Bolt_Strike

So it's DKC's 30th anniversary? What a momentous occasion! It'd be nice if Nintendo had something to celebrate. You know, like a new game?

Just wait until Sonic x Shadow Generations releases, short of major technical issues with the re-release, that game should rocket into the Top 5 (maybe even Top 3).

Maybe you should take the same advice NL.

@Nintendo_Thumb Worth noting this is a remaster of a game from 2011 and plays similarly to Unleashed, Colors, and Forces (although it's most similar to the 360/PS3 version of Unleashed). Set your expectations accordingly.

As far as the "pick-a-lane mechanic", if you mean the Quick Step, where you could press a button and instantly sidestep to another "lane", yes that is in this game.

@Grumblevolcano The Biolizard battle in this one seems to be completely different from the 3DS version's battle. I don't think they're just plopping 3DS content in here, I think Shadow's content is built from the ground up.

My guess is that they're going to structure it similarly to the main story, one level from a past game and a few bosses, but they'll only pull from games that Shadow appeared in. So probably 1 stage from the Dark story in SA2, 1 stage from Heroes, 1 stage from ShTH, and 1 stage from 06.

Based on the trailer it seems we can already make out some of their choices. The trailer seems to show Final Chase from SA2 and Westopolis from ShTH, as well as boss battles with the Biolizard and Black Doom. So we might be able to rule out the possibility of Radical Highway returning from the 3DS already.

I'm curious what they might pull from Heroes and 06 though. Perhaps Egg Fleet, White Acropolis, and the 2nd battle against Mephiles (the one that takes place in Dusty Desert at the end of Shadow's story in 06)? That would be thematically appropriate.

@HammerGalladeBro I think the Shadow sections are getting more promotion because it's new content whereas anyone that's played the original Generations more or less knows what they're getting in the Sonic campaign. I don't think the Shadow campaign is going to be super long, they'd probably only feature games that Shadow had a role in which would probably just limit them to SA2, Heroes, ShTH, and 06.

Also it just occurred to me this is the first time a "real" boost game is playable on a Nintendo console. And might I say for anyone that missed the 360/PS3 versions of Unleashed and Generations, you are in for a treat. These two are by far the best boost games. Some of the others like Colors and Forces were a bit gimped and the levels weren't designed well to take advantage of it, but this game you can literally boost to your heart's content (provided you have the skill to maintain it) and blast through the level incomprehensibly fast. You want to know why some Sonic fans love the boost games? You'll understand a lot more by playing this game, the ones you've probably played aren't really the ones boost fans will point to as being great.

Heavily rumored, but now they're adding Shadow content from SA2 and Shadow? Hell. Goddamn. Yes.

Um... what about the main series Pokemon games? FRLG and Emerald would be amazing additions to NSO.

@link3710 It's far closer to 94 than the Minis. There's a few levels where you have to guide minis to the goal, but they just attempt to follow Mario instead of walking around automatically like Lemmings.

@HeadPirate I'm not familiar with most of those, but Fairy Tail, The Seven Deadly Sins, and The Rising of the Shield Hero are definitely not magic SCHOOL series. They're medieval fantasies, but they're all slightly different in execution. Fairy Tail is a magic guild. Shield Hero is an isekai. Seven Deadly Sins is pretty much a typical adventure series. There's some similarities yes, but you most definitely cannot throw them all in the bucket of "magic school" like Harry Potter. Magic is the only common thread in all 4 of those and that's about as vague a connection as they come.

@JokerCK They pretty much admitted the reason. "but with its aesthetic parallels to Pokémon, it's been the main talking point for many of us as we await the first Nintendo Direct of the year and the inevitable Pokémon Presents showcase at the end of February."

It's because there's not much we know about for Nintendo games coming this year. We've pretty much got nothing until we see a Direct, Pokemon Present, or Switch 2 announcement of some kind.

>Developer acquisition
>Good publisher

Pick one.

@cmbaum I was actually disappointed with Nyakuza Metro. They marketed it like it was a GTA clone with that cat costume, but it was mainly just more platforming. Also, the ending was very anticlimactic, you don't really fight The Empress in a true boss battle, you just escape on an elevator and she can't fight you because of the policemen there. It's... fine, but I wouldn't put it in the category of "best DLC" for sure.

