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Dark Samus, Phazon and everything from the trilogy doesn't need to be in this. That was all wrapped up nicely.

I'm hoping Nintendo is using the 'Prime' name for the 1st person games going forward and just 'Metroid' for the 2D traditional ones.

North America.
It's Zelda, it doesn't need flash or an overly busy box art. Simplicity can say alot more.
The European one is alright, but still better than the Japanese one. Its just too busy and tries too hard.

@mlj11 Lets say Nintendo allowed people to use Mario and Peach in a fan made game that introduced different mechanics. Nothing bad, but lets say in the style of a Metroidvania, but same light, cartoony fun we expect from Mario. No one is making money off it, its not being used to advertise anything else, it's just there for people to play. All is good.
Now, lets have someone else follow that up and make a full-on porn game with Mario and Peach. Or one where Mario goes full Mortal Kombat or Doom-like violence. Non profit, no advertising, exact same as the aforementioned one. How does Nintendo shut down the porn or violent games while letting the Metroidvania one exist? They can't, or at least have a much harder time because they have allowed it before. The precedent was set that they allow their IP to be used unlicensed, so it's a much harder fight should the ones using it fight back.
They could try and govern it on a per-use basis, but now we're talking more costs than what they are doing currently.
So instead, they have set the precedent that they do not allow usage. At all. Its far easier for them to do it this way. They'll never stop it, they'll never catch it all, but they are protecting themselves and their IP by maintaining the precedent that they do not allow their IP to be used unlicensed.

Regardless, this isn't even a debate. Nintendo owns their IP and will do what they want with them.

@Samalik I know you're arguing against what I said, but actually just make the point. Just because they're not a small Indie means they should be giving up their rights to protect their IP as they see fit?
How exactly do they govern this? For every innocent fan art or game of Peach, there's likely 10x more of her in porno situations. They can't allow one and not the other, by your argument. People want fan art of their favourite characters...that extends well into the realm of sex & violence. Good luck taking that down when you have a precedent of allowing your characters to be used in any number of other ways.
People always assume its just about others making money off the IP, when there's other factors . Nintendo doesn't want Mario gun toting or in games of Mortal Kombat levels of violence or the roster of Smash Bros suddenly in an orgy arena instead of fighting. It's all about the precedent.

Edit - to be clear, I am not even on the Nintendo side of this, exactly. I play fan games, use fan art, play a lot of modded Nintendo games and whatnot. Hell, the best version of Zelda II is a fan mod. But, I can just see why Nintendo does the things it does and frankly, its ridiculous anyone thinks Nintendo should just allow people to do whatever they want with their IP.

It's funny to watch people argue over this as it's entirely dependant on who it is; in this case it's Nintendo.

Change Nintendo to a small indie studio trying to launch an IP and someone else starts using it. In this case most everyone would be on the side of the small Indie trying to keep and protect their IP. But because it's Nintendo, its wrong.

@mlj11 Protect goes beyond financial and property loss. If Nintendo allows the sweet and innocent, they also have to allow the degrading, violent, horrific and pornographic, because a precedent was set in allowing others and precedent is everything. They're not going to govern each piece, they're going to blanket cover themselves and their IP against all of it. They don't want their characters portrayed in any way except how they want.

Nostalgia for Dragon Warrior will always win me over!

First glance at the title and I thought how annoying that would be. No surprise, its a bit misleading, because reading further into it, it sounds more like Majora's Mask, which I'd be into. Except that weird angular art style is really hard for me to look at, so likely not.

Sounds like they're going full backward compatibility, and they're not worried about software sales because of it. Go ahead and buy Switch games now, they'll still work on the new one.

Its a canned response. Nothing more, nothing less.

Physical sales are still enough to warrant doing them, so they will. Until they aren't profitable enough to warrant doing them.

Bold claim since I'm already not happy about it
I'm likely not going to see this, just because I don't want to give Link a voice and personality.

And I do find it off-putting how much he's stressing he's a fan.

Yeah, I know I'm being awfully negative about a movie not even made yet, but I just don't think Zelda is something that's going to translate to the big screen very well at all.

@MK73DS I'm glad someone pointed this stuff out. Its too bad most will just jump on the Nintendo hate bandwagon instead of trying to see the whole picture.

Switch has already beaten PS2 as best selling game console.
PS2 was one of the best selling DVD players. Its well known it was the cheapest and best DVD player you could get at the time.

There was a poll in Japan and of those polled 60% used their PS2 primarily as a DVD player. Not that it wasn't a great console, but it's legacy is blown up due to this. I'd love to see a game console be top selling for the merit of being a game machine.

I honestly don't even know who some of these characters even are...
Iconic to me would be that people outside gaming would even recognize them.

Neither of these are great, but Japan wins just by having all 4 Turtles at least. The art still isn't great and why blur out the rest of the line up? I understand they're in the background....but it's supposed to be enticing, not photo accurate effects on a drawn picture of mutant turtles.

I love how paying customers have become beta-testers.

