It could be called 'Phoenix Wright: AA - If You Buy This Game You Are A Giant Loser, That's Right A Giant Loser' for all I care and I'd still buy it day one!
Yeah and whose fault is it that there isn't enough software to justify a holiday-season launch? It's yours, Nintendo!
I understand why the shares dropped, if I were a shareholder I'd be pissed that NX isn't launching in the spending season. Nintendo should have done everything possible to launch this year.
The ramifications for this failure are huge. It also means NX will miss out on the big annual titles, such as CoD and Madden or w/e. NX won't be able to advertise itself alongside those titles, which is going to have a huge (negative) effect on sales.
Yeah Nintendo done goofed here. Nintendo will have an abysmal launch, as always.
People aren't going to be interested in buying another console when they've literally just spent their money on a PS4K. Nintendo should have gone head-to-head with PS4K, as now they have lost valuable ground to it. A sort of generational 'reboot' is happening in the industry, with Microsoft also rumoured to launching a slimmed down X1.
This would have been the perfect time for Nintendo to get in on the action. People talk of NX being 'overshadowed' if it had launched this holiday, but I'm afraid that line of thinking is what got Nintendo into this position in the first place. They should be matching, if not surpassing, every single advertising dollar that Sony/MS throw out. NX wouldn't be 'overshadowed' if Nintendo had any interest in advertising.
But they don't, and unfortunately advertising is what sells things. Always has been, always will. Nintendo needs some real-world advertisements too, not just digital. Instead of being seen as competition ("dude are you getting the PS4K?" "nah bro did you see that console Nintendo is bringing out? I'm asking my mom for that instead as I already have a PS4!") NX will release with little fanfare and thus history repeats itself.
If Nintendo misses the boat on that 'reboot', not even our mightly Lord Arceus can help them.
You're right, I mean god forbid people assume Nintendo would do the sensible thing and launch during the holiday season when people willingly spend their money.
Nintendo what the hell are you thinking. You NEED to be showing it at E3, get the hype going already. Also Zelda delayed until 2017...yeah the Wii U is dead. As it has been for years.
@westman98 It won't devide the userbase at all, because if they rumours are true then ALL games developed for PS4 will have to function as-is on PS4K, and vice versa. There will be no PS4K 'exclusives' like Xenoblade Chronicles 3D.
You've answered your own question. Like you said, the PS4 is the most successful current gen console by a large margin, so they should want to build on that success. That's what Nintendo should have done with the original Wii; if the Wii U had launched 3-4 years into the Wii's lifespan while it was still the 'must have' device, it would have had a much more successful launch.
@Project_Dolphin I'm not sure I agree, and your logic seems a flawed. What exactly is the reason that PS4k 'has' to be a response to NX?
When has Sony ever cared about what Nintendo is doing? Why should they? Nintendo hasn't been a direct competitor of Sony's since the launch of the Wii ten years ago.
As mentioned in my previous comment, the release of a PS4K only helps Nintendo because it justifies its position in the marketplace, rather than leaving it in a mid-generational void that nobody really cares about.
The PS4K isn't a response to Nintendo, it's based purely on the PS4's lack of power and the need to upgrade it for things like VR to operate smoothly.
The PS4k or 'Neo' will only benefit the NX. Sure Nintendo is going to have to plug more into marketing dollars (which should have been on the cards anyway) but people are much more likely to be open to the idea of a new system if there is more than one new system coming.
Rather than releasing in a mid-generation void, the PS4K has justified NX's exitence and will no doubt help boost the NX's profile, and hopefully, it's sales.
'Why would I buy another PS4 for $400 (rumoured) when I can get a whole new console for $300-350?' If Nintendo does their marketing (and the product itself) right, this will be the conversation on the industry's lips.
I have never been to Japan and probably never will, but I do quite enjoy train journeys. If the footage was better quality I would probably pick this up. But alas....
Good sales for sure, but those play figures are a bit depressing. Only 32% completion rate? Only 6% completed Plague Knight DLC, despite the costing one million to develop? Kinda makes me think free DLC isn't worth it. That's a lot of development money for such a muted response from the players.
