies who presumably signed a massive stack of legal documents saying "we won't share this ahead of time." Unless they're just going for a "You can't sue all of us" strategy, the only possibilities I see are that there's some legal deadline Nintendo's fallen behind, that Nintendo's intentionally letting them get any potential hardware controversy out of the way before aiming to wow us with software, or that these companies never actually got the hardware specs from Nintendo, and are just going off leaked info themselves.
@Slobbert Yeah I agree, I'd rather pay more for an OLED version to begin with. Would feel like a downgrade to have a less vibrant screen, even if the graphics were better. Those true blacks on the OLED really make a difference for the atmosphere in a lot of games.
I honestly believe that Nintendo will not be releasing a Switch 2 but a completely different system and these Switch 2 leaks are a smoke screen. I still think that Nintendo will have a hybrid system but no more joycons and a way to cast what's on the handheld to the TV, sort of like the WiiU did.
@CammyUnofficial Exactly Cam Buuut, what do we know. It's getting revealed 'soon'(tm) so just keep smashing that like button and subscribe if you haven't already lol. I wonder how many times that solitatary tweet from Mr Furukawa telling everyone to calm it about the Switch successor, they'll talk about it when they are ready has appeared at the start of a Youtube video lol.
@abe_hikura
Well reports also said stuff like this in 2021
“Nintendo Plans on Releasing Major New Games in 2021 to Boost Switch Pro Launch”
People are setting themselves up for disappointment if they keep thinking that a downturn in Nintendo’s release schedule means that they are building towards a constant flow of big games.
This is likely to be the first time that Nintendo labels its console with a '2'. It kinda tells us everything we need to know, which is don't expect much other than 'bigger is better'. I hope the Switch 2's successor offers more surprises. I imagine Nintendo has been working on it for a while now.
@Anachronism Agreed. It is puzzling.
@Bolt_Strike stop it man. you even think that the nintendo switch 2 will sell just like the n64 or even gamecube. you have already made yourself unbelievable. If you know the sales history of portable Nintendo consoles, you know that none have ever flopped. In Japan alone, the Nintendo Switch successor will sell 30 million.
@Ristar24 Totally. And a color I actually want. I'm hoping maybe they'll let us customize our orders, but it's probably a pipe dream.
@harrystein I'd love that just for the sheer madness of it.
But also, many of the "iterative" consoles they've released have not sold as well, particularly in this more modern era. Innovation helps them stand out from the crowd. At this point, we would be paying a lot more to have a console that measures up to Sony's or Microsoft's. And since they don't expect their entire audience will go for that, they've chosen another approach. This started in the Wii era, basically. They chose the other path at the fork in the road. I thought they had learned their lesson.
But, we know nothing for sure. And I suspect there could be a lot more we don't know even if these leaks are accurate. So I'm still looking forward to it.
@Bolt_Strike @Bolt_Strike Nintendo has made an excellent decision not to release the Switch 2 in 2024. Oct-Dem sales figures show that the current switch only sold 5% less than the previous year in Oct-Dec.
@8bit-Man @AG_Awesome That could very well be what it is. Maybe they're trying to get enough games in a state to where they can showcase them as titles that will come out on launch day or during the launch window.
Of course, it's also important to know that Nintendo planned on REVEALING the successor to the Switch by the end of March 2025. They never said anything about RELEASING it within that timeframe. It's very well possible that they might shoot for a Holiday 2025 release. Reveal a bunch of games over the course of the year, build up a ton of hype, and basically make a killing during the holiday rush.
Besides, neither Sony nor Microsoft have anything concrete hardware-wise coming down the pipeline, as far as we are aware. The PlayStation 6 is still a few years down the road at the very least, and it's anyone's guess if Microsoft is even going to continue with the Xbox line with such dismal sales numbers as the Series X/S has (and my money is on no, especially since they're buying up a bunch of third-party developers and really pushing the PC component of their brand).
Will be interesting and helpful once preorders start if Nintendo offer preorder codes to online members and previous Nintendo store members that have ordered from the store before.
It would be a nice touch and help with scalping.
Maybe the reveal won't be the console, it will be Mario in Unreal 5.
And oh by the way, you need the new console to play it
Nintendo just doing nothing even though others are leaking it.
