You want Nintendo NX chatter that's not completely made up? Well today's the day, sort of, courtesy of a job listing posted by Monolith Productions.
It's been a long time since this developer went anywhere near Nintendo hardware, and is perhaps best known for the critically acclaimed Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor. In some respects it's a relatively standard open world game with gory combat, but it nevertheless had an impressive structure to its world - part of your objective was to infiltrate and manipulate the leadership structure of the orcs, and the implementation of this is undeniably clever.
In any case, a sequel to Shadow of Mordor is anticipated, with various rumours to that effect in recent times. Now there's a little hope that Nintendo fans may get in on the action courtesy of a job listing for a Quality Assurance Manager that includes the following requirement:
- Knowledge of certification standards for Microsoft (TCR compliance), Sony (TRC compliance), or Nintendo (Lot Check).
Now, this could be wording to simply seek someone who's familiar with publishing games on major platforms - note the 'or' instead of 'and'. Or it could be an encouraging sign that a prospective sequel could be in line for Nintendo's NX hardware - Warner Bros. (publisher of Shadow of Mordor) doesn't always worry about timelines and consistencies with games, as it brought Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition and Batman: Arkham Origins to Wii U, but not the original or successor.
Regardless of long term prospects, major third-parties do often support Nintendo hardware early on to see how it performs, so it's not beyond possibility that major releases (perhaps ports) developed by the likes of Monolith Productions are in the works.
We shall see in good time.
[source careers.timewarner.com, via reddit.com]
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I'm all up for this. Had a ton of fun in the first year of the Wii U buying ports of games I had missed from previous systems, It was a shame they dried up because I would keep on buying them. the first time I played "Darksiders II" and "Mass Effect 3" were the Wii U versions for example.
Well that reinforces rumors Nintendo will compete with the current gen systems. Hard to say how long this gen will last though.
I clicked on the link thinking about Monolith Soft. Now I feel a little disappointed and silly.
But 3rd party interest is always a good thing. I don't care about Lord of the Rings, though.
@Vincent294 well if its a home console, if it's not at least xbox one level why bother.
But hey sounds good to me. I didn't enjoy SoM but more the merrier.
@Samurai_Goroh I did that too, you're not the only one!
This is pretty positive, but the "or" part creates possibility rather than a definite chance of ports... Ah well, roll on E3!
This can only be a good thing hope it comes true!
Well, Shadow of Mordor 2 definitely wouldn't be coming to 3DS, New 3DS, or Wii U. And I highly doubt the next portable would be powerful enough. So if its coming to a nintendo platform, it'll be the next home console.
Time to slice that potato in half again!
@Shiryu I still haven't started mass Effect 3 lol 😁
I got my hopes up at first but after reading the article, I'm kinda feeling the developers are just covering the grounds in case the NX is something worth porting to.
Still waiting for a Middle Earth game which is not afraid to go full RPG.
I know all we can get right now is table scraps, but MAN, I can't wait for official SOLID NX news!
It's a promising sign. Hopefully the third party developers will give the NX a chance, and it be nice if the NX versions sold well
Hooray! Nintendo is getting 3rd party support!
It won't convince me to buy anything other than Nintendo stuff, but it's wonderful.
To make an NX game rumor/leak.....1st you cut a potato into 1 mini cd sized slice.........
reading waaaaay too much into it, sure they mentioned Nintendo, but there are eshop and 3DS game possibilities (however unlikely) it seems more likely that they need someone who knows what publishing for consoles is like, meh.
Interesting...maybe Nintendo will be getting those third parties more often on the NX.
If we're not reading too much into this, then this would imply the NX is indeed a HOME console as I doubt a sequel to Shadow of Mordor could run on a handheld.
@BarryDunne Same here. One might even say I kinda over done it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMnAsNczGug
@cfgk24 You're missing out... but considering how little you touched "Xenoblade X"... hmm...
I know ! I know! but too busy Splatooning and Hyrule Warrioring still! lol
The word Nintendo appears, everyone has a nuclear meltdown. Just think of the other 57,000 times in the past that the word Nintendo has appeared on a website and nothing ever became of it. This article is clickbait at it's purist.
when i saw monolith working on a nintendo product, i thought of xenoblade and thought there was an nx sequel coming - as well there should be. this will do just fine, tho'.