The Booster Course Pack doesn't belong on this list, sorry. It's quantity over quality, it adds a bunch of cheap mobile ports that don't match the game's artstyle or course design.

Well, we knew this was coming eventually. The introduction of livestream events like Nintendo Directs made E3 obsolete. Still though, it kind of hurts regardless since E3 had some great announcements. F.

Too bad they can't fix the biggest issue with this game being that it's waaaay too similar to 2.

Well technically they could, but they seem to be allergic to making this game not feel like a rehash.

@Nool Oh whoop de freaking doo. Another ancient retro console that could run on a freaking calculator. For the same price point Microsoft and Sony are giving you EVERY console, not just consoles from the 20th century. So where are the GC, DS, Wii, 3DS, and Wii U Nintendo would need to make them competitive with that offer?

Nothing here that I care about.

@Lizuka Why? I don't really see how backups are an issue. The only potential issue I see is with transfers, but if they made it work between 3DS VC and Bank I think they could do so between NSO and Home.

@vio What's really shameful is that they're charging $50 for just N64 and GBA games. At that price point we should be getting GC and even Wii games too. Not "whining" to say that their retro offerings are woefully barren, doubly so when compared to what Microsoft and Sony offer for their subscription plans.

@dustinprewitt On the N64 or in general? Because there's a gaping hole on the GB's lineup in the form of the main series Pokemon games (we don't even have Red and Blue FFS, just spinoffs, no main series games whatsoever).

I suspect Smash will get the MK8D treatment next gen. No main game on Switch 2, just Ultimate Deluxe with DLC included and even MORE Fighters Passes and that's all we get for the entire generation. I think they might need an entire generation to figure out what's next for Smash and we won't see Smash 6 until Switch 3/whatever's after Switch 2, it does seem like in situations where they're struggling to figure out what's next for an IP, they tend to skip a gen.

@Sherlock- That would be great if we actually freaking saw said game. We haven't had a Yooka-Laylee game since 2019 and that was a 2.5D side entry (not to say it wasn't great but it's not a direct sequel, it's something different), the first game was in 2017 and 6 years later no sequel. One spiritual successor 20 years later and nothing else doesn't exactly fill the void that well.

@norwichred False equivalency. Nintendo has so many IPs that it just can't give them all attention and most of the ones they left behind just haven't sold that well. Banjo-Kazooie meanwhile, sold 3.6 million on the N64 and has the potential to reach 5-10 million on a far more popular console. The reason that IP isn't getting made is much different and far more insidious, because Microsoft bought up companies like Rare to pad out their library (because they can't seem to make their own IPs so they just buy them), but Microsoft is a culture clash so they ended up driving away Rare's talent so they have no one left to make the IP. So basically the IP is rotting away because Microsoft wanted to buy up all of the square pegs to fit in their round holes.

Translation: "We don't actually want to bring it back because it doesn't mesh with our brand and we gutted the team that made it, so we'll just say we're looking for the right opportunity as an excuse forever."

Honestly, the ENTIRETY of ALttP/OoT style Zelda games are Metroidvanias, just an action/adventure flavor of Metroidvania. You explore the maps finding items that help you explore even more of the map, the dungeon items open up more of the overworld in the same way that Samus' abilities might.

Anyway, the Water Temple was challenging, but a good type of challenging. It was a puzzle that you really need to use your head to figure out. And yeah, there's some QoL issues fixed in the 3DS remake that make it even better (and people wonder why some of us want dual screens back for the Switch 2).

@WaffleRaptor01 I don't think they really need to do much. Mainly just adding extra events to the story (for example, the end of the Child Arc/beginning of the Adult Arc feels really rushed). I'm not expecting Pulitzer Prize material from Nintendo. Technically that might fall more under content than story (what I really want is more dungeons/questlines at that point in the game), but it does require storyline changes.

It's passable as is, but it really could stand out more with a remake. The map could stand to be bigger and the story could use much more fleshing out. I would very much like to see a FFVII-esque reimagining for it, otherwise just stick with porting the original and 3DS remakes, they'll do if they don't want to get ambitious.

That's a very good question, what IS going on at Playtonic? It's been 6 years since Yooka-Laylee and 4 since Impossible Lair, feels like their next game should be ready to show soon.