Some of these aren't a surprise at all.
Prime 4....development restarted during the Switch lifetime, no one should have realistically thought we were gonna see this anytime soon.
XBX....the devs stated this would be too time consuming and too much work to port over and that they'd rather work on new stuff. Somehow its surprising that they did what they said?
Prime 3.....that's a lot of work redoing those controls. Can be done, but not expecting it, since I feel like we're lucky we got Skyward Sword redone and that's in a much better selling franchise.

And so on....factor realism into this and you can shrink the list substantially.

No....I'm not.
I can't justify paying $70 CDN for a GBA game when I can get several other titles on sale for the same amount of money.
Sorry Nintendo, but these days, I gotta make the dollar go further.

People have been predicting Switch 2 since the Switch first came out.
Its years of rumours, "leaks" and whatnot that leads so many people to disappointment when the actual release and product aren't what these rumours have built them up to be over years.

Just rumours, people. Read and treat them as interesting, sure, but remember not one bit of it is real until Nintendo says it is.

Totally agree with this.
All CGI trailers with no gameplay have the opposite of the intended effect on me.
Why aren't they showing actual gameplay? It's either way too early and the game is years away or they aren't confident enough in it to show the actual thing they want to sell me. Either way, hype killed.

Y'all are gonna be lucky to have much physical media at all, let alone this kind of thing.
Besides, its not even something you see, so what's the point? The NES (left open or toploader), SNES, n64, Game Boy line....you saw those cartridges when they were in the system and they were a lot bigger, so the snazzy colours made sense. Seems pointless for a cart that is tiny and you never see except when swapping.

They're cool and all, but no way in hell at that price. Not sure how they justify that for a different paint job,

I'd never seen that European one before and it just got my vote. Combines the gray classic I know with art that reflects how Samus looks in this game.
The "Classic Series" one is nice and all, but thats Metroid II artwork and Samus didn't even have that suit in the original game (a point driven home by Zero Mission)

Onboard storage, I don't really care how much there is. It's other options that I want. Like an empty m.2 slot in conjunction with an SD card slot. Let me pick out the storage I need and want.

Its amazing how a small shift in context changes everything.
Have a collection game memorabilia? Chances are it gets viewed as childish and what a waste of money.
Have a collection of sports memorabilia? Fantastic, what a diehard fan, wow thats awesome!

This is what I run into all the time and its so stupid.

I really didn't enjoy the Wii. I get why it was a phenomenon, but it was just a gimmick and not a good control scheme. I skipped so many games during this era because I loathed the forced gimmick controls. I'm very glad the Switch moved away from it.

Nintendo, among many other devs, need to take a page from older tutorials like MMX and the OG Super Mario for their modern games.
They don't need to be a slog, take over the pacing or control from the player to force-feed an information dump. Games like MMX did it perfectly. Its a tutorial stage that doesn't feel at all like a tutorial stage and just part of the game. Doesn't stop everything to tell you buttons or whatever else (unfortunately, also usually told to you by some unnecessary and/or annoying NPC. HEY! LISTEN!). Instead puts you in a situation where you need to actually play the game (omg!) to learn it.

Wow, some people are very opposed to open world Zelda.
Ironic how they claim they want traditional Zelda instead, but TotK is essentially the OG Zelda in 3D modern form.
People really tend to forget that Zelda started as open world.

The only surprising thing here is how many people still get so upset over this, at this point. It's been years and nothing has changed. Except we now have companies like Limited Run preying on the situation with artificially scarce runs and inflated prices (and humorously people praise them for it).
Decided early in the Switch lifespan that this wasn't the hill I was gonna die on and definitely not worth it.
I'll just buy the game, slam it on an SD (behold, its now physical!) and just enjoy it, because that's the point of why I game....to enjoy the game, not bask in the glory of the media it's on.

The being said....putting a physical release out for a digital only game is very stupid and a waste of materials in this age when we're supposed to be cutting back on plastics and whatnot. Just put it in the eShop.

This game is actually pretty decent and it's reputation is worse than the game actually is. It would take very little to modernize it and rid the stigma.
Adjust the difficulty spike at Death Mountain, fix the translation and what the NPCs say to make sense and fix the respawn to the start to the start of dungeons/caves/last town visited.

Wow, you can easily look at these comments and pick out the people who have never even looked at Gamepass and just blindly rejecting the notion.

I voted "I guess" because I don't really care. There's like 12 devices in my house that can stream, so I don't really care if I have another one that can or not.

This wouldn't be a thing if they didn't make money off it. Companies continue to do this stuff because people buy it....and there will always be people who will.

Sonic 3 & Knuckles was always meant to be one game. It's stupid to list them separately, IMO.
The combined, true and intended form of the game is far superior than either separately.

What would have been truly great is if this one sale was the one to push the Wii U over some sort of milestone lol

It's been happening for many years, but never fails to amaze me how many people will buy a new console that is exactly the same, just in a different color scheme.
Do the people who do this keep the original/other colors and just use the newest or keep a collection of them?