Anyone else getting sick of these rumors? Because I sure as Hell am. Also, this doesn't really mean anything, because they could just want somebody who knows how to work on major platforms, as this very article said.
Monolith is one of my favorite developers, I would be happy about this.
@Samurai_Goroh Thought the same thing until I read "It's been a long time since this developer went anywhere near Nintendo hardware", then I reread it carefully lol.
I think it's a fairly safe bet WB will support NX in the beginning, they have supported wii, ds, 3ds and wiiu. They tried some games targeted to the older audience at the beginning with wii u as well, so I can see them giving it another go.
"It's been a long time since this developer went anywhere near Nintendo hardware..."
Total understatement! The only time Monolith Productions ever made something for a Nintendo platform was the Game Boy Advance version of Tron 2.0, a licensed video game released in 2003.
Quality Shadow of Mordor is very good game so that standard on the NX is more than welcome.
@rjejr So there's some juicy new rumors from Emily Rogers on Zelda.
According to her, Zelda will indeed come to both Wii U and NX. Players will be given the option to choose between a male or female playable character. Lastly, there will be voice acting for NPCs - Link (and Linkle?) will remain silent.
This is stuff Nintendo needs to net in order to get NX off the ground. Shadow of Mordor was a lot of fun. I loved the freedom to either sneak around, or just run in and slay everything in your path. It'd be nice to see the sequel on a Nintendo console.
@Dankykong But this is news specifically because Nintendo is infrequently mentioned when it comes to 3rd party endeavors.
For the amount of times 3rd party AAA games (and even indies) have excluded Nintendo in their releases, folks have to do a double take to make sure the devs/publishers didnt just sneeze weird when they finally do.
It's all about context.
@IceClimbers Thanks for the heads up. I have no idea who Emily Rogers is - Mr. Rogers niece perhaps? - but anybody thinking about future Zeldas rather than past Zeldas is ok by me.
I've pretty much decided Zelda has to be dual platfrom at this point as they can't promote Zelda U and NX at the same time, why buy an NX then?. and they can't promote Zelda NX w/o really aggravating the - albeit measly - 11mil Wii U owners. Those 11mil Wii U owners may be the only home console base they have left. 50mil handheld owners isn't too shabby though.
Speaking NPCs seems a must in 2016/7. I've always been ok w/ a silent star, I've been playing FF games that way for 20 years. Coincidentally a new movie just released w/ a silent star. He's a robot and his voice box is broken. No it's true.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3072482/
And I'm ok w/ Linkle. We're talking about a "reincarnation" over generations, no reason "the chosen one" need be a man or a boy or a teen boy. And if Zelda wants to get it on w/ Linkle, I'm good with that too.
Time for the Mets home opener.
@rjejr
Promoting a Zelda U port on NX won't piss any Wii U owners off. They still get their game. Being on NX doesn't make their game any lesser. They're still getting exactly what they expected, and not a cent less. Zelda comes to NX, or Zelda doesn't come to NX... it changes nothing for Wii U owners.
All it does is give them more options. That way if they WERE considering buying NX, they now have the additional option of doing so and playing Zelda on it instead. Who in their right mind would be upset about something that doesn't affect them in the slightest (oh... wait a second... ok forget I asked that).
And btw, it's 13 million Wii U owners. Get it right
Dang it, I too thought it was about Monolith Soft for a second and got my hopes up it was somehow about Xenoblade X2. Oh well, I guess it's too soon to expect news for that anyway.
I didn't even know they did that game, in only really know them for FPS titles like the F.E.A.R series, No One Lives Forever, Blood and Condemned and I'd love for new game in any of those series.
@Samurai_Goroh I can assure you that Monolith Soft will release a game on the NX. They are owned by Nintendo after all
@JaxonH "Promoting a Zelda U port on NX won't piss any Wii U owners off."
If you change "won't" to "shouldn't" I could almost believe what you are saying.