@jco83 No. Everything made for the BCP is in Tour, and is relatively similar. Every single track.

@nintendo90 The whole DLC is just recycled from Tour. Even the retro tracks are mainly just touched up versions of their Tour remakes. The whole Booster Course pack was just a cheap Tour port disguised as a new expansion.

@Maxz There's a sucker born every minute I guess. And you wonder where casual hatred comes from.

@Mgalens And this is why I want the detchable screen patent to be a real product. Because that WOULD expand your options for play by bringing dual screens back into the mix and potentially having new ways to play multiplayer. I definitely feel like the Switch is missing something by omitting the dual screens from the 3DS and Wii U.

Good riddance. They've really milked this game for all it's worth, time for a legitimate Mario Kart 9 (or 10. whatever, just an actual new console Mario Kart).

Well I hope the detachable screens rumor is accurate. Detachable screens would be such a great way to bring dual screen gaming back and that's my dream scenario for the Switch 2. I would definitely want such a product to come to market. Or at least some day if not with the Switch 2.

Why should I want to? They've never made the games I want them to and just keep buying up and destroying IPs that I do like, and I NEVER want to be part of that community.

None of them. I wish they had put more time and effort into making new content than bringing back old content again.

@PoeTheLizard So has Mario Kart but they still put SMK, MK64, and MKSC on NSO. Sales of the new games is clearly not the issue.

@PoeTheLizard They did RBY on VC, I don't see why they can't do it again on NSO.

Pokemon Red and Blue when?

@Sisilly_G They can only create so many Pokemon, and they had the rest of the game to flesh out. They couldn't create too many Paradox Mons, 7 per version is pretty reasonable. IDK why you expected much more.

@Lizuka The music played a part in Area Zero's atmosphere for sure, but there was more to it than that. The story helped make it feel unsettling and unnatural too (not quite scary to the degree of Lavender and Old Chateau, but you definitely felt like there was something off about it). It being a forbidden location locked off until the end of the story, the teaser of having to fight an escaped Donphan Paradox that escaped Area Zero as one of the Titan Pokemon, and the gradual descent as you encounter the Paradox Pokemon, learn what they are, and learned what happened in this place, really makes the area feel off in a good way.

Oh please let this be real! I have been banging on the table for a Switch successor like this. I would love if this is what the Switch 2 ends up being.

@Folkloner I mean in terms of the Switch vs. its successor. The OLED is a revision, not a successor.

Wringing one last drop out of the OG Switch and MK8D are we?

Besides the obvious like fixing drift, the biggest thing it needs is the dual screen clamshell design back. The Switch doesn't work very well as a handheld because it's too big to fit in your pocket, they need a way to fold it so it takes up less space. Also the closer they can get to the design of the DS, 3DS, and Wii U, the better they can emulate those games.

@gcunit Regardless of what they have or haven't promised us, if that's all they'd use it for I'd be thinking that's a waste of an account system (and probably many others would too). Automated emails saying "Hey, we have a new system out!" probably isn't going to move the needle much in terms of getting the ball rolling, because of social media those kinds of announcements travel fast and far. What they're actually offering is more likely to affect how smooth the transition is to next gen. What the console does. What kinds of features it has. What kinds of games it plays. At the end of the day, that's what's going to get people coming out of the woodwork to buy the next gen device. And if they carry over the Switch's account framework but it's not going to carry over any of its features... that's a big yikes that's going to put people off to investing in a new console or a Nintendo account. Why are they going to bother paying for a similar console to the Switch that can't play Switch games? Why would they buy digital games if they're just going to be dead after ~7 years when the next gen console comes out? Why would they pay for NSO if they're just going to give us the same meager collections of systems we've seen recycled multiple times like NES, SNES, and N64? It becomes a tougher ask and makes the "unified account system" look not so unified and fairly pointless. You're kind of giving the game away if you're not carrying something over from past systems.

So does that mean NSO is carrying over and we're not starting over with NES ports for the zillionth time? Because we desperately need old-but-not-that-old systems like the GC, DS, and Wii to be available.

Not the spinoff I'd like to see continued, it's way too shallow. We need more spinoffs like Mystery Dungeon, Ranger, Snap, and Pokepark (more 2 than 1).

I'm sure he does... by making Nintendo part of Xbox Nation.