It’s looking as if Nintendo wants to focus on DK and Xenoblade, so they’re pushing off the Switch 2 reveal for the end of March, but that could make the Switch 2 come out in the second half of 2025
Nintendo is seemingly not in panic mode over this, at least not openly, so there might be reason to be a little suspect. They might believe this is just something the online fans will obsess over and not the general public. These leaks might not be fake but they're inaccurate when it comes to working off of a prototype and the final product still isn't what we expect. Or this is all just some elaborate hoax. That last one would make me laugh harder than the Alarmo reveal! But the smoke seems too thick to dismiss.
I personally think Nintendo has miscalculated and this has seriously harmed the hype, but I want to believe Nintendo has a trick up their sleeve that will allow this new system to still somehow exceed expectations. That's how I'm coping.
@AstroTheGamosian At this point I’d be fine with a September or November release.
Extra time to get games ready for launch, and also a great time to buy it because of Christmas and the other winter holidays.
@AstroTheGamosian I won’t bet money on this prediction of mine, but I believe the switch 2 will come out very quickly after the reveal. Like revealed in January and then between March and July it’s released. The one rumor I truly believe out of all the others is that they’ve spent the last two years manufacturing them so that they can release millions right away without any stock shortages.
I could absolutely be wrong and maybe they’ll wait til Nov for the holiday rush, but I just have a feeling they want to do a quick reveal and release. Like how Apple does.
@AG_Awesome Console release timeframes are getting shorter, but not to the same amount as Apple. It can now vary between 2-8 months. Doesn’t need to be 12 months anymore.
Well Nintendo of Japan have just changed their Twitter page profile picture………..
I sees some smart people here which makes me rather happy.
It's really important to ask yourself -Why haven't Nintendo taken down everything? When they pursues after every emulations/roms and fanmade games and shoots down them? This is million times bigger.
People are too impatient in these days. We waited 3 years for Project Reality/Ultra 64/N64 to arrive in Europe from ints initial announcement!
"Screw you guys, we're not playing your game. Go ahead, reveal everything, see what we care."
https://i.imgur.com/sXJKZCq.png

@Dev1024 Why would they be in a panic mode? Remember how not a single leak of the NX was correct? Nintendo wasn't panicking back then either.
It's safe to assume that all of these leaks are about as credible as the tooth fairy is real.
@Anachronism Have any of these random third party accessory companies signed an NDA with Nintendo? I don't know why anyone thinks Nintendo has any grounds for legal action for these leaks, if that's what they are. Unless they can trace the leak to a company that has an NDA with Nintendo, nothing is stopping anyone from making a Switch 2 mockup.
I hope they will add "blue light filter" into Switch 2 firmware so that it will be easier to play games at night.
I’m completely ignoring all the “speculation” for this exact reason. Nintendo will announce the switch 2 when they are ready to.
I think we’ve gone beyond the point where they should probably just get on with it already
Perhaps Nintendo spent most of it's money on going after Switch emulators than attempting to stop the leaks.
Really though, it's as if Nintendo has their heads in the sand. There's solid evidence that their next big secret console is in the leaks and they're not doing anything about it or showing any signs of life on the matter. Ignoring the problem will not make it go away.
No proper D-pad, no buy
Nintendo is doing things the way I do! They promised that they'd have something to show before April, so you'd best believe that they'll be up all night on March 30th making the trailer.
I've given up trying to speculate anything at this point. I really don't know what they're trying to pull here, but I'm just going to hope they say something soon so that I can stop checking my phone for news every minute.
Why market it when 'everyone' is doing it for you?
@SurprisedRobinChu The thing is, it isn't a problem for them.
@dartmonkey
"Nintendo's biggest problem is avoiding the reveal being a total anticlimax"
I don't think we have to worry too much about that.
Even though we might not get a lot of big surprises on the hardware side, most importantly we will have the first look at Switch 2 exclusive games, and knowing Nintendo I don't think it will be anticlimactic in the slightest. No video or pictures has leaked so far.
Of course we've already seen Metroid prime 4, wich is also coming to Switch 1.
And then we have that multiplayer game that was beta tested on Switch in 2024 and leaked, wich may be a Switch 2 title.
But Nintendo will surely have several other games up its sleve.
One is rumored to be a new Mario kart, wich I personally think will move in the direction of "Nintendo kart": including more drivers, vehicles and tracks based on games that have not been part of the Mario kart universe this far: Think Super Smash Bros.