But since you wrote "won't" here's how there argument would go -
"I bought a Wii U to play Zelda U when Nintendo announced it in 2014 for a 2015 release. If I knew it was coming out on NX I wouldn't have bought a Wii U b/c I only bought a Wii U to play Zelda U. I could have saved that $300 I wasted on a Wii U for an NX instead. Screw you Nintendo."
That's the reality of fanboi, your logic means nothing to their emotions. As you well know.
"Who in their right mind would be upset about something that doesn't affect them in the slightest (oh... wait a second... ok forget I asked that)."
This is the internet, nobody is in their "right mind" here.
Just out of curiosity, what would you tell Wii U owners if Zelda U moved to NX only, no Wii U version at all? Would you tell them they should be happy it wasn't canceled entirely, they should just be happy they can still play it, all they have to do is buy an NX?
While I appreciate your cup always half full philosophy, I'm not sure the rest of the masses share that viewpoint. I do like to think there are more cup half full people in the world than cup half empty like myself - I am a jaded NYer after all - but on the internet I know the cup half empty people dominate, the cup half full people are usually out in the world leading actual lives, not trying to get Metroid FF canceled. Why bother trying to cancel a game, you don't want to play it, don't buy it, simple. For some people the glass has been smashed on the floor and they stepped on all the broken pieces barefoot.
I'l try and remember the 13mil for next time, should be easy enough, 13 is bad luck after all.
@rjejr
If it was MOVED to the NX? Well ya people would have every right to be upset. Heck even I would be upset, just out of principle.
But a port? This is what I would tell them- you bought a Wii U to play Zelda U, and guess what, you get to play Zelda U! So, go buy the game and play it! The fact it's on NX doesn't change anything. You bought the system to play this game, and you will have this game on your system. So... explain to me the problem again?
@rjejr
Let me share a parable of Jesus.
For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire workers for his vineyard. 2 He agreed to pay them a denarius[a] for the day and sent them into his vineyard.
3 “About nine in the morning he went out and saw others standing in the marketplace doing nothing. 4 He told them, ‘You also go and work in my vineyard, and I will pay you whatever is right.’ 5 So they went.
“He went out again about noon and about three in the afternoon and did the same thing. 6 About five in the afternoon he went out and found still others standing around. He asked them, ‘Why have you been standing here all day long doing nothing?’
7 “‘Because no one has hired us,’ they answered.
“He said to them, ‘You also go and work in my vineyard.’
8 “When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Call the workers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last ones hired and going on to the first.’
9 “The workers who were hired about five in the afternoon came and each received a denarius. 10 So when those came who were hired first, they expected to receive more. But each one of them also received a denarius. 11 When they received it, they began to grumble against the landowner. 12 ‘These who were hired last worked only one hour,’ they said, ‘and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the work and the heat of the day.’
13 “But he answered one of them, ‘I am not being unfair to you, friend. Didn’t you agree to work for a denarius? 14 Take your pay and go. I want to give the one who was hired last the same as I gave you. 15 Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’
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If Nintendo wants to be generous to those who buy their next system, that is their right to be generous. But it is wrong for people to be envious when they are receiving that which was agreed upon when they bought the system
@JaxonH "Heck even I would be upset, just out of principle."
Well lets hope it doesn't come to that. Though I still think female Link on U version and male Link on NX version would drive the fanbois into a tizzy and that would be really fun to watch.
And while I agree with you from a factual perspective - game on Wii U means it's on Wii U regardless of where else it goes - I still think on a emotional level there will be outrage.
OK, heres another one - what if the NX version is out this year in Nov at launch but the Wii U version is delayed until next March b/c Nintendo wants to sell more NX? Can Wii U owners be upset having to wait? (I dont think that would happen, but it's Ntinedo, so who knows?)
parable - OK, that is one horrible parable. Where does Jesus even fit into that? What's that called - "parable of the sucker"?
