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@KITG_GROUP Also, Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade runs very smooth on handheld mode.

@Divide_and_Wander It's not like Sakurai is involved in MP4, as in, working more on Riders wouldn't push MP4 back.

Also, there's still that Hyrule Warriors game that Nintendo sees as a big game. It's still coming out this year, per their last trailer some weeks ago.

@YunoboCo I can confirm the eShop listings of the game in several countries (and probably all) say this:

Same console (1-4)
Local Multiplayer (2-8)
Online Multiplayer (1-16)

@ear_wig While not perfect, it runs very well already on Switch 2 without a patch.

@Max_the_German Welp. At least they leveled up from PS2 graphics now.

I remember when people used to praise PS3 graphics.

@Ooccoo_Jr Yes, you just need to change region to redeem it, to Japan, then get back.

@Ooccoo_Jr It's the equivalent of £9 if you buy the eShop code for the Kirby update in Amazon.jp.

@Elock While developed by Bandai, people shouldn't forget Hyrule Warriors. It's still a Nintendo game.

@N00BiSH I know it's not about me, I'm just voicing my opinion on the matter, what this section is for.

They charging a lot of money for limited physical editions, we shouldn't really care. These games are more like collectibles basically, so 60 to 80 bucks sound alright. It's just like all those reddit people whining about the Switch 2 and Mario Kart World prices.

That doesn't make Nintendo a bad company, just a greedy company, which is okay in my book since companies need to be greedy. The same for Wayforward here.

@N00BiSH So some fans of niche games are getting affected. I mean, I feel bad for them, but since I don't care about physical stuff, I don't care about all that drama.

Have they mistreated their staff (employees) or something?

@ROMhaiku That would be like skipping the game. Why play it at that point?

They didn't do this for when Latam Spanish Jessie's VA passed away.

@Kang81 Isn't Street Fighter 6 an AAA game? Why does it run at 60fps?

@Flapflop So, for playing both Mario Kart World and DK Bananza is $1,160 total?

That's expensive. No reason it's flopping.

The free update is great!

So 8bitdo controllers aren't supported?

Wow. Need to find those QR codes.

I don't get it. Version 1.1.1 was released at launch you say, but now it's being launched again? Same version 1.1.1?

I don't think that's how software versioning works.

@Otoemetry It was the digital version. As in I got the game on the eShop.

Save data was in the SD card, but encrypted couldn't be copied to another 3DS even after I recovered my digital games. Nintendo support couldn't give me a solution for this. My save data was simply gone. I still got like 40 mons in Pokémon Bank that I transferred then to Home. But my most important ones were gone, since they were in the save of the game when it broke.

Sending it to them, they would be able to restore the hardware, but they always formatted (probably changed motherboard in most cases, whatever), or so they told me, which would make the save data not compatible with the 3DS anymore anyway.

I was able to recover my bought digital games later, but of course there was no "Cloud Save" thing back then.

Anyway, there's still not cloud save for Pokemon nowadays outside of Home.

@Polvasti They probably downloaded most of them into the Switch game. You can't have them repeated both in Home and in a game.

@AstroTheGamosian The Pokémon Company wants people to feel each game as their own adventure. That's the only reason it's always been one save per game, or user nowadays.

Also, they wanted a pair of siblings to buy 2 cartridges and not only one back since the originals.

I stopped playing Pokémon back in the 3DS Pokémon Omega Ruby.

Played the heck out of it when it launched. But then, I had an accident and my 3DS broke.

I didn't feel the need to transfer all my mons into Pokémon Bank back then, because I was still actively playing the game when the 3DS broke.

I got 1 or 2 boxes in Pokémon Bank saved up prior. But that was just 10% of all my mons tranferred all the way back since Leaf Green.

It felt like a loss. A real loss. Couldn't ever get over the fact my Leaf Green Blastoise back from 2004 when I was only 10 years old was gone.

I still mourn him. It's not a joke.

Sorry. I need to wipe my tears.

I haven't gotten tired of Voice notes. It's in Latam Spanish for me, but anyway.

Weird to score a game negatively based on something that, you guess it, is optional and not in the game.