My body is ready.
I don't see what the big issue is. Nintendo will reveal it when they're ready. All of these leaks are just free advertising at this point. I don't think this will hurt the Switch 2 anyway. People will show up as long as the games are there.
@AG_Awesome I’m confident that’s it, exactly.
A bigger and nicer Switch was easy to predict - it was all but certain. What isn’t certain is what this Switch can do that the previous one can’t, and I’m willing to bet that will be much more than just more graphical power.
Nintendo has a mandate to push boundaries of what forms fun games can take. I can’t imagine they will only make the same thing but a bit better (that was the OLED Switch’s job).
It’s my belief that Nintendo isn’t rushing this or isn’t feeling pressured to reveal things early in spite of the leaks because they have an ace up their sleeve, and I’m excited to see what that is.
I don’t think it will be absolutely mind blowing, but I do think it will be novel, and I do think it will be worthy of a Switch successor as opposed to a mid cycle refresh.
Just because it’s fun to speculate I’m guessing that they will revisit the concept of two screen gaming. You can use your switch as a standalone device. Or you can use it as a controller that wirelessly connects to the dock on your TV so the menu functions or maps are on the switch in your hands and the main gameplay on the TV. The C button is “Connect” - as-in connect to the TV dock.
Basically, I think they are going to do what the Wii U tried to do all those years ago. Or maybe it’s that I hope that they will try that….
@AussieMcBucket I'm beginning to think this as well; they're just stubbornly waiting until after Donkey Kong HD launches on the 16th. Personally I don't think anyone gives a darn about that remaster, but I suppose Nintendo has a Donkey Kong hill to die on.
I think Nintendo ended up collaborating with Nvidia with their latest upscaling software, and agreed to wait until Nvidia could be the first to reveal it themselves at their CES keynote address. That would add another reason why they ended up delaying it until 2025. And it also would tie into why the launch games ended up being delayed; because they wanted to integrate these new upscaling innovations, and that required going back and optimizing the games all over again.
@tweaknmod I think no matter what the leaks show and reveal, we will all be eagerly anticipating the official Nintendo unveiling. It’s fun to guess different things they may implement. Personally I’m hoping we see the return of the IR bar for flawless Wii emulation in a Nintendo online upgrade to include GameCube and Wii games. 🤞
I thinks it's now down to letting some games cook a little longer and once they are close to being done they will announce the Switch 2. No point announcing a new console with no release exclusives.
@tektite_captain I did mention that as a possibility. It just seems odd they'd even go through the trouble of designing cases/covers/etc. for a product if they haven't gotten official confirmation of the dimensions for it, and I doubt they'd get those without an NDA.
They can reveal all they want about the system. Nintendo will probably still make it exciting, because they can reveal the stuff that matters along with it: Games.
@Anachronism Sure they can, through good old fashioned leaks. It's the same way every garbage iPhone accessory manufacturer on the planet is able to get the exact dimensions of the newest iPhone in time for their products to be in stores on launch day. FoxConn drone #475126748D isn't afraid of Apple or Nintendo.
Some here have mentioned the possibility of many of the leaks being completely false and made up, and the idea that Nintendo actually has this brilliant master plan in the works for Switch 2, that will blow all our minds.
I hope that this is true.
The one thing Nintendo is excellent at is game software, so even if Switch 2 is still underpowered compared to other current aystems, it will still be an unquestionable upgrade over the original Switch hardware, and nobody will dispute that.
So one of my original ideas was the possibility that Nintendo has been working on Switch 2 release titles for years, in anticipation of it's eventual release, even back when it was going to be like a "Switch Pro" type device.
My thinking was that Nintendo was this cunning, strategic company, and, knowing that software is where their strength lies, that is where they've been pouring nearly ALL of their energy and resources the last few years and months, except, not into Switch, but into Switch 2.
It stands to reason that EVEN Nintendo realized at some point that the Switch was way underpowered, and maybe preventing Nintendo programmers from fully implementing many of their best gaming ideas, so at least some of their software teams pivoted away from Switch development, altogether, and they were directed to do nothing but devote their resources to next-gen/Switch 2 software development.
If this were true, and Nintendo has this stockpile of next generation games ready, or even somewhat near completion, KNOWING that each of those games, even if just a handful of titles, will be million copy bestsellers, million copy SYSTEM sellers, then that would explain a lot of Nintendo's hubris and behavior of the last couple of months.