Zelda has never been about consistent lore. The series changes what it needs to, when it needs to. As they've stated themselves, it's in the title - "Legend". They really don't care about maintaining a canon lore in this series and never has.
And IMO, the worst thing Nintendo can do is start adhering to a firm lore and timeline as it ties their hands.

I would, if consoles would catch up to how its been on PC.
Digital games tied to my account, not the system, that work on future systems.

Neither are great.....
The NA does look like an album cover, but I appreciate its simplicity over the crowded Japanese one. Japanese box art seems to want to cram everything they can onto it and I find them too busy a lot of the time.

This should surprise noone.
Props to them for trying to get this on Switch, but as expected the sacrifices made are just too much.
I find the Switch visuals hard to look at sometimes because it seems like it's out of focus.
Skipping this entirely on Switch. I would have rather a Klassic Kollection of the arcade and SNES trilogy for Switch.

They've effectively killed themselves. By removing the retroactive and saying this only applies going forward.....anyone with any common sense is going to look into other options going forward. They pulled this once, why risk more crap with them in the future.

This was a pretty crappy thing to do.
I feel like this version is going to be a dumpster fire, regardless. MK11 was substantially downgraded for Switch, I can only imagine how much this one will be.
Good they're actually trying to put it on Switch, unlike many devs, but I feel like we're long past getting decent ports of new games on Switch.

I went with He-Man. I'd love a good He-Man game, based on the 80s version. DLC is built right in with She-Ra. And skins from the movie, and later incarnations of the cartoon.
Thundercats would be my second choice.

Ghostbusters and Transformers are obvious good choices, but they have had their good treatment, albeit in 3D form. Batman and X-Men have had their share of decent games too.
The Simpsons...meh. They don't have great games (except that arcade one was fun), but I'm not too keen to have one. The Simpsons don't scream action game to me.

Its been so long since the last F-Zero that I don't even want a new one now. I'd be happy with a compilation, all original except GX being graphically remastered into HD.

@Vyacheslav333 Not me so much as I'm usually done with a game after I finish the solo campaign and rarely play extra modes.
I only wish the missing modes were reflected in the original purchase price. I'd happily buy games with no extra modes or no online functions for cheaper since I rarely use them anyway.
It's a space saver too, I hate games that tie up obscene amounts of storage for modes I don't use.

I have no issue with this practice, I just wish it was more accurately reflected in the pricing.

No doubt Miyamoto is a genius and has made very notable contributions to Nintendo and the industry as a whole, but I do find him to be very closed minded about some things and very set in his ways. If it's not exactly as he envisioned it, doesn't have some gimmick or isn't designed for absolute mass appeal, he doesn't like it.

MK1 is my only definite one here, and I'm not getting it on Switch, especially after having MK11 on Switch and then later getting it on PC. Never touched the Switch version again.

While I get where this article is coming from, this isn't the 90's anymore. Sonic and Marios rivalry is long since over and Mario won. Mario has been far more consistently good than Sonic could even dream of. Which is a shame, because Sonic was really good and fun to play, but sadly peaked with Sonic 3&K (IMO). Had they maintained that caliber of games going forward, this might be a thing now, but sadly it isn't.
Where Mario maintained, we know the chances of Wonder being a good game are pretty high. Sonics inconsistent games over the last 2+ decades makes this new one a crapshoot.

The only people this will affect in any meaningful way is the people who legitimately buy games already.

This stuff never stops piracy. If anything, it just gives them a challenge to beat, which they will. Remember when Sony launched Blu-ray with claims of it being unpiratable? It was like 3 days before it was broken. If it even took that long. Denuvo has been cracked and broken on at least half the games that had it on PC.
So all this will do is piss off legit buyers. But they're right about the launch window. This won't stop piracy, just delay it a bit. And the people who download pirated versions will just wait for that. So it's really accomplishing nothing.

The comment section reads as though he died. He's just moving on, and considering he's taken another 'new' position at Nintendo involving the character, I would assume it was amicable.
Yes, it's sad he's no longer the voice of Mario after almost 30 years, but maybe he just wanted to do something else. From everything I've seen of him, he is a very good person, seems to love the fans and interactions. I'm thinking (hoping), that tthis is what he wanted to do - continue being out there and interacting with fans. For all we know, he's just gotten his dream job. If that's the case, I wish him all the best and many thanks for being that iconic voice.

I don't envy the new person trying to fill those shoes, though.

I don't think this has ever happened to me with a game, but it did happen with Zelda ALttP. I got it way back when it released on the SNES (I was 11) and I played it through multiple times. One playthrough, I somehow triggered the Chris Houlihan room. I didn't know what it was, didn't know how I got there and could never get back there again. No one I knew had ever heard of this room and by the time the internet became a real thing, I had kinda forgotten about it and assumed my younger imagination made it up. But, more than a decade later, I saw it on a video game site I was browsing and it flooded back that I had found this room when I was a kid. It was cool to find that out that it was actually real.