Relay that to real life - do you know why people dont' talk about their salaries at work - b/c chaos thats why. Yes, the landowner has the right to do w/ his money as he pleases, and he paid the workers what they agreed to. And had he done so in a pay envelope, where nobody knew what anybody else was making that would be fine. The problem isn't his payment plan, that's his business, but by paying them in the open like that he is saying - look at you losers, you worked all day for so little money, what morons you be. And here I am, the biggest jerk in the world, rubbing your face in the dirt and calling you names for your outright stupidity.
The moral of the story isn't - people have the right to do whatever they want with their money - it's - people should keep salaries quiet so underpaid workers don't break into your house at night and slit your throat. That's how that story ends. Those 2 early morning guys come back at night, kill the landowner, and take all his money. Moral of the story - when screwing people over, do it quietly, then leave town. It's why con artists are always on the move.
Envy - it's one of the 7 deadly sins for a reason, namely, it's deadly. It's why Cain killed able.
Nintendo needs to moot that - make the game $50 on Wii U - like Starfox Zero - $60 on NX. Throw the peasants a bone so they don't revolt. Marketing isn't just all about advertising, it's about manipulation and appeasement as well.
@rjejr
I think you're missing the point. Whether or not the landowner intentionally paid them in the open is irrelevant. This parable was told in this manner to illustrate an example- an example that cannot very well be illustrated otherwise. It's the principle of people being upset out of envy when they received what was agreed upon. THAT is the point. You could tell 1000 different parables but that is the bottom line. You're focusing on the wrong thing.
In the gaming industry Nintendo cannot secretly release Zelda on NX without telling Wii U owners. They are going to know. So the parable applies perfectly- it's the fact that people are upset out of their own envy despite the fact they are receiving what was agreed upon.
@JaxonH I think you are missing the point on this one - envy exists, it's everywhere, if companies want to remain in business they can't pretend it doesn't.
Lets say the 2 guys who worked all day for their agreed upon pay aren't killers, they don't go to the landowners house and kill him that night, they learn the parable that envy is bad. Next day, do you think they show up early and offer to work for the landowner all day for a small amount, or do they hide out and show up at his house at 5PM to work a couple of hours to get paid? And do you think they tell all their friends? Who is going to be dumb enough to go work all day for the landlord for a small amount when they can work a few hours for the same amount? That's the way capitalism is supposed to work, we choose the best deal. That landlord - who isn't killed during the night b/c he only hires good honest people - is still going to starve to death and die b/c nobody is going to work all day for him for the same amount they can work a few hours for and get paid the same amount. His crops will wither and die on the vine, or they won't get planted in time to have a good harvest b/c nobody is willing to work all day for him for low wages.
And that landowner is Nintendo, your parable is a good fit. If Nitneod releases Zelda U and Zelda NX the same day people might stop buying Nintendo consoles and go buy a PS4 or Xbox One, or 4.5 or 1.5, b/c they don't like the way that Nintendo operates. Then Nintendo goes out of business, just like the landowner, b/c he doens't know how to treat his employees fairly and Nintendo doens't know how it's consumers want to be treated.
Envy exists, you can't deny it or wish it away. And logic exists. If people feel mistreated by a company - fairly or not, emotions over rule logic every time - they will go find another one. Except for handhelds, Nintendo has a near monopoly on those w/ Pokemon and Monster Hunter. But NX needs all the help it can get, not all the hate.
@rjejr
The thing is, fairness is not the same as equality. Fairness is every person getting what was agreed upon. Equality is everyone getting the same thing.
For them to release the game on both consoles is completely fair. And if people are so fickle that they would stop buying Nintendo consoles out of envy that NX gamers get to play Zelda U, then I imagine the entire industry will be going under soon anyways, because you can't depend on customers like that. Heaven forbid PS3 owners stop buying Sony consoles because The Last of Us came to PS4, which was completely fair. It didn't happen. People were happy that the game was available on a new console because options are good. People didn't stop buying Nintendo consoles when Twilight Princess released on Wii and GameCube either.
Final Fantasy XV- which was announced for PS3, is not coming to PS3 at all, despite them being led on. But I don't see people revolting and Sony going out of business over this. That's a situation that actually wasn't fair. If people weren't willing to boycott a console en-masse over something neither fair nor equal, I certainly don't think people are going to do it over something that is both fair (people getting what was agreed upon) and equal (both Wii U and NX gamers getting same access to a great game).