It may be that the hardware doesn't matter at all, like some of you have mentioned, and that the launch titles and early titles are so killer that Nintendo KNOWS they can reveal the system at literally ANY time now, and the pre-orders and initial systems will sell out.
If this theory is true, it also would explain Nintendo's perceived fear of revealing Switch 2 in, or around December.
They KNEW it would be so awesome that people would want to immediately pre-order it, immediately tanking sales of the current Switch, and triggering returns of recently purchased current gen Switches, so they delayed, and delayed, and delayed.
This theory maybe gives Nintendo too much credit, but I believe it's plausible.
What if Nintendo has been intentionally holding back, the last few years, while, in secret, their best programmers have been locked away in a secret room somewhere, and given the freedom to just go nuts???
Nintendo is snoozing with Snorlax. In the meantime, game sites that have nothing new to report could maybe fill this emptiness with doing reviews on vast numbers of games they missed over the years! Or maybe do highlight features on fun games over the last several years. Or even make strategy guides for games that are more complex. It’s never good to just focus on one thing. That system will come out eventually. Let’s do other things while we wait!
Anyone who says they aren't going to buy Switch 2 because it was announced later than people expected was never going to buy it in the first place.
@tweaknmod You make a lot of good arguments, and I'm inclined to agree with you.
Didn’t Nintendo implement an “anti leak” system throughout the entire corporations some years back? They’d partnered with a firm that specializes in keeping things tight lipped. I’m almost thinking Nintendo is now just sitting back watching where the leaks are coming from and cutting future ties or reprimanding those sources.
@Ulysses Hahaha. I may get that game, actually. I only rented it for Wii, but I got so dang frustrated, that I gave up. I'd like to revisit it.
But yeah, they waited to reveal the Switch 1 until their final game or two had been released for a couple weeks or so. If I remember correctly. Or maybe that was the holidays, I guess. But I know I'm remembering some sort of reveal of the Switch or other console release.
That's an interesting point about NVIDIA; I wasn't aware of that.
Since it’s all third-party folks showcasing it, I hope Reggie does it too one of these days for that extra blast of nostalgia. MY BODY IS (STILL) READY!!!
#bringBackReggie
@Rictorhell THAT'S why Twilight Princess and Wind Waker remasters have been done for so long!
This just popped up: https://www.reddit.com/r/Switch/comments/1hx0wge/switch_2_skus_found_in_system_today/
Taken from a GameStop.
There’s more: https://www.reddit.com/r/Switch/comments/1hx0wge/comment/m65s585/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Because it's working.
So I was reading this article earlier today but wanted to get home before I commented here. So the talking point of this article saying basically, "Just reveal the console already. Too much has leaked." On the one hand, Nintendo Life is not wrong. On the other hand, to truly launch any new console? Certain aspects of it need to be close to or completely ready before a reveal. So what do we know for certain needs to happen? 1. Nintendo said we'll have 10,000,000 units ready for worldwide preorders and launch. Are 10,000,000 units ready to go or will be by Nintendo's prospective launch day? They may still be behind that number by a good measure especially if by popular opinion they only started mass production late August/early September 2024. 2. The games for the console. Is the opening day lineup ready? Do they have a lot of exciting things to share? Is every game to be launched on Day 1 dated and ready or close to it? Do we have an outlook on titles that will be out for the first year both exclusive to Switch 2 or cross-platform? 3. Accessories from Nintendo and others. Are they all ready for opening day? If these 3 things aren't in place or unknown? They can wait on a reveal as I see it. So many people may be ready. Other companies may be getting very close to ready if not ready. Is Nintendo? We don't know and they certainly won't tell us. We're just John Q. or Jane Q Public. To take a phrase out of id Software's playbook (when they were run by John Carmack and Todd Hollenshead): Nintendo will reveal, showcase and launch the Switch 2 when it's done and it's time.
The only things I want for the Switch 2 is an actual, stable E-shop that doesn't lag and crash at random; the NSO or whatever their online app will be called, stable enough to give me a reason to pay for a subscription unlike now, and a UI that isn't void of personality and let me customize it to make it feel like it's mine.