Swap that steelbook and poster for a soundtrack and I'm there. Otherwise no thanks. Although I suppose it's actually pretty good value, given how you get three games.
...but all three games come on one cart...why couldn't it just have released like that in the first place...
Missed Other M first time round, so will pick it up now. I trust in NL's review! Anyone know if it will have Gamepad/Pro controller support, or was it one of those Wii-remote only titles?
This whole situation shows why Nintendo desperately need to announce the NX as soon as possible.
I saw so many (negative) posts about the NX controller bouncing around my FB news feed, however, I have seen none about the revelation that it was fake.
The damage has already been done, and it's all Nintendo's fault for holding back.
'Not sure either way' is the only logical answer, at the moment. After Destructoid's analysis revealed that the image hasn't been heavily doctored, it means that this controller actually 'exists' - although whether it is something someone has 3D printing and put together themselves or some official prototype remains to be seen.
I also find it interesting that NL decided not to use the full image (with the post-it note), what was the reason for this I wonder
Whelp, I just ordered click and collect at Argos. Unfortunately I'm at work so won' be able to try the demo until later, which would make it too late to decide whether to pick the game up or not.
Hoho! Will probably be getting all of these, aside from WWHD which I already own. Especially excited about Lego City as I've never found it for a reasonable price.
I think leaks are incredibly important as they help generate hype and buzz - something which Nintendo is awful at doing. Look at the Paper Mario trailer 'reveal' trailer - a minute of dull footage with a Shibata voice over. What happened to Twilight Princess style trailers Nintendo!?
Nintendo is failing to capatalize on the interest surrounding their new console. People WANT to know what the NX is, and Nintendo's failure in telling people is what is causing these leaks.
If I were in charge at Nintendo, I would have issued a statement at the beginning of 2016 announcing the date for an NX reveal conference. Invites to news websites, such as BBC, Sky etc. would have being sent out (also to gaming sites like NL, Kotaku etc) with sites being told they are allowed to share images of their invite. Perhaps the invite would have a picture of the console/some hints on it to get people speculating and talking about the product.
So far Nintendo is keeping mum on the NX, which is why rumours and leaks happen. Everyone is desperate for info Nintendo!
Starfox has somewhat redeemed itself, and will probably be picking it up.
FF still looks dumb. It's just like Triforce Heroes; multiplayer games in series' which have built their fanbases up through single player games. No one asked for multiplayer games. the fans of those series' don't want them, so why are Nintendo developing them? Who is their target audience?
What's worse is FF is online only. The only time I play my 3DS is my daily two-hour commute, so I guess I can't play FF at all on my handheld console. A console which was designed for to be played anywhere. Why make a game where you have to be tethered to an internet connection?!
The whole thing is just stupid and ill thought out. I don't know how this game got approved. I LOVED the online multiplayer in Hunters (I would wake up early every morning to play before college) but that still had a (fairly) decent single player mode that I could take with me on the train.
I just don't know what is going on with FF. How is it even a thing??
Why would they create such a gorgeous looking game, and then ruin it with gimmick based gameplay? Does Nintendo even know what their fans want anymore?
Why should I have to tap a card to colour it, what is the actual point of doing that? And flick it to start a battle? Seems like the kind of pointless mediocrity that mobile games relish in.
My copy is still sitting nicely in it's CE box. I had early access to the prelude but never got around to playing it becauce Final Fantasy IX came out on Android. Once I've finished that I'll play the prelude...then I'll get round to the real thing!
They could do so much more with a Mario movie, even following the basic 'kidnapped Princess' plot. Why does Bowser kidnap Peach? How? What is the aftermath? How does Mario feel? Does he even know Peach? Why does he help? etc etc. They could easily flesh it out into a real, tangible plot with emotion and depth.
Personally, if they were going to start their own cinematic universe I think they should start from the beginning. Reboot Mario's origin story, make the supporting characters fun and lovable like in Ralph/Big Hero 6 etc. Follow Mario's development from a nobody to a hero, induldge in his emotional growth, have a touching scene where Mario wants to go back because he doesn't believe in himself and have Luigi talk him around.
