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I'll be getting one around Christmas time. I personally want one to enhance the library of OG Switch games I have which I think is a great selling point of the Switch 2. I'm not that fussed Mario Kart World but certainly I would pick up Donkey Kong eventually.

It doesn't look all that different to me, but then, I probably wouldn't be buying the Switch 2 to play games that I already have on the previous machine.

@LastFootnote I was fairly sure you could at the very least with 3DS - it certainly still brings down update data for games.

I'm not bothered by it, I'd sooner these rather than digital codes. At least these keep a second hand market for the games, it may not be ideal for those wanting the whole game on cartridge, I've come to terms with the fact that the optimal experience is rarely what you first purchase with games these days .

@SMJ I worked for Gamestation when Game Stores Group took over, and they were an absolute joke. Killed our Navision software for some archaic system they had and put all the staff on KPI's, gutted our thriving retro business and narrow the £10 gap we had between a new release versus pre-owned. It wasn't until later where I learnt that they'd told the managers to 'change the person, or change the person' for those of us who weren't willing to force warranties and bundles on customers.
I'd say that this must be after your time, but my boss at GS worked for Silica when EB/Game took them over and predicted exactly what was about to happen to us on the day Game took over, that's before we even get into stripping any sales assistant of 40 hours contracts of 50/50 permanent/ flexi hours.
Good times.

Whenever I look at the sales figures for hardware, it always looks like Nintendo have worked hard for those numbers, but Sony seem to have effortlessly sold nearly as many PS5 consoles as they did PS4's in Japan, considering one is almost 12 years old and the other 5, it wouldn't surprise me if the PS5 gets a late wind in Japan - God knows why, but that's just what I think could happen

I wonder when the Switch will begin to tail off due to the Switch II...
PS5 sales aren't rebounding at this point now, are they.

@Anti-Matter it could be one console sold a week and you'd be happy...

Terrible PS5 sales
Terrible Xbox sales

@johnedwin and this is the Japanese charts..

Those PS5 sales are really quite terrible.
Trouble is now, once the PS6 comes along, it’s going to be a hard sell to the Japanese since I can imagine it’ll only be a ‘half gen’ up from the PS5 Pro, which doesn’t look like it’s set the fire in that region….. Unless they copy Nintendo’s homework with a hybrid, which I can see happening.

Actually fairly decent PS5 Pro figures, be interesting to see if it can keep up the momentum...
I wonder how many Blu Ray drives were sold alongside the console itself.

Terrible PS5 figures.

At £49.99 I probably would have got one, but for ninety bones, I'm ooooout.

Damn, the Switch really is the little console that could!

I thought the PS5 sales of over 5 million seemed reasonably impressive since they've hardly put any effort into trying to sell the things in Japan but casting our minds back to the late 1990's and Sega managed to shift about that many if not more Sega Saturns in Japan and that console was seen as a failure plus the video game market wasn't as potentially large as it is today either!

PS5 sales are absolutely rubbish.

@macaron35 I don't think a holiday bundle with most likely no price drop smacks desperation to sell them tbh.

They did it really late into the Wii lifecycle and they bothered to show up with a display on the Wii U so I don't see why they wouldn't this time around surely.

I'm just here for the reactions, I dig that people rated this for what it was, a great all round Direct. Sure there's a few games in there that don't appeal to me, but it's excellent to see so much support this late into the Switch's lifecycle.
I do chuckle at those moaning about it - I really think sometimes, games companies just can't win. There was something for everyone here, even if it was just one of the games on show.

@johnvboy I agree, but Sony are claiming it to be selling really well and tracking near to, if not above PS4 sales for the same sort of time period which I simply can't see how. It doesn't sell in Japan, we know that much so those numbers must be coming from the rest of the world where I guess it's somehow more popular than the PS4 in it's peak in those regions?
Whatever the reasons and figures behind the actual sales, I struggle to find a standout reason to own either a PS5 or XBSX... And that's coming from someone who did actually buy a PS5!

@Anti-Matter You just seem to be here every week saying the PS5 figures aren't that bad yet they're dropping to incredible lows week by week. I get you're a bit blinded by the prospect of buying one, but let's not kid around, second place in this race isn't even out of the starting gate.
Sony are pretty lucky that they've managed to shift 55 million of these things in other regions in the World, to myself included . This is a fairly dire generation of consoles, Nintendo aside.
What 3rd party kids games does the PS5 even have that you can't get on the PS4, are there even any differences for the price you're about to pay out for one?