Even if they turn out to be true, none of these rumours or leaks mean anything until the Switch 2 is actually revealed.
yes we pretty much know the hardware, what's way more important here is that nintendo has a plan to wow us with how much effort went into enhancing every part of the online experience
@SeantheDon29 oh yea what you said
@tektite_captain I guess, but isn't it bad business to tick off the company your products are dependent on? Seems like they're tossing any chance of an official partnership or endorsement out the window.
I truly don’t know whats real or not, so just gonna have to find out soon enough from Nintendo
@AG_Awesome Well, you can manufacture as many as you want, but that just means more for the scalpers to get their hands on. What Nintendo needs to do is tell their partnered retailers that preorders must either be in-person only, or if they are online, they are allowed to preorder only one console per transaction. Really, that should be the case for both online and in-person preordering. That will hopefully mitigate the scalpers using their bots to buy up all of the stock before legitimate customers have the chance to get one.
when i can have Super Mario Land GB - Remake
@shiftbarackyeaugh I think a certain music group would have had an issue with it, tho.
Donkey kong Will release 16th january. They Will announce switch 2 after that. Im guessing atleast 1 week after that. 23rd or 30th is my guess. 😊
I hate that it had to come to this. I really don't like to be spoiled, thanks a lot leakers. Nintendo, you done f'ed up and ruined it for everyone who wanted to be patient for the reveal. It's impossible to go anywhere on the internet and not see spoilers for this console online. Sometimes I think Nintendo waits too long before revealing their hand, and it really hurts the end product (just like what happened with Zelda TOTK).
@Kiyata my sentiments exactly. People need to distract themselves with other things until they make an announcement, otherwise they’ll have no hair left by the time it comes out.
There is nothing exciting to be revealed so far. Do you remember when the Wii u console did a no show at the gamepad reveal. Nintendo said it’s just a box, why do you care?
Good Lord. With detailed video like this maybe Nintendo should have announced it by now.
Clever move though. Lots of lovely free publicity.
It will really all just be about the lineup. The hardware will be a switch 2.0. So the AAA games need to be and feel like next level. But let's take Mario Kart 8 deluxe for instance, this game feels like top tier already. Yes there can be proper updates on control and maybe even slicker graphics, bur for what it is, it's already pretty perfect. I think nintendo has something cool up it's sleeve when it comes to software. I confess that my imagination is probably lacking in what the creative directors can think of in their new games. i Personally hope for a better looking and playable pokemon game.
Nintendo still wants the Switch to out sell Playstation 2 worldwide. Revealing Switch 2 is bad for Switch 1 sales so they're delaying, but they're running out of time.
I am still holding out hope that the leaks are fake, or are not revealing the whole picture. An iterative approach is fine, but that isn’t necessarily the Nintendo we know and love. I love Nintendo because of the random, the out of the box thinking, the innovation. If it just higher specs, I’ll still be buying, but I will be a bit disappointed .
Roll on the true reveal!
@SearchingS That was my first Mario and I still love it. I would play a remake for sure.
@casualnintendofreak speaking of MK8, I agree with you but as far as I know there are ways to implement the game and make it a flagship title for NS2.
think about larger kart and driver customization options, exp points to level up karts, items and drivers, a track building mode, all tracks since the SNES.
i mean apart from mk double dash - which was really a significant step forward - and the first mk providing kart customization options most of MKs are simply versions of the previous game with some tweaks - which of course is not a bad thing at all, but as we are entering a new NS2 era it would be nice to have a larger and more complex game.
A lot of mentioned of "the software will be exciting" and I'm more specifically excited for the "system software", not the game software. Do we finally get a better home screen? Do we get streetpass? What about other, new, features we didn't even know we wanted?!
They're waiting for the RTX 5080 mobile to launch so that they can use a GTX 1060 equivalent graphics card for their new underpowered, weak, and slow machine (and rarely update it with useful features) and make us all believe they're doing the right thing by relaunching the same games with slightly better anti-aliasing.
@zander_dale - I used to as well but when they launched the Switch, I was very disappointed. The Wii U was amazing and they instead downgraded by removing features. They should have kept most of its features (stylus, camera, comfortable to hold, better sound, Wii remotes, IR) and optimise them such as with removable comfortable Joy-Cons just like the Legion Go has, etc. There's nothing joyful about the Switch Joy-Cons. Pro Controller is great though missing triggers.
I've seen the leak videos. When more on C-button?!!?!
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