@HexagonSun It's still possible the game doesn't come in the cartridge in Switch 1. People can always cheap out in cartridges and put the rest of the game as a mandatory update.

@Runex2121 That's the MSRP in my country.

I'm already paying USD$750 for the console.

What's USD$100 more?

"pulls data from an indeterminate number of sources"

Erm. No. Generative AI doesn't work like that. The way it learns could be compared to the way a human learns. It doesn't copy and paste parts of artworks for creating something new. It "learns" patterns with millions of (yeah, stolen artwork in most cases) examples of desired output of data as pictures.

We could argue about the ethics, which I'm usually against in most scenarios.

@johnedwin you can decide that here. It's just player preferences.

@Thomystic Switch 2 cartridges seem to be using NAND Flash for storage.

That doesn't last as long as a SNES cartridge, for example. So, expect a life of 20-25 years, maybe even less.

@johnedwin What? Why are you commenting that on this article?

This game is a full digital game without cartridge or Game Key Card.

@Jeronan I add this:

https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/57847/~/wii-u-%26-nintendo-3ds-eshop-discontinuation-q%26a

From that link:

How long will it still be possible to redownload previously purchased content in Nintendo eShop for Wii U or the Nintendo 3DS family of systems?

For the foreseeable future, it will still be possible to redownload games and DLC and receive software updates on Wii U and the Nintendo 3DS family of systems.

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Not only they say this, but I've been replaying some Kirby Planet Robobot, which I just redownloaded last month. So, I know this first hand.

The update advice before the eShop closure came from other users online who had no clue and thought Nintendo would drop redownloads. And/or also people letting others know some updates would not be able to download anymore, because they were treated like a separated game/app and you had to first download once while the eShop was still up so you could redownload it later.

Mario Kart 7 had something like this, I think, and some other 5 games, but it was only a handful of those cases.

I'm sure Nintendo will someday remove the ability to redownload previous console games, but the Wii released back in 2006 and you can still redownload WiiWare and VC titles you bought. There's no reason to think Game Key Cards won't be able to redownload game data in 20 years given that example, even if Switch 3 isn't retrocompatible. Only big reasons that could cause that to happen: apocalyptic event or bankrupcty.

@Jeronan The eShop still opens, but there are no games (for purchase), and there's the notice you can no longer add credit nor buy games. It doesn't close automatically the eShop app.

You can still enter Menu > scroll down to Redownloadable Software > Redownload any game you had previously bought.

Voila! You'll be able to download all your games right now as of May 7th, 2025.

It has always been like this since the shop closed for 3DS and Wii U. I also just redownloaded My Pokémon Ranch on my Wii last week just for checking it out, because someone else said that wasn't possible. It is.

I mean. Maybe there are some countries where what you say happened, but I know for a fact that in USA, Japan, the UK and basically all European eShops allow you to do this.

@Jeronan Please investigate before spreading false information.

You are still able, as of right now in May 2025, to redownload digital 3DS games you bought when the 3DS eShop was still available, from Nintendo servers, by official methods (just open the eShop on your 3DS, enter your profile and look for you purchased games list). And yeah, including game updates. Also, you can still download the game updates themselves if you own cartridges.

Also, you can still redownload Wii U games in your Wii U (previously purchased of course), also Wii Ware games in your Wii (a 19 year old console), and also DSi Ware games in your DSi.

In fact, you may still redownload Tetris (GameBoy) in 3DS if you bought it when it was available. And that game was removed from sale years before the 3DS eShop closed.

Again, please investigate before spreading false info. Thanks.

@WhiteUmbrella https://www.theverge.com/news/644803/nintendo-switch-2-game-key-cards-trade-borrow-resell

Nintendo’s Tetsuya Sasaki explained to GameSpot:

“So key cards will start up on the console or system that it is slotted into, so it’s not tied to an account or anything,” said Sasaki.

Did you even read this part?

WILL START UP

@KociolekDoSyta Okay. Then I don't understand what people is whining about if you will still be able to re-download Game Key Cards data, at least for the next 20 years.

What's the problem then? If nothing lasts that long.