Disney is on a roll with movies lately, with Ralph, BH6 and Tangled being the highlights, and I feel they could make a beautiful Mario movie.
I'll probably pick up the Olympic game on Wii U, but not bothered about Fire and Ice. Hopefully there will be a 'Pixel' Sonic game and another Sonic game like that rumour a while ago suggested, at any rate I'm well up for a new Sonic game!
Disappointed in how high WW made it in both lists, extremely overrated and dull. If it didn't have Zelda in the title it wouldn't be nearly as popular.
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Re: Nintendo Download: 19th May (Europe)
Ehhh it's FE time already?! But I haven't finished with Bravely Second yet! Better get to it.
Re: Microsoft's Phil Spencer Says Minecraft Partnership With Nintendo Has Been "Great"
Are there any sales estimates on how well it's done on eShop? I'm guessing not...
Re: Ace Attorney 6 May Be Called "Spirit of Justice" in the West
It could be called 'Phoenix Wright: AA - If You Buy This Game You Are A Giant Loser, That's Right A Giant Loser' for all I care and I'd still buy it day one!
Re: Culdcept Revolt Will Have Its Own Nintendo Direct in Japan
NX reveal confirmed
Re: Nintendo Confirms Its E3 Plans for The Legend of Zelda
So no epic trailer then? Just streams?
Re: Launching NX Next Year Is The "Proper" Thing To Do, Says Nintendo Boss Tatsumi Kimishima
Yeah and whose fault is it that there isn't enough software to justify a holiday-season launch? It's yours, Nintendo!
I understand why the shares dropped, if I were a shareholder I'd be pissed that NX isn't launching in the spending season. Nintendo should have done everything possible to launch this year.
The ramifications for this failure are huge. It also means NX will miss out on the big annual titles, such as CoD and Madden or w/e. NX won't be able to advertise itself alongside those titles, which is going to have a huge (negative) effect on sales.
Re: Reaction: The NX Release in March 2017 and How It Changes the Game
Yeah Nintendo done goofed here. Nintendo will have an abysmal launch, as always.
People aren't going to be interested in buying another console when they've literally just spent their money on a PS4K. Nintendo should have gone head-to-head with PS4K, as now they have lost valuable ground to it. A sort of generational 'reboot' is happening in the industry, with Microsoft also rumoured to launching a slimmed down X1.
This would have been the perfect time for Nintendo to get in on the action. People talk of NX being 'overshadowed' if it had launched this holiday, but I'm afraid that line of thinking is what got Nintendo into this position in the first place. They should be matching, if not surpassing, every single advertising dollar that Sony/MS throw out. NX wouldn't be 'overshadowed' if Nintendo had any interest in advertising.
But they don't, and unfortunately advertising is what sells things. Always has been, always will. Nintendo needs some real-world advertisements too, not just digital. Instead of being seen as competition ("dude are you getting the PS4K?" "nah bro did you see that console Nintendo is bringing out? I'm asking my mom for that instead as I already have a PS4!") NX will release with little fanfare and thus history repeats itself.
If Nintendo misses the boat on that 'reboot', not even our mightly Lord Arceus can help them.
Re: 14 Titles Across Wii U and 3DS Were Million Sellers in the Last Year
@NintyFan
Yeah I'm also pleased Woolly World sold as well as it did, I enjoyed my time with it!
Re: Nintendo NX Will Be Launched Globally in March 2017
@TheLastLugia
You're right, I mean god forbid people assume Nintendo would do the sensible thing and launch during the holiday season when people willingly spend their money.
Re: The Legend of Zelda Wii U Has Been Pushed Back to 2017, Will Release On NX As Well
Whelp....dat artwork...
Re: Nintendo NX Will Be Launched Globally in March 2017
Nintendo what the hell are you thinking. You NEED to be showing it at E3, get the hype going already. Also Zelda delayed until 2017...yeah the Wii U is dead. As it has been for years.
Re: Yo-kai Watch and Dragon Quest Continue to Lead in Japan as Wii U Has a Small Boost
With game sales across the board very low, I'd be SO suprised if SFZ didn't take number one. I reckon it will probably sell about 60k?