Surely some will envy regardless, as you said, but any person who is envious over something that doesn't affect them, such as in this situation, are bound to be persistantly discontent in their unjustified jealousies about one thing or another anyways.
@rjejr
And if the wages were so low, they would've never accepted in the first place. The fact they accepted those wages implies that it was a fair wage to begin with. It's not that they are getting paid less than they should, it's just that somebody else is getting paid more out of the kindness of the landowners heart. Will a person revolt and quit their job because the landowner chooses to be kind to someone?
It's like a job that offers you $20 an hour. And then the following day, out of the kindness of the employer's heart, they offer somebody else $40 an hour. An act of charity- all people have the right to be charitable with their own money, no? You are still getting fair wages, heck, more than fair wages. The fact the person after you got a better deal doesn't make your deal any worse.
You could throw a fit and try to find work somewhere else but the fact is you're still not going to get paid more than $20 an hour anywhere else either. So why bother. What if there is no other work else where? Is a person going to quit their job and starve, simply because they're jealous that their fair wages arent as much as someone else's? That's real logical.
@JaxonH "Fairness is every person getting what was agreed upon."
Well here's Nintendo's first problem. E3 2014, Nintnedo shows off Zelda U w/ a 2015 release date. Did Zelda U come out in 2015? So people who bought a Wii U holiday 2014 in preparation of Zelda U in 2015 b/c that's when Nintendo said it was coming out - and I'm sure if we looked back hard enough and far enough we could find a comment from you saying "if Ntinedo said it's coming out in 2015, then it is coming out in 2015" - so those people have already been upset since March 2015 - over a full year now - when Nintendo said "no Zelda U" in 2015. So that's already lie #1. And those people who bought a Wii U "primarily" for Zelda U are still waiting. And not just waiting for the game, waiting for news of the game. It isn't even on Nintnedo's own page for "Coming Soon" Wii U games.
http://www.nintendo.com/games/coming-soon#wiiu
So people waiting for Zelda U are already upset w/ the delay, and probably upset w/ the almost complete lack of news over the past year. At least when games like Uncharted 4 get "delayed" Naughty Dog and Sony keep talking about them and giving them dates. (Same for No Man's Sky.) Zelda U has no date, just a brief 2016 somewhere, but why believe "2016" when "2015" didn't happen? SFZ got delayed from Nov but at least it got a new date right away and is coming out soon. I'm not even sure Zelda U counts as a simply "delayed" game anymore. Can't think of a better word right now, but if a game gets delayed for a month or 3, that's a "Delay", when a game gets delayed for at least a year w/ no news or new date, that has to be something else other than "Delayed".
2nd "lie" is by omission. Zelda U was announced as a Wii U game in the launch trailer. It was implied to be an exclusive, though I honestly can't recall anybody who said that, but I think most people inferred it. TLoU and all those other "ports" on PS4 happened later, not at the same time. If Zelda NX comes out a year after Zelda U then I agree w/ you 100%, less likely to be a revolt. but a simultaneous release is bad for business, the fanobois will surely see it that way.
Next point: "People didn't stop buying Nintendo consoles when Twilight Princess released on Wii and GameCube either."
No, but they did stop buying Nintendo consoles when Wii U launched, 13m Wii U (told you I'd remember) is 87% less than 100mil Wii consoles. That's a HUGE drop-off from one gen to the next. Sony and it's PS line have shown much greater consistency in home console sales, Sony can get away with more. Though of course their handheld line fell off a cliff from PSP to Vita, which is why Sony probably won't make another handheld. Nintendo is flying in the face of reason and good business sense even making a new home console after a 87% drop-off gen to gen. So if they want to do better this gen, they shouldn't start off by creating envy in their loyal fanbase of Wii U owners and Zelda fans. There are millions of them.
http://zeldadata.com/zeldadata_SalesInContext2014.html
@JaxonH 2nd post. Go walk around your job asking everybody how much they get paid and see how long until you get fired. I'd say a couple of hours. Companies do not like when employees know how much other people make, it upsets things. It may be fair and equitable, but it's upsetting none the less. Have you not noticed the national conversation over the past few decades abut women being paid less then men? According to you it shouldn't matter, women agree to work for those wages. But it does matter, it's a national movement. And it has nothing to do w/ envy, it's about fairness in a capitalistic marketplace.