@larrythumbs Actual Swich 2 game cards (with data inside them) are rumored to be using flash type storage. If true, they will degrade very fast, so they will only be okay for 20-25 years. As in, in 20+ years, game cards will stop working (will have very slow read speed, so, won't work). So you also don't "own" anything with the Swich 2 cards with data in them.

That's not different than Nintendo shutting down servers for redownload in 20+ years.

Info: WiiWare and DsiWare games can still be re-downloaded (if bought before stores closed) right now, even after 19 years of the Wii launch. So no, Nintendo won't close down Switch 2 re-download abilities in less then 20 years (unless they go bankrupt or an apocalyptic event happens).

@larrythumbs If a Nintendo representative said that, you could say bye to lots of third party ports/games.

@WhiteUmbrella https://www.theverge.com/news/644803/nintendo-switch-2-game-key-cards-trade-borrow-resell

Nintendo’s Tetsuya Sasaki explained to GameSpot that game-key cards aren’t permanently tied to a specific Nintendo account. The games can be inserted and played on any Switch 2 console, allowing them to be borrowed, rented, and even resold.

“So key cards will start up on the console or system that it is slotted into, so it’s not tied to an account or anything,” said Sasaki.

@WhiteUmbrella For the latest part, most PS5 and Xbox disc games need to be INSTALLED in the system before playing (even if the game data come in the disc), because the disc read speeds are just so slow for some games.

You usually fill a 1TB drive with 5 or 6 games, even if physical (AAA games, most are 120+GB when installed). I see no difference here, filling the 256GB included in the Switch 2 will take 5-6 games.

@DanijoEX-The-Kumiho It's not really obvious. Aside from Joy cons not being able to be attached to the OG Switch because of being smaller physically then the Switch 2; the USB C port, the charger and the HDMI, have no reason to not work on a OG Switch.

HDMI revisions are retrocompatible with devices with older HDMI specs.

Chargers are "intelligent" in a way they wouldn't pass more energy than needed.

And there's no reason the USB C port inside the Switch 2 wouldn't be compatible, other than a intended way to prevent it connecting to the previous console.

@NintendoByNature Daemon X Machine Titanic Scion along with some games from other publishers were confirmed to be game key cards in Japan. There was no official telling about that not being the case in other countries.

https://x.com/gematsu/status/1915117805499777329

@RubyCarbuncle Yeah but when? It's still TBD.

It's been 20 years (nearly) since the Wii release. If the Switch 2 game servers are okay until 2045 I'll be okay with that.

@Galaxy2IsTheGOAT Yes. You may play any game using the Switch Gamecube adapter.

@Yomerodes you're right, but no need to have "duplicate game data". It's just that the upgrade pack loads only if it detects a Switch 2 console. Otherwise, it doesn't.

@-wc- Upgrade pack loads from the game card depending on if it detects a Switch 2 or an OG Switch console. That's it. I mean, if this article is to be believed.

We are not sure, yet, if this is a special case where the publisher/developer asked for special Switch 2 cards that can be inserted in the OG Switch or if all Switch 2 Edition cartridges will be like this. We'll know when everything releases.

@Sebos this is exactly the reason. The same reason Pokemon games never ever get to have any kind of save backup officially.

The official Virtual Console 3DS releases of the Game Boy games didn't have a save/restore state button, like every other game.

They don't want people duplicating items easily.

Anyway, that seems weird for Bananza. Maybe there are ways to share items or something, and that would be the same reason.

@Zuljaras Playing the devil's advocate, I hope it's some kind of linking between Switch 2's serial code and the cartridge ID, and that it happens every time you change to a new console, just for identification purposes against Nintendo servers.

Otherwise, it could be something very wrong, like actually linking the game only to one console and not work on anything else.

@Zuljaras I stand corrected. Thanks.

This actually raises some questions.

@Zuljaras We'll see when it releases. But statements from Nintendo themselves suggest otherwise. It's just the data needed to be download, like a game update.

Even if you emailed Nintendo, they usually give copy-pasted answers most times not answering the actual questions.

@Alcea Just like a physical cartridge, yeah.

PS5 physical games also get copied to internal memory, even if the data is in the disc, or download big day one updates, and you still need the disc inserted to play in 99% of the cases.