Re: Talking Point: PS4K 'Neo', NX and Supplemental Computing Devices - Home Console Gaming May Be Changing
@westman98 It won't devide the userbase at all, because if they rumours are true then ALL games developed for PS4 will have to function as-is on PS4K, and vice versa. There will be no PS4K 'exclusives' like Xenoblade Chronicles 3D.
You've answered your own question. Like you said, the PS4 is the most successful current gen console by a large margin, so they should want to build on that success. That's what Nintendo should have done with the original Wii; if the Wii U had launched 3-4 years into the Wii's lifespan while it was still the 'must have' device, it would have had a much more successful launch.
Re: Talking Point: PS4K 'Neo', NX and Supplemental Computing Devices - Home Console Gaming May Be Changing
@Project_Dolphin I'm not sure I agree, and your logic seems a flawed. What exactly is the reason that PS4k 'has' to be a response to NX?
When has Sony ever cared about what Nintendo is doing? Why should they? Nintendo hasn't been a direct competitor of Sony's since the launch of the Wii ten years ago.
As mentioned in my previous comment, the release of a PS4K only helps Nintendo because it justifies its position in the marketplace, rather than leaving it in a mid-generational void that nobody really cares about.
The PS4K isn't a response to Nintendo, it's based purely on the PS4's lack of power and the need to upgrade it for things like VR to operate smoothly.
Re: Talking Point: PS4K 'Neo', NX and Supplemental Computing Devices - Home Console Gaming May Be Changing
The PS4k or 'Neo' will only benefit the NX. Sure Nintendo is going to have to plug more into marketing dollars (which should have been on the cards anyway) but people are much more likely to be open to the idea of a new system if there is more than one new system coming.
Rather than releasing in a mid-generation void, the PS4K has justified NX's exitence and will no doubt help boost the NX's profile, and hopefully, it's sales.
'Why would I buy another PS4 for $400 (rumoured) when I can get a whole new console for $300-350?' If Nintendo does their marketing (and the product itself) right, this will be the conversation on the industry's lips.
Re: Review: Japanese Rail Sim 3D Journey in suburbs #1 Vol.3 (3DS eShop)
I have never been to Japan and probably never will, but I do quite enjoy train journeys. If the footage was better quality I would probably pick this up. But alas....
Re: The Nintendo Selects Range Brings Some Sales Success in the UK Charts
Don't think I've ever seen so many Wii U titles in the chart at one time!
Re: Yacht Club Games Gives Details on Huge Shovel Knight Sales in Extensive Blog and Infographic
Good sales for sure, but those play figures are a bit depressing. Only 32% completion rate? Only 6% completed Plague Knight DLC, despite the costing one million to develop? Kinda makes me think free DLC isn't worth it. That's a lot of development money for such a muted response from the players.
Re: Art: If Nintendo Ever Took Zelda Into The Future, We'd Want Link To Look Like This
@MetaRyan yeah it's pretty funny
I really like this design, would fit right in with the Overwatch world! Man I really wanna play that game, have only seen videos and trailers so far
Re: Monolith Productions Job Listing Sparks NX Chatter
This can only be a good thing hope it comes true!
Re: Poll: What Do You Think of My Nintendo and Miitomo?
@Enigk tap on the bubble that appears near your head with your friends face in it and then it goes through their answers and you can comment on them.
Miitomo is not a messaging app, Nintendo have been quite clear on that from the beginning
Re: Poll: What Do You Think of My Nintendo and Miitomo?
@Enigk I don't think you really know what you're talking about. Miitomo is nothing like that...
Re: Poll: What Do You Think of My Nintendo and Miitomo?
@Shiner1776 If you don't have seperate personal/business Facebook accounts then you are doing social media wrong.
I have a business page I use with clients and a personal account I use and enjoy with my friends. I linked my personal account with Nintendo.
If you are mixing your personal life and your business life together then I'm afraid you're in for trouble down the line.