@Koda1000 I believe that was two weeks worth .

@Anti-Matter at this point, I don't know if you're trolling or you actually think these figures are decent for PlayStation SKUs... Because they aren't ....

@johnedwin and I’d said the PS5 sells well in the rest of the world and not Japan, which is what we’re comparing here.

@Anti-Matter but it isn't selling well in Japan? It should be outpacing the Switch easily by this point in its life, it isn't.

It's doing well everywhere else in the world, not Japan though.

@Anti-Matter 24,000 sales for the week is good? Fairly sure that when the Switch OLED model on it's own is outselling it by well over double, that isn't good.

I wonder if there is a market for streaming sites to do what companies like Limited Run do, make a small timed batch of physical discs for say, £/$10 each for those wanting to properly own the movie / series.
Sounds mental on the outset of things but I had a free Amazon Prime trial and watched a couple of movies on there that I would sit down and watch on DVD or Blu Ray again without having to pay per month, our Internet plays up sometimes too so having DVDs and Blu Ray is quite a handy solution.... The more I type, the more I'm thinking I'm very much in the minority so put this down to thinking a-loud

Can't help but feel this only serves to sabotage their current products , I wouldn't think of buying Xbox hardware if I can play elsewhere. Maybe that's the point...

@Arawn93 Yeah that's very true!

@BaldBelper78 Weird, I'm in the UK too and deffo seen ads running with the Xbox being the focus format, maybe they just don't advertise on TV anymore...

@BaldBelper78 really? The Xbox advertising for Diablo was relentlessly run in cinemas and YouTube almost leading me to think that game was exclusive to that console....

@IronMan30 My apologies

@IronMan30 Not really, there's a new PlayStation sku, so Sony have had a boost - let's have this chat after Christmas before assuming this is a permanent shift of momentum.

@BigE they haven’t even had to drop the price of it yet. With a well timed drop in RRP, I can see it doing the do.

Please don’t be BeatEmUps 🤦

@sanderev I've got to admit, I can't understand why Microsoft continue this quest to fight Sony. The only time they ever got close to a win was the Xbox 360 and really, that was as much to do with Sony dropping the ball in the beginnings of the PS3's life as it did Microsoft having good all round hardware.
It just seems to me that Microsoft have lost more than they've gained from 2002 to today, and this is coming from someone who favours their consoles over Playstation.

I think if Apple can gain ground with their seriousness of making the iPhone 15 a gaming viable platform and build on that then you could very well be right.

They couldn't even land Sega, what makes them think that they'll be able to rope Nintendo?!

Also, 'it's taking a long time for Nintendo to realise their future is not on their own hardware' ... Sounds a lot like what Microsoft's future holds considering they've already put properties they own on Nintendo hardware before, I can't see Nintendo returning that favour.

I can't see this running on the Switch if the PS4 and Xbox One versions were cancelled like they were. I think we could be looking at a launch game for the next iteration of the Switch though, that seems more possible.

@Rambler what’s your issue here?

@Fighting_Game_Loser
There's been like 2 games since 2019, 3 if you count the eShop thing based on the '95 film.

@EaglyPurahfan I'm looking at the comments before yours and struggling to see where you've come to that conclusion ?

Yes, once the physical is cheaper ....

@Deljo the price is high for sure but getting Rockstar's franchises make their way over to Nintendo hardware is something I would have called you crazy for back in the day. I think the Switch draw would possibly be handheld play (once there's an eShop sale ofc)

Not the sort of news that Playstation owners are likely to get excited about (due to technically this being a straight port ) but for Switch owners, this comes as quite a welcome addition. I certainly would consider a physical version later down the line.

I did my bit back in the day.I purchased both the Wii U titles on release day, even though I wasn't that interested in them. I just wanted the Wii U to be a viable platform for 3rd party stuff, I guess looking at COD sales on all machines from Gamecube upwards probably doesn't even equal the sales of one core entry on Xbox or PlayStation so I guess I can understand their reservations.

That being said, having the Wii releases remastered in HD in one collection would be nice...

I'm still probably going to buy this one.... Just when it's under £20.

Oh Sony….
Claiming any sort of victory over Microsoft who are largely sleepwalking in the race and Nintendo who’re nearing the end of their huge run with a 7+ year old console is sort of hollow.
Let’s wait until Nintendo announce their next move before getting too ahead of the game.

@nessisonett totally agree.

@Angelic_Lapras_King and yet in years to come, it’ll probably be double that 🤷‍♂️