If Zelda U and Zelda NX release the same date at the same price it is going to upset a lot of people, some of them Wii U owners, and some of them may skip NX b/c of it. Cutting off their nose to spite their face is something people are very good at.
I think a 3-4 month lag keeps almost everybody happy. Zelda U fans get it for Christmas in Oct/Nov, NX owners at Christmas will have a game to look forward to in Feb or March.
B/c another thing a dual release does - and I don't think we've covered this yet - is give the impression to Wii U owners that they've had to wait to play Zelda U until NX launches, which is unfair to them. If Zelda U is ready to launch now, but Ntinod won't release it until the NX launches, and/or Zelda NX is finished, well that isn't fair. You can say it's fair b/c they are still getting the same game, but if they have to wait on a finished game for the NX version to finish, well they aren't going to see it as fair. A 3 month lag helps with that perception as well. Unless you forgot all the uproar when Wii U owners had to wait on finished Rayman for the Xbox One version to finish? If both Zelda games release at the same time that's what people will think, nobody is going to believe they finished at the same time or the NX version finished first.
I hope I'm right about the release dates and lag time so we don't 'have to find out.
@rjejr
I have yet to see one person actually COMPLAIN about the prospect of an NX port, except for you. I think you grossly misjudge people to all be vindictive, to the point they would purposely withdraw themselves from the games they love most (if they bought a Wii U it's cause they love the games- and IF Zelda was the only reason they would have waited to buy it, but I'll get to that later) simply out of jealousy people who buy an NX get to play the game too. Gross misjudgment.
Now, as for release dates. Sure, some people are upset it's not out. But that's a different conversation. Games are almost ALWAYS delayed. And not just by a few months. You wanna talk delay? FFXV has been delayed roughly 7 years. People may have been upset, BUT, once it comes time to release people forget all about that. Cause it's arrived. People may be upset for waiting NOW, but come Novemeber all people will be talking about is how excited they are to play it.
Nobody cares if the game is coming to NX. In fact, most people will be ecstatic. Why? Because the vast majority of people who bought a Wii U will ALSO be buying an NX. So it's in their own interest. Nobody is going to complain NX getting Zelda.
Except perhaps you (just being real here).
And, you can't pin the drop of sales from Wii to Wii U on Zelda Twilight Princess. The Wii was an anomaly and the Wii U's issues have been well documented and discussed to death. But I assure you Zelda wasn't one of those reasons.
Just as I assure you that Zelda releasing on NX will only serve to GAIN sales and positive press.
People aren't going to boycott en masse screaming "screw you Nintendo- you released a great game on your new console- we don't like that. You have to restrict that game to just us- a small handful of Wii U owners, then fail miserably with NX so we can feel superior for having a game they don't".
Trust me man, nobody cares.
@rjejr
And nobody will care if they release the same time. All they're going to care about is the fact they finally get to play Zelda.
Did people complain Twilight Princess released the same time? No? Ok. What makes you thing this will be any different. It's the exact same situation. Nobody cared then. No one will care now. In fact it'll be the opposite. People will be happy, extremely happy, that Nintendo has decided to look to the future rather than let the game of a generation go down in flames with a sinking ship.
@JaxonH
But just so we're clear, of course a super small vocal minority will surely complain about EVERYTHING. I've seen people literally complain they got good VC games after complaining the VC sucked. So ya, there might be 3 or 4 people whining because they can't feel special anymore.
But we're talking substantial, meaningful numbers here. And in that respect, people aren't going to care one way or the other. People play games. Good game releases. People buy and love good game. People happy. Big smile.
Aside from a few obsessive fans who do nothing but stalk Nintendo fan sites complaining about every little thing that doesn't go exactly how they feel it should, most people just don't care. You could literally count the number of people who throw fits on the internet over Nintendo related news in 3 digits or less (meaning hundreds, at most).