Re: GAME Grabs UK Exclusivity of Fire Emblem Fates Special Edition
Swap that steelbook and poster for a soundtrack and I'm there. Otherwise no thanks. Although I suppose it's actually pretty good value, given how you get three games.
...but all three games come on one cart...why couldn't it just have released like that in the first place...
Re: Nintendo Download: 31st March (Europe)
Missed Other M first time round, so will pick it up now. I trust in NL's review! Anyone know if it will have Gamepad/Pro controller support, or was it one of those Wii-remote only titles?
Re: Editorial: A Week When NX 'Leaks' Were Thankfully Fake and New Tricks Were Used
This whole situation shows why Nintendo desperately need to announce the NX as soon as possible.
I saw so many (negative) posts about the NX controller bouncing around my FB news feed, however, I have seen none about the revelation that it was fake.
The damage has already been done, and it's all Nintendo's fault for holding back.
Re: Nintendo Seeks a Trademark for Mario Coin Sound
With Nintendo on this one.
Re: Nintendo Announces Separate Hyrule Warriors Season Passes for Wii U and 3DS
Yeah no, still not buying that awful 3DS version Nintendo!
Re: Rumour Buster: Let's Have A Good Look At That "Leaked" NX Controller
'Not sure either way' is the only logical answer, at the moment. After Destructoid's analysis revealed that the image hasn't been heavily doctored, it means that this controller actually 'exists' - although whether it is something someone has 3D printing and put together themselves or some official prototype remains to be seen.
I also find it interesting that NL decided not to use the full image (with the post-it note), what was the reason for this I wonder
Re: Pokkén Tournament Demo Comes Out Fighting On The European Wii U eShop
Whelp, I just ordered click and collect at Argos. Unfortunately I'm at work so won' be able to try the demo until later, which would make it too late to decide whether to pick the game up or not.
Anyone know if the demo is two-player?
Re: Review: Dragon Ball Z: Super Butoden 2 (SNES)
I tried this as a preorder bonus for Extreme Butoden, but my lack of knowledge in Japanese somewhat hindered my enjoyment
Re: Five Wii U Releases Confirmed for Nintendo Selects Range in Europe
Hoho! Will probably be getting all of these, aside from WWHD which I already own. Especially excited about Lego City as I've never found it for a reasonable price.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Fortress of Secrecy Needs to Tighten Security for the Year Ahead
I think leaks are incredibly important as they help generate hype and buzz - something which Nintendo is awful at doing. Look at the Paper Mario trailer 'reveal' trailer - a minute of dull footage with a Shibata voice over. What happened to Twilight Princess style trailers Nintendo!?
Nintendo is failing to capatalize on the interest surrounding their new console. People WANT to know what the NX is, and Nintendo's failure in telling people is what is causing these leaks.
If I were in charge at Nintendo, I would have issued a statement at the beginning of 2016 announcing the date for an NX reveal conference. Invites to news websites, such as BBC, Sky etc. would have being sent out (also to gaming sites like NL, Kotaku etc) with sites being told they are allowed to share images of their invite. Perhaps the invite would have a picture of the console/some hints on it to get people speculating and talking about the product.
So far Nintendo is keeping mum on the NX, which is why rumours and leaks happen. Everyone is desperate for info Nintendo!
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD Leads the Way for Nintendo in UK Charts
Go TP! It would have been worrying if this had sold poorly, especially considering how popular the original was.
I think Nintendo and Aonuma need to seriously reconsider their aversion to developing 'realistic' Zelda games. It clearly sells.
Re: Poll: Did the Wii U and 3DS Nintendo Direct Kickstart 2016?
Starfox has somewhat redeemed itself, and will probably be picking it up.
FF still looks dumb. It's just like Triforce Heroes; multiplayer games in series' which have built their fanbases up through single player games. No one asked for multiplayer games. the fans of those series' don't want them, so why are Nintendo developing them? Who is their target audience?
What's worse is FF is online only. The only time I play my 3DS is my daily two-hour commute, so I guess I can't play FF at all on my handheld console. A console which was designed for to be played anywhere. Why make a game where you have to be tethered to an internet connection?!