@rjejr
Sorry for repeat posts. You shot me two, so I doubled down at four
One last thought to leave you with. You say Sony has more fans, so they can take more loss, but I pose this question: Final Fantast XV as PS4 exclusive... hurt or help? Will this game hurt sales or help sales? I say it won't hurt at all, but on the contrary, will help quite a bit.
Last of Us on PS4: hurt or help? Did it hurt PS4 sales or help? Think it's pretty clear that it helped.
Twilight Princess Wii: hurt or help? Did the game hurt Wii sales or help them? I think that answer is pretty clear too.
Now, let's look at the last Zelda that was NOT dual released- Skyward Sword. Hurt or help? Did Skyward Sword's Wii-only release help the Wii U by pleasing fans who were "promised a Zelda on Wii many years before"? Did people say "good job Nintendo, you kept you word and didn't hold back for your next console- let's go out and buy Wii U in droves as a thank you". OR, did it hurt Wii U. How much would the Wii U have sold had Skyward Sword launched on it as well? I think that answer is pretty clear too.
So, Zelda NX: hurt or help? Exactly. It's the same pattern every time- games sell hardware. Doesn't matter if it was originally announced as a Wii U game. Doesn't matter if a few people get in a tizzy they lost bragging rights. It just doesn't matter. It helps. It always helps.
@JaxonH Going to see if I can reply to all 4 at once, wish me luck.
1. I never meant to imply TP hurt sales. My point was Wii U isn't selling well, and regardless of the reason Ninteod shouldn't risk annoying it's remaining dwindling customer base. You said yourself if Wii U doens't get Zelda that would be bad. Well I think it's much less bad for a dual time boot, but still bad, and Nintneod should avoid it.
interlude - just went back and re-read my original post #34, and I don't even know why we are having this conversation. I never said anything about anybody being upset. My exact statement was -
"I've pretty much decided Zelda has to be dual platfrom at this point"
I'm not sure why you started what you did. I said exactly what you said -
I said - "and they can't promote Zelda NX w/o really aggravating the - albeit measly - 11mil Wii U owners."
You said - "If it was MOVED to the NX? Well ya people would have every right to be upset. Heck even I would be upset, just out of principle."
We said the same thing.
Moving on, though I really don't see the point.
2. I hope you are right about the dual release happiness, guess someday will find out. Some day.
3. "of course a super small vocal minority will surely complain about EVERYTHING."
Well if I had originally written what you think I wrote, this one here.
4. "Final Fantast XV as PS4 exclusive... "
I'm confused, FF games haven't been exclusive for years, FF13 on Xbox 360, FF15 on Xbox One.
As far as Zelda NX. Well here's the thing. I've written comments before about NX and Wii U. Nintneod only sold 13mil Wii U after selling 100mil Wii. So of course Zeld aN Xwill help NX sales, how ocudl it not. But that doesn' tmean i twon't annoy Wii U owners. Even you siad 3 or 4. But her'e swhat I've always said. Let them be upset, Nitnod doens' tneed them. Nintneod can lose all 13mil Wii Uownrs to Xbo xOne and PS4 if they get back the other 87mil Wii owners who didn't buy a Wii U. It doesn't matter how much Nintneod annoys the 13milWii U owners b/c 1. - most of them will be an NX anyway, and 2. there aren't enough to matter. PS3 and Xbox360 sold 80mil each, that's 160mil. PS4 and Xbox One are at say 50mil. That's 110mil potantial NX owners. Who needs Wii U owners, let them eat cake. NX needs Zelda NX more than Nitneod needs 13mil happy Wii U owners. Disgruntled money is just as green as happy money.
But again, my first post never said anything about people unhappy about a dual release, you imagined it.
@rjejr
I must have. So many posts, information flying out of my ears... confusing.
I'll tip my hat to that. A whopper response summarized down to one normal Jaxon post. Well done.
@JaxonH "I must have. So many posts, information flying out of my ears... confusing."
I think you wrote a reply haiku
So many posts
information flying out of my ears...
confusing.
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