The whole thing is just stupid and ill thought out. I don't know how this game got approved. I LOVED the online multiplayer in Hunters (I would wake up early every morning to play before college) but that still had a (fairly) decent single player mode that I could take with me on the train.
I just don't know what is going on with FF. How is it even a thing??
Re: Paper Mario Colour Splash Coming to Wii U
Why would they create such a gorgeous looking game, and then ruin it with gimmick based gameplay? Does Nintendo even know what their fans want anymore?
Why should I have to tap a card to colour it, what is the actual point of doing that? And flick it to start a battle? Seems like the kind of pointless mediocrity that mobile games relish in.
Re: A Wii U and 3DS Nintendo Direct Is On the Way
There probably won't be much in the way of new content, so don't think I'll stay up to watch.
Re: A Wii U and 3DS Nintendo Direct Is On the Way
@WireWare Wow, bet you're fun at parties...
Re: Bravely Second: End Layer Secures a Decent Start in the UK Charts
My copy is still sitting nicely in it's CE box. I had early access to the prelude but never got around to playing it becauce Final Fantasy IX came out on Android. Once I've finished that I'll play the prelude...then I'll get round to the real thing!
Re: Nintendo Should Follow In Marvel's Footsteps And Produce Its Own Hollywood Movies, Say Producers
@NinjaWaddleDee Nah.
They could do so much more with a Mario movie, even following the basic 'kidnapped Princess' plot. Why does Bowser kidnap Peach? How? What is the aftermath? How does Mario feel? Does he even know Peach? Why does he help? etc etc. They could easily flesh it out into a real, tangible plot with emotion and depth.
Personally, if they were going to start their own cinematic universe I think they should start from the beginning. Reboot Mario's origin story, make the supporting characters fun and lovable like in Ralph/Big Hero 6 etc. Follow Mario's development from a nobody to a hero, induldge in his emotional growth, have a touching scene where Mario wants to go back because he doesn't believe in himself and have Luigi talk him around.
Disney is on a roll with movies lately, with Ralph, BH6 and Tangled being the highlights, and I feel they could make a beautiful Mario movie.
Re: Nintendo Should Follow In Marvel's Footsteps And Produce Its Own Hollywood Movies, Say Producers
Oh yes, Nintendo movies could obviously be a huge success, just not under Nintendo's direction. They can barely make games fans want let alone a film.
But if they gave complete rights to Disney/Pixar...
Re: Pokémon Photo Booth Can Now Be Downloaded Off of the App Store
@RadioShadow
It's not as easy to output things to social media, which is what this is intended for. Plus the 3DS' camera(s) is/are atrocious...
Re: Video: Eiji Aonuma and Colleagues Reflect on Development of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Aonuma, don't you want to create that kind of buzz and excitement again? Because the last few Zelda games you've produced haven't even come close.
Re: Fire Emblem Fates Becomes Fastest Selling Release in Franchise History in the US
@Angelic_Lapras_King the vocal minority, as always
Re: Disney Art Academy Spotted for Potential 3DS Release
I'd hit this as long as it had Pixar too
Re: Tomy Seems To Think Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice Has Been Delayed For A Second Time
I'll probably pick up the Olympic game on Wii U, but not bothered about Fire and Ice. Hopefully there will be a 'Pixel' Sonic game and another Sonic game like that rumour a while ago suggested, at any rate I'm well up for a new Sonic game!
Re: Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon Secures Top 10 Spot in UK Charts
Might pick it up, does it still have the grid-based movement though? Always found it a bit jarring.
Re: Feature: Nintendo Life's Favourite Legend of Zelda Games - 30th Anniversary Edition
@Jeero83 pretty much this
Re: Feature: Nintendo Life's Favourite Legend of Zelda Games - 30th Anniversary Edition
Disappointed in how high WW made it in both lists, extremely overrated and dull. If it didn't have Zelda in the title it wouldn't be nearly as popular.
Re: Pokémon Red, Blue And Yellow European Pricing Is Confirmed
I'll be picking up Yellow and Red on my N3DSXL and then Blue on my normal 3DS so I can trade between them won't be getting all on launch day though.